John's way of thinking is a blessing for all lifters getting older. He also advises warming up your triceps before moving to overhead tricep moves, good advice for aging elbows.
@@drexalte69 I mean cardio before to warm the body then tricep rope To regular is what I do . Just start light and do what feels Good like 20 reps on the rope at first then less when you do more weight . Progress to normal bar once you fail on rope . If you fatigue too much tho it will effect everything after
@@eastwood111 With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this are merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and religion!
I usually do squats and then RDL. I wonder if changing the order would help. Of course, the psychology of squatting later in the workout is another factor. 😬
Listen to this and save yourselves a frustrating battle with constant knee pain. Speaking from experience implementing this advice completely changed how I feel about hard lower body days
@@nick5106 i like doing a hamstring exercise, a quad exercise, then a hamstring exercise, then a quad exercise, then calfs. It gives more time for the muscles to rest. Feels good too. Usually do ham curls with a 4x10-12 focus, then leg press with a 3x10-12 focus, then rdls 3x10-12, then leg extensions 3x10-12, then 4 sets of calfs 12-15. ❤
100 percent. I've always hated doing legs until I started doing hamstrings first. All of a sudden everything else felt way better to do and now I can do a kickass leg workout every time
The same applies to light abductor/adductor work pre-squats. In terms of leg curls, I do this especially on days when sciatica is acting up. It helps pre fatigue the hams so they arent as active during squats, which helps with sciatica.
As time goes on my knees just arent as good as they used to be but doing Hamstrings first really does help on leg day. Wish I knew this when I first started.
50 next week, 6 years ago wore braces on both knees. Did a lot to adjust my posture, including starting with my hamstrings first. Haven't worn braces in 5 years
This is one of my favorite things I learned from John! This makes my knees feel so much better (and ‘smoother’?) when ai go into squats or leg press. It just FEELS better.
Always followed the hams before quads, triceps before biceps and never had any pain - learned to listened from John’s experience, and I always pass that piece of info on to others
This is actually the best advice and everyone should follow it. I had issues in my back while doing leg presses because i wasnt training my glutes and hams properly and not warming them up before I went for heavier exercises like barbell squats leg presses hack squat. I started doing leg curls and rdls first to activate my hams and then went for squats it was so much better and it even relieved my pain from leg presses. Try it.
Focusing more on my hamstrings after treating them like an afterthought for years is one of the best workout decisions i have made in awhile. My lower body feels more complete now.
I agree with this. I used to always do what he says: do leg biceps second or even third, and in either case, I'd be tired by the time I got to then. I would recommend changing all the parameters of your workout--order of body part, order of load (heavy first vs heavy last), etc--and try that for a few weeks. Try different things and learn. You will likely find out information about the right way for you to workout that you would otherwise never know. And, also, you might find ways to make your workouts more satisfying and effective.
Before doing leg curls do concentric nordics, that shit will do the Work that you need for your hamstrings and will be your best friend for preventing knee injury.
4 sets leg curls 4 sets leg extensions 5 sets of barbell squats and 5 sets leg press then back to 3 sets of leg curls then 3 sets of leg extensions then 4 sets calves
U do not need that much volume bro, how do you expect to go hard? 3 sets of squats/leg press + 3 sets of RDLs + 4/5 sets of calf raises is enough to grow your legs, and if you really want to do more then you can add leg extensions and curls 2/3 sets each.
such good stuff! I always do leg curls at the beginning of my leg days before I do hack squat & bb squat! it's def helped my hamstrings grow more the past yr & a half
Rate my workout 3x10 Bulgarian split squats 3x10 squats 3x10 hack squat 3x10 hamstring curl 3x10 leg extension 3x20 donkey calf raise 3x20 hanging leg raise 3x20 ab wheel 3x20 side crunches on a bench
Another thing I implemented into my workouts and my squats felt so much better. My hamstrings are LACKING! Bad. And it's because of the whole afterthought. So I'm focusing a lot of my attention to hamstring work now and I feel so much better about my workout.
Might be somewhat do to your hamstrings being a higher rate of fast twitch than your quads. Certain muscles generally respond better to higher or lower reps or overall work load. So hamstrings is just one that can’t take a lot of volume so get your work in with it sooner
Literally THE BEST ADVICE EVER. If you want stronger knees, guess what? Hamstrings. Stronger hips? Hamstrings. I'd go as far as to include calfs as well but hamstrings are the GOAT
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John's way of thinking is a blessing for all lifters getting older. He also advises warming up your triceps before moving to overhead tricep moves, good advice for aging elbows.
You figure this shit out when shit starts to hurt he definitely saves new people time.
How do you warm up triceps? Will doing regular pushdowns do it or anything in particular you mean?
@@drexalte69 I mean cardio before to warm the body then tricep rope
To regular is what I do . Just start light and do what feels
Good like 20 reps on the rope at first then less when you do more weight . Progress to normal bar once you fail on rope . If you fatigue too much tho it will effect everything after
@@drexalte69 ye he just meant doing regular pushdowns before doing overhead tricep work. Since overhead places more stress on the elbow
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@@eastwood111 cool
This comment is good
@@eastwood111 With so many different religions all believing by faith in a God or Gods that they all think is/are real, yet teaching different doctrines at the same time, the question then begs, "What can anybody not believe by faith, and does this belief make anything true". This, l'd really love to know. In the absence of evidence truth is uncertain. Therefore, judgement or any decision making must be suspended. For this is the most honest thing a person can ever do. Anything more than this are merely presumptuous speculations that the religious world call faith. No wonder knowledge is the greatest enermy of faith and religion!
@@mariobethell3731 You've put that wonderfully well. I'm with you 100% .
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Those qualities are what stuck out to me when I watched a couple of his videos. Short and sweet and very valuable info.
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Can confirm. Lengthening the hammies through leg curls or even RDLs helps reduce knee pain/stiffness
leg curls will make them shorter, not longer
@@LMR72 not if you’re doing a slow eccentric
I usually do squats and then RDL. I wonder if changing the order would help. Of course, the psychology of squatting later in the workout is another factor. 😬
What is RDL
@@steelmongoose4956 for me definitely, I do RDLs before squats and the squat just feels silky smooth
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Game changing advice, never went back, miss this guy 😢
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Did this today not having seen this and he is speaking factssss 👍🏼
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I found this out through trialling different things and been doing it religiously for years. Cannot agree more with John. R I P !
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Jay Cutler has said the same. If two legends agree on it, I'll listen.
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Listen to this and save yourselves a frustrating battle with constant knee pain. Speaking from experience implementing this advice completely changed how I feel about hard lower body days
My hams are destroyed rn. Thanks John 🙏🏼
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but how
@@dudejoe8390 I did hamstrings first. That’s how
@@dudejoe8390 8-12 sets of hamstrings first then 8-12 on quads. Comes out to 16-24 sets per week
@@nick5106 i like doing a hamstring exercise, a quad exercise, then a hamstring exercise, then a quad exercise, then calfs. It gives more time for the muscles to rest. Feels good too. Usually do ham curls with a 4x10-12 focus, then leg press with a 3x10-12 focus, then rdls 3x10-12, then leg extensions 3x10-12, then 4 sets of calfs 12-15. ❤
That makes a ton of sense. Getting your hammies pumped probably provides better stability during squats. Good stuff.
He's definitely right about it feeling better....
I tore my hamstring in May last year and it didn’t heal until Halloween and surprisingly exercise is what healed it.
100 percent. I've always hated doing legs until I started doing hamstrings first. All of a sudden everything else felt way better to do and now I can do a kickass leg workout every time
We miss you big guy
The same applies to light abductor/adductor work pre-squats.
In terms of leg curls, I do this especially on days when sciatica is acting up. It helps pre fatigue the hams so they arent as active during squats, which helps with sciatica.
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Great advice John thanks, it really works!
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Makes perfect sense. Thank you
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Been doing this since he made suggestion ages ago. Thanks for the gems Mr Meadows
Still doing this from the day I learned it from John. MIss you sir
As time goes on my knees just arent as good as they used to be but doing Hamstrings first really does help on leg day. Wish I knew this when I first started.
50 next week, 6 years ago wore braces on both knees. Did a lot to adjust my posture, including starting with my hamstrings first. Haven't worn braces in 5 years
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This is one of my favorite things I learned from John! This makes my knees feel so much better (and ‘smoother’?) when ai go into squats or leg press. It just FEELS better.
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Coming off leg day today I will def try in a few days.
RIP my friend. Thanks for the advice
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This guy was and is a national treasure. I'm going to try this.
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Always followed the hams before quads, triceps before biceps and never had any pain - learned to listened from John’s experience, and I always pass that piece of info on to others
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This is actually the best advice and everyone should follow it.
I had issues in my back while doing leg presses because i wasnt training my glutes and hams properly and not warming them up before I went for heavier exercises like barbell squats leg presses hack squat.
I started doing leg curls and rdls first to activate my hams and then went for squats it was so much better and it even relieved my pain from leg presses.
Try it.
Best advice. Haven't had sore knees in a long time.
Focusing more on my hamstrings after treating them like an afterthought for years is one of the best workout decisions i have made in awhile. My lower body feels more complete now.
Yo!!! This guy has passed on and is still dropping straight dimes. I just tried this and it was amazing.
RIP John true legend
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I agree with this. I used to always do what he says: do leg biceps second or even third, and in either case, I'd be tired by the time I got to then. I would recommend changing all the parameters of your workout--order of body part, order of load (heavy first vs heavy last), etc--and try that for a few weeks. Try different things and learn. You will likely find out information about the right way for you to workout that you would otherwise never know. And, also, you might find ways to make your workouts more satisfying and effective.
Trying this tomorrow morning!!!
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Before doing leg curls do concentric nordics, that shit will do the Work that you need for your hamstrings and will be your best friend for preventing knee injury.
4 sets leg curls 4 sets leg extensions 5 sets of barbell squats and 5 sets leg press then back to 3 sets of leg curls then 3 sets of leg extensions then 4 sets calves
Sounds like my sort of leg session
Congratulations, you're overtraining
U do not need that much volume bro, how do you expect to go hard? 3 sets of squats/leg press + 3 sets of RDLs + 4/5 sets of calf raises is enough to grow your legs, and if you really want to do more then you can add leg extensions and curls 2/3 sets each.
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Jon has the best practical advice. Ill shift to this with reverse Nordic Curls before doing my Alternating Walking Lunges workouts...
Same thing with arms, biceps first and your elbows feel so much better
I’m not religious, but I hope John knows he’s still helping us all and that he’s missed.
such good stuff! I always do leg curls at the beginning of my leg days before I do hack squat & bb squat! it's def helped my hamstrings grow more the past yr & a half
Great warm up for the knees!
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Tried that and IT WORKED, I mean anything ANYTHING our beloved John 🕊️ is going to work
I think thats very true, doing hamstrings is a very good warm up
RIP John!
Rate my workout
3x10 Bulgarian split squats
3x10 squats
3x10 hack squat
3x10 hamstring curl
3x10 leg extension
3x20 donkey calf raise
3x20 hanging leg raise
3x20 ab wheel
3x20 side crunches on a bench
I tried this last time, it worked so well and helped me with my squat..Rip John 🕊️🙏
Always found this - squatting at the end of my hamstring workout always feels amazing AF
Thank you
So sad he died he was so great for the community
Thanks man I’m gonna take this advice
Another thing I implemented into my workouts and my squats felt so much better. My hamstrings are LACKING! Bad. And it's because of the whole afterthought. So I'm focusing a lot of my attention to hamstring work now and I feel so much better about my workout.
John you are missed
Might be somewhat do to your hamstrings being a higher rate of fast twitch than your quads. Certain muscles generally respond better to higher or lower reps or overall work load. So hamstrings is just one that can’t take a lot of volume so get your work in with it sooner
Literally THE BEST ADVICE EVER. If you want stronger knees, guess what? Hamstrings. Stronger hips? Hamstrings. I'd go as far as to include calfs as well but hamstrings are the GOAT