I think what is particularly amazing about Rachmaninoff’s writing here is that he manages to create such an engaging narrative that still holds to the atmosphere of the original painting. It’s an adaptation of a work as a movie adapts a book. Death rows a white figure to the Isle of the Dead. As the figure approaches the island it becomes clear what the island is. Life is remembered. Love is felt again, as is, beauty, wonder, warmth, cold, hate, and fear. In the devastating climax at 15:15, the figure crosses over and the journey has ended. But we the listener are left behind. We don’t get to glimpse the other side of the island. Instead, we watch as death collects himself and rows back out into the water. Now, I obviously don’t know what Rachmaninoff was thinking when he wrote this. Who knows how many times he even saw the painting? It’s not like he could search it online. (Although, maybe he had a print of it. And I think there are multiple versions of it) But these are just my thoughts on the piece. And as a composer who also adapted a panting to orchestra a few years ago, I have a special interest in this sort of transformation. Thanks for readin’.
Though it's not bad, I would say he is easily surpassed in orchestration skills by many composers, such as, Wagner, Mahler, Richard Strauss, Franz Schreker, Erich Wolfgang Korngold and many, many others.
@@frederickthegreat4801 There's always someone like you to ruin the fun. Since I never said that Rachmaninoff is the best of the best, just that his orchestration is of highest tier, can you tell us, the illiterate, how did you measure exactly the orchestration skills of Wagner, Mahler, Strauss..etc and what technique did you use to compare it against Rachmaninoff? Back to the original topic.... knowing all the repertoire of Mahler, Korngold, etc., I still can't find a piece that possesses such a plethora of feelings in a single bar. Rachmaninoff is the king of making themes from just a few random notes. It's very obvious in his sonatas and is obvious here. Also this piece was heavily used as an inspiration in one of the Harry Potter scores.
@@alanpotter8680 Jesus Christ chill bruh i'm not advocating for the destruction of his legacy, I was just putting him up against some other composers. I didn't measure anything, it's just my opinion that there are better orchestrators and if you like Rachmaninoff, then who cares? That's your opinion.
@@frederickthegreat4801 I don't mind opinions, but it was you who made a statement that this, this this and this composer were better at this than that other composer, not me. I simply noted that I don't like people like you, always trying to insert their opinion masquerading as a fact in every other topic. You continue to ruin the fun, though.
Rakhmaninov at his Best....and the section starting at 11:05 is a Zenith of All Music....Ingenious! Such finely-cut intricately-vivisected harmonies.....
@@joshuasussman8112 -- Apparently, "@alanpotter8680," just below agrees with me. Rakhmaninov's Vocalise and Symphony #2 Adagio are, too, Zeniths. Also the last 4 minutes of Bruckner's 4th. Strange though to get advice from a slacking mediocrity who's clearly in a persistent vegetative state. Cheers from Acapulco!
What exactly is it a zenith of? I can’t imagine the category. It’s not an epoch-making work like Machaut’s Mass, the B minor Mass or Goldberg Variations, Beethoven’s 9th or Late Quartets, Pierrot Lunaire or the Rige of Spring. Even if you were to narrow it down to a micro-niche like the Late Romantic Russian Symphony, Tschaikovsky’s 5th and 6th may nudge it out. So may I ask what this piece (and even more so, the Vocalise) is the zenith of? Even your Bruckner example, which I love, is not the zenith of his own production, which certainly has to be the 8th and 9th, let alone the zenith of symphonic music. Might you have been hyperbolic?
@@joshuasussman4020 -- I misspoke...you're correct. Then again...Who could anticipate a forensic investigation, being grilled in this gentle forum by some reïncarnation of Francisco, Cardinal Jiménez de Cisneros but without the benefit of Pope Sixtus IV's intervention? [You already know that I'm in Acapulco. I'll finish my thought when you divulge your location]
@@joshuasussman4020a bit late, but I think he just means that it’s his favorite musical segment he has listened to yet, along with the adagio and vocalise.
Si il due più tre è il remare poi diventa tre più due e quella è l’onda , è un brano fantastico con una grande orchestrazione suonarlo per me stata una grande emozione 🎻
@@ritapoli4817 Anche in Haendel, ma solo per 20 secondi di musica, c'è un'associazione tra il remare è il metro in 5, in questo caso 3+2. Nell' "Orlando" il protagonista, in preda alla follia, crede di essere salito su una barca e dice "già solco l'onde" in 5/8, una nota per sillaba.
This is Rachmaninov’s Totentanz. A piece based on death, filled with Dies Irae. Although while Totentanz is the Dance of Death, Isle of the Dead is more like the stillness of death.
Wunderschöne Interpretation dieser spätromantischen und ein bisschen bedrohlichen Sinfonischen Dichtung mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der intelligente und erfahrene Dirigent leitet das perfekt trainierte Orchester im veränderlichen Tempo und mit künstlerisch kontrollierter Dynamik. Echt hörenswert!
Such a beautiful, emotional and melancholic piece. Yes it gets loud and intense, but that's just to prepare us for the growth. I'm writing this in the month of Cancer, which is the hottest period of the year. People born in this period are very exentric and passionate about their work. They are not afraid to reveal the hidden truth inside them, they will open their shell for you no matter how rude you are to them. This piece is possibly one of the purest that I know. In the Island of the dead, they rest. They rest because they simply feel good, and don't see it necessary to change anything in the external world. They can sleep when they want, they will work if the world calls. Entering into that island is a very hard journey and shall not be forced, because we are all going into that island at our own pace. Once we fully enter it, what we'll find is that nothing has changed at all, everything is still, even if the process takes lots of turbulence. Let us all embrace our growth, not hide it from the world.
I never knew Rachimaninoff could be this emotional and listenable after mostly ever hearing his dry repetitive meaningless piano concerti - I tell you Russians are meant to compose for the orchestra, leave piano works for the West Europeans
With all due respect, I'm an inkling away from supposing you are a troll. I am most likely biased. But using the words 'repetitive meaningless piano concerti' and 'Rachmaninoff' in the same sentence leaves the author of these words with a lot to answer for.
I think what is particularly amazing about Rachmaninoff’s writing here is that he manages to create such an engaging narrative that still holds to the atmosphere of the original painting. It’s an adaptation of a work as a movie adapts a book.
Death rows a white figure to the Isle of the Dead. As the figure approaches the island it becomes clear what the island is. Life is remembered. Love is felt again, as is, beauty, wonder, warmth, cold, hate, and fear. In the devastating climax at 15:15, the figure crosses over and the journey has ended.
But we the listener are left behind. We don’t get to glimpse the other side of the island. Instead, we watch as death collects himself and rows back out into the water.
Now, I obviously don’t know what Rachmaninoff was thinking when he wrote this. Who knows how many times he even saw the painting? It’s not like he could search it online. (Although, maybe he had a print of it. And I think there are multiple versions of it) But these are just my thoughts on the piece. And as a composer who also adapted a panting to orchestra a few years ago, I have a special interest in this sort of transformation. Thanks for readin’.
This is truly the highest tier of orchestration imaginable. The complexity of emotions swirling around in each and every bar, is remarkable.
Exactly what I was thinking. The texture, density of sound, and sonic effects he creates, you think to yourself - how can you even come up with this?
Though it's not bad, I would say he is easily surpassed in orchestration skills by many composers, such as, Wagner, Mahler, Richard Strauss, Franz Schreker, Erich Wolfgang Korngold and many, many others.
@@frederickthegreat4801 There's always someone like you to ruin the fun. Since I never said that Rachmaninoff is the best of the best, just that his orchestration is of highest tier, can you tell us, the illiterate, how did you measure exactly the orchestration skills of Wagner, Mahler, Strauss..etc and what technique did you use to compare it against Rachmaninoff?
Back to the original topic.... knowing all the repertoire of Mahler, Korngold, etc., I still can't find a piece that possesses such a plethora of feelings in a single bar. Rachmaninoff is the king of making themes from just a few random notes. It's very obvious in his sonatas and is obvious here.
Also this piece was heavily used as an inspiration in one of the Harry Potter scores.
@@alanpotter8680 Jesus Christ chill bruh i'm not advocating for the destruction of his legacy, I was just putting him up against some other composers. I didn't measure anything, it's just my opinion that there are better orchestrators and if you like Rachmaninoff, then who cares? That's your opinion.
@@frederickthegreat4801 I don't mind opinions, but it was you who made a statement that this, this this and this composer were better at this than that other composer, not me. I simply noted that I don't like people like you, always trying to insert their opinion masquerading as a fact in every other topic. You continue to ruin the fun, though.
To use popular vernacular: this piece is a whole mood.
Rakhmaninov at his Best....and the section starting at 11:05 is a Zenith of All Music....Ingenious! Such finely-cut intricately-vivisected harmonies.....
Awesome piece and a great section, but if this is your zenith, you need to get out more.
@@joshuasussman8112 -- Apparently, "@alanpotter8680," just below agrees with me. Rakhmaninov's Vocalise and Symphony #2 Adagio are, too, Zeniths. Also the last 4 minutes of Bruckner's 4th. Strange though to get advice from a slacking mediocrity who's clearly in a persistent vegetative state. Cheers from Acapulco!
What exactly is it a zenith of? I can’t imagine the category. It’s not an epoch-making work like Machaut’s Mass, the B minor Mass or Goldberg Variations, Beethoven’s 9th or Late Quartets, Pierrot Lunaire or the Rige of Spring. Even if you were to narrow it down to a micro-niche like the Late Romantic Russian Symphony, Tschaikovsky’s 5th and 6th may nudge it out.
So may I ask what this piece (and even more so, the Vocalise) is the zenith of?
Even your Bruckner example, which I love, is not the zenith of his own production, which certainly has to be the 8th and 9th, let alone the zenith of symphonic music.
Might you have been hyperbolic?
@@joshuasussman4020 -- I misspoke...you're correct. Then again...Who could anticipate a forensic investigation, being grilled in this gentle forum by some reïncarnation of Francisco, Cardinal Jiménez de Cisneros but without the benefit of Pope Sixtus IV's intervention? [You already know that I'm in Acapulco. I'll finish my thought when you divulge your location]
@@joshuasussman4020a bit late, but I think he just means that it’s his favorite musical segment he has listened to yet, along with the adagio and vocalise.
Remember our promise.
She will never dance with us again...
Wow this is impactful
Perhaps, this is hell.
I wonder whether 5/8 has anything to do with the somewhat asymmetric movement of rowing (the boat in Böcklin's painting).
I think, yes, this is swaying on the waves of the prow [an archaic shallop] of Charon or other carriers of the deceased people.
Si il due più tre è il remare poi diventa tre più due e quella è l’onda , è un brano fantastico con una grande orchestrazione suonarlo per me stata una grande emozione 🎻
@@ritapoli4817 Anche in Haendel, ma solo per 20 secondi di musica, c'è un'associazione tra il remare è il metro in 5, in questo caso 3+2. Nell' "Orlando" il protagonista, in preda alla follia, crede di essere salito su una barca e dice "già solco l'onde" in 5/8, una nota per sillaba.
This has always been one of my favourite pieces and I've never been able to identify why.
Maybe you are the reincarnation of Rachmaninoff ? OMG ! 😱Lol, just kidding. Ha got ya !
@@paulbizard3493 I wish if my compositions where even slightly as moving as his it would be a miracle
@@inanis9801 I'm no musician, but I can understand that music can make someone crazy ! Good luck with your compositions. 👍
Crowley listened to this during his ritual to summon an elemental
Same this piece is a masterpiece
This is Rachmaninov’s Totentanz. A piece based on death, filled with Dies Irae. Although while Totentanz is the Dance of Death, Isle of the Dead is more like the stillness of death.
Quelle partition fabuleuse ! Merci pour le partage.
Rachmaninoff was rather underrated as an orchestral composer.
Since when…
Great Russian music and literature cannot be abolished and banned. This is genius!!!
In a world where Fantasia 2 came out and World war II never happened This would have made for an incredible backdrop for a sequence
Came here coz ( BETWEEN SEASONS ) these pieces such wonderful creation
15:08 most hopeless climax of music history
I make the most hopeless climaxes on my own thank you
Merci pour cette merveilleuse oeuvre aussi belle que envoûtante...
6:59 celli 🔥🔥🔥
Wunderschöne Interpretation dieser spätromantischen und ein bisschen bedrohlichen Sinfonischen Dichtung mit gut vereinigten und perfekt entsprechenden Tönen aller Instrumente. Der intelligente und erfahrene Dirigent leitet das perfekt trainierte Orchester im veränderlichen Tempo und mit künstlerisch kontrollierter Dynamik. Echt hörenswert!
Perfect intro to Behemoth's next concert. Wondrous
Such a beautiful, emotional and melancholic piece. Yes it gets loud and intense, but that's just to prepare us for the growth. I'm writing this in the month of Cancer, which is the hottest period of the year. People born in this period are very exentric and passionate about their work. They are not afraid to reveal the hidden truth inside them, they will open their shell for you no matter how rude you are to them.
This piece is possibly one of the purest that I know.
In the Island of the dead, they rest. They rest because they simply feel good, and don't see it necessary to change anything in the external world. They can sleep when they want, they will work if the world calls. Entering into that island is a very hard journey and shall not be forced, because we are all going into that island at our own pace. Once we fully enter it, what we'll find is that nothing has changed at all, everything is still, even if the process takes lots of turbulence.
Let us all embrace our growth, not hide it from the world.
So THAT'S where I heard this... It's been a long time!
Thanks for uploading full score.
I’m guessing this is the recording with
Conductor: Vladimir Ashkenazy
Orchestra: Concertgebouworkest
8:20
Fabuloso,um mangá me trouxe aqui kkk
One of the greatest orchestral works ❤
I made a promise.
I've tried to teach Elster how to dance. It's so cute how clumsy she can be when it comes to these things.
@@dsch0Elster is underrated
Long live Sergie Rachmaninoff
Yea
I have bad news for you
thank you
Danke
Gorgeous quintuple meter
Prince rostislav is so much more sophisticated, but, I need to have a couple more listens to this
lo amee
9:09
9:01
Gushing late Romanticism
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Moore Sarah Taylor Thomas Johnson Melissa
мое любимое произведение - ГОВНО ПРО ЛЕСБУХ
Это звучит очень необычно.
I never knew Rachimaninoff could be this emotional and listenable after mostly ever hearing his dry repetitive meaningless piano concerti - I tell you Russians are meant to compose for the orchestra, leave piano works for the West Europeans
Er, Scriabin?
Quite the controversial take on his piano concerti..
With all due respect, I'm an inkling away from supposing you are a troll. I am most likely biased. But using the words 'repetitive meaningless piano concerti' and 'Rachmaninoff' in the same sentence leaves the author of these words with a lot to answer for.
@@sandryushka Well, if you think about it, how often are the 1st and 4th performed?
I don t like the 4th concerto me too, but the first it s great