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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มี.ค. 2013
- It is a well-known fact that the Netherlands contains an enormous treasury of fine historical organs.
Thanks to its special historical conditions, the Netherlands is regarded as the organ garden of Europe.
Today organ-making is mainly considered a traditional handmade skill in the Netherlands.
Piet Raadgever is a craftsman who has worked his whole life in the field of organ building. He retired earlier this year.
Sadly for Piet, neither of his two sons wanted to continue the business.
SOUNDBITE: PIET RAADGEVER, Organ maker
"Because of the economic situation and secularization of the society that not so many people go to church any more, the organ building business declined. there's only half of the employees left."
According to the craftsman, the fact now is that less organ builders means there is more work to do. Sometimes people have to be on a waiting list for up to 5 years to get one made.
leo van doeselaar's enthusiasm is wonderful!
After learning of Gert Van Hoef and others on the Internet, delighted to learn of Jaap and his facination with ancient and modern Dutch organs. KEEP IT UP!!!
A nine-minute report on organs contains about three seconds of organ sound.
I’m a young adult and I’ve been obsessed with the music referenced in the video and anything “classical” since I was 13. I would listen to any type of music, and something would always light up inside me whenever I was involved with music. Now I’m training to become a music teacher at university. It would be a real shame if we let these beautiful old instruments and the music played on them just fade away, not to be heard or seen again. I live in a society that wants me to like and join in with all the pop music and culture that other millennials are into in order to fit in and be fully accepted. I don’t work like that though, because I have my own pleasures, and most of all, I have my own tastes in music. I think Classical music is still relevant today, because even Pop music can be inspired by composers like Bach, who would also have been inspired by other earlier composers and some of the old masters of his time, like Buxtehude.
I have some ideas on how to configure an organ structure in such a way as to both simplify regular maintenance and make for better integration into a concert hall's structural framework. My ideal Flentrop would have its dual Pedaal chests in both ends of the main case, with the Hoovdwerc, Borstwerc, and keydesk betwixt them, and the rear casewall of the Rugpositief two meters from the keydesk to allow for both registrants and recording crews; the Pedaal rollerboards would run half the overall width of the main case. Building codes in my native California (USA) force an extra-stout endoskeleton in the case, with reinforced hardpoints for tying the organ to the backstage shear-wall matrix. For a hall with 20-30 feet floor to ceiling at the stage end, I'd recommend a Pedaal with 32' flute/16' principal chori, Rugpositief with 8' flute (broken Cornet plus Querpijp 1)/4' principal chori, and a Borstwerc expanded from a continuo organ specification, all of which can be referenced from:
HOOVDWERC
16 Boordun
8 Praestant
8 Roerfluit
5-1/3 Nazaat
4 Octaaf
4 Speelfluit
3-1/5 Ters
2-2/3 Quint
2 Gemshoorn
(2 + 1-1/3 + 1 + 2/3) Mixtuur IV
16 Dulciaan
8 Trommet
Verity interesting,did not know of this situation. in the Netherlands,that is,. Young folks should carry on for the purpose of the church.
The future of the organ building is to reduce the cost of restorations using proportional key action system and use the ancien windchest.
What is the piece he plays on 4:57?
Improvisation
Care for something different? A 1928 Kimball theatre organ in Juneau, Alaska. Selections include Beatles, Pink Floyd, Metallica, Twisted Sister, Scorpions, Cinderella, Alice Cooper and more: th-cam.com/video/dWxYGdOJL1o/w-d-xo.html
nice but these things are prohibitively expensive
Organs are, initially, very expensive, due to the cost of materials and labour needed to build them. However, they are cheap in the long term, because, 1/ they last (indefinitely, if properly maintained) and, 2/ they produce a good quality sound.
If your only interest is in the financial cost of an instrument, then buy an electronic organ of some sort. It will be cheap, easy to install, and fail within a relatively short time. Then you can buy another. And all this time, you can have sub-standard music from an instrument which *reminds* you of what you are missing, and played by an organist who can't get a job playing the real thing, or who is willing to put up with what he knows to be second-best and uninspiring.
But don't worry. After a year or two, you will stop noticing the difference. You will have become musically dull, your expectations lowered by the second-rate sounds produced by the electronic and its unfortunate player.
Then again, why not go for the *really* cheap option and get in a few untalented young people with guitars and drums. Now you really *have* hit rock bottom!
Offshoreorganbuilder As someone who goes to a church which mothballed it's pipe organ 18 years ago I can only concur.
We've spent £5000 on new speakers and manuals, and re-voicing and we're still not done. It really needs a new computer. At present it has three 486Mz (1997 technology) machines which barely cope. It only knows how to blast, it can't do subtle because none of the flutes have any presence, the diapasons are dull and boring and the big reeds just bark or buzz. This is an improvement on what it was like!
Paul Wheeler Interesting!
In a cathedral, known to me, a well-meaning but misguided person (the then organist) persuaded the authorities there to spend a huge amount of money (estimates vary between £50,000 and £70,000 -. no-one will admit to the true amount) on one of the latest electronics.
It has 3 manuals, a sequencer, fistfuls of stops and an impressive array of pistons. It looks just like the console of a large pipe-organ and even has a 'west end' section. Great? Swell? Alas, no. The sound reminds you, strongly, of a pipe-organ, but the reed basses are buzzy, as is the bass of the Bourdon, the Tuba on the Great obliterates everything else (a thick, 'white' sound) and every stop 'oozes' onto speech in an effort to avoid the 'thump' of the older electronic organs. The 'music committee' bullied into accepting the idea, and others thought it a failure (to put it politely.)
Ill health forced the resignation of the organist, who was replaced by the present one - a professional with a doctorate in music. He refuses to play the new 'organ' if at all possible, so it sits there, a costly mistake, a reminder of the egg which continues to dribble down the faces of those concerned in its purchase. So what do they use to accompany services? - the building's original, Victorian pipe-organ, which, despite an unfortunate position (thanks to the idiot architect, all those years ago) still sounds so much better than its electronic substitute and still works. There are plans, now, to enlarge and re-position it, or even replace it *with another pipe-organ,* though funds are in short supply at present. (Wonder why?)
This sad tale has been repeated many times in the past, and will go on being repeated, as long as those concerned fail to recognise that, whilst it might *look* like a pipe-organ console, an electronic is a different instrument with a very similar, but different sound. Its stop do not exist in reality, and what you are listening to is not pipes, but a number of paper cones in loudspeakers.
*****
***** totally.
Using a candle to find air leaks was an ancient technique. Now it's just reckless exhibitionism that invites catastrophe. There are smoke generating devices that work better and without risk of causing a dust explosion. They are used for numerous leak detecting tasks. Had I been the music director for the church, that guy would have gotten his butt booted out the door for doing that.
Robb403 Or you just use your ears and hands. A leak that big is going to be obvious.
Sometimes, I'm sure you could. But, old pipe organs have a tremendous number of places they can leak and each leak loses a bit of pressure which reduces the volume of the organ. There are usually multiple leaks because the wood expands and contracts, caulks dry out and come loose and seals dry out. There is a device that is like a squeeze bulb you use to clean your ears. It puffs out a smoke like stream of particles to find small leaks. There are also some electronic devices that lead you to small leaks by the ultrasonic noise they make. Most leaks are plugged during routine maintenance. An organ that hasn't had maintenance for a long time gradually loses it volume and the large pipes just quit working period.
The greatest of all Dutch organists? Piet Kee, now in his 89th year.
Wake up, Netherlands. Here's a rhetorical question; What will happen to all of this magnificent cultural heritage if islam is permitted to gain further footholds in your country?
So many mispronounced words by the narrator! Ouch.
+Urban VIII And "less" organ builders? Try "fewer." Geez.