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  • @sprytnychomik
    @sprytnychomik ปีที่แล้ว +7116

    At least WinRAR license is not required.

    • @yabgu79
      @yabgu79 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      but it is a highly plus

    • @Toni7926
      @Toni7926 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      Noone has one, but we all think it's easy to get.
      However the registration button/form might not even work. Noone has ever tested it.

    • @muthukamalan.m6316
      @muthukamalan.m6316 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      they might use Linux 😂

    • @recklessroges
      @recklessroges ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Because 7zip exists. (The Linux of file compression ;-) /jk

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@recklessroges ironic considering xz and gzip

  • @Finkelfunk
    @Finkelfunk ปีที่แล้ว +9844

    Reminds me of a tweet by the developer of FastAPI:
    "I saw a job post the other day. It required 4+ years of experience in FastAPI.
    I couldn't apply since it's only been 1.5 years since I created that thing."

    • @sadaakisz
      @sadaakisz ปีที่แล้ว +1371

      just shows how disconnected is hr with tech requirements

    • @vectoralphaAI
      @vectoralphaAI ปีที่แล้ว +1114

      @@sadaakisz HR in Tech is so horribly broken it should be illegal. A lot if not all of the problems with hiring devs in the tech industry would be solved if HR was competent in what is realistic for devs to know.

    • @guyonlead
      @guyonlead ปีที่แล้ว +63

      This needs more likes

    • @Finkelfunk
      @Finkelfunk ปีที่แล้ว +533

      @@sadaakisz There is still this absolutely stupid sentiment that "bigger number make programmer go brrrr". In reality the years of experience you have on your job doesn't say jackshit about how competent of a developer you are. I've met people while studying CS that have never worked in IT but have just been hacking away for 15 years privately. Those people are able to come up with complex hashmap algorithms in less than 20 minutes. Meanwhile I've seen other people who've actually worked in programming environments struggle to find their C: drive on their computer.
      People seriously need to reevaluate how they go about finding good devs. Posing the 6713th question about a "good sorting algorithm" is definitely not how to go about it.

    • @Finkelfunk
      @Finkelfunk ปีที่แล้ว +146

      @@guyonlead Not even joking by the way: That tweet still exists and I'd link it if TH-cam would let me.

  • @kehan6252
    @kehan6252 ปีที่แล้ว +4477

    By "entry-level" they don't mean "entry-level experience", they probably mean "entry-level salary"

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว +123

      Bingo!

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e ปีที่แล้ว +111

      They always do...

    • @doublepinger
      @doublepinger ปีที่แล้ว +106

      I've explicitly been told "entry to the company". Thus, they can require a MS / Doctorate for minimum wage, because aren't you so glad you get to join??

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e ปีที่แล้ว +100

      @@doublepinger If the company's entry-level position has high requirements such as multiple years of experience, they shouldn't advertise as entry-level. People with those requirements aren't going to bother to look at a job labelled that way.

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว +32

      @@doublepinger What @Traveller said. Also, academics tend to have very low salary expectations, limited private sector work exp, and a massive, looming student debt load. Companies - and universities! - that hire academics for their expertise know all this, and basically see them as a prime target for exploitation.

  • @joe95ec
    @joe95ec ปีที่แล้ว +4643

    "They're looking for a whole startup" best description ever for this kind of requirements.

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว +226

      "Junior full-stack DevOps" = be our entire IT dept, sysadmin, and development team, for little to no-pay. I tell juniors to avoid that crap - sure you'll learn things, you'll learn how to be overworked and make some other guy rich.

    • @adamkuti5796
      @adamkuti5796 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      *for a whole IT department

    • @ZephrymWOW
      @ZephrymWOW ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@mandisaw avoiding it is not gonna get you anywhere lmao. just don't stay too long. I started out at 15/hr got overworked then moved to a 75/hr contract to hire position in 2 years because I went through hell to get there. Or you can just do nothing and be lazy then bitch about never being able to get a sr position

    • @stt.9433
      @stt.9433 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      @@mandisaw I just did an internship and there was a basically one guy running the entire IT department. Man was making 30k a year with 6 years of experience in that company. He was the entirety of IT, but also had to dev the entire iot services and a website to access those services.
      He's leaving next month gonna get 40k.

    • @MrStrangeUsername
      @MrStrangeUsername ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@stt.9433 I really hope that's not in the US because 40K is still not much at all for that level of skill and experience.

  • @benderbg
    @benderbg ปีที่แล้ว +2436

    I need to inform you that by the time you watched this video 3 new JS frameworks and 6 libraries emerged and are now required skills in your portfolio.

    • @whyyes6554
      @whyyes6554 ปีที่แล้ว +73

      It's been 4 days since this comment, god knows how many JS FRAMEWORKS have went in and out of fashion in that time

    • @clamum9648
      @clamum9648 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      LOL brill

    • @leagueoflags
      @leagueoflags ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Maybe we should write a new JS framework that keeps track of other JS frameworks....

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Don't forget the new devops cloud platform released by Ford thats the best thing ever... it came out last week and if you don't know it back to front, you're a total l0ser

    • @LukeVilent
      @LukeVilent 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Been 6 months since this comment, so at least 10 years of experience in them are now strictly required.

  • @KilgoreTroutAsf
    @KilgoreTroutAsf ปีที่แล้ว +3975

    You know the company has a solid engineering team when its stack is built on 20+ different technologies.

    • @UwOtt
      @UwOtt ปีที่แล้ว +570

      Meanwhile the team:
      **one person**

    • @sidneymonteiro3670
      @sidneymonteiro3670 ปีที่แล้ว +311

      Different AND incompatible!

    • @afelias
      @afelias ปีที่แล้ว +117

      The engineers are great!
      The CTO is a nightmare.

    • @themasterrogerdelgado
      @themasterrogerdelgado ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That's bad management right there. Let programmers do what they want and you end up with a dozen languages to support.

    • @kxmode
      @kxmode ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Bleeding Edge... and by bleeding edge, I mean along the forehead.

  • @chunye215
    @chunye215 ปีที่แล้ว +1997

    Junior Developer... "15 years of experience..." That pretty much nails it.

    • @brendan8915
      @brendan8915 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      I am confidently on track to have 15 years of experience as a junior developer.

    • @gerardomartinez3920
      @gerardomartinez3920 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I am sorry for your lost

    • @BillClinton228
      @BillClinton228 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Must have a CS Degree and have atleast 3 years experience in every JS library ever released... salary based on experience starting from $30 000. WE have a comprehensive interview process with 8 steps, bring your own laptop and be prepared for us to waste your time just so we can tell you that you didnt make it to the final round of interviews.

    • @buschwichtel
      @buschwichtel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@brendan8915 You're being exploited then lol you are definitely not at a junior level at that point and should get paid accordingly

    • @brendan8915
      @brendan8915 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@buschwichtel Bro believe me, I know. Actually have a new job interview tomorrow.

  • @pornstache1456
    @pornstache1456 ปีที่แล้ว +1634

    "This is an entry level position"
    *requires a bachelors degree and 2 to 5 years experience*

    • @sixstanger00
      @sixstanger00 ปีที่แล้ว +226

      *masters in computer engineering is a bonus

    • @hughle9617
      @hughle9617 ปีที่แล้ว +221

      *also please attach a link of your most recent Ted Talk video, and guest speaking speech at Harvard. Also be willing to work flexible schedule possibly weekend, $18/hr pay plus benefits*

    • @TheMADmk
      @TheMADmk ปีที่แล้ว +110

      @@hughle9617 Also were short on cash this month so could you loan us 50 grand, and the building maintenance team hasn't been hired yet so also knowledge of basic plumbing and woodwork a must have.

    • @ItsJustEthan1
      @ItsJustEthan1 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      I saw a job post like this but they also said "internship experience does not count" or something along those lines.

    • @hughle9617
      @hughle9617 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@ItsJustEthan1 remember 2021, an every single company started hiring just about anybody with a beating heart. I feel like we should go on strike in all industry like shut down economy like 2020 for employees to be valued again.

  • @nickchapsas
    @nickchapsas ปีที่แล้ว +2694

    "5+ Years experience in an Azure environment...OK person must be dead inside" HAHAHAHA

    • @MethodMain
      @MethodMain ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🤣🤣🤣

    • @r45661
      @r45661 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      lmao

    • @forsakensandor
      @forsakensandor ปีที่แล้ว +104

      I heard Agile? lol

    • @ronsijm
      @ronsijm ปีที่แล้ว +193

      Seems reasonable. I have 5+ Years experience in an Azure environment; I started setting up my Azure Devops environment about 5 years ago, and it's almost kinda functional. Next 5 years I plan to chat with the Microsoft licensing consultants to see if either of us can figure out how I should pay

    • @shamaldesilva9533
      @shamaldesilva9533 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂

  • @ronondex6
    @ronondex6 ปีที่แล้ว +1367

    "They are lookign for a whole startup" way to many job requirements in a nutshell.

    • @seanburke424
      @seanburke424 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep - you'll be the only engineer in the entire company. Probably the janitor, too.

  • @mauricio-poppe
    @mauricio-poppe ปีที่แล้ว +1065

    I lost it at “vanilla JavaScript, chocolate JavaScript” 😂😂😂😂😂 🍫🍫

    • @marcw6875
      @marcw6875 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      Neapolitan JavaScript...

    • @kafkaesque6459
      @kafkaesque6459 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sort of like Doom ports!

    • @peterwendy9127
      @peterwendy9127 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      "whateverJS" - my boi Jack Borrough.

    • @Hexanitrobenzene
      @Hexanitrobenzene ปีที่แล้ว +4

      At this point, JavaScript comes in any flavour you would ever need...

    • @dontforgettonerfthepig3322
      @dontforgettonerfthepig3322 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "С sharp, C sharper"

  • @microcolonel
    @microcolonel ปีที่แล้ว +525

    Trust me, even if you *meet or exceed all of the listed requirements* they won't even email you to reject you.

    • @mynechan
      @mynechan ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Because you are over-qualified then

    • @SonsyRock
      @SonsyRock ปีที่แล้ว +57

      @@mynechan No, because nobody care. They just want to pay nothing for a high skill person.

    • @Angry-Lynx
      @Angry-Lynx 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes this whole indurstry is fucked in the head. The level of arrogance from corporate is out of thjs world

  • @CrizzyEyes
    @CrizzyEyes ปีที่แล้ว +332

    "You have 15 years of experience in HTML and CSS? You're hired!"
    "Thanks! Great to be on board."
    "You'll be a great help with our new website written in HTML5"
    "Huh? There's a 5th one? I never had to use that 15 years ago!"

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      15 years ago people were still seriously using Internet Explorer

    • @kukuc96
      @kukuc96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Boy do I have news for you. HTML5 is 16 years old.

  • @lloydatkinson8030
    @lloydatkinson8030 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    "time-pressed toxic agile environment", is there any other type of agile environment?

  • @ericmyrs
    @ericmyrs ปีที่แล้ว +514

    The reason they're asking for Swift twice, is that they require both the programming language and experience with the SWIFT financial services network.

    • @sidneymonteiro3670
      @sidneymonteiro3670 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah but there is more.. S.W.I.F.T. was also an internal Wank of America methodology!

    • @WillStrong7
      @WillStrong7 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      But you must be from Belarus or Russia

    • @michaelvanstraten4390
      @michaelvanstraten4390 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The is also swift the storage spec.

    • @Tythecodeguy
      @Tythecodeguy ปีที่แล้ว +11

      You also have to be a previous semi truck driver for swift transportation aswell

    • @panda4247
      @panda4247 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      and a mechanic for their Suzuki fleet of company vehicles.

  • @fleity
    @fleity ปีที่แล้ว +366

    Again the fact that none of these seem unrealistic is hilarious and soul crushing at the same time.

    • @0biwan7
      @0biwan7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      add one more year to everything and set this up

  • @GSBarlev
    @GSBarlev ปีที่แล้ว +699

    With how unrealistic these job postings have gotten, the real best way to get a job in the industry is to already have one and get the attention of a recruiter or a head-hunter.
    I'm a data scientist. I became a data scientist after reading an article about how it was the "hot new career" and going to my very first boss and asking him if I could change my title.
    Me: "Do you care if I start calling myself a data scientist?"
    Him: "Do I have to pay you anything mkre?"
    Me: "Nope!"
    Him: "Go for it."
    Ten years and a job change (that I was recruited for) later and I'm a senior data scientist with ten years of experience. 🤷‍♂️

    • @incremental_failure
      @incremental_failure ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Now that the genie is out of the bottle, everyone is a 10+ year data scientist.

    • @thzzzt
      @thzzzt ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Do you get to wear a white lab coat?

    • @frds_skce
      @frds_skce ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@thzzzt you don't have to wear lab coat to be a data scientist...
      Even as a joke, that's a bad one you spouted there.

    • @GSBarlev
      @GSBarlev ปีที่แล้ว +108

      @@thzzzt Well my company is pretty relaxed about work from home, so I can wear whatever I want.
      But no, as someone who mines and cleans data for a living, I'm usually wearing a hard hat with a flashlight and thick gloves.

    • @Hebruwu
      @Hebruwu ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@GSBarlev safety first!

  • @JanMichalSzulew
    @JanMichalSzulew ปีที่แล้ว +159

    "creativity, 6 years Azure experience, creativity" - well edited :)))

  • @daedalusdefiant9770
    @daedalusdefiant9770 ปีที่แล้ว +686

    the delivery is so good. this man could probably just say arbitrary buzzwords and i'd still find it hilarious.

    • @trevortiernan8510
      @trevortiernan8510 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Especially if he says “arbitrary buzzwords” 😂

    • @YuriG03042
      @YuriG03042 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      he literally did: 1:48

    • @Bonemannes
      @Bonemannes ปีที่แล้ว +13

      He literally pulled out "Fortnite" as a requirement

    • @taramaforhaikido7272
      @taramaforhaikido7272 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Bonemannes It wasn't. he misread it then corrected himself. He thought it was at first.

    • @Bonemannes
      @Bonemannes ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@taramaforhaikido7272 I wouldn't be surprised tbh, last time I checked some Unis still put Fortran 66 as part of their program.
      Shit knows why should I learn a punched cards old ass programming language but whatever

  • @emilfilipov169
    @emilfilipov169 ปีที่แล้ว +411

    I'm a data scientist by profession. Or at least I was. I started working in the field 6 years ago when requirements for DS positions were sane.
    Now it's like:
    - Extensive Experience with Python and one or more low level languages - how do they check that experience? you live code an arbitrarily stupid algorithm which nobody ever uses for absolutely nothing except writing scientific papers.
    - Extensive Experience with SQL AND DB administration (but it has to be the exact one they use, or you are out)
    - Extensive Experience with GCP, Azure or AWS (but when it comes down to it, they will reject you for not having used the platform they work on)
    - Extensive Experience with Kubernetes, Docker - launching, configuring and administering and troubleshooting instances
    - Extensive Experience with CI/CD with 'X'
    - Extensive Experience with Tableau
    - Experience with classical Machine Learning and Deep Learning frameworks nobody except Fortune 100 companies have the money to afford to use (btw, classical ML doesn't matter to the company as they do everything with neural networks, but they will ask you questions about everything else that they don't use)
    - Experience with Reinforcement Learning
    - Extensive Experience with Kafka, Hadoop, Spark (also list all other Apache products)
    EDIT... I forgot JIRA and microservices!!!
    - Experience using FastAPI
    - Experience with Git, JIRA and all the other arbitrarily useful software. (git is awesome)
    Bonus points for:
    - JS (any of the 75,000)
    - Experience with mentoring and leading a team (even though this is a junior position)
    AND BY THE WAY... when you get to the technical interview, get ready for some dumb**s questions that have nothing to do with the job described or the requirements.
    The labour market is so f**king stupid right now...

    • @LogicPhilosophy
      @LogicPhilosophy ปีที่แล้ว +31

      lol... "extensive experience" on all of those! 🤣

    • @_nimrod92
      @_nimrod92 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      totally agree it's so pathetically bad that I started pondering on the idea if it's just best to start working on my own software products that I could potentially bring to market instead.

    • @emilfilipov169
      @emilfilipov169 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@LogicPhilosophy Most of the job ads i see even for junior developers (which are supposed to be no experience positions, and i don't really count coding exercises in university as 'experience') i see 'extensive experience' with x,y,z which is insane.

    • @phonyhealthinspector
      @phonyhealthinspector ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just graduated with a BA in Graphic Design/front-end development.
      Data Visualization sounds like my area. I suck at math but I'm actively learning SQL and PHP.
      Maybe my hopes and dreams are gone.

    • @AndyWallWasWeak
      @AndyWallWasWeak ปีที่แล้ว

      it's not really a market when dumb businesses with all the money can hire PhDs burdened with student debt, East Europeans fleeing war, Asian students who want and would even pay to stay in the country. market implies choice, this is just serving (often incompetent) masters who would have gladly not paid anyone at all, but have devs running away from them and internal IT house of cards collapsing under its own weight with tech/software ever more quickly becoming obsolete, etc.
      wonder how history books would reflect on these dark ages. so much art and discovery delayed in this political ratrace

  • @julianosvonskingrad7009
    @julianosvonskingrad7009 ปีที่แล้ว +302

    I am a scientist who started programming years ago. I sent my CV to a company that was looking for a) scientists with b) no experience in programming to train them. I thought "Hey, easy, I am a scientist BUT I already have knowledge in this field. They'll take me instantly!" Yeah well ... they asked me 200 high-end questions about programming languages I haven't even used at that time. They told me weeks later they are not interested. I wonder how they ever managed to find employees.

    • @markgreen2170
      @markgreen2170 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      I remember seeing job advertisements requiring 5 years of java ...java was only one year old at the time, lol

    • @kevinmclarkey621
      @kevinmclarkey621 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The trick is not hiring anybody at all. Instead they can say "they tried" and hire somebody overseas for dirt cheap and abuse them to hell because of the threat of deportation....

    • @julianosvonskingrad7009
      @julianosvonskingrad7009 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@markgreen2170: Java Version 1? From 1996? :D

    • @robeardear
      @robeardear 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They don’t “find” employees. They put up a bogus listing, interview and then reject anyone who applies before going to the government to claim the talent they need doesn’t exist state-side. They get a grant for a visa, hire someone from India or Pakistan fresh out of university, hold onto their passport and then pay them less than minimum wage. Under threat of deportation, their new “employee” can’t quit, complain, or ask for a raise. As soon as they stop being useful-they’re gone. And they find someone else desperate enough to take them up on the offer.
      This isn’t just happening in web development or just in the US, this is an ongoing crisis of corporations addicted to cheap labor who hold no obligation to the societies in which they operate. This isn’t some anti-globalism dog whistle either, they’re treating good people trying to make better lives for themselves like slaves for their bottom line and the government is just letting them do it. It’s genuinely disgusting.

    • @chrisdonnell7200
      @chrisdonnell7200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      3 months later they'll either remove the posting because they never hired anyone, or finally lower the requirements and get a significantly worse candidate

  • @spazmaster6731
    @spazmaster6731 ปีที่แล้ว +680

    I remember a job I saw online that required 10+ years of C++, AI, and javascript.
    Buddy, this is a junior firmware engineer job for embedded systems.

    • @majormoody
      @majormoody ปีที่แล้ว +69

      AI full stack 😂

    • @keshi5541
      @keshi5541 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@majormoody and junior at that. That is actually crazy.

    • @pressatoanime2440
      @pressatoanime2440 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Not as bad as the listing that wanted 7 years swift experience... 3 years after swift was released

    • @kxmode
      @kxmode ปีที่แล้ว +8

      How can someone have 10+ years of experience in AI that's only recently become available?

    • @keshi5541
      @keshi5541 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kxmode they need to be far into the future enough that time travel is possible, need to have 10 years in experience in AI, then go back in time for some reason to apply for that specific job.
      Idk.

  • @ethanharmon1228
    @ethanharmon1228 ปีที่แล้ว +764

    as someone who has sent in 30+ applications in the past month and only gotten 1 phone call (only because I have a former boss at that company and he recommended me), this is incredibly painful and accurate.

    • @dorianurem6203
      @dorianurem6203 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      I see that a lot of people are doing hundreds monthly

    • @griffin3706
      @griffin3706 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Try 30+ a day. That’s what I’m doing

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@griffin3706 i call bs on that, there is no way youre finding 900+ job offers a month unless you repeatedly apply for the same one at the same company

    • @griffin3706
      @griffin3706 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash I’m applying to 30 a day. Gotten 5 replies so far

    • @TheMADmk
      @TheMADmk ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash Yh also unless its the exact same job every single time, at the same company your going to have to edit and tailor your application every time.

  • @HenryBloggit
    @HenryBloggit ปีที่แล้ว +174

    “You must know every programming language and framework in existence in order to build our web app. Oh and machine learning too just because.”

    • @imjustadev
      @imjustadev ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ....just because it exists

    • @TimoRutanen
      @TimoRutanen 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Machine learning is because you need to teach the machine how to develop their next web app so that they don't need to hire someone anymore.

  • @ErikUden
    @ErikUden ปีที่แล้ว +177

    “entry level position”
    *requires 15 years of experience*

    • @rafael502
      @rafael502 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Or the opposite:
      "Senior Programming level position"
      "Salary: 45k /yr"

  • @_DRMR_
    @_DRMR_ ปีที่แล้ว +98

    `Non-enthusiastic tech job seeker @ unemployed` is literally my current title.

    • @dougjennings
      @dougjennings ปีที่แล้ว +4

      same

    • @lawrencemanning
      @lawrencemanning ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Switch careers. It can be done.

    • @counterleo
      @counterleo ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@lawrencemanning I am literally switching carreers training to become a chartered accountant after a Masters in comp sci and being a web dev and sysadm for a few years. That's right, got bored of IT so switching to accounting. Either something is very wrong with IT, or something is very wrong with me. Potentially both.

    • @spaghettiunit
      @spaghettiunit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@counterleo tired of people, eh?

    • @ellielikesmath
      @ellielikesmath ปีที่แล้ว +1

      is there a way to answer that question that would imply there's something better than people out there, somewhere? like people 2.0? please?

  • @mariotabali2603
    @mariotabali2603 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    My experience is that when position requirements grow ridiculously, it correlates highly with shitty jobs. That's because they need someone to do everything cause they already suck at most technologies, their leadership is clueless hence they use bits of every technology and talk down to techies in general cause they think they are easy to replace.

    • @stt.9433
      @stt.9433 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Exactly they have technologically illiterate management and want some desperate idiot to plead to their cause for a measly wage. If they're recrutement process isn't serious, then it's a major red flag.
      I always wondered if a company has these listings because : 1. makes the company look more healthy but they don't actually have the resources to hire 2.Might benefit them in terms of taxes and 3.HR wants to look like they're doing their job.

    • @--ACCEPT--
      @--ACCEPT-- 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Or they already lost most of their IT staff due to low pay and a toxic work environment and hiring one sucker who does the work of a whole team for the two thirds the salary of a normal developer looks good on paper and therefore MUST be a sane and realistic business descision.

    • @karmatraining
      @karmatraining 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Or they're just trying to get a bargain. They want you to do the work of the 8 people they let go a few months ago and now nobody knows how to reset the CTO's password anymore because the last guy who remembered the master password got laid off.

  • @JohnVance
    @JohnVance ปีที่แล้ว +129

    "they're looking for a whole startup" so accurate it hurts

  • @nopens
    @nopens ปีที่แล้ว +79

    Jokes aside i never understood these specific year counts and apparently employers did not either. Just because you work with a tool doesnt mean you unlock new uses for it every set periods of time.

  • @ecampo123
    @ecampo123 ปีที่แล้ว +401

    As a student that graduated last May, this has been my job search experience so far

    • @tanveerhasan2382
      @tanveerhasan2382 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sad

    • @zzouplornfluke503
      @zzouplornfluke503 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Have you landed one yet?

    • @gotaya855
      @gotaya855 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      where are you living? because in my city, I can find in 3min an interesting job with a bachelor/ masters degree in cs

    • @Jubinmail
      @Jubinmail ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sixstanger00 i guess the advent of ai would change things up a bit

    • @sixstanger00
      @sixstanger00 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Jubinmail AI can't write clean code.

  • @GregorifElfeNoir
    @GregorifElfeNoir ปีที่แล้ว +28

    "php 3,4,5,6 -
    - 6 ?"
    That one honnestly got me by surprise XD

  • @frz_akbar
    @frz_akbar ปีที่แล้ว +88

    fun fact, recruiters are literally looking for this guy, he knows everything in all of IT based on the videos he makes

    • @0biwan7
      @0biwan7 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      yeah they'll happily offer him a junior position

    • @nikolatasev4948
      @nikolatasev4948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@0biwan7 Only if they can't hire him as an unpaid intern.

  • @beto5720
    @beto5720 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    FastAPI 7 years and Chocolate JavaScript are my speciality

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Chocolate Javascript is fast, optimized, and delicious 😆 🍫

    • @marianhreads
      @marianhreads ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My company deploys Chocolate JS with Chocolatey package manager for the ultimate sweet-tooth stack

  • @stevebob240
    @stevebob240 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    "They're looking for a whole startup" Yep, seen those job listings before.

  • @zeriel9148
    @zeriel9148 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Qualifications: be John Carmack. This is an entry level job. You will be paid in exposure."

  • @valdompinga3790
    @valdompinga3790 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    The problem with this video, is that it ends.

  • @keith3761
    @keith3761 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Imagine you add one more year to everything and apply; go to the interview and then they dont hire you because they found a "more qualified candidate..."🤔

    • @vectoralphaAI
      @vectoralphaAI ปีที่แล้ว +93

      That person added 2 more years to everything.

    • @AverageVirgo
      @AverageVirgo ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@vectoralphaAI And by that time C-sharpest was released and that person had already 5+ years of experience of it.

    • @HarryBallsOnYa345
      @HarryBallsOnYa345 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      Some people have told me that they just put those requirements up there to see if your willing to take a risk. I'm just thinking this is how you end up with a staff of liar's 🤷‍♂️

    • @taramaforhaikido7272
      @taramaforhaikido7272 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HarryBallsOnYa345 Probably the point. To see if you have the balls to challenge them and call them into question. It's a test.
      Well, that and bad habit. It's both. Either way honesty is what's important. Good communication skills will always be the number one focus. Because without that whatever the job is will fall apart. If their communication is "Bullshit with excuses" then challenge it. Find out more. Make valid counter arguments. Worst case scenorio, you don't get hired. Best case scenorio, people that try not to get hired, get hired. Because they don't stand for bullshit.
      Treat it like a realationship in other words. Trust me on this one. I got a partner and we make it work because conflict keeps people honest. Boss fire you? Keep asking them questions. Keep pushing for communication. They'll either hire you to stop taking up their time, or they'll actually see you as persistent enough to get results. If that doesn't work then unification I suppose. It's the one thing people with power fear. Because you can't buy back a ruined reputation. Reputation in turn affects sales. So in a sense you can use a companies greed against them. Companies that get absorbed into bigger companies also end up dying off. It's by design. Think about how EA does it. It's like that. EA takes over other gaming companies to have the half baked unpolished mess on release and they want that because they see the smaller companies as a threat to them. So instead of risking competition they buy them off. Under the guise of "helping" them. Which is exactly what happens with job companies as well.
      This is only a fraction of what they get up too. HR is another can of worms. They'll trick you into signing a "handbook" to sign about not being able to sue them. I've never had a job and I know all the traps. Because I do research and play the system instead of letting it abuse me. No rat race for me.

    • @MaeLSTRoM1997
      @MaeLSTRoM1997 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AverageVirgo better start learning C-sharpester before it's released to get ahead of the curve

  • @deadweight4887
    @deadweight4887 ปีที่แล้ว +136

    As someone who was an intern and wasn't offered a full-time job at the end of the internship, this is how it feels to be job hunting again. People told me it would be easier now that I have experience but I feel disqualified for most junior positions because they ask for so much more.

    • @hanswoast7
      @hanswoast7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I think the only option is to ignore the listed criteria and apply to junior roles anyway.

    • @omegarekrut
      @omegarekrut ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Now it's even worse than ever. And you know what? I started respect Marx even more, because he perfectly describe situation with capitalism, where is everyone sees you not as a human but an instrument for profit

    • @Dysfunctionality15
      @Dysfunctionality15 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@omegarekrut Yep! Private property, and thus the capitalist system, is predicated on the alienation of the worker from their labor. This is as true today as it was in the 19th-century!

    • @JasonRobards2
      @JasonRobards2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nowadays companies do not pay for the skill level you have, but for the wage you could be getting in a different company.

    • @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
      @WhirlwindHeatAndFlash 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Dont do internships. Period. They are a scam to allow companies to avoid hiring more people. By doing interships you are actively making the horrendous job market worse.

  • @cwtrain
    @cwtrain ปีที่แล้ว +259

    3:08
    >"...in an overly time-pressed, toxic Agile environment."
    Well at least they came out and said it. That's something.

  • @amorfati4559
    @amorfati4559 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I got my CS degree a year ago and can't get anything. I guess even more experienced guys are having these same problems too. But I feel like going to school was a waste of time and money now. I'm stuck as a janitor and hate every day of my life.

    • @teaadvice4996
      @teaadvice4996 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I barely got a job. And it was because of a bootcamps indian connections

    • @josepoktopus8924
      @josepoktopus8924 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Do some projects for yourself, times will get better. Learning aws helped me to get my first job.

    • @Flowerstokitty
      @Flowerstokitty ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I feel it. Graduated in July of last year with my bachelors in Software Development. I did some job interviews initially but then like…..nothing. For 2 out of the 3 final round interviews, they specifically said “it’s gonna be between you and some guy with X amount of experience “, guy with experience won both times. Now it’s just radio silence. I’m stuck at my retail job. I too feel like I completely wasted my time, and every time I have a bad day, I think it’s my fault for not having done more. We’ll get there soon man. Keep the faith and keep on coding! Gotta keep sharp for when opportunity knocks, you gotta be ready

  • @lastninjaitachi
    @lastninjaitachi ปีที่แล้ว +101

    This is real. Ive been in IT my whole life. The hardest part is getting past the first HR interview, theyre gatekeepers.

    • @GovindaA
      @GovindaA ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Imma start lying if they don’t stop gate keeping. Might even check that disability box if it helps

    • @lastninjaitachi
      @lastninjaitachi ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@GovindaA its anoying isnt it. They ask you if you identify as a million genders and races, then exspect you to have 5 plus years experience in everything.

    • @lastninjaitachi
      @lastninjaitachi ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @YoursV that is always the other problem, its usually based off if they like you, or some cases if youre attractive, since most HR are young women

    • @MrViki60
      @MrViki60 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lastninjaitachi manlets and whitoids stand no chance

    • @DelibalFragman1
      @DelibalFragman1 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@MrViki60 bruh i am 5'6 living on hard mode

  • @hollyplyler9840
    @hollyplyler9840 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    "nobody wants to work any more" and "It's so hard to find qualified candidates"

    • @rabokarabekian409
      @rabokarabekian409 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      "nobody wants to work any more" and "It's so hard to find qualified candidates" = subtext: for such crappy pay/benefits

  • @MrBenMcLean
    @MrBenMcLean ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The reason there are so many job listings like this is because the hiring managers posting them want to hire internally but are prevented from just hiring their guy by a stupid rule all the companies have that all jobs have to be posted publicly. So what they do is that they take the exact resume of the exact guy they already want to hire internally and they post that guy's exact resume as the job requirements. Then they just hire the guy they intended to hire after having technically complied with the rule. This is happening at LOTS of big companies, but it also influences the job postings of smaller companies who don't know what they want, so they just copy the kinds of requirements they see from the big companies and that's what happens.
    Apply anyway if you've been doing anything reasonably close for a few years.
    Get ready for lots of rejections though because the tech job market is FLOODED with applicants right now after the mass layoffs! It's a buyer's market. Employers get to be real picky.

    • @haydengalloway5177
      @haydengalloway5177 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      More often its that they want to bring in an H1B but the rules say they have to put an ad out for the job first.

    • @strictlyunreal
      @strictlyunreal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, I've seen that done in my department (I wasn't in Software Development at the time). The job requirements were awfully specific and, when it comes to the required experience, delusional: 10+ years, when I had gotten the job with 0 experience a couple of years prior. Turns out it was someone's acquaintance that they wanted to hire and all that experience amounted to nothing, because he was asking me for help and advice about how to do his job.

  • @robertjenkins6132
    @robertjenkins6132 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Job postings like this is why I decided to abandon this career path, even though my degree was in computer science.
    Got sick of reading stuff like: "5+ years of experience with [a technology or language that has only been around for 2 years]".
    Are there any entry-level openings? "Yes, we have an entry-level position, but it requires 3+ years of experience." OK...
    Who wants to work for toxic people who write such nonsense in their job postings?
    Probably human traffickers treat their 'merchandise' better than tech companies treat their employees (slight exaggeration - but only slight).
    I read in the news that they are mass-firing people lately.

    • @blorg7174
      @blorg7174 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      At this rate, big tech is gonna crash. Might want to just find a job that works and hang on tight

    • @dylan.j.schreiner
      @dylan.j.schreiner ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They mass-fire when they are terrible at hiring, yes. The bloat being cut are people that lied about their usefulness, got hired without knowing what the company actually needs, or they simply have become less speculative/expansive (less work, less people).
      It would be better to just talk to leadership and devs if you have the entry-level charisma, politic & communication skill to learn about what they actually need and convey your competence (how you fit in).
      Any corporate job is hell if you are helpless in the face of gatekeepers. lol

  • @icaromendes1250
    @icaromendes1250 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    C sharp... C SHARPER!
    I died! 😂

  • @Humuhumunukunukuapaa
    @Humuhumunukunukuapaa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Applied to a job on indeed once. Got a phone call interview within a few hours and it was them trying to get it support for there server issue. I walked them through the issue and how to resolve it as I thought it was a test. They took down the job inquiry the next day.

  • @TheTwober
    @TheTwober ปีที่แล้ว +47

    If you are an advanced senior dev and indeed have all those qualifications, yet still get denied the job.

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว

      Hence at least one requirement for a tech that's so new it hasn't come out of beta yet, and would never be encountered in-production unless you work for that company. He should bust out that grey beard again and do an "Interview with an age 55 developer"

    • @TheTwober
      @TheTwober ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mandisaw Well I once got denied for a job, because they were afraid I wouldn't be able to learn the new API they were using, which I invented...
      So they always come up with something it seems. :D

    • @peezieforestem5078
      @peezieforestem5078 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      "you're overqualified for the job"
      which translates to:
      "we weren't actually expecting someone like this to show up, we're just tricking juniors who don't know any better into feeling inadequate so that we can pay them less"

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@peezieforestem5078 I told my old boss a few months into my current job, that it's not like he's/they're paying me for all of my skills & experience, they have a job, I do it, and they kind of get whatever extra skills/exp I have as a freebie.

  • @Turalcar
    @Turalcar 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I remember a meme about what if they tried hiring drivers as they do with programmers:
    Drives anything from motorcycles to buses, substantial experience as a mechanic. Armored vehicles, airplanes or helicopters are a plus.

  • @kalebbruwer
    @kalebbruwer ปีที่แล้ว +40

    They'll also expect you to work like it's a startup, while only paying you like you're maintaining a mom and pop shop's website

    • @mckenziekeith7434
      @mckenziekeith7434 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then give you no equity...

  • @Moosa_Says
    @Moosa_Says ปีที่แล้ว +74

    OMG, I laughed so hard at the end when you said.. alright, let's add one more year to everything,, let's set this up! LMAO .. Every developer's answer to the hilarious requirements 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mau345
    @mau345 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    “no hearing, no health”😂😂

  • @RayZhaTV
    @RayZhaTV ปีที่แล้ว +36

    the sad thing is, that this is not just a joke, it's actually pretty close to reality.

  • @mareks.4841
    @mareks.4841 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    "React version 16.8 they they are very specific, hydration, dehydration". I will be thinking about this for the foreseeable future. Thank you 🤗🤗

    • @pairofrooks
      @pairofrooks ปีที่แล้ว +1

      16.8 was the Hooks update, after which we don't use classes to write components anymore. Unless you're some kind of sicko 😂 So yes, calling out 16.8 is a thing.

  • @animanaut
    @animanaut ปีที่แล้ว +34

    reality: forget everthing you learned because you are put in an urgent legacy project because the fed up lead dev told his boss to shove this effing project somewhere where the sun don’t shine ... but the customer pays good money to keep that corpse of a tech stack alive. guess who is doing jquery now for the next five years?

    • @cuatro336
      @cuatro336 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This. This exactly.

  • @bottomboygaming7699
    @bottomboygaming7699 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I feel this to my core. I graduated with an applied math degree and did a bootcamp in web development. I literally see junior web developer posts with 3+ years of experience looking for a fullstack data engineer, phd preferred.

    • @thegeth4293
      @thegeth4293 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I quit my math degree during the plague and just got a cdl.
      Ill go back to college later but online only. Im never setting foot on a physical campus again.

    • @TheWalkingPotato1
      @TheWalkingPotato1 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      with those 3+ years of experience, you're not a junior dev anymore 💀

    • @jimmyjakes1823
      @jimmyjakes1823 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@thegeth4293 Did you get a truck driving job? How do you like it? I'm finishing a CS degree, and I'm seriously debating whether I should go to grad school or truck driving school next.

    • @thegeth4293
      @thegeth4293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jimmyjakes1823 truck driving sucks, i did it for 1 month then quit to deliver pizza at my old job, im very overweight and im putting my life on hold until that changes. When i accomplish that goal, im gonna entoll in western governors university for CS. Having a cdl means you will never be out of work, but after my brief experience, i would only do it if my only other option was mcdonalds or warehouse work. Trucking to me is a last resort job now.

  • @keithprice1950
    @keithprice1950 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Last year I was applying for a lot of web dev jobs. Remember seeing web dev intern positions that were asking for two years web dev experience.

    • @traveller23e
      @traveller23e ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I once had a recruiter call me up to offer me a 6-month internship during which time they would teach me how to use C# and even pay me with a third of the money I was already making as a full-stack dev in a terrible startup. I had 5 years C# experience.

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    I'm laughing and crying at the same time.
    Oh God! What a time to live!

    • @mauricio-poppe
      @mauricio-poppe ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You mean: what a time to be alive!

  • @Adama7636
    @Adama7636 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Spot on with the description of the job requirements, especially the part about commitment to free market ideas, no insurance, and anti-unionism.

    • @clray123
      @clray123 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's right, actual companies don't like little woke communists who wish to do nothing while moaning about life's hardships. Surprise surprise.

  • @KEKW-lc4xi
    @KEKW-lc4xi 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    I recently decided to work at McDonald's, even though I have a Bachelor's degree in computer science. I'm still trying to apply for other jobs, but I've applied to many over the past year. It's frustrating that I've even been turned down for IT jobs where I feel overqualified. Unfortunately, my education has led me to work at McDonald's and accumulate $50,000 in student loan debt.

    • @lovely-shrubbery8578
      @lovely-shrubbery8578 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      super rough :( , hang in there dawg i hope you can get something you deserve.

    • @KEKW-lc4xi
      @KEKW-lc4xi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lovely-shrubbery8578 thanks. Ultimately though I've never cared about money and never will. I've been poor my whole life and don't really mind if it stays that way. Video games are a cheap hobby. Would be neat to buy rich people food like blueberries and raspberries and such though. Which, admittedly, sometimes I do partake in some retail therapy and buy pistachios, yogurt, and beef jerky but that isn't the norm.

    • @Bangy
      @Bangy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m glad I have well-connected parents who shoehorned me into an job.

  • @grim1427
    @grim1427 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I think this is actually the company's way of saying they need a new HR person.

  • @techkid10194
    @techkid10194 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    I got a Bsc in software engineering from my home country in Jordan and am now in the states looking for a job, and this is remarkably accurate, I have no idea how the hell any fresh grad gets a job, I even got a web dev internship , have done many projects , am scrum certified and am working on my angular skills, and out of all the EXTREMELY TIDEOUS applications I filled I haven't got a single job yet, But lets keep hoping

    • @loertishahini3419
      @loertishahini3419 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't worry you will find one, just be patient 😄

    • @techkid10194
      @techkid10194 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@loertishahini3419 apperceiate that, thank you ❤️

    • @maximpetrossian2513
      @maximpetrossian2513 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Good luck, homie!
      It was rough for me as well. Just gotta latch unto anything you can find and start building that work experience. But be sure to accept strictly software engineering roles that will grow your career and not anything else in tech (god knows its flooded with all kinds of positions).

    • @techkid10194
      @techkid10194 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@maximpetrossian2513 thank you for the encouragement man, and Ive seen many roles outside of software engineering that pay well but i know will hinder my career in the future, share whatever tips or things you did to get your first position

    • @maximpetrossian2513
      @maximpetrossian2513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@techkid10194 Network with people in your area. Go to local hiring events/booths. I got my foot through the door with a small startup that I discovered through a friend.
      Don't be afraid of taking a role in a small company that doesn't pay at industry level. But don't get too comfortable in one once you find it. Keep studying and learning and searching for the next big thing :)

  • @dariusz.9119
    @dariusz.9119 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I just finished my 3 month internship in a company and now I will have to find a job. Just last week I saw a "Junior C# backend developer" offer and they wanted minimum 3 years of experience in COMMERCIAL projects - yes they wrote commercial in capital letters

  • @xxnetravenxx6965
    @xxnetravenxx6965 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I keep getting contacted about unicorn jobs too. Must be an expert level engineer in 20 different unique languages and technologies, masters degree or PhD required or 15 years experience in relevant roles, cover 5-10 different full-time positions without support “self starter”, willing to work at least 60 hours a week on a salary pay, must sell soul to company, on site only, hours of crack of dawn until dinner time and must be on call, strict dress code…

  • @pat1157
    @pat1157 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Okay, let's add one more year to everything" had me dying.

  • @WhiteThunder121
    @WhiteThunder121 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    That's not an IT department, that's an entire startup.

  • @mrisholukamba1696
    @mrisholukamba1696 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    The legend is back😂

  •  ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:34 the chord on "F". Amazing.

  • @DeanRTaylor
    @DeanRTaylor ปีที่แล้ว +47

    They should make recuriters do basic courses on the tech stack. I saw a front end react job yesterday for a marketing agency that listed 'Rustaceans' as a skill under nice to have.

    • @tykjpelk
      @tykjpelk ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Aka proficient in shell and C

    • @DeanRTaylor
      @DeanRTaylor ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@tykjpelk I thought its what rust users call themselves either way it didn't fit the stack at all.

  • @crazyhussar
    @crazyhussar ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "They looking for a whole startup"
    I lost it

  • @sixstringedthing
    @sixstringedthing ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a non-programmer, the seemingly endless montage sequence of platform/technology acronym jargon was baffling but impressive. But the "overtime... what is overtime?" bit has universal appeal.

  • @keenoogodlike
    @keenoogodlike 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    In Thailand, Company and Gov job require employee that know how write Web Application + Networking + Repairing (1 person) for entire department. Base salary is 6,000 dollars a year. Not even kidding.

  • @nintendoeats
    @nintendoeats ปีที่แล้ว +13

    About 6 months ago I applied for a c++ job that actually had pretty reasonable requirements. I had everything they wanted except no experience with MFC (which was hardly a killer, I've actually done a little bit of raw Win32). I was even working in an adjacent industry. They really couldn't have found a better candidate for that job description.
    HR person called me the next day, very enthusiastic. Salary? 65k CAD
    Even the HR person used the word "optimistic" regarding that number. Honestly, I can't imagine what kind of person they hired for that money.

  • @metanoia6033
    @metanoia6033 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Front-end job posts include equally long list of required back-end tools
    Entry level but requiring at least 2 years experience
    Doesn't post salary range
    Gets invitation from recruiter because they say skills in Linkedin (updated and clearly states "front-end") matches their needs and then asks for CV. Proceeds with interview but asks about back-end tools only.
    🤷🤷🤷

    • @strictlyunreal
      @strictlyunreal 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The reverse is also true. I've recently been to a technical interview for a "Junior PHP & Laravel Developer", but all they talked about during the interview was front-end and Vue.js. Turns out that they didn't even use Laravel! Like... WHAT???

  • @Mocktailmetal
    @Mocktailmetal ปีที่แล้ว +16

    This happens because of consultancies and staffing companies marketing their candidates. The way they boost their candidate's CVs to compete with other consultancies and staffing companies candidates is wrong and illegal on so many levels. And it's done to just acquire that commission. Because of that, the employer posting for job also bump up the requirements for the job. If the technology is built just recently like 1 year ago, the staffing companies will market the candidate has 3 years of experience. This is stupid!

  • @Necitero
    @Necitero ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Advice for new people in this field: Ignore those requirements. Like, 90% of it.
    Finished my digital designer apprenticeship last year and immediately went job hunting for junior front-end development. Basically, this is what most job offers looked like, but in the end, the company I wanted to go to said: "Look, nothing on your resume besides your self-hosted and coded portfolio says that you can do anything in this field. But you seem determined, so we wanna give you the opportunity." 10 months later I get promoted to a medior position. I would say I am not the very best as of now, but I have shown how much I love this field and learned so much, they even talked about future plans like "Maybe someday you could go into an Assistance Technical Director position haha, but that's like, for the future."

    • @yyunko7764
      @yyunko7764 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      same thing here, was hired for a embedded programming position, I was open about the fact that I'd just graduated from EE and that I basically knew nothing about programming, was told that I looked motivated and that if I thought I could do it, the job was mine, three years later I'm a embedded systems engineer...

    • @StarboyXL9
      @StarboyXL9 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This comment smells like a lie

    • @harryharrison362
      @harryharrison362 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@StarboyXL9 🥲🤥

    • @malikvalley
      @malikvalley ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah guys. And here I am, coding for myself since school. And you with the stories "They saw my motivated face and I got in, basically knew nothing"..
      No offence, but it just frustrates me

    • @Necitero
      @Necitero ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@malikvalley It was definitely a ton of luck. I know there are people who started earlier than me and are better than me, not having as much luck as I have. I really hope you can find something good, soon. But yeah, I can understand it’s frustrating, I’m sorry.

  • @BertPdeboy
    @BertPdeboy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    fortnite..FORTINET
    LMAOOO 👌

  • @mllenessmarie
    @mllenessmarie ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I still chuckle seeing Certifications part of a job offer and "Security+, CISM, CISSP"... It doesn't even matter if it's security engineer, security officer or security manager... Yes, because Sec+ and CISSP are definitely on the same level, yup!

  • @Consural
    @Consural ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "They are looking for a whole startup" broke me. Also the "6 years Azure experience" being written 3 times

  • @devjwhy
    @devjwhy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    HE'S BACK!!! 2023! Keep it coming!

  • @Quantris
    @Quantris ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for this video! it has saved me so much time in writing up our new job listing!

  • @cipix37
    @cipix37 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I once saw a comment on a post about this topic, claiming that such ridiculous requirements for entry level jobs are posted only by "Top companies" because every one of their juniors is worth one senior from other companies. And that the advertised seniority level only refers to seniority within that specific company.
    Yeah right, what a joke.

  • @taan1424
    @taan1424 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Tried to get in at the end of the current tech-rush on the advice of a buddy who learned to code at the age of 13. "Trust me bro, just go to this bootcamp and you will get a job". Yeah, I am one of those people.
    Spent a full year learning web development and the only offers I got was from two shitty exuses for a start-up with no pay. I even accepted one, but the "start-up" fell appart when the funding dried up at the end of last year. Its been 3 months of constant rejection and I think I'll just stick to bussing tables for now.

    • @jimba6486
      @jimba6486 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Don’t quit developing your skills

    • @rogerdinhelm4671
      @rogerdinhelm4671 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      End of current tech rush? I heard the same 10 years ago, when I just started working

    • @Kalistane
      @Kalistane ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you located and do you have a portfolio and linkedin page? I might be able to help (but no guarantees)

  • @Soleryth
    @Soleryth ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:46 "They're looking for a whole startup" really got me a good laugth
    Excellent, as always !

  • @ajzack983
    @ajzack983 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just discovered this channel, this is great ! Please do a Flutter interview !

  • @imjustadev
    @imjustadev ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What I find really unfortunate is that those who market themselves are the ones getting hired, not the ones with the required skills. These people usually have little knowledge, but confidence plays magic for them. On the other hand, people who do possess the necessary skills know the complexity of the topics and don't have much confidence (even though capable). Really, the more you learn, the less confident you are because the more you understand the complexities. Confident folks have shallow knowledge and basic understanding. But they communicate well and are preferred over ones with deep knowledge who can't articulate well.

  • @nKe.
    @nKe. ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I once saw "At least 5 years of experience" as a requirement for unpaid internship.

  • @vectoralphaAI
    @vectoralphaAI ปีที่แล้ว +11

    And ALL those requirements were for Entry level Junior beginner devs straight out of college. LOL the Tech industry hiring and HR is broken beyond belief. Why would anyone want to work in such an industry with such archaic hiring processes.

    • @mdterps0325
      @mdterps0325 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      💸

    • @gdwe1831
      @gdwe1831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know man, my first developer job was really difficult to get, but since then I've been inundated with recruiters the last 3 jobs.
      It's getting your foot in the door that's tough.

  • @aes-256e
    @aes-256e ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I've always considered my 3 years of college as years of experience, so when i got out, I was 20 and had 3 years in JS, PHP, C#, name it, I got the job in a few weeks. As long as you know how to actually code, it doesn't matter. Now I'm 27 and have 10+ years of experience. I can finally apply to Higher Junior jobs!

    • @mineantoine1248
      @mineantoine1248 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean you did projects so yes

  • @supperEisMan
    @supperEisMan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I dont know what is worse:
    That this is not even exaggerated or that many devs actually have this kind of insane scope of skillsets...

  • @jushustudios
    @jushustudios ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I live in LA and graduated last year. Have been looking for an entry position since and have gotten 1 interview. Been bouncing back and forth trying to learn web dev and microcontrollers to find what I like in the meantime.

  • @JoFuSoA
    @JoFuSoA ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Been waiting for a new video! You genius! Thanks, made my day! LoL!

  • @siddharthbouddha
    @siddharthbouddha ปีที่แล้ว +8

    ‘C Sharper’ got me 😂

  • @mllenessmarie
    @mllenessmarie ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "C#... C sharper" - ok, that's just too funny. xD

    • @mandisaw
      @mandisaw ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the pitch changes from C, D, E, F 😂 🎼

    • @JD-hb2wf
      @JD-hb2wf ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mandisaw He could have continued with C sharp and C sharpter too, which would just be D

  • @prashantd6252
    @prashantd6252 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A great topic, least discussed but one which affects most people couldnt stop laughing dude 👏 ✔️

  • @MechMK1
    @MechMK1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And when you get the job, they're asking you to create a static website, which just includes a phone number to their sales hotline.

  • @tntzx6311
    @tntzx6311 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fluent conversation.... "With Alexa "

  • @5thHouse
    @5thHouse ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Whenever I see job descriptions like this, I just think, "Oh, this is a job for one specific person they know and they need to make the position "open to the public", but they already know they're gonna hire the bosses kid.

  • @fyrestorme
    @fyrestorme ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "10+ years in obscure language/tool x"
    *obscure language tool x was invented 6 years ago*

  • @bentoth4324
    @bentoth4324 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    PHP...6? I died a little when I got that joke.

    • @lawrencedoliveiro9104
      @lawrencedoliveiro9104 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I got that joke too.
      The trick to surviving PHP is to cleanse your palette with a bit of code in some other language afterwards.

  • @tomashcraft
    @tomashcraft 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    "Let's add one more year to everything and set this up"
    I felt it. Physically. All those years. Well... "Let's add one more".