Well William, I purchased the Salomon snow boots. Went hiking 2 days. The first day in and out of streams from runoff 4 miles. Boots were dry with the exception of a small leak in the left boot. Probably a defect. The second day I hiked through snow patches on a mountain and got caught in a hail storm the last mile. Unfortunately both boots failed miserably. Entire cloth on the forefoot was wet. When I took out the foot pads, they were wet to the arch. On the plus side, they had very good traction. I will be writing to Salomon.
Can u tell if they are good only for winter in the bug cities. I want to know which boot should i choose for a normal winter [not going hiking or so , and just for max -10 Celsius degrees] which ones are the WARMEST? I WANT TO STAY HOURS OURSIDE.
I realize this is an older video. However, the tests were very well done. I would in all honesty soak my boots in water to verify their waterproofness if that was important to me regardless of the boot model. The last thing one would want to experience when out in the woods are cold, wet feet. I have some Columbia Bugaboot XTM's. The Bugaboot XTM's are the Bugaboots you reviewed with a higher cut and a lower temperature rating. I have had them for two years in Wisconsin winters. They are great aside from a little heat loss through the sole of the boot. I remedied that with a cheap Yaktrax $10 insole I put over the regular insole. Anyway, I think the Columbia boots were at a slight disadvantage during the heat loss test. They are designed to radiate warmth from the foot back to the foot. They use slightly thinner insulation as a result of their Omni-heat. I do not think the plastic bags would radiate much heat back from the sides of the boot. That is just my opinion. They were still close in results to some of the other boots as far as temperature goes even without their radiant technology utilized. I also realize it would be crazy time consuming, but one would almost have to wear all the boots to feel how warm they truly feel. Still a cool test though.
Good choices! I think Sorel updated this boot recently. I tried on the Sorel Caribou XT and the fit was spot on! The boot itself was also very lightweight. It wasn't built quite as strong as the one you have here (tank) but very similar. My only complaint was similar to your complaint. The tungue gusset is thin with nearly no insulation in the one spot. Although the laces tighten right up and pretty much seal that area. I personally think they could have done better with the tongue. Should have been slightly more insulated or padded to prevent heat loss. Other than that the new sorel caribou is a great boot! Love the removable insert! Great review!
I had the kamik, I was very impressed great grip on ice and when step on wet puddles immediately will feel secure some how it will gain more traction, lasted long and wore them 12-14hrs a day 7 days a week.
I don't know about you guys but I never want a boot that is gigantic like the Sorel in this review. If that means I need to avoid hiking for hours in the deep snow, fine.I'll find something fun to do in my not so gigantic boots. Yay.
To preform a terminal test you have to have a heat source in the boot. The sock was the same temp of the boot. Try putting a hand warmer in the sock roll the top of the sock up then place it in the boot with a towel stuffed in the top to keep cold out of the opening the use the flare camera at 30min 45min and 1hr.
1. Different boots for different purposes. The sorrels and kamiks are supposed to be snow boots in very cold weather... They didn't have water primarily in mind. As far as my experience with winter here in Canada and cutting wood and snowplowing with Atv for 10 to 12 hours at a time it is the wind chill and standing still with no movement that will really put a boot to the test. As far as slippery....? You can't tell from feeling it... Traction doesn't translate that way... Also I don't care how well a boot is made... Put some light fresh snow on ice and every boot will slip.
i am looking at buying winter boots. i will also be working outside in winter on farm and have issues with cold feet. which boots do you use and which would you recommend Michael G? wind chill and standing still in mind
@@michaeloosthuizen7918 Hi, for cutting wood in winter, early spring and late fall I use the Chippewa super logger boots American made. They are insulated and very durable full leather with vibrant soles, steel toe and good year welt. I wear them when im basically moving around and not standing still in deer stand or plowing snow with 4 wheeler. When out for a walk in winter or plowing snow I bought myself a pair of Kamik, Canada boots rated for -70 Celsius I think... Never had issue with cold feet plowing snow for hours and hours in -25 to -30 degree Celsius.. good traction and removable liners... I can't seem to see the actual name on them but I will get back to you... I have to go help someone with wood ATM.
Good review but you really didn't cover comfort. You need to wear them to test that. Is the lacing system comfortable? Do you get a blister on your heel? Lateral movement ok? Walking on ice? And to me, sometimes the flex of the material when you're walking can cause pain during long hikes. I also wear aluminum snow shoes and would want to know if they bind.
I wish, I could take all boots outside an really test them, but I was not allowed to that. Also, to really test each pair well I would need to wear it for at least a week every day. This is unfortunately impossible for me, and it would be hard to incorporate in a short video. I already selected one pair and will record real world test. It should be posted soon. Stay tuned. Take care!
Just bought me a pair of Bugaboot 3 for a mountaineering trip. They look pretty solid hopefully they hold well. I have a pair of Columbia Peak Freaks and Newton ridge That wore to the ground. Columbia makes some solid Boots
3:06 excellent call. I have bugaboot and it cracked exactly there 2 days go. I look for other boots recommendation and bump in yours video. Edit side rubber cracked at multiple places.
The boots with the fabric are a lot more waterproof than I expected. For the thermal test I would have used small water balloons in a very light sock or even a stocking. I think the thermal mass would have shown the differences better. Otherwise it's s useful video.
I very much like your scientific approach. However, please consider the following: 1) "Waterproofness" often goes both ways. The more waterproof your boot is the more problem you will have with sweat/condensation from inside. This is particularly important for boots used during multi day tent trekking with limited drying possibilities. After many years use I have now abandoned Nokian Naali for this specific reason. 2) The heat test is good idea. However, sock is cold when it goes in and cold when it comes out. It would have been better to put a hard boiled egg direct from pan in each boot. Block opening with isolating sock or plastic. Then make heat test first on boot, to see if heat is leaking out. After some hours take temperature on egg to verify heat loss in egg. 3) As already mentioned always use wool (socks). Wool is providing good insulation and warmth even when wet. Cotton absorb all moist, provide bad insulation when wet and cool everything in its proximity when the moist vaporize. That said, contrary to what might be expected a cotton smock works surprisingly well as protective exterior layer winter time. This is due to that it sucks the moist from your inner layers so that your body stay dry, and vaporize it better than most high tech/gore-tex material. Finally it's great windbreaker if woven correctly. Just some ideas.
tight and thin wool socks, thicker generic cotton boot socks arent a bad combo. The key to double socking is a thin tight base layer and a little room under the thicker outer layer. Just like the rest of the body. Thin wool dress socks work very well for the wicking layer and are often way cheaper for the buget minded folk. My wet foot solution (wet snow area here) to the problem of breathability vs waterproof was to go with mukluk sorel style and a second liner. I swap liners while the other dries. Takes all day to fill it with sweat and no water gets in. Budget option for that is buy felt liners, and bring them to go try on rubber muck boots at a farm store.
Most excellent review !! Very well thought out manner in which to do the testing !! A bunch of folks could learn greatly from this review and the process you choose !! Funny I am looking for some new boots . Have used the Solomon Tundra's the last few yrs , great WP and VERY warm boots but stiff !
I no longer buy brand name boots. They all claimed the boots were water-proof. None were. Finally I took a chance and bought a pair of no-name boots, made in China. They cost only $70 Canadian. They are water-proof, warm, good-grip, sturdy breathable, and light-weight. Check all the boxes.
The Medicine Wheel, sometimes known as the Sacred Hoop, has been used by generations of various Native American tribes for health and healing. It embodies the Four Directions, as well as Father Sky, Mother Earth, and Spirit Tree-all of which symbolize dimensions of health and the cycles of life.
Hello everybody, If you are looking for new snow boots for cold winters this video will help you to possibly make your final decision. Let me know how you like the thermal camera data. Take care!
You won’t like those big handles when they get caught on a branch, why would you wear big gloves to put boots on? Put the boots on first, then the gloves
Thanks for the review ! And... a guy with such an accent, and looks, then you know he knows what he is talking about ! He sounds like he would survive a year in Siberia without shelter... !
C for effort. I see what you tried to achieve there, but unfortunatelly, you are missing out on lots of variables. How about body heat, instead of just plastic shoved in a cotton sock? How about moisture building up inside the shoe from the sweat, the amount of which is determined by that same body heat, which in its turn is determined by the level of activity, the metabolism, the type and number of socks worn (sorry, but cotton socks are a bad choice on cold winter days, especially if they involve some activity), and so on? The first three pairs; the fourth one; and then fifth together with the sixth belong to three different classes, and are built for different purposes, therefor they can't be compared in a fair way. And most of all, you are missing the main thing of any test and review: WEAR THEM OUTSIDE! Have you ordered the boots for this video, and then returned them, so that's why you couldn't actually use them? A bit lame, don't you think? I'm done here.
The metabolism? Are you serious? These were kinda simple boots review and tests. My metabolism has nothing to do with water entering my boots when I step into water or snow. They either work or not. Also, why I would order that many pairs of boots without an option to return them? It makes no sense. Did you expect me to wear one new pair every week during a winter?
sorel by kaufman was excellent, sorel by china is garbage in comparison. shame you didn't try baffin, they imho are the top tier boot maker. the snow monster is unbeatable.
What answer? Like which boots you should buy? It is up to you. You watched the video and the tests. Also, if you were looking for my "answer" watch my following video. Take care!
Thank you. All the other videos are Zappos employees who have never been outside or tested the boot they are advertising..
I'd expect all or most to be waterproof on arrival. After 6 months of use is another story though. I'd like to see how they hold up over time.
Man, that was a super thorough review. Lots of work in setting up and running those tests. Definitely worth a sub. 👍
Well William, I purchased the Salomon snow boots. Went hiking 2 days. The first day in and out of streams from runoff 4 miles. Boots were dry with the exception of a small leak in the left boot. Probably a defect. The second day I hiked through snow patches on a mountain and got caught in a hail storm the last mile. Unfortunately both boots failed miserably. Entire cloth on the forefoot was wet. When I took out the foot pads, they were wet to the arch. On the plus side, they had very good traction. I will be writing to Salomon.
Can u tell if they are good only for winter in the bug cities. I want to know which boot should i choose for a normal winter [not going hiking or so , and just for max -10 Celsius degrees] which ones are the WARMEST? I WANT TO STAY HOURS OURSIDE.
I realize this is an older video. However, the tests were very well done. I would in all honesty soak my boots in water to verify their waterproofness if that was important to me regardless of the boot model. The last thing one would want to experience when out in the woods are cold, wet feet.
I have some Columbia Bugaboot XTM's. The Bugaboot XTM's are the Bugaboots you reviewed with a higher cut and a lower temperature rating. I have had them for two years in Wisconsin winters. They are great aside from a little heat loss through the sole of the boot. I remedied that with a cheap Yaktrax $10 insole I put over the regular insole. Anyway, I think the Columbia boots were at a slight disadvantage during the heat loss test. They are designed to radiate warmth from the foot back to the foot. They use slightly thinner insulation as a result of their Omni-heat. I do not think the plastic bags would radiate much heat back from the sides of the boot. That is just my opinion. They were still close in results to some of the other boots as far as temperature goes even without their radiant technology utilized. I also realize it would be crazy time consuming, but one would almost have to wear all the boots to feel how warm they truly feel. Still a cool test though.
Good choices! I think Sorel updated this boot recently. I tried on the Sorel Caribou XT and the fit was spot on! The boot itself was also very lightweight. It wasn't built quite as strong as the one you have here (tank) but very similar. My only complaint was similar to your complaint. The tungue gusset is thin with nearly no insulation in the one spot. Although the laces tighten right up and pretty much seal that area. I personally think they could have done better with the tongue. Should have been slightly more insulated or padded to prevent heat loss. Other than that the new sorel caribou is a great boot! Love the removable insert! Great review!
Best video of actually testing winter boots yet! Thanks.
Now this is what i call applying basic science. Thank you for making this video!
I had the kamik, I was very impressed great grip on ice and when step on wet puddles immediately will feel secure some how it will gain more traction, lasted long and wore them 12-14hrs a day 7 days a week.
What is this quality content, such a good reviewer, my god. Thanks man.
I don't know about you guys but I never want a boot that is gigantic like the Sorel in this review. If that means I need to avoid hiking for hours in the deep snow, fine.I'll find something fun to do in my not so gigantic boots. Yay.
This was a great series of tests. Thanks.
To preform a terminal test you have to have a heat source in the boot. The sock was the same temp of the boot. Try putting a hand warmer in the sock roll the top of the sock up then place it in the boot with a towel stuffed in the top to keep cold out of the opening the use the flare camera at 30min 45min and 1hr.
Vasque boots are the most comfortable I've ever worn they've been around since 60 50s
1. Different boots for different purposes. The sorrels and kamiks are supposed to be snow boots in very cold weather... They didn't have water primarily in mind. As far as my experience with winter here in Canada and cutting wood and snowplowing with Atv for 10 to 12 hours at a time it is the wind chill and standing still with no movement that will really put a boot to the test. As far as slippery....? You can't tell from feeling it... Traction doesn't translate that way... Also I don't care how well a boot is made... Put some light fresh snow on ice and every boot will slip.
Thank you for your constructive comment Michael. Take care!
i am looking at buying winter boots. i will also be working outside in winter on farm and have issues with cold feet. which boots do you use and which would you recommend Michael G? wind chill and standing still in mind
@@michaeloosthuizen7918 Hi, for cutting wood in winter, early spring and late fall I use the Chippewa super logger boots American made. They are insulated and very durable full leather with vibrant soles, steel toe and good year welt. I wear them when im basically moving around and not standing still in deer stand or plowing snow with 4 wheeler. When out for a walk in winter or plowing snow I bought myself a pair of Kamik, Canada boots rated for -70 Celsius I think... Never had issue with cold feet plowing snow for hours and hours in -25 to -30 degree Celsius.. good traction and removable liners... I can't seem to see the actual name on them but I will get back to you... I have to go help someone with wood ATM.
@@optimoprimo132 thank you for the reply
Good review but you really didn't cover comfort. You need to wear them to test that. Is the lacing system comfortable? Do you get a blister on your heel? Lateral movement ok? Walking on ice? And to me, sometimes the flex of the material when you're walking can cause pain during long hikes. I also wear aluminum snow shoes and would want to know if they bind.
I wish, I could take all boots outside an really test them, but I was not allowed to that. Also, to really test each pair well I would need to wear it for at least a week every day. This is unfortunately impossible for me, and it would be hard to incorporate in a short video. I already selected one pair and will record real world test. It should be posted soon. Stay tuned. Take care!
One or maybe the best review i found
Just bought me a pair of Bugaboot 3 for a mountaineering trip. They look pretty solid hopefully they hold well. I have a pair of Columbia Peak Freaks and Newton ridge That wore to the ground. Columbia makes some solid Boots
Outstanding video!! Thank you!!
Thank you sir for an excellent an objective review of those snow boots you tested!
Glad it was helpful!
3:06 excellent call. I have bugaboot and it cracked exactly there 2 days go. I look for other boots recommendation and bump in yours video. Edit side rubber cracked at multiple places.
The boots with the fabric are a lot more waterproof than I expected.
For the thermal test I would have used small water balloons in a very light sock or even a stocking. I think the thermal mass would have shown the differences better.
Otherwise it's s useful video.
Creasing at the vamp when it bends really isn't a sign that the material will fail. In fact thicker materials will generally crease more aggressively.
You forgot two things!. #1 how much does each pair weigh?, #2 how much does each pair cost?.
I very much like your scientific approach. However, please consider the following:
1) "Waterproofness" often goes both ways. The more waterproof your boot is the more problem you will have with sweat/condensation from inside. This is particularly important for boots used during multi day tent trekking with limited drying possibilities. After many years use I have now abandoned Nokian Naali for this specific reason.
2) The heat test is good idea. However, sock is cold when it goes in and cold when it comes out. It would have been better to put a hard boiled egg direct from pan in each boot. Block opening with isolating sock or plastic. Then make heat test first on boot, to see if heat is leaking out. After some hours take temperature on egg to verify heat loss in egg.
3) As already mentioned always use wool (socks). Wool is providing good insulation and warmth even when wet. Cotton absorb all moist, provide bad insulation when wet and cool everything in its proximity when the moist vaporize. That said, contrary to what might be expected a cotton smock works surprisingly well as protective exterior layer winter time. This is due to that it sucks the moist from your inner layers so that your body stay dry, and vaporize it better than most high tech/gore-tex material. Finally it's great windbreaker if woven correctly.
Just some ideas.
@HLHinson, No I did not criticize. I gave opinion that can be regarded by everyone who find them valuable and disregarded by everyone else. ;-)
tight and thin wool socks, thicker generic cotton boot socks arent a bad combo. The key to double socking is a thin tight base layer and a little room under the thicker outer layer. Just like the rest of the body. Thin wool dress socks work very well for the wicking layer and are often way cheaper for the buget minded folk.
My wet foot solution (wet snow area here) to the problem of breathability vs waterproof was to go with mukluk sorel style and a second liner. I swap liners while the other dries. Takes all day to fill it with sweat and no water gets in. Budget option for that is buy felt liners, and bring them to go try on rubber muck boots at a farm store.
About the Red Wing Irish setter boots never had a problem with mine
thank,you prove kamik iceberg works well, good rubber boots are true gold.hope i find my size...
Wow man you have done a lot of efforts to do this...good luck
Thank you for watching and the support. Take care!
General rule of thumb. If it is made in China, make sure you carry shoe glue everywhere. Because longevity is the problem with them.
I must say u do a nice job on your videos. I’m choosing to subscribe today. Thanks again for great content.😁👍👍
Thank you for watching and your support Bill. Take care!
Most excellent review !! Very well thought out manner in which to do the testing !! A bunch of folks could learn greatly from this review and the process you choose !! Funny I am looking for some new boots . Have used the Solomon Tundra's the last few yrs , great WP and VERY warm boots but stiff !
I am glad you found my review and tests helpful. That was my goal. Thank you for watching. Take care!
This was very helpful - thank you very much for a great review!!
I appreciate your comment and your time to watch. I am glad my video was helpful to you. That is my main goal. Take care!
..in the 60's, Finnlanders in Ontario would have 100% all-felt boots sent here from Scandinavia...great, as long as you are on clean cold dry snow...
Can't believe you don't have Baffin Impact or Eiger on this list. Only the warmest boots available.
Thanks for the test , I was gonna buy the northside bozeman lol not anymore
I no longer buy brand name boots. They all claimed the boots were water-proof. None were. Finally I took a chance and bought a pair of no-name boots, made in China. They cost only $70 Canadian. They are water-proof, warm, good-grip, sturdy breathable, and light-weight. Check all the boxes.
I did too, they are warm etc but somehow they suck your socks off and you can only get your foot out bare. Back to sorels with sheepskin liners for me
You saved a lot of grief by doing this test - you lose your feet, you can lose your life - good vid👍
Cool and VERY PRACTICAL REWIEV. Real Thanks
Amazing WOrk bro.........Great series of tests very useful
...Thank you
Thank you for watching. I am glad my video helped. Take care!
Really good Boot review
Thanks for watching. You have interesting profile picture. Your own design? Take care!
The Medicine Wheel, sometimes known as the Sacred Hoop, has been used by generations of various Native American tribes for health and healing. It embodies the Four Directions, as well as Father Sky, Mother Earth, and Spirit Tree-all of which symbolize dimensions of health and the cycles of life.
Very nice. Thank you for the explanation. Take care!
Very good video.I have four different pairs of boots at home & none of them are good.
Hello everybody,
If you are looking for new snow boots for cold winters this video will help you to possibly make your final decision. Let me know how you like the thermal camera data. Take care!
wow! great review and comparison vid!
Thanks for watching. Take care!
thank you so much for this video! :)
bonjour so which one is the best ?
Please watch my following video about the boots I choose. Take care!
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I don t speak english fluently
Please tell me which one is the best ?
What do u think abouth decathlon boots - SH100 Ultra warm?
I am not familiar with those boots at all. Sorry. Take care!
Very good tests big guy. 😎👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🇺🇸
Man I need the Sorel size 8.5 US not available
The link is from Amazon
Any other link to get this boots ? I want to use from the channel. Thank you
Unfortunately, I do not have any other links. Thanks for watching. Take care!
You won’t like those big handles when they get caught on a branch, why would you wear big gloves to put boots on? Put the boots on first, then the gloves
That was a lot of work. Good job
Thank you. Take care!
Good review , thanks for sharing ,God bless !
great test thank you for your video
Thanks for the review ! And... a guy with such an accent, and looks, then you know he knows what he is talking about ! He sounds like he would survive a year in Siberia without shelter... !
I appreciate your honest and funny comment Baila. I am glad you like the review. Take care!
@@MODERNSURVIVALTACTICS Good to hear, and thanks!
Thank you , MST .
Thank you
Thanks for sharing , great information.
Which on u hve select
The Kamik. Take care!
cau . ja mam kamik. do vysokeho snehu dobre, ale tkanicky nesnasim. nejoblibenejsi boty na chozeni po snehu, nebo ve snehu mam dc with boa system.
Great review. 👍
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Great video
This is what i call a TEST
I am glad you like it. Take care!
!!!!Excelentes my friend...Tanks
Thank you so so much
C for effort.
I see what you tried to achieve there, but unfortunatelly, you are missing out on lots of variables.
How about body heat, instead of just plastic shoved in a cotton sock? How about moisture building up inside the shoe from the sweat, the amount of which is determined by that same body heat, which in its turn is determined by the level of activity, the metabolism, the type and number of socks worn (sorry, but cotton socks are a bad choice on cold winter days, especially if they involve some activity), and so on?
The first three pairs; the fourth one; and then fifth together with the sixth belong to three different classes, and are built for different purposes, therefor they can't be compared in a fair way.
And most of all, you are missing the main thing of any test and review: WEAR THEM OUTSIDE! Have you ordered the boots for this video, and then returned them, so that's why you couldn't actually use them? A bit lame, don't you think?
I'm done here.
I couldn't agree more with you but do you know of another video that covers everything you mentioned?
The metabolism? Are you serious? These were kinda simple boots review and tests. My metabolism has nothing to do with water entering my boots when I step into water or snow. They either work or not. Also, why I would order that many pairs of boots without an option to return them? It makes no sense. Did you expect me to wear one new pair every week during a winter?
Thank you sir
I love your accent. Say snow boot 5 times.
Extremely perfect test , thank you very much for sharing your video bro 👏👏👏🖒🖒🖒👢👢👢🛠🛠🛠👞👞💖💖💖💖
I bought a pair of them bozemans they came apart at the scenes the first week of worm too much synthetic and the rubber is too cheap
Where is the follow up video ??
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Got to have at least 800 or 1000 g of insulation or permal off to do any good for you it just ain't worth it without that much
sorel by kaufman was excellent, sorel by china is garbage in comparison. shame you didn't try baffin, they imho are the top tier boot maker. the snow monster is unbeatable.
kamik👍
Vasque and then Sorel....
I love my KAMIK boots. They are unbeatable as practical, waterproof and warm boots. Take care!
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Finnish? Swedish? Where you from? Can't place the accent
I was born in Europe. Take care!
das boot!
Winterstiefel. Take care!
how the fuck do boots like the Northside get "signed off" by the design team etc ? Its just stupid
Where's my patch. I subscribe a month or so ago.
Your patch? Do I owe you something Jesse? You should read video's descriptions before expecting something to just come.
next video. really.
Columbia is my least favourite!
Too much synthetics
It’s ‘boot’, not booth
I don’t like any of those “Booths”
All that for no answer terrible booo brutal
What answer? Like which boots you should buy? It is up to you. You watched the video and the tests. Also, if you were looking for my "answer" watch my following video. Take care!
Nice review but totally useless test
The tests saved me before buying a wrong pair of expensive boots. I am happy with my choice. Take care!
Your test is completely flawed and inaccurate nice try doing nothing ?
Sure.