RESCINDED: Lakers Cancel Deal With Hornets After Mark Williams Physical
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- The Charlotte Hornets thought they had a deal sending Mark Williams to the Lakers, but after a failed physical, he's back-and now the team has some big decisions to make. What does this mean for the Hornets’ future and their frontcourt rotation? Catch our live reaction on Locked On Hornets!
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Laker fan here, this is probably one of the better locked on podcasts in regards to the nba, definitely worth a sub :)
Facts 💜💛
Lakers were in severe need of a Center and rescinded the trade. That shows how bad Mark Williams physicals were. That public statement is gaslighting to the max.
@@BloomsArchitect yeah, gaslighting. I allow you complete access to do your own physical and the option to opt out if he doesn't pass it and yet am hiding something from you and lying about my intentions.
Get out of here. That doesn't even make sense. Pelinka made a dumb deal and is trying to save face. Because LA is the bigger market with more fans, their narrative is the one that's going to be believed. Welcome to the world of never getting the actual truth. Y'all are the problem believing Pelinka is a good GM because dallas gave them Luka.
another Lakers fan here, I just have to say your podcast is excellent. You remind me a lot of Trevor from Lakers nation you guys should get together and have a chat on his network. I love your balanced and honest commentary. Keep on doing what you're doing and maybe one day at the Hornets will be relevant again. But anyway, you are really good at what you do.
Backhanded compliment
@ kind of , yeah. But look at teams like OKC and the Cavaliers, having been rebuilt now but .They we're not relevant for quite a while. Even though the Hornets aren't relevant right now they may be in the future, if they do things right they very well could be. The way the NBA is currently structured smaller market teams have a better chance.
As a Lakers fan I listened to your chat with the Kam brothers a few day ago, you were amazing regarding your honest evaluation of Williams as a Hornet, good work..Lol Maybe Lakers management heard that interview as well..
@@hilamadventures4060 Maybe we all should have pretended we thought we got fleeced 😂
@@StarveilYTyeah we really shot ourselves in the foot here 😅
@@StarveilYTyeah we really shot ourselves in the foot here 😅
The league needs to put in a 10 day window after the trade deadline to renegotiate assets when failed physicals happen.
Simple fix. Initiate the trade 10 days before the deadline and there wont be any issues
Hornets released the MOST ABSURD POST I'VE EVER SEEN ON ON THEIR PAGE, thats awful pr for you organization, after, LA/CH trade
dallas tried to rescind the caleb martin trade this deadline too (and they also knew about his injury), sixers had to throw in a second round pick after the deal was already made.
Nba is a clown show and losing money .. salary caps need to be enforced
I hope this is a motivation for Mark to get better
It's not even about getting better. It's about getting healthy.
Get better how? If his body isn't healthy enough long term?
Lakers fan here who just became a big fan. Awesome pod I'll be tuning in more!
Failing a physical at 23 yrs old is not good. Must have a lot of problems. But to me, the more egregious part is that Charlotte was trying to give him away, knowing he had all these problems.
It's like trying to sell a lemon car, and you know it has a lot of problems, but the car salesman doesn't reveal all the problems.
@@LCG3003 bro. Everyone knew he had back and foot issues and a previous thumb issue. The Lakers knew it too.
Bro, I'm in no way a hornets fan, but you're such a good podcaster that you got a sub from me.
".....After the other team aggressively pursued Mark...." This is complete BS. Every single report reveal that it was Charlotte who initiated contact with the Lakers. Nobody had any idea that this guy was even available. The Charlotte front office is just trying to save faith because they were trying to be underhanded by dumping off a player who they knew was much more injured than they revealed. And probably have been playing this guy while injured in order to bolster his trade value.🤷🏿
Just throwing it out there, it doesn't really say that the Lakers were the initiators in negotiations, it just says that they "pursued aggressively". They could have done that after initial contact.
In all fairness, their are no national pundits that speak for the hornets. However, the Lakers have several. So, of course they are going to get their side out to the public on a national stage.
Trading Knecht, Reddish, 1st round pick, and swap is a pretty aggressive offer. Just saying...
"The other team aggressively pursuing" him doesn't mean the Lakers called first. The Hornets could have called first and said he was on the table, but the Lakers "aggressively pursued" him by throwing the Hornets an offer they couldn't refuse.
Everyone knew Mark had injury issues and the Lakers still tried to go for it so close to the deadline.
They tried to fleece the Lakers and it backfired 😂
This podcast has done a remarkable job covering this team. Anyone that watches this show knows how closely Mark Williams Play/injury has been documented by this podcast & the hornets front office. The fans trying to slander this podcast like it was a scam trading mark williams is crazy... Prove it in court. This podcast has 40-45 podcasts detailing the extent of his injury. these fans are capping B.s... lol
The Lakers didn’t blow up the trade because they didn’t wanna be in the trade anymore, it’s because the hornets hid vital injury information from the Lakers. I don’t even know how people would do trades with Charlotte anymore given that major breaching trust. This put the Lakers in a terrible position.
I don't think the Hornets tried to hide anything. It's more likely Mark himself was hiding an injury from the Hornets after being out so much last year. He was playing at the time of the trade, if he was known to be injured I doubt a tanking Charlotte would have played him.
That doesn't make any sense. How can you hide injuries to a player you agreed to be allowed a full physical before processing? They wouldn't have agreed to that if they knew he was damaged or thought it mattered.
Lakers knew about his injuries and Mark is currently playing. This is all on Lakers FO for even agreeing to the stupid deal. They realized how dumb they were and got out of it.
@@JBly4 I think it’s more likely. The Lakers desperately needed a center and it was the last day of the deadline and I wouldn’t be surprised if they thought that the Lakers would’ve move forward with him regardless of his injury. It’s a no lose for the Hornets in the short run. But if I was a front office, I wouldn’t trade with them unless I was absolutely certain and I wouldn’t trade with them at the deadline
@@Alex90210alex You're believing an LA narrative when you have no evidence of it. That's rash and unwise. No one who did 2 seconds of research would be surprised by Mark Williams physical. It's poor GM ing by Rob. If you want to hold a team responsible for your team's poor research then you can certainly do that. Bad way to live life though in my opinion. Assuming the worst in others without evidence ain't right.
As Lakers fan, I was looking forward to Mark Williams catching passes from Luka and dunking. But now listening to this report, I am more concerned about his health. Hopefully they didn’t find something too chronic or more serious (e.g Sean Elliot). I assume whatever the Lakers doctors saw, they have to share with Hornets doctors and they would need to pursue that further.
As a Laker fan, thank you for giving such a great breakdown of this issue. Also, one of the best Locked On channels I've seen regarding analysis and professional vibe.
Lakers fan here. I was sad giving Dalton but excited for mark. This might be beyond basketball. Hope mark’s health is good. Health is more important than basketball
The type of center the lakers were looking at changed with Luka so there was no doing this weeks before. What looks most concerning is if its true the Hornets initated the talks for this at the final hours and possibly knew some of the health issues
Mark Williams-- should someone with a foot injury be instructed by the team to gain weight? Shouldn’t the approach be stay as light as possible, while working on flexibility? Not been expressed by the locked on NBA daily structure , but your style , candor is muchly impressive.
Lakers fan here, so happy the trade got canceled. I freaking love Knecht. Good luck to you guys!
As a 77 year old, like the fact that you actually wear snappy t-shirts instead of the faded, worn ones so many podcasters are comfortable with. Just a hit of professionalism with the clothing 👍👍👍
Concerns me about the Hornets medical staff. Were we aware of these other medical issues? Seems like for years there have been concerns about Hornets medical but nothing concrete.
I honestly feel like our medical staff is not really that good
Sounds like a case where Mark is healthy enough in the short term, but the Lakers had long term concerns. Since they are giving up big future pieces, they could take that risk.
I feel like the Lakers were told about everything and got cold feet after it was already accepted. Hornets probably already know about everything and told them about it but the Lakers were desperate so they accepted the trade but sat on it for a couple days and realized it was stupid.
I watched a few games of Mark playing after the trade and when I called out His flaws I got killed in the comments my lakers fans 😂
I WOULD NOT RESIGN HIM IF I AM CHARLOTTE
YOU DONT WANT A PLAYER NOBODY WANTS BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU EVER TRADE THEM IF YOU WANTED TO
This guy really knows his team and the nba. He came on as a guest on locked on lakers and it’s embarrassing how much more ball he knew than our guy 😂. Shout out to NC, food lion, bojangles and cheerwine 🙌
Sun drop and liver muss and home of best basketball players ever.
But can't field a team but of 7 players who suck
It's funny how small markets complain about people not knowing about them and then you make a comment about Ramona having a Lakers bias, that's funny.
Jeff Peterson’s Rookie of the Year run was going so well too…
The Lakers have the worst medical staff in sports. There is no way the Hornets were not aware of anything the crappy Lakers staff found in 5 mins
You got it twisted buddy. The hornets are the ones with the crappy medical staff 😂😂😂😂
@@islandboy6466 lol or maybe two things can be true at the same time
The lakers are more worried about getting a center
Awesome development; happy to have Mark back and grow into a dominate big.
I mean the fact he couldn’t pass a physical should give us very serious concerns.
We love the prospect, age, and fit of Mark Williams. I seriously doubt it was buyers remorse. We are looking to win now, to pull a stunt and possibly throw the season out is not how the Lakers function. Unless 😅, some center passed word down to LA that he will come this summer. But I can’t imagine we’d toss a season like that.
I feel for Mark
@marywilson3950 this rescinded trade is going to follow Mark for the rest of his career.
@Hooderaw he's a millionaire that barely played lmao feel sorry
As a lakers fan im mad for the hornets you have to ask has mark williams been injured this whole time ? Maybe the bad play over the last month is due to an injury that didnt fully heal
As a Laker Fan.. THANK GOD… Don’t want to see K4 leave LA.
So did he get hurt on the flight to LA?
He was getting double doubles before the trade. If he’s not healthy enough to play for the Lakers, how’s he healthy enough to play for us?
I think the Lakers got buyers remorse, they’ve won the 2 recent games since the trade deadline.
They've won alot of games since ad got injured and traded.. plus christie. They won without knechts bench points, they just won last night without Lebron. It's not buyers remorse, they wanted Williams. Either the Hornets didn't find something the Lakers did, or the Hornets are/ were aware of the injury that wasn't on medicals. If the Hornets start him & play him 30+ minutes a game when he clearly isnt healthy then the nba players association needs to go after the Hornet & the NBA needs to investigate the Hornets.
@@Seahawks360 the Lakers had buyers remorse. Everyone knew Mark had back issues and that he missed the earlier part of the season for a foot injury. I think the Lakers watched film and just decided they didn't want to give up that much for him.
@Hooderaw They wanted him, he clearly has some other health issues that the Hornets didn't know about or don't care about and want his grade value to be high. Instead of spreading conspiracy theories why dont you look at the facts, and maybe hold your favorite nba team accountable for saying they will start someone the Lakers wouldnt.
lol u talked about him so bad LA sent him back to u lol
Damn i thought we could get away from this dude
Hornets is never fail……… to disappoint their fans
NBA should make a new rule when something like this happens after the deadline that they are allowed to amend the original contract 1 time to make it work. This just puts both teams in an unfavorable situation.
There hasnt been a single reoort saying the Lakers pursued Mark, everything reported was the Hornets came to the Lakers with the trade & wanted knecht.
Lakers need to be investigated the Luka deal has stink all over it
@Guitarman-57 That stink is the mavericks for coming to the Lakers offering up Luka for AD, Christie & the 1st
This is bad for the Hornets no matter how this all transpired. Hornets brass need to get out front of this with something more than a a weak welcome back statement. Both organizations better be careful with their comments as Mark and his representatives may decide he has been financially damaged with regards to his future value. The only saving grace is the fact that Nurkic will split minutes with Mark to limit the wear and tear on his body extending his career.
Reversing this trade is a blessing in disguise if Mark can get healthy and stay healthy.
No one wins.. I feel for Mark. Hopefully he can prove everyone wrong & overcome his injury issues, come back healthy and stronger than ever.
32:05 definitely here. Needed an honest assessment of Williams
Notice hornets media & fans all trashed mark Williams on his way out the door you haven’t heard no lakers media say nothing bad about dalton on his way out so we know who really mad
We didn't trash him, we were being honest about him looking different. Sounds like the Lakers agreed with us.
Not all fans. I am so stoked to have him back. He is easily better than Dalton and a late first to me. I think he should be our center for the next ten years. Hopefully there is not bad blood now
If the comment of "We welcome him to rejoin at the Starting Center position" means "we are playing him immediately," it sounds like they are hinting that the Lakers are lying or exaggerating.
lol why would the lakers lie or exaggerate, they need a center so bad, mark is so much better than hayes lol, why would they want to cancel this deal, lakers are screwed.
@@rgncal4872 why indeed, Mark was playing good minutes the past two months. Injury history was public knowledge, and presumably he's still good to play currently.
Hornets might have to look into the training staff again this offseason bc all these injuries are ridiculous & continuously happening
Lakers fan here. Great breakdown!
Thanks, Doug. Locked on Hornets is the best!
Laker fan base is only mad at the hornets trying to swindle us lol
Laker fan. Hornets fans should be embarrassed with your leadership. What a rinky dink organization.
They are worse then mj these new owners are a joke.
Let’s break down the assets that the Hornets originally got for Mark
Dalton Knect = solid prospect but can’t guard a chair. In no way will he ever be a “3 and D” player that some Hornets were clamoring. He’s a player whose skill set we’ll find again.
2030 pick swap = When was the last time the Hornets finished with a better record than the Lakers?
Cam Reddish = Anyone excited about getting Cam Reddish hasn’t seen Cam Reddish play basketball since he was at Duke.
Unprotected 2032 1st = This is the 1 asset that I was excited about.
Bottom line. Mark Williams for a 2031 1st and a bunch of replaceable assets was never the home run it was made out to be
Sincerely,
- A Mark Williams fan
If you haven’t noticed the anemic offense that coach Lee wants to pursue requires us to have good shooters and guys that can create their own shots. Knecht gives us both of those things and Mark gives us neither and isn’t even the super athletic big man he used to be after all the injuries and the weight gain.
Laker fan here…Although we were giving up more than needed, I really wanted this trade to happen. If they saw something that can’t affect mark’s longevity, it’s definitely not worth the trade. By the way, great podcast!
Lakers fan here, maybe they renegotiate on price in the summer since they can't amend the deal
This summer a lot more valuable centers will be available
Idk why but I still want Williams 😂 his ceiling is just to high, I’m down for the risks
The Hornets FO is a joke at this point (the other team) how old are they??!!! Are they simply gonna ignore the scam they tried to pull and not mention anything about the reasons this deal got cancelled?
Exactly
Nahh laker get everything they want…Hornets don’t owe them an apology..maybe if lakers didn’t wait till the last minute they could have gotten a better deal somewhere else
@ You won't be keeping the same energy if another team tried to scam you with their damaged goods then acted this petty, though I agree about LA waiting too long, but that is irrelevant in this context.
Im happy because my gem is back ❤
Bol Bol trade to Pistons from Nuggets in 2022 failed as well due to medicals and was rescinded.
Doug, I love you and Walker been listening for YEARS, but sure as shit doesn't help when everytime you opened your mouth about Mark these past two weeks you've been shitting all over him and aggressively being proud of the "fleecing" of the Lakers :/
The fact that it hasn’t come out that the Lakers are upset with the Hornets tells me that the Lakers are in the wrong here. If we tried to hide something then the Lakers would’ve made it known especially now that they don’t have a center for the rest of the season and they’re trying to be a championship team.
Lakers fan here, I feel like the lakers definitely regretted this trade, better to use that first in the summer. They probably found some issues with the physical, but they wanted out of this
Lakers Fan here, lol looks like we flooded your channel.
I was bummed to hear DK being traded to Charlotte , ( he talented, hes a shoooootrr) sooo glad we get our rook back. Only other player to do this was KOBE 💜 . Good luck to Mark Williams . Ok chao.
Lakers fan here. The Lakers enjoy trading away shooting and then complain about lack of shooting. So I’m happy to have Kenecht43. Hated to watch Max Christie leave but at least it wasn’t for an aging star.
Lakers medical staff looked at 2 things: 1) known injuries and if the prognosis received from the Hornets is true and 2) something new that is significant (meaning potentially chronic) Reports are that there were new potentially chronic issues that were found while doing the medical with a relatively high probability.
Im a hornets fan for only 3 yrs and I was excited Mark got traded! Now i feel devastated and it feels gross. I just want this to go away!
Lakers fan here. We are not upset. If anything we are thrilled to get our players and picks back. You guys tried to Rob us.
How come you didn’t react to the Hornets vs. Spurs game? People are saying it’s the game of the year. I was there and it was the best NBA game ive ever seen in person. Put out a video on jt
They usually only do shows Monday thru Friday. They'll probably cover it tomorrow. This was an emergency live show because of the trade being rescinded.
Laker fan here, this also shows how incompetent our FO is, why would you even try to trade for someone with a injury history like that? and then to give up everything you gave its just a bad move all around
I'm fairly certain Mark hasn't had a major surgery since his time in Charlotte. Injuries happen, it's major surgeries that tend to change a players projection. Would love to know what really happened, but Mark was actively playing at the time of the trade.
I’d be much more inclined to believe that the Lakers got cold feet if we didn’t already know Mark has injury problems
The hornets really tried to finesse😭 the hornets reached out to the lakers first bruh
This is the most hornets thing ever …. I genuinely think knecht comes a 24pt a night player. SMH
Can he guard a chair though?
Charlotte pro sports are so depressing.
Hornets suck yesterday, today, tomorrow, and forevermore.
Lakers realized they fd up. Knecht is a stud… they changed their mind and fd us is how I feel. I can’t even explain how mad I am. Knecht is one of my favorite players that I wanted us to draft rather than Salaun….. smh
Charlotte has no choice but to sign him to an extension now. Imagine the visual that you told the Lakers that he was worth multiple first-round draft picks or swaps, but he's not healthy enough for you yourself to sign him to an extension? That will all but prove that they knew he was damaged goods and tried to pawn him off... Dirty work.. 🤦🏿♂️
Everybody knew about the back, foot and thumb. I'm positive the Lakers knew about that. I just think they looked at the film after Doug ripped mark williams on locked on Lakers and they changed their minds. (Just joking, doug).
Technically it’s two 1st Rd picks if you count Knecht
Bro acting like he wasn’t over the moon after they dumped Mark on us.
Lakers fan who has been watching locked on hornets for over a year now because Walker and Doug are awesome (still miss Doug’s long hair). I can say personally that this sucks. Me and many others were really excited about having Mark. I want to know exactly why the Lakers failed Mark during the physical because we now have Jaxson Hayes and two way players for center depth. 🤦🏽♂️
what a petty franchise Lamelo needs to get out of that toxic shithole
You are right, he needs to be sent away. The team is bad because (all) the the starters are always hurt. And Lamelo is ALWAYS hurt and therefore not worth the money he gets to play 10 games a year. The team, in the long term, will be better off with someone else they can get for him.
I wish melo would he's Mr streetcloths
No idea Hornets had enough fans to warrant a podcast
We been here just not happy 😂
They have to play Mark the rest of the season, hope for health and production, then deal him for the best return over the office season
I would want out as soon as I could if i was Mark crazy SMMFH
We don't want him he needs to retire
Adam Morrison podcast 😂😂😂
This needs to be investigated by the league. If they find wrongdoing by either Club the other one should have to compensate the other one because both teams have been hurt by this debacle.
As a Lakers fan I'm hoping LA got wind of something better available in the summer and decided to fail Mark
I hope this for my Lakers and for Williams
could be similar to pursuing a romantic interest only after they express interest first
thank u i am a lakers fan
A week ago lakers not trading for mark, they traded for him because of luka/AD trade.
Beer is my SB food, but I am not watching the SB
Last thing I want to do is watch a team I despise be the first in pro sports to win 3 in a row since my Lakers
we have no more Center problem! look at the brightside
How do you think this affects how much mark will be getting after his contracts up. Obviously he won't be getting the same bag if this deal with the lakers never happened
FOOT INJURY'S ARE A BIG ISSUE
WALTON, MING, RETIRED DUE TO FOOT INJURIES
WE ARE GIVING UP TWO FIRST ROUND PICKS DALTON WAS A FIRST ROUNDER AND THE PICK
Lakers fan here - I was really looking forward to seeing Mark play in LA, and wish the NBA provided an amendment window for deadline deals.
Good luck to Mark and the Hornets! Was a big fan of the LJ+Mourning Hornets and hope you guys win the Cooper Flagg lottery to pair with LaMelo and Miller! Really appreciated your neutral and honest POV - keep up the good work!
THE LAKERS HAD BUYERS REMORSE
THEY JUST CHANGED THEIR MINDS AND PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER TRADE IN THE OFFSEASON
THE NBA SHOULD MAKE THEM TAKE THE TRADE
Pelinka listened to your interview with locked on lakers and how you trashed Mark Williams thinking charlotte fleeced the lakers and rescinded the trade. So thank you from the L.A. fanbase , good job 😂
And you guys have Jaxson Hayes as your starting center for the playoffs in the western conference 😂 great job
Was thinking the same thing. Thank u locked on hornets guy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I resent the incompetence point. It sounds like sour grapes. Do you really think we didn’t have a big man because we simply weren’t looking for one? Lol
The deal sounded 2 good 2 be true. Their is a reason Rob put that stipulation in the trade deal.
Lakers had buyer's remorse... They knew exactly what they were getting.
Someone is mad lol. Or there were more concerns that were brought to life. Probably not but. If you want to be petty 😂
THAT'S WHY THEY TAKE PHYSICALS!!+
@@icon_no_cap_anthony4238he’s played less than 100 games in his 3 years in the NBA. If that’s not a giant medical red flag I don’t know what is.
Yeah, they knew what they were getting. That's why they said he failed the physical based on unrelated known health issues
@@BlueDawg-e6x The LEAGUE will take a look!!!
As a Lakers fan, I was listening to your podcast a few days ago that you guys were laughing about that the Lakers think they got a good rim protector. We'll, we can send him back to you, and you can enjoy your rim protector now.😅😂😅
Hornets FO knew that and tried to fleece the Lakers. It's not happening. Give us DK and our picks back.
This guy in particular was annoying with how gloomy his forecast on Mark was. The other guy kinda loved Mark so was cool. I still would have loved to have Mark. I pray he has a relatively injury-free career.
@@hectorrosado5807 lol
You must have missed when the Laker nation brothers laugh Everytime they mention Charlotte and when Trevor from Lakers nation consistently rags on the hornets whenever they come up. It's what these guys do, get over it. Laker fans complaining about someone trying to fleece is the real hilarity.
That’s not hornets they thought he was something he’s not Doug has been saying Marks defense isn’t the best for a while now
@JBly4 Not happening brother, get your injured player back
And, good luck trying to trade him for a good player or draft compensation.
Lakers had buyer remorse thus pull this shit there should be an investigation
We got rid of Micic and got a 1st for Nurkic so that's still a win, regardless of the Mark situation.
That deal isn't going through either we played with 6.5 players against Detroit what a joke the fo is for hornets just fold the coach don't have a clue