Extended Off Grid Enhanced Solar Package! • Winnebago FLX
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- Today we take a deep dive into the features, advantages, and even drawbacks of the Winnebago FLX Package for enhanced off-grid function with special Guest Grant Smith, the Micro Minnie product manager himself!
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The most common mod someone would want to do to this is add 2+ more panels. Would love to see an option where the roof is covered in panels, maybe a 2nd battery. The rest is perfect
I think 2 more panels sounds reasonable
I like to see a ratio of 2 to 1 with panel watts Va battery amp hours
Love the FLX package, should be an option for every RV.
Forrest river was one of the first with power packages. Same concept.
As long as you're paying for it, the Flex should come on any camper you want. Excellent Breakdown!
Thank you for covering the FLX package, Josh. It really is an advanced system. Granted, I made my own FLX package for my 2225RL, but Winnebago is really class leading when it comes to their FLX package.
My pleasure!
Thanks Josh, I wish they had a couple more panels. If you could do about 8 hours of AC and keep your fridge going at night and get by on a few rainy days that would be ideal. To me this is absolute minimum that should be on all RVs. There are too many ways to not have power and if you are on a trip and need to work on a computer you need to be able to do it.
That would be cool
Rockwood/Flagstaff are offering 1000W of panels, with 3kW inverter and 400aH battery. I feel like with an offering like that on the FLX package and larger 55g fresh & 40g grey water tanks on the Micro Minnie line, they would be more ideal boondocking units
We have had the FLX for a year and we love, it's easy to tow with my Tacoma too. With that said, no one is really trained on how these systems work together.
As a customer you will need to spend hours learning them system and configurations from TH-cam and the Winnebago user forums.
Totally agree. Mine trips the house breaker when plugged in.
This offers options that many others don’t. That’s always a plus for me. 12V television would be awesome.
TY! It's a package that is far more involved than I actually realized when I first landed down there
Gonna need more than 200 watts of panels for that tv
I REALLY wish Winnebago would take these trailers and put independent suspension on them. Make them more rugged for off-road, or even just logging roads with wash-board roads.
A few other things would be a slide out Kitchen outside with a sink, a burner and counter space.
And lastly would be a water pump that has a filter so you can pull water from a lake or river.
Lol big list! Big dreams!
Didn’t know the heater would heat up the whole tank. That’s interesting information.
Maybe it could have linked compartments in the tank to help keep the hot and less hot water a bit separate.
*A video that is long over due! Thanks Grant and Josh! Everyone needs to understand what the FLX actually offers*
TY! :)
Just by changing your lead acid to lithium you double your capacity… 100ah lithium truly is 100ah vs only get half out of the lead acid… when it comes to charging the lithium resistance is way less… meaning if the solar panel produced 100 watts the lithium is able to receive 99watt and lead acid maybe 60 watts is actually being stored and the rest by way of resistance is heat being created in the battery
$600 worth of 300ah lithium raw cells gets you the power of 6 lead acid batteries and it only weighs around 54lbs that’s 3-400 pounds in savings
Yep yep
Josh, The BIGGEST downfall to the FLX is the Truma A.C. that Win. uses is non ducted. Why I don't know. Truma does make the same size A.C. that is ducted. The FLX really needs a 3rd 200 Watt panel on the roof with the ability to use a portable solar panel. Many owners of the FLX have had a lot of trouble with their units. One of the HUGE complaints is that the Dealers can't explain them on PDI due to poor training by Win, most Dealers Service Depts. have not been trained on the FLX system. In fact if you check a certain on-line RV shopping service there are a BUNCH of 2022 FLX's listed at heavily discounted prices.........just not moving.
2024's are showing up. RV prices in general are dropping as they should. So why is it a bad thing to see 2022 FLX's being discounted? Sincere question, as I am looking to get such.
Wow Grant's TH-cam video ready man, Josh Grant's doing a Great job helping you out on this video 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Yeah he did fantastically. Not easy for anyone to just jump on camera like that. Took me years to develop a "flow"
Josh, you’ve got the best humor anywhere!! It’s really neat watching your videos!!😂
Wow, thanks! Appreciate you visiting 😊
I really enjoy your videos. You’re a wealth of knowledge.
Wow TY :)
I love the details on this unit. Great demonstration and explaining what this unit offers. Guys, I'm this enjoying video.
Awesome, thank you!
I want. Camp host in summer and quartzite in winter. Solar 24/7
Absolutely the television should be 12 volt. And as an aside, this is a beautiful RV. Very “Boondockable”.😁
Without your name on the vest, you look like my elementary school crossing guard. Thanks for the videos. 🙏🏻
He sounds equal parts handsome and humble 😆
Thank you! Looking at changing rv’s and Winnebago was one I’m Interested in! This was very informative!!
Glad it was helpful!
This is exactly the type of electrical system I’m looking for in a RV! I would like to see a dc to dc charger wiring in RV as well. Is there an option to add another battery? Maybe at the dealer level? I like this a lot!
No factory to offer another battery but aftermarket the sky’s the limit
Adding a battery would cost about $5,000, because you’d need to keep the same brand, capacity, voltage, etc.
Great video having Josh and Grant explain the FLX package. Very interesting. S/B on all Winnebago Rv’s. We now have a Outdoors RV dealer in Pa.
I’d love to have ORV or Northwood stuff more available in the Midwest but the shipping cost is brutal to get them from Oregon
Great that Josh and Grant explain the FLX package. S/B on all Winnebago RV’s. Great Video Josh. We now have a Outdoors RV dealer in Pa.
Awesome! Thank you!
12v TV for sure. It is much more efficient to run it directly off of DC12v rather than battery DC12v > inverter AC110v > TV (which internally converts AC110v to DC12v
I agree
Great video, thanks 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
17:45 that management system is very impressive. I’ll leave other time stamped comments as well. Wow, Winnebago. That “built in” battery is doing the things I was thinking without me Sending you an email!
A 12V TV should definitely be included for off grid use👍
I wish more manufactures would offer the Truma and battery options. We love our on-demand Truma. Probably the only thing on our trailer that hasn't had an issue.
I've owned my 2306BHS FLX for a year now..... Absolutley LOVE the Truma applicances..... I run the AC in the summer off a 110v connection to the camper using a 30amp to 110v converter. Infact, every applicance will run using the 110v as long as you don't try to use more than one applicance at a time. Which is great for moochdocking. I've got 7 days out of the battery using it for multiple things including AC use sparingly. Only gripe would be it needs maxxair fans. It was a learning curve to figure everything out though. Maybe I'll make a video on it ;)
Wow that’s some awesome intel
Ty so much
l'd love to see the option to expand to other models, also love a quick disconnect for battery removal if not connected to shore power over our lengthy Midwest winters
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Josh, Great video! Noticed that hot water heater door attachment right away! This is a way cool RV....thinking seriously about this one!
Very cool. Thank you for watching!
Good informative video! Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
On the Truma A/C they support ducted installs and Winnebago aught to run ducted like they do in the non-FLEX Micro Minnies. We've thought about replacing the Furrion on our Grand Design with the Aventa Comfort so we can get the dehumidifier mode. We camp in cooler or cold weather in addition to southern summers and while we don't need the A/C we still need to control the humidity to be comfortable at night.
Based on our experience the 25 gal holding tanks will carry a couple 2 to 3 nights before needing to be emptied. If the guys go outside and you forgo showers you could maybe push that to four days.
Winnebago needs to get back to enclosed cabinets over the bed. Things fall off of open shelves. There is also the fact that a lot of folks don't want to be staring at their clothing and other items hanging out in the open.
For the water miser I disagree that you should not use it when connected to city water. We camp at a number of state campgrounds that are electric/water sites. With waste holding tank capacity at a premium I want the water wasted waiting for it to get hot to go someplace other than my grey tank. Maybe some way could be found to give an audible warning or alarm that the fresh tank is getting full. Personally I wouldn't mind something like that when using the gravity fill too as it would keep me from forgetting while I am off doing other things.
My techie brain is in love with this system 😍
It’s like you approach it thinking “oh it’s just solar and a battery. Plus that inverter.”
Then you see all the Truma stuff and realize it’s actually an extremely involved package
Thank you for explaining the WHY behind this package. Some other manufacturers have done similar things (800Ah battery and only 600 watts solar) and it didn’t make sense to me since I have 700 watts on my 200Ah battery and that isn’t enough for overcast days. You put it all into proper perspective.
I want to put a whole new topic on your radar: high amp USB C. Harding. Currently I have a large table, when I use an 30 watt wall charge it charges very fast and will charge when using it. I purchased a high amp USB C outlet for the RV, one that can put out over 18A, but it charges like the old 2.2A USB ports: charges very slow and only maintains the charge when using it.
What I have learned is the high amp USB C outlets achieve this by being able to deliver both 15v and 20v. Here is the kickers: these outlets require 24v input to provide those higher voltages.
With laptops now charging by 40w to 100w USB C and now that larger tablets are on the market, I would love to see more and more RV’s start to offer these true high watt outlets.
So you know if the batteries in this are 12v or 24v?
Rvs are always 12v systems
@@JoshtheRVNerd I have seen many TH-cam videos about folks installing 24v systems in RV’s. I just assumed some manufacturers were also installing them as stock. I stand corrected. With the direction personal electronics are going, it might be wise for this to be reevalusted….
Would love see the flex package on larger models also. I like the built in battery and the warranty that comes with it, also like Truma a/c system with the de humidification built in.
Great video
TY! :)
Good video. You should have more industry reps in your videos. They provide good insight about their products. Industry standard should be max solar on the roof. One never knows when you’ll need it.
As someone who exclusively park camps I couldn’t want thousands of extra dollars standardized but that’s me
great tech in that camper
Yeah the FLX package is a lot more than just an extra solar panel. I actually learned a lot going thru all this
*Hi have built my Minnie 2801BHS Minnie (The bigger version on Micro Minnie) to be an FLX. it is SWEET!*
That sounds awesome!
Very nice lookin Travel Trailer from Winnebago 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
It sure is!
😊😊👍👍👍👍👍 and Grant did a very nice job assisting you 😊😊👍👍👍👍👍
I went early in the video to see if this package was available on any of the larger campers, and was dissapointed when it was not. So yes, I do think it would be a great addition to the Minnie, and yes even the Voyager models.
TY. That's good input
It would be nice if the FLX options were available on the smaller micro minis like the 1708 and other 1700s. Not all of us want to pull the 2100 micro minis which are the only ones with the FLX features.
I think they’ve had trouble physically fitting some of the hardware into those models but that 1720 would be a great fit
I don’t recall which TH-camr it was, but somebody recently did a video with Winnebago, and they said they’re working on a 1720fb flx. Maybe soon?
Note to winnebago, people would pay for a factory 1000 watt flexible solar panel option and double the battery capacity. Swap everything you can to 12 volts. There would be no weight change since u went with light weight flexible panels vs rigid and people would get some real world off grid capability including limited running of AC for a few hours.
Thank you for sharing
12v tv is a must! Might wanna look @ 12v a.c.
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Truma have a full mini split like efficient variable heat pump? That is the way to go. For boon docking or connected. They run 50% less power than what was posted on the video. Also, we need 2000 watts minimum solar for enhanced independent power generation. I would prefer 400 watt panels, as many as can be stuffed on the roof, OR hybrid roof and surface solar…. pulled out for surface solar set up adding to the massive solar roof? I liked the rest of the set up. Many nice features for independence.
Could expanded solar be an option? Like if I had panels of my own already, and wanted to add them into the equation.
To a degree, yes. It depends on total wattage & available space on the roof
Absolutely. You can add one more panel to the roof wired in sequence with the two existing. Any more than that and you’ll need to upgrade the 30A charge controller, or add another. Or you can also plug in portable panels with built in controllers.
I would love to see the FLX package on the 1720FB
That would actually make a lot of sense
Winnebago says it’s coming.
Very interesting and informative. Also, Flex availabvle on all units.
Ty
OK, that’s not at all what I thought the water miser did. I was under the impression that you turn on the hot water with the water miser on and once your water heater gets the water hot enough and it’s recirculating back to the fresh tank you just turn the flip Valve again and take your shower I didn’t realize it and he did the entire tank of water
Yeah it doesn't cycle back to the water heater like you'd think at first. I didn't realize it for roughly a year after I first saw showermisers. My understanding was the same as yours
Watch out!!
As a dyed in the wool pessimist I can report I only have pleasant surprises...
I mean that's not the worst reaction lol
Ok i just started watching i cant help to think that you two are moonlight as construction worker or vise versa 😂
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i keep think its a good idea for the walls to be solar paneled but then im reminded of the efficecy of angled solar panels in relations to solar radiation angle being hit by solar panels
You had me at Squirrels
lol
Love the FLX package. The only questions I had is what type of tape does Winnebago use to attach the front cap? Putty? Butyl? The 2108DS model looked pretty cool.
I do not know the specifics on what you're asking and don't want to venture a guess. I would instead recommend contacting their customer service or a member of our team who could dig into that in more detail for you
Thank you. I will. @@JoshtheRVNerd
This is a really cool package. Yes they absolutely should expand this to the rest of their lines not to mention getting Grand Design onboard. But here is the question what does the Flex package cost? That’s a TON of added capability.
I’m also curious what the assumptions are that underly that 5 day figure for off grid time. Furrion says their 12v fridge uses about 90AH per day. 400w of solar according to one resource equates to about 120AH per day. So right now no lights or anything else your up 30AH. Obviously your going to eat into that and control panels and such have parasitic draws. But if you have a small inverter generator you can run during those brief times when you have high demand items (microwave, maybe some AC, coffee pot etc) you can almost take electricity out of the equation as a limiting factor.
Not being in sales I do not have pricing files available to me but our folks at www.bishs.com/contact-us can get you pricing on models and/or options
Good, but should come with a 500 watt option or plug for external panels.
When plugged in to 110 will it charge the battery as long as your not running the air
Yeah when plugged into park power it'll do all the things an RV would normally do. It just adds an extra layer of function
is there an option to add a second battery pack? How long would it take to charge the Flex package form an inverter generator?
No extra battery offerings from the factory are offered currently
And I have no data on inverter Gen charge times. Especially when it may vary greatly by use
There is not an option but you could do it after the fact. If you do, though, it’ll cost almost $5,000 per battery, since you should only use the same batteries when adding. It’s a 320AH battery and can charge as fast as your generator can handle. 320AH at 12.8 volts = 4,096 watts. There will be some efficiency loss, but you can get very close by dividing 4,096 watts by the continuous output of your generator. For example, a 1,000 watt continuous output generator will charge in 4,096/1,000 = 4.1hrs. If you’re plugged into 30A service, you’ll be limited by the amount the charger can put out (~1,920 watts), which would take as little as 2.1 hours
Before people spend crazy money on a solar package really think about where you camp. I always wanted a robust solar system until i realized that i always camp in the most wooded area possible. I dont care if you have a 10,000 watt system if you camp in the woods its worthless. Solar is great just make sure u use it
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like the concept, but make it available on every rv
Check Forrest River
When do you think mainstream RV's will go 100% electric and get rid of propane?
I don't foresee the main market doing that any time soon but I do see more electric and fewer propane appliances being offered.
It's almost to a point where MFGs have to build one for parks and one for off grid as building for something between isn't really ideal for either purpose
Another hiccup is RV park grids typically struggle to keep up with current RV elec demands and may not yet be able to support full electric
I don't see that happening for a long time, if ever. Batteries, for all the features they offer, are not even close to competitive when the issues is energy per unit of mass.
If my math is correct, this system will supply (name plate) about 3,800 watt hours of power at 12v. So, you could run 3,800 watts, for one hour, and then you have nothing. A 4.5kw (starting, 4,000 running) inverter generator can run about 20+ hours on a 20lb propane tank or somewhere around 10-15 hours on 3.5 gallons of gasoline. So in just one fueling, the generator can produce at least 40,000 watts hours of power on a single fueling, on the low end. In other words, you could use the entire battery banks worth of power in one hour using the batteries or an equivalent amount of power every hour for many hours or days is you have enough fuel.
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of solar packages and I think they have a definite place. But not as a one-to-one replacement for generators and propane.
More roof space seems to be just begging for more solar panels. Probably adds to the price a bit much though. Right?
I don’t necessarily disagree with a package like this
They're supposed to be more of a premium trailer but there isn't a range hood or oven in them. Trailers that sell for half the price has range hoods and ovens. The oven should at least be a factory option. The Convection Microwave I have read from owners, gets the ceiling in front so hot that they shut the Convection Oven off early to prevent ceiling damage.
"settled out of court" 😅😅
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Will they ever offer a package to add more panel’s because rockwood power package comes with 5 200watt panels.
Possibly. This package was designed around models physically smaller than mini lites. There may not be the literal space on the roof to match what Mini is doing
@@JoshtheRVNerdhow many watts and amps can the side solar port handle?
Yes, the TV should ABSOLUTELY be 12v...such TVs are no longer rarities in the RV industry, more and more 12v TVs (like refrigerators) are becoming the standard. What mfgs need to realize on these "MAX Solar" setups is having an invertor is both nice and necessary, but the more things you can do WITHOUT engaging the invertor, the better your battery usage will be. It's also why mfgs should ALWAYS include 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs. Many high draw electronics (like laptops, CPAP machines, or any electronic that comes with an in-line "brick" on the 110v charging cord) can be changed with automobile charging cords (that plug into the "cigarette lighter" barrel-style plugs) and don't need a full 110v change via the inverter. Instead, they need between the 5 volt maximum of a USB charging plug and the full 12 volts from the "cigarette lighter" outlet. So PLEASE lobby both for 12v appliances AND 12v "cigarette lighter" plugs in addition to USB A and USB C plugs in new RVs!!
Great stuff. Ty!!
When I plug my FLX into regular house power, it trips the house breaker. They say lower the Input or Output. But no further instructions. Im getting a 20 code on Inverter, they say look at the screen, which is very difficult to access.
Ok ok this is a Honey of a travel trailer! What about a generator for the purpose of charging the battery ONLY???
Would that extend the stay a little longer???
Thanks Josh!!!🙊🙉🙈
That's what's cool about this package. The inverter is a smart inverter system that will only pull what it needs off the battery to fulfill the demands of the RV
So if you have only a small generator, then the RV will first accept all the power it provides. It will then pull what it needs off the battery to do stuff like finish getting the A/C running
That's what makes it a great "Moochdocking" package. If you have only a 15amp household extension cord for power for example you can still pretty much use your RV normally. Great for visiting family and driveway camping
@@joestravels3027good to know
@@JoshtheRVNerd Just a small correction on this, Josh… the inverter that Winnebago uses is made by Xantrex, and unfortunately they don’t have a feature that allows you to pull some power from the grid and the rest from a battery. That’s something that the Victron inverters do have (they call it PowerAssist). With the Xantrex, you’re either 100% battery or 100% grid. You can’t splice the two together. That said, the Xantrex will almost instantly switch back and forth between sources, so if you’re running the air conditioner on a 15amp grid/generator, the inverter will switch to battery power until the power demand is reduced. When you shut off the air conditioner and the power demand is reduced, it will switch back to the 15amp grid/generator service. These aren’t bad systems, but they do require some know-how to get it to do what you want. As a for instance, if you are connected to 15amp service, you need to change the settings on the inverter to let it know. If you don’t, your inverter will try to pull too much power from the 15amp outlet (even if you’re just charging the battery and not running other appliances) and flip your breaker. Then, it will automatically switch to battery power, and you’ll soon end up with a dead battery, and a flipped breaker, when you thought you had your battery charging.
So run the ac at night for a couple hours before bed to get the heat out.
I wonder if you can charge your batteries using your inverter in your pick up truck while driving? Most pick up have inverters nowadays. Also it would be great if they had an option to control the amount of wattage going in so if you have a 400 watt inverter you can still use it to charge those batteries. My ecoflow solar generator has an option to lower the charging power for more flexability
Any 7-way plug with a charge line will provide 12v power to the trailer. Any unused is stored in the battery
@@JoshtheRVNerdnot with lithium. A vehicles 7-pin won’t charge the rv battery unless a dc-dc charger is added.
Theoretically, you could, but it would be super inefficient, and would take forever. You can change the allowed amp draw of the charging system via the Xantrex inverter/charger app.
Can the newer rvs, like this one, still get a 3 way fridge?
I haven't seen 3-way fridges in my 15 year career outside of some very limited truck campers I'm afraid
I really want the 2327TB, but I want the FLX on it!!! Looking to buy soon. Can I order it that way?
Not offered on the Minnie models currently as it turns out
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What is Not run off Solar on this vehicle? Is there a back up for power if the solar system doesn’t charge enough or fails? Does it have 30-50 watt hook ups?
Solar doesn’t run anything in rvs. It charges the batteries. Thats it
Microwave, air, tv are examples of non-12v items that arent battery powered
1800bh flx please.. it would be nice budget alternative to new AS trade wind
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Does this solor panel system show on the monitor that solor panels are charging the battery
yes
@JoshtheRVNerd I have a MPPT solar monitor and it shows idle. Solar is putting out electricity not getting to the battery.
Pretty great but, let’s put a 12v tv in the unit. 🤦🏻♂️
That battery solar package probably adds 10 grand.
Thankfully no. We keep pricing right on our site if you’d like actual figures
My big question concerns the refrigerator. Is it a 12 volt model or is a 120 volt model that runs off the inverter. And how long can you realistically expect the flex system to keep the fridge running? Boondockers want to know.
12v. No inverter in its equation. There's no hard time data I can offer due to variable conditions. It's generally accepted 200w roughly offsets a 12v fridge's use. Doubling that and including the lithionics battery should pretty much handle it
I'd love to get one of those 2306, but unfortunately, and without reason theyve nixed that model and cant be found anywhere within a reasonable distance.
Ok so a $1500 upgrade for the battery and solar panel/controller means how much extra cost to the camper?
Local teams can assist on package costs. I am not in sales and do not have build sheets
THe battery sells for $4400 alone. Then add in the Truma appliances, MPPT controller, Inverter etc etc... it's all very expensive.
Can extra panels and batteries be added?
Factory doesn’t offer extra batteries on these. Users may add some at their discretion
Most of these models are fairly small so there isn’t a lot of physical capacity to add too much more in the way of panels
But a little from what I can see
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks for the reply
They can after the fact, but if you do add batteries in parallel you’ll need to keep the same brand and capacity. The Lithionics battery Winnebago uses is 320ah and costs almost $5,000! I just sold my FLX and am building my own 900AH battery bank in my new camper for less than that one battery. I would suggest buying a base Micro Minnie and installing your own upgrades, personally, if you’re not sure that 320ah is sufficient.
6:05 with an inverter that size why would a 12v TV be an issue? 🤔
Any time you engage the inverter you’re pulling extra hard on batteries. Anything that is a straight 12v function will maximize use time
Is that a tankless water heater?
These are not
Not quite tankless. It’s about a liter, but it is (semi) instant and constant. And you can set it to the exact temperature you want.
Those exposed cables on the roof should be covered. Not very professional looking. Those will degrade very quickly being exposed
its funny, was at dealership last week, looking at exactly same model of Winnebago but without FLX package (but i heard about it).
Asked dealer if u can or theres some A/C units running on battery - "ouh no, they suck so much power thats impossible...."
Honesty right?
The amount of education that’s lacking out there from EVERY possible party is staggering
I don’t know it all or close. But Man.. the stuff I hear
@@JoshtheRVNerd I don’t know if that’s lack of education or they just want to sell what’s on lot.
Dealers now ain’t have it easy, usually people showing up well prepared after watching many videos, comparing models and packages or are perfectly aware of upcoming changes from factory.
20 or 30 years ago your only information source was RV magazine and whatever dealer told you.
Can you not get these anymore? I tried to find one and I can’t find one newer than 2022.
Yeah they’re still in production
It may not be a common option usually found
So completely off grid you can only run the air conditioner 3 hours? After that you have no power?
Yeah it’s not made for long term extended use
Too bad they don't make any toy haulers. I'd be very interested. I live in a hurricane zone. Having a trailer that is close to being self sufficient is very attractive
Anybody have a under 30ft couple camper recommendation without the dinette and a table and chairs instead? Some of us are too fluffy to fit in them tiny booths
Lot of rvs in that range offer optional table and chairs. Cougar 26rbs for instance
@@JoshtheRVNerd thanks to you my imaginary friend on the internet we purchased the wildwood 22ERAS just this week. No dinette and tons of open room for our dogs
Squirrels. 😂
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as far as 12v TV's go, if you just paid $15K for a off grid package what stations are you figuring your going to get?? this is set up for camping not KOA and walmart boon docking
lol I seriously always wondered this
“You’re gunna find”, or “you’re gunna have”, meaning “there is”, is a strange expression that seems to have appeared in our language over the last couple of decades. Just noticing it, not being critical.
🎉#NerdHerd
Controversial opinion that's not related to this video. I'd rather see rv's drop microwaves as a feature or make it an option. I'd rather have the extra cabinet storage or mount the TV there instead depending upon layout. I've never used a microwave while camping and if you're boondocking, you probably don't want to drain the batteries using it.
When I started back in 2009 some brands were still optioning microwaves
None of these campers have enough solar
Why would anyone buy a camper with less Than a thousand watts of solar,
Majority of rvers are still park campers primarily with little to no need for any level of solar. Forcing packages like that would be a large needless cost for most people
And typically smaller rvs like this cannot physically fit that quantity of panels