Here's the funny thing - all this is what JAMES said back in the day. He wanted Pac to stay in his lane, and not claim MOB. Pac was the artist, and he should have let the homies handle the rough stuff. And everyone said James was a hater, but in the end, James was right. And he was saying way back in the day!
Whether PAC was claiming the Mob or not, he already had a price on his head and was a trophy! Why do u think they decided to hit him just for putting hands on some dude? Diddy was scared to death and wanted Pac & Suge dead
Yes pac had a mind of his own, but he led the stomp on Orlando , Suge instead of holding him back or calm the situation down, joined the chorus stomping him.
@tonyeloo7199 means it's two grown men doing whatever they wanted; Pac was not a kid. You guys have to stop worshipping people to the point where they are not responsible for their doings.
@israelbrewton5742 Pac could have looked at the situation and gone straight to the club or home. Nobody made Pac do anything that he didn't want to do. You can't have it both ways, such as Pac answers to nobody, but then someone should have stopped Pac lol.
Everybody always want to blame pac for the orlando anderson beating trayvon lane had no business telling tupac about gang business suge knight as the boss should have told trayvon let the homies handle not the money maker so with that being said the ones who take the blame are suge for not putting trayvon lane in check for getting tupac involved in gang activity and suge for allowing tupac to swing on a known gang member slash hitter
That wasn’t loyalty, it was poor judgement. Pac, knew them dudes for “five mins” and didn’t owe them anything. Dude, had no business involving himself in a situation that didn’t concern him. Pac, was a recording artist and ignorant to LA street life.
Actually it did involve Pac just think if Pac didn’t get bailed out by Suge that situation wouldn’t have happened but if he would have been bailed out by someone else who was on what Pac was on the situation would have happened cause of the affiliation being with Pac cause of the people he had problems with it all happened cause someone put a bounty on the Deathrow chains that came from the people who had beef with Pac
You obviously don't know much about 2pac ! The situation completely concerned him because p diddy had put a bounty on the death row chains because he wanted 1 for a music video to diss 2pac and that's what it was over so how does that not concern 2pac ? And saying he didn't know about la is just dumb he knew aswell as any body..3 members of his thug life group before death row were Crips so he was well aware of how gang shit worked ...looked up the story of when he got into a fight with rolling 60s Crips Evan.. people that ain't got a clue about 2pac need to shut the F up and stop disrespecting him!!
@@brennyN777 Man, shut your emotional behind up. Some of ya’ll love making excuses for, Pac irrationality surrounding his untimely death. I probably know more about Pac, than you do. Again, that mess wasn’t his fight, he wasn’t involved in Lakewood Mall incident. I don’t give a darn who place bounty on DR chain. As I’ve stated before Pac was an artist, Buntry, Orlando and rest of them dudes were bangers. Pac, should have stayed in his lane. Period! When you put hands/feet on a known hitter, you don’t get to choose how said person respond.
Listen, I love 2Pac. He’s my favorite artist of all time, but he needs to be held accountable for his actions, he had no business hitting Orlando. I understand his loyalty runs deep, but Suge should’ve shielded 2Pac from that gang shit 2Pac was his biggest money asset at the moment in time.
@@KP43-08 I totally agree with you I've been saying that all the time that's why it's so hard for me to not believe he didn't have anything to do with it
@@davidbell7435 I agree Tupac was so ahead of his time people think he couldn’t do no wrong but He was wrong he was human he made mistakes, but one just cost his life
Everybody talk about the bad and the end but he really built something amazing that changed the world Free Suge Knight that man changed rap culture gang culture all that shit and when he was home everybody was real quiet all ima say is Free Simon
@@FrederickBonah he funded the start but he aint build shit he didnt get Dre and DOC off Ruthless Suge did he didnt help make Chronic Doggystyle and All Eyez On Me Suge did fr I understand he always been a hated figure but that doesnt take away from what he helped build that image that logo that era that name came from him at the end of the day
People always blame Suge, but Tupac had his own mind & what he was going to do, he took it upon himself to jump on Orlando & that was his death sentence, in my opinion I would have told Pac to chill in the hotel for the rest of the night after that , but he was trying make it to go perform at club 662. . . RIP Pac 🕊️🕊️🕊️
It never ceases to amaze me how these men fail to take accountability for their own actions. From the minute this interview started this man has put blame on his brother, Suge Knight, and everybody else except for himself and the people who caused their own demise...
I really believe that it was his final destination that night. Everything he did and happened to him in his life lead to that tragic moment. Snoop was right on one thing Pac & Big had to be sacrificed in order to bring hiphop to the next level . And Pac suffered from major PTSD after the grape case, the NY shooting and jail.
@@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj who wouldn't they were extortionists and were terrorizing the shit out of him. probably even killed him in the end. pacs demise was pretty much caused by beeing a young rapper/movie star who refused to get extorted, when crime was at it's height and black gangsters had real power, politival power etc...also the most violent time in most cities...early 90s
Its crazy to me the mob didnt retaliate against baby lane before vegas for trying to take Trayvon's chain. The Mob was slipping before vegas if you ask me.
I wouldn't say Suge is fully responsible b/c Pac was a grown man in control of his own actions, however throughout the years I've read articles and seen interviews of ppl close to Pac who were outside of Death Row that claim Pac's attitude & temperament would shift when Suge was around. He felt that he had to act a certain way or do certain things to prove himself and instead of Suge reigning him in and helping him to underhis importance to the label and just his destructive behavior in general Suge woukd encourage it. If Suge woulda discouraged the bullshit with Pac maybe he makes a different decision that night.
SUGE is fully responsible , he added fuel to an already wild off the chain pac .. there have been plenty of stories where SUGE played a major influence on pac in negative ways.
Suge is only responsible for the negative and hostile environment he created around Death Row Records. They were making millions but was extremely unprofessional. That’s why Dr Dre left.
@@magnetshakur no he didn’t, Pac was a rapper not a gang banger. He should’ve stayed in his lane. And even if they did leave Vegas that night they still could’ve gotten shot later on. You don’t put your hands on one period unless you are defending yourself.
@@xLaMarquis309 i disagree with u. Pac did what he had n shoulda did. Nobody gone touch somebody with ex navy seals as security Who cares if he was a rapper HE STOOD ON PRINCIPLES.
@@Rondondemarco i can name you so many people, i don't even know where to start. See I'm a student of Pac, i learned so much from him and he is my all time favorite Artist acrroos Music and Acting and so much more. But you can't be serious to think that he is the most talked about person of all time. you really really wanna get into it? peace
@@KalmWolf84 THANK GOD for someone else saying it besides me. They have turned Tupac talk into religious mythology and folklore type of ishh. It's extremely corny now and I grew up on PAC and even met him once got the small picture signing and all but dude was just another talented brother not a Messiah. I promise people think dude was the Messiah SECRETLY. Art and Vlad think PAC was Jesus or some stuff man. Just like the fan dudes above me. These dudes turned PAC legacy corny fam. They need to let other great people have some coverage too.
I love Pac to death, love his music and i think he was a great artist BUT this was on him, 100 percent. No one told him to run up on Orlando and do what he did, it was his choice. I know Pac was being loyal and i believe that pac was never a punk but there is being loyal and then there is being stupid, i don't know if pac drank a lot that night or maybe he was super hyped up after that tyson fight, it was a foolish choice. He was not a gangbanger, yes pac could hold his own probably, and he been in some scraps but the niggas he was dealing with were killers, pac was not. Once he touched Orlando it was basically bangin, he entered that territory. Pac was should of just stayed away from that mess and stayed being a rapper instead of trying to be a gangster. Frank Sinatra and Pac are similar in that they hung around gangsters but the thing is Frank was not dumb enough to get involved in the beefs lol, it would be like Frank Sinatra, who had mob ties and hung around the gambinos, just running up on a rival mobster and punching him, what do yall think would have happned to frank lol.
who knows what he told pac; who knows if that’s even true: if we all standing around why am i gonna whisper in somewhere ear shit don’t make sense at all
@@MultiKadafi from the time orlando came in to the time of the fight is like 5 minutes. so you telling me he just so happen to walk in and go right where they at; and he points him out to pac and says what tho ???? that’s the nigga that took my chain ??? don’t make sense
them dudes didn't have no real love for Pac, and i honestly don't expect them to, they knew him under a year....but he got hit up, and he's in the hospital fighting for his life, and they hop in their cars and head right back to Compton...Theyd didn't stick around to hold Pac and his family down at the hospital. I remember Gobi and Muta saying that it was basically just the Outlaws playing the role of security for Pac when he was in the hospital.
Pac made a crash dummy move, you gotta know who you’re messing with before you decide to make a move, especially if you’re a backup dancer turned Thug Life representative.
Your IQ is low. He started from the bottom and worked his way up without handouts. To go from backup dancer to the number one rapper, can’t knock the hustle. Thug life representative on steroids. He was about to unite the music industry.
@@Thaloveguyokay there crackhead grizzly, a back up dancer who shot up 2 crooked cops. Name your gangsta rapper who ever bust a gun on somebody? Yall just bunch of nobodies hating on a legend who’s known worldwide. Stay being nobody ninja
Glad to see people in the comments are pushing or chasing any conspiracy theories when it comes to the demise of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s a tough topic to speak on, but it’s the truth. There was no sacrifice or set up. If you listened to interviews from Shock G, Money B, Napoleon, Turin Turner etc. then you will understand one thing. Pac was HUMAN. He made mistakes, just like all of us. No human being is perfect, it’s just a valuable lesson to be learned.
He put his hands on several people gangsters, cops, etc. he just didn’t expect retaliation that fast and it was a crazy coincidence Orlando found him a 2nd time had 2pac worn his vest he would still be alive but he didn’t have it cause it was 2 hit that night
bingo 💯🎯Do you see the irony? If Pac didn't fight the directors + stayed in the movie to play the role they had for him, do you think the message in the movie would've prevented his death, since it's the same thing??? Crazy right!?
@@jordannorris4029 facts, all influenced by Suge = if you were Suge, would you want someone who brings-in MULTI-MILLIONS, every week for your company, to be in the streets acting like a gangster in LA, in the 90's??? That's suicide, no matter who you are, so it's obvious that Suge influenced Pac to put himself into situations he knew Pac couldn't handle, which would most likely get him killed, which is what Suge wanted ultimately, since he knew Pac was planning to leave the label soon
The guy that cane beat up came to his hood and act like he wanted to fight and cane hit him first before he could do anything. In pacs case he just ran up on someone who was jus minding his business and gettin in a situation that had nothing to do with him.
All the Tupac stans gonna ignore or make excuses for when he said Tupac was trying to Mob himself and wanted to prove himself tryna bomb on Baby Lane like they usually do lol
Excuses like what? You just heard the man say the already accepted him. The crew he was with was Top Ryders from the Mob. He was 1 of them. For every action there is a reaction
Funny Mob James blamed Suge for not separating Tupac from the situation by rushing him out the door while the security "was whooping on his ass. Orlando probably would've understood that ass whooping because he know, i got some bonafides stomping up on me. Tupac take off on me, this ....... aint nothing but a rapper so i gotta get him back."
I think people have switched the narrative for so long that people believe that s*** about Pac banging, but if you look at the history of that dude, all the way from the beginning up into his death even when he was running with Digital Underground people always say that dude was loyal to a fault with the people that he f***** with and always had people back in every situation and people trying to make it like he was only doing that because of death row but the dude has always been in some s***, having people's back, even before ge got on and but they ignore it, even though that was just who he was
That ain’t what pac was supposed to do ! Son waited until he was in his mid 20s to officially start banging (when he a million dollar nigga) that was very unwise of pac his homeboys was suppose to handle that NOT PAC but it’s just an opinion literally make no sense for the million dollar cash cow to be swingin on crips ( low level crips at that ) nowhere near on pac level
Please STOP BLAMING SUGE for the FATAL Mistake 2PAC made. Come on Man....Suge NEVER TOLD PAC 2 get into Street Beef...Pac did that on his OWN....Suge did not encourage Pac to get into Street Politics. In fact that last pic of Pac n Suge in the car...look at Pac's face...that's cuz Suge was telling him what he did and who he did it too. Suge telling him it's on now and he gon have to be careful and get low for awhile....Plus was probably telling him he's on camera and his bail maybe revoked....that's why Pac was looking like that..because PAC REALIZED AT THAT POINT ..HE FUCKED UP!. SAD all around the board but PLEASE STOP BLAMING SUGE FOR PAC'S HASTY DECISION! #GARRISONRECORDZ
Bro, on some real shyt, I'm somewhat with you on that. Something just isn't correct about this gentleman. It's too much degradation & denigrating towards Mr Knight.
If Tupac wasn't so drunk that night, it never would have happened. I've watched video of that night several times. Before he took off fast he had a drunk walk
This dude’s memory is kind of fuzzy from the events that night. 2Pac died a week later, not a day or two. And 2Pac and Suge was riding in a BMW, not an impala.
When will people start holding 2Pac accountable for his own decisions? It’s not like he was a invalid , we’re talking about someone who had a college education here
All I can say is Tupac did what many people today are still doing being faithful and loyal to people that not going to match your energy.. the best thing for people to do nowadays is be faithful and loyal to yourself and the hell with everybody else..
Suge ain’t have shit to do with that. Dude who almost got his chained snatched at the mall by Orlando walked over to a dude next to Pac to tell him who Orlando was, pac overheard it and took off. Stop blaming everything on Suge
Yeeeah it would be Pacs fault in the long run. He knew there would be reprecussions. He knew the streets. He didnt give a crap. He always said he wasnt going back.
This dude loses credibility in the simple fact he can’t understand a WEEK LATER and a couple days is massively different 😅😂 🤣 The interviewer tried to help him and he STILL FK’d up details 🤦♂️ Bruh … stop 🤣
PAC WAS DEFINITELY SHOWING LOYALTY TO ANYONE THAT WAS IN CIRCLE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE JUST WASN'T READY FOR PAC'S CHARACTER AND HOW HE HAD CARRIED HIMSELF AND IT'S CRAZY TO SEE SOME OF THE SAME THAT KNEW HIM ARE REWRITING HISTORY IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SHOWING DIFFERENT ENERGY VIBES BUT WHO KNOWS I COULD WRONG
I was there that night at The Shrine, when the cars pulled up at the back entrance of the building. I saw the two groups, there was screaming stuff yelling. The Muslims were managing security and checking credentials at the press entrance door. We were pushed inside the building and the building was locked down. The show would go on a bit later.
thank u 🤦🏾♂️ people wanna put the blame on pac so bad as if he just started all this. orlando had no business lurking by mob territory in vegas that night
People keep acting like 2pac was out of line, which he was, but he lived in Los Angeles his whole career, his family lived in Atlanta and he only went to New York for court and business, he knew about how the gang life was, he was just about that life, Suge couldn't control him like he controlled the other artists.
Napoleon saying that Tupac was acting strange right before he died giving away all his jewelry and that eearie pic of him in the BMW tell's me Pac must've felt something
I said its Suge Knight fault for Tupac attacking Orlando Anderson. Go and watch that Video from Los Vegas. Suge Knight he told Tupac to attack Orlando Anderson.. Slow the video down..
Suge did not allow pac to act out, pac acted out on his own without warning. When will y’all blame pac for his recklessness? We are all fans but the man moved with reckless abandon
And you can’t have it both ways. He is saying PAC should have never being involved at the gang level (I agree) but why did your gang accept him on that level, knowing that he was not about that life. Suge is partially to blame for encouraging him, but so are the members of the Piro who knew he was unproven, a celebrity, and basically accepted because of his fame.
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Here's the funny thing - all this is what JAMES said back in the day. He wanted Pac to stay in his lane, and not claim MOB. Pac was the artist, and he should have let the homies handle the rough stuff. And everyone said James was a hater, but in the end, James was right. And he was saying way back in the day!
Nah James still a hater. He said other things in an attempt to tarnish that mans name.
Whether PAC was claiming the Mob or not, he already had a price on his head and was a trophy! Why do u think they decided to hit him just for putting hands on some dude? Diddy was scared to death and wanted Pac & Suge dead
Believe it or not….he was Baby Lane’s favorite artist at the time!!!…Rest up 2 a real CC Rider!!!
@@jackjill8129 how does that tarnish Pac's name? How? We all have roles to play.
@@jajacando9933 that's not all he said
Art: He died a week later actually
Timmy ru: yea like i was sayin a couple days later😂😂😂
A couple of days lol
He wants to be right all the time even when he's wrong😂 He blames Suge for everything 🤦🏽♀️
Bruh 🤣🤣🤣
He probably know somethin.
I knew someone was going to comment on that 😂
Pac was a grown adult; nobody forced pac to stomp Orlando. Put accountability where it belongs.
Did pac hire a bunch of Pirus and create that atmosphere?
Yes pac had a mind of his own, but he led the stomp on Orlando , Suge instead of holding him back or calm the situation down, joined the chorus stomping him.
@tonyeloo7199 means it's two grown men doing whatever they wanted; Pac was not a kid. You guys have to stop worshipping people to the point where they are not responsible for their doings.
@israelbrewton5742 Pac could have looked at the situation and gone straight to the club or home. Nobody made Pac do anything that he didn't want to do. You can't have it both ways, such as Pac answers to nobody, but then someone should have stopped Pac lol.
Everybody always want to blame pac for the orlando anderson beating trayvon lane had no business telling tupac about gang business suge knight as the boss should have told trayvon let the homies handle not the money maker so with that being said the ones who take the blame are suge for not putting trayvon lane in check for getting tupac involved in gang activity and suge for allowing tupac to swing on a known gang member slash hitter
2 Pac hit a man he didn't even know.
I have hit a lot of people I didn't know. It's like that sometimes. What? You are only suppose to hit people you know? What is that shit?
They will tell ya'll anything to believe. Do that sound logical to you. These are stories made up, after the incident to throw people off
that's gang life
@@darnellwilliams8783exactly
Yea he should have introduced himself first.
Tupac was a grown man... nobody could tell him what to do
That wasn’t loyalty, it was poor judgement. Pac, knew them dudes for “five mins” and didn’t owe them anything. Dude, had no business involving himself in a situation that didn’t concern him. Pac, was a recording artist and ignorant to LA street life.
Actually it did involve Pac just think if Pac didn’t get bailed out by Suge that situation wouldn’t have happened but if he would have been bailed out by someone else who was on what Pac was on the situation would have happened cause of the affiliation being with Pac cause of the people he had problems with it all happened cause someone put a bounty on the Deathrow chains that came from the people who had beef with Pac
You obviously don't know much about 2pac ! The situation completely concerned him because p diddy had put a bounty on the death row chains because he wanted 1 for a music video to diss 2pac and that's what it was over so how does that not concern 2pac ? And saying he didn't know about la is just dumb he knew aswell as any body..3 members of his thug life group before death row were Crips so he was well aware of how gang shit worked ...looked up the story of when he got into a fight with rolling 60s Crips Evan.. people that ain't got a clue about 2pac need to shut the F up and stop disrespecting him!!
@brennyN777 so basically what you are saying is that Pac was ready to die that night because he knew what he was doing.
@@brennyN777 Man, shut your emotional behind up. Some of ya’ll love making excuses for, Pac irrationality surrounding his untimely death. I probably know more about Pac, than you do. Again, that mess wasn’t his fight, he wasn’t involved in Lakewood Mall incident. I don’t give a darn who place bounty on DR chain. As I’ve stated before Pac was an artist, Buntry, Orlando and rest of them dudes were bangers. Pac, should have stayed in his lane. Period! When you put hands/feet on a known hitter, you don’t get to choose how said person respond.
@@BountifulOrchard Facts. They just can't hear you, they can't.
Listen, I love 2Pac. He’s my favorite artist of all time, but he needs to be held accountable for his actions, he had no business hitting Orlando. I understand his loyalty runs deep, but Suge should’ve shielded 2Pac from that gang shit 2Pac was his biggest money asset at the moment in time.
@@KP43-08 I totally agree with you I've been saying that all the time that's why it's so hard for me to not believe he didn't have anything to do with it
Tupac had mental health problems
He was, my Nigga.
@@davidbell7435 I agree Tupac was so ahead of his time people think he couldn’t do no wrong but He was wrong he was human he made mistakes, but one just cost his life
He was held accountable for his actions. He was murd3r3d.
He's saying the same thing that Mob James said, but people won't call it hating because it's not coming out of Mob James's mouth.
Suge built and ruined the Death Row empire all on his own. Period
Suge was a negative figga to be around. Everyone was collateral damage around him
Everybody talk about the bad and the end but he really built something amazing that changed the world Free Suge Knight that man changed rap culture gang culture all that shit and when he was home everybody was real quiet all ima say is Free Simon
Harry O build deathrow. He started it off under the parent company Godfather Records.
@@FrederickBonah he funded the start but he aint build shit he didnt get Dre and DOC off Ruthless Suge did he didnt help make Chronic Doggystyle and All Eyez On Me Suge did fr I understand he always been a hated figure but that doesnt take away from what he helped build that image that logo that era that name came from him at the end of the day
@@EdKiD167 understandable 👍🏿👍🏿
People always blame Suge, but Tupac had his own mind & what he was going to do, he took it upon himself to jump on Orlando & that was his death sentence, in my opinion I would have told Pac to chill in the hotel for the rest of the night after that , but he was trying make it to go perform at club 662. . . RIP Pac 🕊️🕊️🕊️
Set up tho
He had to perform that night it was apart of His bail to do charity performances. And that night was just fuck up
@@RonnellYounger & DMC Was there & also Craig Mack
Tupac wanted to fit in where he didn't belong
Facts
Since we're blaming Suge for another man's actions, we might as well blame him for inflation, the border crisis, covid, high taxes, etc 🤷🏾♂️
It never ceases to amaze me how these men fail to take accountability for their own actions. From the minute this interview started this man has put blame on his brother, Suge Knight, and everybody else except for himself and the people who caused their own demise...
Tupac made a fatal mistake by getting into it with Orlando Suge could have prevented it from happening if adequate security measures had been taken.
@malakai5523 it wasn't just about his mistake he was getting death threats and being warned not to go to Vegas
The person in charge of security that night is who had killed Pac….but apparently he was busy over at 66….😉
I really believe that it was his final destination that night. Everything he did and happened to him in his life lead to that tragic moment. Snoop was right on one thing Pac & Big had to be sacrificed in order to bring hiphop to the next level . And Pac suffered from major PTSD after the grape case, the NY shooting and jail.
@@ArthurMorgan-ux9jjyou are right about it being his time. No sacrifice. Just his time to go.
@@ArthurMorgan-ux9jj who wouldn't they were extortionists and were terrorizing the shit out of him. probably even killed him in the end. pacs demise was pretty much caused by beeing a young rapper/movie star who refused to get extorted, when crime was at it's height and black gangsters had real power, politival power etc...also the most violent time in most cities...early 90s
Its crazy to me the mob didnt retaliate against baby lane before vegas for trying to take Trayvon's chain. The Mob was slipping before vegas if you ask me.
PAC is the reason why he’s no longer here
Right. And pac stayed in some shyt. PAC was getting shot and going to prison way before he was even on death row so they can't blame suge and the mob.
Dang....
Thankk God
Cold Facts for the Pac Fanatics 😂
@cornellbrown8489 pac was getting death threats and being warned not to go to Vegas that wasn't no regular gang relatiation
These Repeated 2pac Stories Are Older Than 2pac Himself
They cait get no views less they use Tupac name
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I wouldn't say Suge is fully responsible b/c Pac was a grown man in control of his own actions, however throughout the years I've read articles and seen interviews of ppl close to Pac who were outside of Death Row that claim Pac's attitude & temperament would shift when Suge was around. He felt that he had to act a certain way or do certain things to prove himself and instead of Suge reigning him in and helping him to underhis importance to the label and just his destructive behavior in general Suge woukd encourage it. If Suge woulda discouraged the bullshit with Pac maybe he makes a different decision that night.
SUGE is fully responsible , he added fuel to an already wild off the chain pac .. there have been plenty of stories where SUGE played a major influence on pac in negative ways.
Suge is only responsible for the negative and hostile environment he created around Death Row Records. They were making millions but was extremely unprofessional. That’s why Dr Dre left.
Pac did the right thing. They just needed to leave vegas asap. N hire 4 ex navy seals.
@@magnetshakur no he didn’t, Pac was a rapper not a gang banger. He should’ve stayed in his lane. And even if they did leave Vegas that night they still could’ve gotten shot later on. You don’t put your hands on one period unless you are defending yourself.
@@xLaMarquis309 i disagree with u. Pac did what he had n shoulda did. Nobody gone touch somebody with ex navy seals as security Who cares if he was a rapper HE STOOD ON PRINCIPLES.
Tupac is talked about more than anyone in history with the exception of Jesus. It's almost weird at this point.
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@@913studio8 explain who do you know that is talked about more than Tupac and Jesus Christ literally?
Dead or alive. I'll wait...
@@Rondondemarco i can name you so many people, i don't even know where to start. See I'm a student of Pac, i learned so much from him and he is my all time favorite Artist acrroos Music and Acting and so much more. But you can't be serious to think that he is the most talked about person of all time. you really really wanna get into it? peace
💯 4real its corny now
@@KalmWolf84 THANK GOD for someone else saying it besides me. They have turned Tupac talk into religious mythology and folklore type of ishh. It's extremely corny now and I grew up on PAC and even met him once got the small picture signing and all but dude was just another talented brother not a Messiah. I promise people think dude was the Messiah SECRETLY. Art and Vlad think PAC was Jesus or some stuff man. Just like the fan dudes above me. These dudes turned PAC legacy corny fam. They need to let other great people have some coverage too.
So many questions! And Art didn’t asked one of them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!🤬
I love Pac to death, love his music and i think he was a great artist BUT this was on him, 100 percent. No one told him to run up on Orlando and do what he did, it was his choice. I know Pac was being loyal and i believe that pac was never a punk but there is being loyal and then there is being stupid, i don't know if pac drank a lot that night or maybe he was super hyped up after that tyson fight, it was a foolish choice. He was not a gangbanger, yes pac could hold his own probably, and he been in some scraps but the niggas he was dealing with were killers, pac was not. Once he touched Orlando it was basically bangin, he entered that territory. Pac was should of just stayed away from that mess and stayed being a rapper instead of trying to be a gangster. Frank Sinatra and Pac are similar in that they hung around gangsters but the thing is Frank was not dumb enough to get involved in the beefs lol, it would be like Frank Sinatra, who had mob ties and hung around the gambinos, just running up on a rival mobster and punching him, what do yall think would have happned to frank lol.
Man u speak the truth, but the pac worshippers gone call u a hater🤣
I agree everything you said but Pac wasn't trying to be a gangster
Excellent perspective my brother 🫡
THANK YOU 🤝👏
Facts
Why would Trey whisper in pacs ear instead of Buntry or Heron whom were certified Gs to handle that beef. Thats the craziest part.
who knows what he told pac; who knows if that’s even true: if we all standing around why am i gonna whisper in somewhere ear shit don’t make sense at all
I've said the SAME THING for years.
@@dexterisaccs545Suge and Frank were right there and said Trayvon Lame ass whispered in Pac ear.
@@MultiKadafi from the time orlando came in to the time of the fight is like 5 minutes. so you telling me he just so happen to walk in and go right where they at; and he points him out to pac and says what tho ???? that’s the nigga that took my chain ??? don’t make sense
Right
🥃 Alcohol played a major part in Pac’s decision making that night…
Alcohol plays a part in many fatal decisions. Cheers
@@Brotha00 its not talked about in the Tupac case…no cheers needed I 🚱 don’t drink. Cheers was a good show back in the day
Pac was the bread winner but acted like a crash dummy. Smh
& crashed himself out just like on JUICE😊
Breadwinner?
@@FrederickBonah The person making the money. The top guy.
Been watching Timmy Ru segments….great interview
Bro you gotta drop the full interview, I been trying to avoid these little clips and wait for the whole thing but you making that difficult G💯
Timmy told 1 to many lies 😂😂😂
them dudes didn't have no real love for Pac, and i honestly don't expect them to, they knew him under a year....but he got hit up, and he's in the hospital fighting for his life, and they hop in their cars and head right back to Compton...Theyd didn't stick around to hold Pac and his family down at the hospital. I remember Gobi and Muta saying that it was basically just the Outlaws playing the role of security for Pac when he was in the hospital.
Pac made a crash dummy move, you gotta know who you’re messing with before you decide to make a move, especially if you’re a backup dancer turned Thug Life representative.
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Your weird ass got 100+ comments hating on pac and suge
Your IQ is low. He started from the bottom and worked his way up without handouts. To go from backup dancer to the number one rapper, can’t knock the hustle. Thug life representative on steroids. He was about to unite the music industry.
@@Thaloveguyokay there crackhead grizzly, a back up dancer who shot up 2 crooked cops. Name your gangsta rapper who ever bust a gun on somebody? Yall just bunch of nobodies hating on a legend who’s known worldwide. Stay being nobody ninja
Pac was wit the sht to tho just unfortunately he got the short end of the stick
Glad to see people in the comments are pushing or chasing any conspiracy theories when it comes to the demise of one of the greatest artists of all time. It’s a tough topic to speak on, but it’s the truth. There was no sacrifice or set up. If you listened to interviews from Shock G, Money B, Napoleon, Turin Turner etc. then you will understand one thing. Pac was HUMAN. He made mistakes, just like all of us. No human being is perfect, it’s just a valuable lesson to be learned.
All true, but they just can't believe you.
It was a set up though. People in new York wanted pac dead
Pac got the same wake up call caine got at the end of menace...... dont put your hands on people
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He put his hands on several people gangsters, cops, etc. he just didn’t expect retaliation that fast and it was a crazy coincidence Orlando found him a 2nd time had 2pac worn his vest he would still be alive but he didn’t have it cause it was 2 hit that night
bingo 💯🎯Do you see the irony? If Pac didn't fight the directors + stayed in the movie to play the role they had for him, do you think the message in the movie would've prevented his death, since it's the same thing??? Crazy right!?
@@jordannorris4029 facts, all influenced by Suge = if you were Suge, would you want someone who brings-in MULTI-MILLIONS, every week for your company, to be in the streets acting like a gangster in LA, in the 90's??? That's suicide, no matter who you are, so it's obvious that Suge influenced Pac to put himself into situations he knew Pac couldn't handle, which would most likely get him killed, which is what Suge wanted ultimately, since he knew Pac was planning to leave the label soon
The guy that cane beat up came to his hood and act like he wanted to fight and cane hit him first before he could do anything.
In pacs case he just ran up on someone who was jus minding his business and gettin in a situation that had nothing to do with him.
Your editing are on point, loved it!
*your editing IS on point
Goodness
@@jflack6😂😂😂
Slight mistake. We've all been there before 🤷🏾♂️
All the Tupac stans gonna ignore or make excuses for when he said Tupac was trying to Mob himself and wanted to prove himself tryna bomb on Baby Lane like they usually do lol
Excuses like what? You just heard the man say the already accepted him. The crew he was with was Top Ryders from the Mob. He was 1 of them. For every action there is a reaction
@@cityboithumpyall project wit flying rainbowcolors😂
@@Ms.A.Matthews415-nn7huyou a idiot
Funny Mob James blamed Suge for not separating Tupac from the situation by rushing him out the door while the security "was whooping on his ass. Orlando probably would've understood that ass whooping because he know, i got some bonafides stomping up on me. Tupac take off on me, this ....... aint nothing but a rapper so i gotta get him back."
2pac a grown man and his actions cost the whole Death Row in the end…
@eazy1realg it wasn't just about his actions he was being warned not to go vegas and was getting death threats wasn't no regular gang retaliation
Banging is banging blood ...pac did what he was supposed to do....and so did Orlando...that's banging!!! It's sad AF but that's banging!!!!
I think people have switched the narrative for so long that people believe that s*** about Pac banging, but if you look at the history of that dude, all the way from the beginning up into his death even when he was running with Digital Underground people always say that dude was loyal to a fault with the people that he f***** with and always had people back in every situation and people trying to make it like he was only doing that because of death row but the dude has always been in some s***, having people's back, even before ge got on and but they ignore it, even though that was just who he was
@@f.l.mproductions928Facts Pac was too loyal
@@f.l.mproductions928foreal 💯
Banging is for gang members, Tupac wasn't one.
That ain’t what pac was supposed to do ! Son waited until he was in his mid 20s to officially start banging (when he a million dollar nigga) that was very unwise of pac his homeboys was suppose to handle that NOT PAC but it’s just an opinion literally make no sense for the million dollar cash cow to be swingin on crips ( low level crips at that ) nowhere near on pac level
This guy is cold and emotionally detached as Keffe D.
Tupac and Suge were in a BMW not a Impala🤦🏽♀️
Art: "So what do you think about the Russia and Ukraine situation?"
Timmy : "If it wasn't for Suge.. Putin wouldn't have invaded"
Wrong place clown
He wasnt trying to prove himself! He was showing what dudes do when they rock with people. He been like that.
Please STOP BLAMING SUGE for the FATAL Mistake 2PAC made. Come on Man....Suge NEVER TOLD PAC 2 get into Street Beef...Pac did that on his OWN....Suge did not encourage Pac to get into Street Politics. In fact that last pic of Pac n Suge in the car...look at Pac's face...that's cuz Suge was telling him what he did and who he did it too. Suge telling him it's on now and he gon have to be careful and get low for awhile....Plus was probably telling him he's on camera and his bail maybe revoked....that's why Pac was looking like that..because PAC REALIZED AT THAT POINT ..HE FUCKED UP!.
SAD all around the board but PLEASE STOP BLAMING SUGE FOR PAC'S HASTY DECISION!
#GARRISONRECORDZ
“ Keep it real even if it kills me “ Pac said that in 1 of his songs and that’s exactly how died keeping it to real so why Suge keep getting blamed ?
That 66 Deuce shirt must be for the club they had going on in Vegas
No it stands for mob. Suge named the club 662 after mob piru
spells out MOB on a pager or cell phone.
Which also had suge having to answer to the Donna St Crips for even making a club in Vegas with LA gang relation. Facts!
662 is MOB. Whoop
I was gonna ask was somebody from the sip..662 is their area code
I’m not feeling this dude, I’m not a crip or blood but I’m from the streets and I sense an agenda or a plot.
You are hearing what you want to hear and feeling what you want to feel 😂
Bro, on some real shyt, I'm somewhat with you on that. Something just isn't correct about this gentleman. It's too much degradation & denigrating towards Mr Knight.
Real talk here 💯
It's 100% 2pac fault
1000%
Explain
@@IdontevenknowUbut let's not forget that trevon lane whispered in 2pac's ear let's keep it all the way real😢
@@IdontevenknowU
Yea I agree he put his hands on a killa
I came to the conclusion this guy is even more bitter than James he blames sure for everything.
If that video didn’t exist, the 2Pac loyalist would say he would not have done such a thing. Well he did! And he got killed.
MOB Piru & Suge thought they were untouchable around that time & Pac didn't realize who he hit at the time!!
Shut up
3:20 Impala? Hummm ok. I thought it was a BMW.
Same thing I was thinking 💯
If Tupac wasn't so drunk that night, it never would have happened. I've watched video of that night several times. Before he took off fast
he had a drunk walk
This dude’s memory is kind of fuzzy from the events that night. 2Pac died a week later, not a day or two. And 2Pac and Suge was riding in a BMW, not an impala.
He thinkin about big
He simply misspoke on a small detail. He was definitely in Vegas with the Deathrow team.
It doesn't matter, you know what he means
A couple of days can mean a week from his point of view
The white impala was the car they drove to Vegas in.
2 Pac was out of control
Yes, unfortunately. No figure father to put him right. Although I heard that he never listened to no one
He thought it was studio.
@@markrobby7136of course you heard. You gon hear a lot of things about him as he said.
Tupac forgot the director from juice yelled cut! 😅
Absolutely
2PAC GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME 💪💯😎 📻📻
😂😂😂😂
@@ElijahHardaway what’s so funny?
Greatest deceiver of all time 😅
@@IdontevenknowU ok puff
@@IdontevenknowU your obsession with 2pac is obvious but you talk bad about him
When will people start holding 2Pac accountable for his own decisions? It’s not like he was a invalid , we’re talking about someone who had a college education here
They cant!...They're 2nd,3rd generation Pac fans..
he can't do no wrong in their eyes
College education ???
Pac was an high school dropout, how do you consider that college educated?
@@youngcity42412pac never went to college 😂
Yep… starting a fight at a major boxing venue with cameras everywhere was just not smart
All I can say is Tupac did what many people today are still doing being faithful and loyal to people that not going to match your energy.. the best thing for people to do nowadays is be faithful and loyal to yourself and the hell with everybody else..
Tupac was wild!! But, being under this type of connection and mindset, shit got out of control.. Pa will always be my dawg
Plus everyone was hyped up from the Tyson fight
2Pac was going back to prison so game over he ain't as innocent as y'all think he is!
@@ChrisSanchez-z3sNobody said he was innocent, he for sure was goin back to jail for the beatdown
@@carmelobaxter5801stop cappin 4 studi0gangzters😂
@user-hk8ym5cr5o true, for violation.. but his talent would never die..
Suge ain’t have shit to do with that. Dude who almost got his chained snatched at the mall by Orlando walked over to a dude next to Pac to tell him who Orlando was, pac overheard it and took off. Stop blaming everything on Suge
art thanks for keep on bringing the resl 2pac true stroies keep them comeing thsnks huge fan of this platform
How you gon blame another man for his actions, that a grown man.
FINALLY...The Realest perspective thus far.
He must be one of the dudes that ended up broke
Suge broke too
@@mariojaime3035 he ain’t crying like this clown
Tru
Tutupac owed suge all of hiz pocket change too😅
Suge don't owe yall anything yall were paid , driving cars ,going to events really you should have been paid by the hour and filing a W2
Right pac was riding for the set riding for the Piru he ain’t blaming Suge but 2pac definitely got caught up in suge mess fasho
Tupac looked at it his beefs is mines and my beefs are his but street beefs is way different than music beefs
Speak on it Brotha Timmy Ru, One!!😎😎😎
You should be ashamed of yourself doing interviews about Tupac while your threatening to sue the people that was a part of his team
Stay out of other folks business. It doesn't concern you and you don't even have all the facts, jabroni.
Get off bomb 1st nuts
Aye Art when y'all talk to the pirus about Pac how come y'all don't ever ask them about the good memories of Pac?
Pac look so scared on that last photo of him. It's telling that he was feeling death coming to him
Why he didn’t wear his bullet proof vest when he was scared?
Yes his facial expression says it all.
@@misters.4282someone gave him a false sense of security.😅
When. Keep it real goes wrong, the actor overreacting lol
@@misters.4282Originally, he was supposed to wear it. Kidada even told him to wear one, but he said “It’ll be too hot”.
We Pac fans tend to blame everybody but him : Suge, Travon, Frank Alexander... At the end of the day. It was Pac mistake & only his. Let's face it
Bad teeth run in the family
Crazy they both named Lane. Orlando and treyvon
I blame everyone that was there that night In Vegas
You have to Protect the Bagg I was 19 in 96 @RipTupacShakur✊🏽👑🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐🌎💯
Krazy part is Orlando & 2Pac look like brothers
Yeeeah it would be Pacs fault in the long run. He knew there would be reprecussions. He knew the streets. He didnt give a crap. He always said he wasnt going back.
Finally, I have been waiting for his interview. Damn he looked so much like his brother Buntry. This dude was funny.
This dude loses credibility in the simple fact he can’t understand a WEEK LATER and a couple days is massively different 😅😂 🤣 The interviewer tried to help him and he STILL FK’d up details 🤦♂️ Bruh … stop 🤣
Art: He died a week later... Tim: Yeah a couple days later 😂
A week consists of a couple of days. Both are correct, stop laughing
He was loyal to a fault.
Well suge didn’t know no better he wasn’t from the streets
Free Suga Bear...
Nope!
Fa real! Like right now! 💯 and fuck the haters!
Why did Orlando yell “f your money” after the jumping
Because Suge and them thought they were untouchable because he had money.
SUPERFACTS TIMMY RU
PAC WAS DEFINITELY SHOWING LOYALTY TO ANYONE THAT WAS IN CIRCLE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE JUST WASN'T READY FOR PAC'S CHARACTER AND HOW HE HAD CARRIED HIMSELF AND IT'S CRAZY TO SEE SOME OF THE SAME THAT KNEW HIM ARE REWRITING HISTORY IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND SOME OF THEM ARE EVEN SHOWING DIFFERENT ENERGY VIBES BUT WHO KNOWS I COULD WRONG
@Johnthoo1 Facts I blame Trevon Lane he should've handled it himself not get tuoac and I blame Suge
Should've showed loyalty to those white folks that raised him in Baltimore 😅
@@darnellwilliams8783Blame Suge, because he's the boss. Trevon did nothing wrong.
@@IdontevenknowU clown
@@obdanny2000 suge was a fake piru
You can feel T Ru’s pain talking about Pac
So why Pac didn’t jump on Biggie when he was making that huge scene outside the Soul Train awards?
I was there that night at The Shrine, when the cars pulled up at the back entrance of the building. I saw the two groups, there was screaming stuff yelling. The Muslims were managing security and checking credentials at the press entrance door. We were pushed inside the building and the building was locked down. The show would go on a bit later.
Fruit of Islam got in the middle of both camps to prevent a tragedy
Pac was too hyped after the Tyson fight he had no business attacking a nobody
Homie speaking out of bitterness with limited facts
James said the same thing about the crew. Said they all were about that life and really got down
Death Row was an embarrassment.
Tbh like as a kid that shit sounded cool asf to be around but as a adult them fools was Rich and still crashing out
No it wasn't. Hood Politics. Death row, back then was & still is the greatest hip hop/rap label ever.
Thnx to an embarrassing studi0g lik pac
The question is why was Orlando waiting on them like that. Mobb James said Orlando was taunting them too.
thank u 🤦🏾♂️ people wanna put the blame on pac so bad as if he just started all this. orlando had no business lurking by mob territory in vegas that night
Diddy most likely
People keep acting like 2pac was out of line, which he was, but he lived in Los Angeles his whole career, his family lived in Atlanta and he only went to New York for court and business, he knew about how the gang life was, he was just about that life, Suge couldn't control him like he controlled the other artists.
You're wrong af lol Pac was from NY his first Rap name was MC New York. Go watch a Pac Documentary lol
Tupac was from New York repeat after me stans new york! Just like 69 he was a buster from over there 😅
You're wrong, Mandy
@@IdontevenknowUb.s lie he definitely was not a buster
@@IdontevenknowU but wack from over there and was wit 69 homey
I agree, first rule of business, protect your investment!!!
The way I see it everyone is responsible for losing pac including pac. The MOB and Suge thought they were untouchable around that time.
The main one was the guy who went and told PAC about Orlando. If not for him nothing would’ve happened.
Pac lost against a cripkid younger than u and me lol
@@chrisconnors9449 I wouldn't say tht...them crips would've sensed pacs studi0gangster vibe and delete him anywayy😂
@@KeefeDAnderson possibly.. they might have been there to shoot at them anyway
You can't control how anyone reacts to any adversities or circumstances
Napoleon saying that Tupac was acting strange right before he died giving away all his jewelry and that eearie pic of him in the BMW tell's me Pac must've felt something
Maybe its what pac wanted
Psychologists cite this as one of the warning signs of suicidality. Tupac was passively suicidal.
@@airmanbooker i agree
I said its Suge Knight fault for Tupac attacking Orlando Anderson. Go and watch that Video from Los Vegas. Suge Knight he told Tupac to attack Orlando Anderson.. Slow the video down..
Somebody gotta come along and match 2pac’s greatness or sum cuz he been gone 30 years and still the biggest topic of discussion…
There’s plenty of other discussions. It just depends what you are in to. Lots of other topics get way more views.
He coming. Believe that.
It's tupac worship. I had to call my homie out on that a couple of days ago. Smdh.
@@357twilson not about anybody from the 90s😂
@@noahrkisttheegyptian6642Lol
He aint the 1st to blame SK
Suge did not allow pac to act out, pac acted out on his own without warning. When will y’all blame pac for his recklessness? We are all fans but the man moved with reckless abandon
Suge put Deathrow Records and is artist in an environment that caused harm to the label and artist on the label, including Pac.
Shutup
Idk about that ! it looks too obvious.
I'm a pac fan and I can still admit that he caused his own death.
@@jeremywashington7699either way pac was getting death threats and being warned not to go to Vegas it wasn't no regular gang retaliation
Pac was a great talent he was misguided and he was always surrounded by people but ultimately he was alone
If SS crips didn't do it that night, someone else would've eventually put Pac down... it was his destiny
That’s real. Even if they hadn’t caught up with them that night, SouthSide would have been a threat for months afterwards.
U sound extra stupid
And you can’t have it both ways. He is saying PAC should have never being involved at the gang level (I agree) but why did your gang accept him on that level, knowing that he was not about that life. Suge is partially to blame for encouraging him, but so are the members of the Piro who knew he was unproven, a celebrity, and basically accepted because of his fame.