Haredi: The Ultra orthodox society in Israel 2/5
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- This is a documentary that follows a variety of people in the Ultra orthodox community in Israel, and tells different stories. First of is the Israeli election, in a feud between the sides in the community whether they should vote or not vote, second issue is the issue regarding education and poverty, where two women try to change the enviroment regarding haredi education and family planning, and the third part is about the controversy surrounding the internet in the Haredi world. Should internet be allowed or not?
First rate documentary making here. So fascinating to get an inside view of a very different world, that of the Haredi. Thanks to the makers of this film.
I find the story of this noble looking woman, this midwife, heartbreaking. How she is able to push aside grief for her barreness at every delivery is heroic.
'I think it is a womanly instinct to have a lot of love to give'........... got me and so true.
You can really see the similarities between the Haredi and orthodox Islam. 1) Women 2nd class citizens 2) Accept no other lifestyle is permitted 3) Huge amounts of time in daily devotions seen as a good thing 4) Disdain for the modern world
Being from the Middle East, I completely agree with you on that comparison. Also, I may add Orthodox and Coptic Christianity is quite similar however not talked about. Maybe it's just how hardcore religious people are from all 3 Abrahamic religions in the Middle East.
Somalie Ahmed Garoon Somalia is not in the Middle East.
The midwife looked very sad while wheeling the baby, as though she wanted to have children herself. Also, the Rabbi’s daughter looked very sad before going in to ask permission to study. When he gave his blessing to her, the way she smiled said a lot.
At the last shot at this video, where the lecturer mentions all the possible negative effects, I want to know, how many of YOU AGREE with what he’s saying?
You do have to realise that Jews are not one group who share in the same beliefs. They are fragmented and one group will not support another. In fact, some of them, even within the strict orthodox faith will oppose and compete with one another. The Jewish faith and people is an amalgamation which at its heart is an individuals connection and relationship with God. It's every man for himself in the quest to please God.
@@Alpine1996 stupid comment.
Wow wow, Hagaon Rabbi Ovadia Yosef Ztl is in this along with his daughter. How amazing he gave her a bracha.
i am so happy Adina can go to school to become a psychologist
Jesus I didn’t realize that my secretary bringing me coffee was an intimate thing lol. Usually I get the grouchy remarks and bitching about whatever is on the schedule that day 😂. I guess I should stop the nicknames too.
@Harrey potter why not? There is no big deal. I'm atheist but still I'm watching this.
As Christian take a look at your inmost self first, then take the walk of Judging.... Let God do his* work, have respect and love for Your Jesus
Are they speaking Yiddish to the camera or Hebrew? I'm assuming Yiddish.
Sitizen Kane Nope Ivriet=Hebrew not Yiddish. Shalom. Peace
I 100% agree with you. It is just a matter to exposure.
I think you mean maybe that the Quran says not to force conversions. But in practice there were many people forced into Islam. Just as an example google "devsirme".
They were ripped... away... from... their families. Would you rather have your family or be rich? I mean seriously.
God bless the Jewish people, and the land of Israel
THIS IS A CULT!!!
"A secretary is not allowed to make coffee for her boss" @ 15:23
well OMG then... fired!!
clearly don't learn that the coffee run is an integral part of office life!
Malaking apple banal na ama maliit na apple holy son malake maliit iisang apple lang pero yung malaking apple yun yung banal na ama amen
10:29 is it the religious guy with a twisted mind named "eli yishai'??!!
send them tô saudi arabia. they Will like them a lot. I mean it.
Thats it. Im going to hell 😂 I done broke all the rules 😭
Why? You think you are better than anybody else? You are not! They are such a greedy people thinking they stand over all.
The correct name is Mesheeca
Wow, her father didn't even answer her question or say anything really. He just gave a generic blessing as if he hadn't even listened to her. LOL
And I don't believe in woman and men sitting together. I don't know what's the big deal about keeping male and female separate. You go to college to study.
If you got to college to study why would a female or male prescence bother you? I don't understand why they separate them and if that is the case why do women have male teachers, nonsense.
They act so weird, I don't want to insult them but they are strange. Every simply action of their entire life connected to god.
unappealing.
You convieniently left out that many were forced to convert out of fear of being murdered.
so much similarities between these orthodox jews n authentic muslims, like separation of men & women, modest dress code, polite way or addressing ppl with respect to their rank/age/gender, proper ways of interacting with opposite gender, opposing secularism among many other things.as a muslim myself i like this ultra orthodox jewish society..it's probably the safest place in Israel..
Me as a Muslim feel very awkward, these orthodox Jews really have a lot of stuff in common with us Muslims, scary crap I guess
+abdx7777 You even hear it in the language, same words have the same origin, Muslims and Jews are after all of the same father no?
+Burdie Birdie
Orthodox jews use to chill with arabs back in the days, this whole hate is done to divide and conquer, it's a very complex world we live in.
+abdx7777 i dont think so. judaism is not just a religion, it is a “lifestyle” with huge amount of spirituality, philosophy and thinking, so practically the opposite of islam
+Hey
Yeh I know about this, the chief rabbi of Jerusalem did not want the european "jews" coming to Israel. I know all this story. This is true. A whole fucking tragedy this is become.
+cool cat huge amount of thinking? To me it seems it's the opposite of that, they are discouraged to think and make any decisions on their own. They can't use computers and that man who said it's the best to not be curious. Curiosity is what has pushed humanity ahead. If this people have electricity is because of curiosity.
Ofcourse ancient jews had dark skintone, they originally lived in the Middle East. People in the Middle East don't have darker skin tone for fun or by accident :) They would have looked like Arabs in regards to skintone. Arabs and Hebrews (ancient Jews) are both Semites and are distant cousins. But many migrated to Europe and it doesn't take a lot of generations to completely wipe out those traits.
"When a secretary brings her boss coffee, it creates intimacy". This seems like an admittance that Jewish men are no more than unbridled teenagers, regardless of age. Why not simply teach the men to behave with maturity?
When the presence of a woman is only for sex, every exposure to a woman will make them feel like that.
@@Alpine1996 WOOOOOOOOOOW you are insaaaaaane lol
common theme. lol. I'll tell one obvious thing. People like you are NOT common. You all must be hidding somewhere in some tiny bubble of the world, where you and your kind about to fade away quietly into silent, pathetic instinction.
The Reason why highly observant Jews separate between man and women so strickly is so people don't even have thoughts of doing anything; even thinking about these things is considered bad.
Dont forget the west did have traditional values and separation of genders. It is only recently that there has been a decline in morals and modesty for the worst.
Why would they undermine the only state thats there to protect them.
I am secular and I still admire the Haredi, deeply.... And weirdly envy their strength and unity... And their sense of community. All communities have flaws but few have the depth of morals and devotions of that particular community...
Same.
But you people are against muslims when they cover their heads u guys have problem, when this community is showing documentry u guys r praising ,hypocrites
scary as fuck
All you're proving is that you're prejudiced. If you put any effort into understanding them, you would have more respect for them as human beings. I also live in Israel. No one's saying that they're perfect, but just like you want respect from others, you should try to respect them as well.
All these rules so they can have a good life in the after life that may or may not exist??WTF! your alive now, see the world, travel and enjoy it!
I feel so sorry for the Midwife. She can quote scripture for days, but it doesn't take away her intense pain. May G-d grant her comfort and peace, and fill her arms with babies in the next life.
Eugenia Syro Amein ve Amein!! Shalom.
Why do you write God that way? "G-d" ?
Eugenie Syro you assume that she feels intense pain because like so many people they can only ascribe emotions that they would feel personally.
The idea that this mid-wife far from feeling intense pain actually feels great joy and pride in her work bring new life into the world on a daily basis never occurred to you.
After all if it was you that was unable to conceive your emotion would be that of intense pain and that in your opinion is the ONLY emotion one can feel if unable to bear children of your own.
I think the fact that she is surrounded by one of the great wonders of the world each day by that I mean NEW BORN BABIES gives a great joy and happiness that so many parents in this world don't feel because they have children out of duty and instruction and are made to feel like MONSTERS if they do anything in there life that is solely for their own development and enjoyment. Depression amongst mothers that have bore 8 -10 children by the age of 33 to a husband who's main ambition isn't to provide for his family but to study the Torah must be pretty high.
@@NRELDN90Because Jews will never say his sacred name.
but she has an adopted daughter . it may not be her real daughter but frankly i don t see much difference
A woman cannot say "regards to your wife" or make her boss coffee? That is not modesty that is outdated inanity. What if the boss asked for coffee and she refuses to make it on ground of not being proper? *facepalm*
Locking yourself away from the temptations of the world is a weakness, if you say your faith in God is strong that's all you need to be out in the world,
this is truly interesting. jazakAllah khair for educating us on the matter. :)
ovadia yosef is the rabbi who said all gentiles were born to serve jews, that gentiles are the same as donkeys. look it up.
+The crazy Nun nice response.
What a sweet baby! Every new life is a miracle!
They average 6 kids to a family now and it has been estimated by 2025 that number will be around 7.9 per family. Do the math and you'll realize they will be over 40% of Israels population by 2040
That's nice. Call them idiots without even knowing them.
I'm Jewish. What saddened me about this video was how coldly the Rabbi treated his very own daughter.
Steven Zimmerman Actually, this may be a stretch but my gut feeling is that he’s suffering from early dementia. I work with elderly people and it looks something like that. He really didn’t understand her question, hence the vague non-answer he gave her.
Well, mymymy... On could hope, but I've seen other Rabbi's treat thier daughters this way.
Sadly, I've seen many orthodox Jewish people treat their own children this way. That was one of the reasons why I left the Jewish community. I couldn't bear the materialism and lack of warmth - the children never got so much as a hug and were required to spend their entire time studying. There was no time spent together as a family, no time for the children to play, no loving interactions between parents and children - and most certainly not between married couples. It is heartbreaking.
@@Alpine1996 Do you???
A lot of encounters with orthodox rabbis during blessings go like this. It’s not due to lack of care. It’s that there is a line out the door and he is a human being.
I was just pointing out that your figure of 5 kids minimum is wrong. The stats i've seen claim it averages out to 6 kids per family. I was just showing that there is more than you thought. And yes we are on the same page, i was wanting ppl to see the actual numbers of this tribe and the projections for them in a couple of decades
11:44 Did she says "Salam Abah" to her father?? wow i'm amazed... in my country, Abah have a same meaning as father too.
Halo ***** im sorry i little bit late to reply your message. My phone got some trouble.. im from Indonesia mate. And where u from my friends?
Duh
so if Papenheims sect reject everything about the state they live including its very right to exist why bother living there ? im sure a vast majority of Israeli citizens would not shed a tear if they emigrated
Yeah, people who are hospitable, give charity, promote learning and strong families...that's some serious danger right there.
Good documentary.
So much disrespect and ignorance for a different way of thinking. It’s an older way of thinking that deserves respect and tolerance. You can’t place your own ideals on Hasidism and expect them to match. They won’t.
Baruchashem, love the Jewish people on all ends of the scale.
because the ultra orthodox know the truth! YAY!!!
modesty is priceless.
Islam defines it.
If they're against the state of Israel why do they choose to live there? And why does this documentary have to show the shittiest parts? So much if the country is so beautiful
Taylor Oxenberg bc it’s a holy city. And these Jews live in the crappy parts
they're like the Jewish equivalent to the Amish just to compare.
The Amish atleast work these people dont.
exactly
Well, I'm not a Christian I'm Jewish, so I wouldn't know. But I guess wherever you come from, family doesn't count for very much. That's sad but what can I say? I honestly just feel bad for you. You're missing out.
You mean a Mestizo Mexican? Mexican is a race, not an ethnicity.
She kinda does. But it's usual that some Latinos look like some middle easterners/persians and vice versa.
I often read they adhear to other writings and sayings that are not Torah .So. which is which. some one with insight ?
very very interesting. The Jewish Revolutionary spirit at work even within Israel. It is as if the essential function, the dharma, of the ultra-Orthodox Talmudic people is one of eternal antagonism.
She's a young Jewish mother now that loves her baby ??
intersting people...but how do they earn money for life?
Welfare & slumlords
How they can accept welfare then.... ? They are rejecting any kind of concept of the nation. But living with the government's welfare.... They are seriously nuts.
The documentary itself tells they don´t accept state welfare....
Eugenia Syro are you jewish?
@@eugeniasyro7315 and which country should they be deported to?! can said country depot their undesirables to israel?!
Wonderful....May Allah(swt) bless you all more and ever more....safeguard you....!
i like your name azeri
Look how awful of a relationship the rabbis daughter has with him. She never even knew him. Yet, he had plenty of sex enjoyment to conceive her and her siblings to ignore them like that. Same as the Mormons and Muslims.
And they all speak in Hebrew!
Instead of introducing the ultra Orthodox Jews to Internet, it would be better to be introduced to intranet.
What I mean.
Intranet is a closed network only accessible by registered users. It doesn't offer access to Internet and the temptations it hides.
The ultra Orthodox Jews will have access to blogs, photos, videos, comments that are only posted by them and not foreign anonymous users.
They will have modified android tablets with restricted features and high security.
For example the tablets could be opened only with the registered fingerprint of a male user above 40 years old, no codes will be allowed. The physical presence of the proper user of the tablet will be always necessary for the tablet to operate. That technology exist and is not expensive.
To avoid the access of different wifi spots only WiMAX technology will be used. WiMAX is wireless, fast, encrypted, powerful, quite cheap and above not accessible to ordinary computers. It can cover with a few repeaters the small area of ultra Orthodox Jews.
+Agnostos Gnostos This sounds like a fantastic idea. They would have their cake and eat it too. Go talk to their leaders, explain it to them. I'm sure it would improve the lives of their youth dramatically. They would feel they aren't decades behind their neighbors due to strict fallacies about the secular world.
yes intranet is the solution. tablet can advance efficiency of learning.
+Achilleas Labrou You're forgetting something. They do not want to work, and do not want contact with the outside. Where will they get tablets from? Why do you think they want blogs? They are the worst sort of parasitic virus. They will happily condemn the others that protect them. They care about nothing but themselves. Dont waste time helping them, they won't thank you.
stayjit, but they are using cellphones so intranet with all the restrictions possible is a good starting point.
Not quite. The customs of these particular Jews did evolve in Europe, but that has nothing to do with their interpretation of Judaism. That more to do with how they dress, pronunciation of some letters and a few minor changes in prayer. Barring that, they are virtually identical to Middle Eastern Jews- both use the same Code of Law (Shulchan Aruch) with only some small changes and to Yemenite Jews who do use a different book (Maimonides) but it is identical in the vast majority of its rulings.
I wish that lady had children ☹
so strange their interpretation of the life🐝🐝
We are all Humans we should look like each other. Peace
Thanx for this intro to this comunity, i cant see this on my own eyes, so its great to know about them a little bit
I can not find the third part 😥😓 help someone?
There is no difference, we and they are same.
A woman's place is at home. She can study at home. There aren't enough hrs in a day to study what I would want to study. God ordained a woman to b at home with her children. Ofcourse she can study a little bit but if it doesn't contribute to neglecting husband and kids.
Adriana Gumienny these women don’t stay home. They work while the husband does not
Raquel is great . so much love to deliver
Literally thousands of books @ 8:57 to give the grand illusion this rabbi is wise. There is no way he had time to read all of them and still had time to minister to so many people. And women are definitely not treated as equals but subservient.
if you don't want to live in the world and share with other folk then you should live in a cave away from everyone.
After Bible destroyed by humans, Quran came as a rejuvenator with Messenger of God Muhammed (S.A.V), and God said, After that there won't be any religion, and you should act with basis on Quran. Deniers didn't come Islam, but people who believes in God trully came.
Exactly! We infidels only obey PROVEN Prophets as Moses, who the Almighty himself appeared to in front of over million eye witnesses on Mt Sinai - NOT in some so-called old cave! As for Jesus even the Christians don't look at him as a Prophet , as the era of prophesy has long ceased, and only the Messiah will be the next and last prophet!
Why everybody thinks that the midwife is still in grief and in pain and suffers??? It's so hard for most of the ppl to accept that the woman might be pretty Ok with her situation, she isn't rebellious, she doesn't put claims against God in this regard, she just accepts the life she was given by God and sees all the pluses of her position. Stop feeling bad for her.
I said, 5 kids minimum. On the bus today i saw a Haredi woman with 7 kids, that's fucking mental. I don't see the point of your comment tho since we're on the same page.
Oh man listen to the backward stupid rules @ 14:10, they can't even say "regards to your wife or husband" I'm in complete agreeance with what Voltaire said about the jews
I was just throwing a number which seemed accurate from what i've seen. It's not an official statistic or something, just a personal evaluation.
Do you think that mixing men, and women work? well let me put it this way, me as a 5"4 tall black men, where ever I go, I have to confront the fact that there is always a white woman who is afraid of me at work, and who is going to try to get me kick out just because she fears Black men, If the American society was like the Israel society I would be in a much better condition by now. I believe in the separation of men and women on the work place.
I love Bambi
bass13mary She is a bright spot in a dismal landscape.
Barren is a stupid word. Not always the women's problem either. Duh! She handles her grief, if she has any, by helping to bring babies into the world. That becomes her joy.
I don't know what you mean with that aunt comment. Lev. 18:12-13.
I'm not a zionist either.
I don't know if it occurs to you, but there might be room for a third option where children aren't stolen from their families but were still allowed into the government.
I wonder how the Turks were treating these people that they felt the need to do this...
Come on, that's your answer? They had a better life that way? I guess that's the same answer you would give for the Orphans' Decree in Yemen.
The similarities are understandable......google Maimonides!
If the rebbis allowed them all ,men and women, to read ISAIAH 53, they would see who the Messiah is.
Hats off? Lol, more like 2 hats on! I always go do give Chareidim credit and say hats off but it's clearly too ironic to say!
Khazar.
Funny how its 'ultra orthodox' for jews but 'fundamentalist' for muslim
@Samuel Levy fyi I've done my research in islam, and to be frank, that religion is nothing like what it is portrayed to be by the media.
@Samuel Levy i bear witness that it is. I would advise you to pick up the Quran and read it. Subjectively or objectively, thats upto you. But read it.
how could anybody read all those books and not have a lot of opinions?
Many academic coleagues reccomended to repite "here is going to hanko-sango(pé-sujo)"
im muslim and i love these jews :)
Yep, not to FALSE prophets.
Wtf this main rabbi loves rolex 🤣🤣🤣
You are not to kiss new babies!! Be clean...
Not to your prophets, you mean...