Polybrute 12 Review // 3 reasons why FullTouch is a breakthrough for expressive control // Tutorial

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    TIMELINE:
    0:00 Intro
    1:55 vs PolyBrute
    3:55 I/O & PBC
    4:45 The keybed
    5:55 Key history
    7:40 The others
    8:20 FullTouch
    9:40 FullTouch AT mode
    10:20 AT and Z mode
    11:40 Env and AT mode
    13:15 Env A & D
    13:45 Env S & R
    15:10 Env Velocity
    16:50 Env AT
    17:20 Mod env
    17:45 Env tests
    19:45 MIDI & MPE
    22:25 MPE tips
    23:45 Pros, cons
    27:50 Presets
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  • @pascaljean2333
    @pascaljean2333 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +246

    Arturia marketing: how much to spend on advertising?
    Arturia: just send it to loopop.

    • @michelnassarofficial
      @michelnassarofficial 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      😂😂😂

    • @avetisk
      @avetisk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      💯

    • @valdir7426
      @valdir7426 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      to loopop and a dozen other synth youtubers; yeah that's pretty much how they do a lot of their marketing.

    • @SyntheticFuture
      @SyntheticFuture 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I have seen it on at least 5 or 6 channels time 4 grand + shipping + they pay these creators. Cheaper than TV advertising but still considerable money ;)

    • @gregorykulinski2186
      @gregorykulinski2186 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was thinking that I might be short of hands fingers . Waiting what Alex Ball and mylardmelidies will do and well there is Jay Hoskins who makes fantastic melodies and wll don't forget about Nick from sonicstate and Ben hmmm many mooore...
      Ok let's enjoy.​@valdir7426

  • @christdolphin69
    @christdolphin69 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    transient control with fulltouch plus eg velocity is unreal and we need it on every synth. incredible work arturia

  • @Jexus
    @Jexus 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +49

    Warm-sounding synth and a barbecue grill in one. I want.

    • @roruidos
      @roruidos 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Arturia, if you want to make a good thing even better, send one to this man right now

    • @patrickfitzgerald2861
      @patrickfitzgerald2861 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      😆🤣😅👍👍👍

    • @shehzadamurthy1983
      @shehzadamurthy1983 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Holy hell, it's Jexus..the man, the myth!

    • @jeshkam
      @jeshkam 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Jexus Maria, a ja myślałem, że bogowie nie komentują na innych kanałach. 😂

    • @WtfYoutube_YouSuck
      @WtfYoutube_YouSuck 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I believe I could make quality jerky with this thing

  • @robertsutton7949
    @robertsutton7949 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +132

    Big day in the synth world

    • @paulbisanti1535
      @paulbisanti1535 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Seriously!

    • @michelnassarofficial
      @michelnassarofficial 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Isn’t it?? :D

    • @kitespongan
      @kitespongan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think the last 10 years really. It’s a renaissance or golden age 😮

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You can run your Polybrute 12's left output into Spectravox, and right output into NTS-3. Now I have to go look - what else was introduced today?

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Oh shizz, Voltage Lab 2...

  • @orchidsvoid
    @orchidsvoid 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +45

    Jeez mate, 3 videos in a row - you spoil us too much ❤

    • @loopop
      @loopop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      My pleasure! No more for today but you never know perhaps one more is coming…

    • @Peetronius
      @Peetronius 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loopopnew oberheim for example 😀

    • @lpearson88gmail
      @lpearson88gmail 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      His schedule is determined by embargos 😉

    • @stinkypete9070
      @stinkypete9070 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loopopooo hope it’s that TEO 5

    • @RobertoVoidRizzi
      @RobertoVoidRizzi 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Peetronius new leaked semimodular moog ;)

  • @PanopticMotion
    @PanopticMotion 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +33

    I hope they incorporate this keybed into their premium 88-key controller or perhaps a new controller altogether. Edit -- Ha! I just heard you say the same thing at the end of the video.

    • @mortenjorck
      @mortenjorck 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Seriously. It would be amazing if this were the beginning of a new KeyLab FT family and a FullTouch-enabled Pigments 6.

    • @ET2carbon
      @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yeah I'm amazed they just released another board that didn't have this tech built into that one. Wth?

  • @echobenav8
    @echobenav8 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Wonderful review! Very comprehensive and compelling. This is the synth actually delivers on the hoopla they built up around Astrolab.

  • @AndreaPessino
    @AndreaPessino 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

    Unbelievable - I was all in when I thought all they added were 6 voices and polyat. This is so much more - most exciting synth in ages. I already had my order in, now I know why. 😆

  • @mr.katnip1513
    @mr.katnip1513 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This is the only Time I’ve ever wanted to see the same video back to back; exciting times INDEED!! 😇

  • @MrVoonix
    @MrVoonix 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    This might be now the most expressive synth ever. Morphe touch controller, touch strip, the amazing MPE keyboard and all the other amazing features.
    For me the synth already has the best sequencer ever in a synth, great effects, is super intuitive to use, has knobs for everything, its morphing feature is very unique for an analog synth, it has modulation recording, an amazing interactive, innovative arpeggiator und a great modulation matrix.
    The only feature I’m missing for the most perfect synth ever, is a digital oscillator from Minifreak (that includes all the engines from Mutable Instruments Plaits). That would also make it more comparable to the Osmose and its engine. - Except that it isn't that portable for travelling and clearly a studio synth.
    Arturia keeps innovating. For me they are one of the leading synth company when it's about innovation and user interface. Their synths nail the UI, they are the Apple of synths. :) They not only build on the legacy of synthesiser, but innovative new UI elements like the display knob in the Astrolab.
    Many don't know, but all their synths include interactive tutorials in their plugins that you can connect to the hardware. You learn all the features and how a synth works interactively. Not only that: They produce awesome video tutorials. - I know only Ableton that takes so much care about teaching electronic music production. - And they keep updating their synths with major updates all the time for years.

  • @bob-rogers
    @bob-rogers 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Always love your videos, even when it's for something I'm never going to buy!

  • @voxmnemonic
    @voxmnemonic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Stellar overview as always! This channel is my comfort space

    • @loopop
      @loopop  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      🙌🏻🙏🏻 ❤

  • @thedarkestrainbow
    @thedarkestrainbow 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Wow. Dream synth. Love the vintage cream color. It’s giving everything I wish Tom Oberheim would have done over the entirety of the synth resurgence. Well done Arturia and great review as always. I may just sell a ton of gear just to get this.

  • @davebellamy4867
    @davebellamy4867 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Very cool breakdown of the polyphonic aftertouch and motion keys!👍👍👍
    What a synth!

  • @SolidtraxNL
    @SolidtraxNL 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    PB6 Is already great looking and sounding, but got to admit: love this new look! Great review as usual @loopop - informative but goes kinda deep as well - kudos!

  • @Deckeable
    @Deckeable 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The send effects are well adjusted in the presets at the end. Thanks for playing them!

  • @MartinStuertzer
    @MartinStuertzer 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    This looks like a modern Matrix 12 to me! Thanks a lot for your review.

  • @digitaldiezel5870
    @digitaldiezel5870 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    The unison sound puts big smiles on my face 😁😁😁😁

  • @chrisdavies9143
    @chrisdavies9143 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Busy day mate, fair play!! Of the three videos today, this is the one that interests me the most! The GAS is real!

  • @virgilsstudio
    @virgilsstudio 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    I'll be buying this and I'm 30 seconds in... I own a Polybrute and love it

    • @DasHemdchen
      @DasHemdchen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You ought to. PB12 is quatruple the fun than PB6, it feels limitless except for a real FM synthesis, but that‘s a different story. In analog, it‘s a great compromise with so many features and possibilities to recreate all your favourite 70‘s and 80‘s sounds and propel them into 2025.

    • @ET2carbon
      @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      You got 4 G's? 😅

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have lots of MPE controllers already but I had a nice nap while vibing to these great synth sounds

  • @muchlovefromfinland
    @muchlovefromfinland 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Looking good and fixes the main issue for me with the original, which was only six voices. Great work from Arturia there.

  • @scottmcauleysounds
    @scottmcauleysounds 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Sounds Great! love the expression in that keybed, this is one I may think of getting my hands on! :)

    • @AlessiMoretti
      @AlessiMoretti 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @scottmcauleysounds I would love to hear what you could do with this! such an amazing sound designer!

  • @andreas-wismann
    @andreas-wismann 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    It seems that there is no point in clicking “Like” 50 times :-) Always the greatest and most meaningful reviews on your channel!

  • @Radcaster
    @Radcaster 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm looking at this as someone who primarily plays string instruments, and it really feels like the keybed makes it an entirely different instrument to any synth I've seen up to this point. The expressive movements I instinctively try to do on a keyboard, that obviously never work, are finally possible on this. I am so excited to try one of these in person.

  • @LagoLhn
    @LagoLhn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +39

    A programmable Osmose. Solid.

    • @MrRostislove
      @MrRostislove 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Osmos as well as Haken audio has the deepest possible programmable synth engine

    • @bricelory9534
      @bricelory9534 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      I do feel the lack of the vibrato/bend per key that the Osmose has. And of course a very different synth engine - but I do like this for your more standard synth sounds, and the Osmose physical modelling is really quite lovely. If you had an unlimited budget, I think there's plenty of reason to have both in a studio, honestly. That and this is twice the cost of the Osmose - but I don't think this is overpriced at all. It has some serious chops and its ease of patching is huge.
      I think this is a fantastic instrument!

    • @LagoLhn
      @LagoLhn 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrRostislove I have an Osmose. It is nice- but let’s be honest about its on-panel programmability.

    • @MatsueMusic
      @MatsueMusic 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@MrRostislove Hawken Matrix is probably one of the worst interfaces on the planet. "Programmable" is exactly how I would describe it, definitely not "design".

    • @bricelory9534
      @bricelory9534 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      ​@@LagoLhn if you are dedicated, you can create and edit patches through its computer editor, which is *extremely* powerful and complicated but so much so to its detriment for any but serious developers. The knobs are purely macros, but you are allowed under the hood but you need a lot of tutorial time to patch anything worth patching.

  • @kinnectar820
    @kinnectar820 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    They really did a great job with the MPE controls using the sliders, excellent adaptability and not difficult to understand.

  • @mickec5245
    @mickec5245 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Well done Arturia!👏

  • @McEnroe911
    @McEnroe911 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Some really great presets on this board. Nice job Arturia.

  • @robertsyrett1992
    @robertsyrett1992 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    This is an insane synth. The best part is you don't need to buy software to edit patches.

    • @GizzyDillespee
      @GizzyDillespee 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      TBC, Robert's referring to Astrolab, where you have to buy software in order to edit patches (and potentially, many different individual software instruments, if you want to edit all of the presets). The Osmose keyboard, another competitor, requires software in order to edit or create presets, but it's free software, at least.

    • @robertsyrett1992
      @robertsyrett1992 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@GizzyDillespee Thanks for clarifying, I would not want Osmose to catch a stray.

    • @NuisanceMan
      @NuisanceMan 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good thing, since you won't have any money left after buying one.

    • @Cynshet
      @Cynshet 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      But like most of all other hardware synths, all knobs and faders are never on the right position when you load a patch. But the Software shows everything correct.

    • @MattnUska
      @MattnUska 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Cynshetthere’s trade off for both put I prefer normal pots vs endless pots.

  • @fallprecauxionsmusic
    @fallprecauxionsmusic 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    this is just plain cray-cree!! wow!! & no wonder we haven't seen the loopop polyend tracker+ vid yet. hotdang!! thanks, ziv.
    I sure do wish I was rich. well... I should say "money rich," because I'm rich in spirit, & very much blessed. I mean... any of us watching this vid should be able to say so. wouldn't y'all agree?

  • @derrickforeal
    @derrickforeal 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I pre-ordered this. Can't wait to get her next to my matrix and poly

  • @ohheyitskevinc
    @ohheyitskevinc 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Excellent! Agree on your last point about the keybed being part of a controller - a full sized Keystep Pro Pro is long overdue and would be an instant buy (for me at least). Even just a full sized 61 key KSP with poly aftertouch would do it for me.

  • @Composer_Rob_Lord
    @Composer_Rob_Lord 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for the excellent review per usual. I own a six voice Polybrute and an Osmose. Given that the new 12 voice has almost identical voice architecture do you think Arturia will be able to update the original PB to respond to MPE over midi?

  • @kadiummusic
    @kadiummusic 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finally a synth that is in the league of the Roland Jupiter 8 I regrettably sold many years ago and ironically is exactly the same price! I'm back in love!! 😎

  • @MrTanukiD
    @MrTanukiD 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Wow. They really did it. That is glorious.

  • @1of437
    @1of437 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    New Age CS-80. Well done Arturia and Loopop.

  • @LoopsDealer
    @LoopsDealer 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is the best sounding synth ever

  • @jwalkermed
    @jwalkermed 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    was looking for a new poly analog and was thinking of waiting for the moog muse. Now this has me second guessing.

  • @mwmfl8960
    @mwmfl8960 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This synth produces sounds which I haven't heard from an analog subtractive synth before and I have more than 35 years of experience with analog synths. For me it's definitely worth to be considered to be a future owner. But it would be the most expensive synth in my collection. Thanks Loopop for this excellent review!

  • @martinforstner3075
    @martinforstner3075 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My savings goal for a Polybrute has just turned into a stretch goal. I just really love the sound of this synth and judging from the polyAT of my Hydrasynth I can only imsgine the evolvin and resposive pads onecan make with this lovely synth. Hope Santa has started to hit the weights.

    • @geraldnahrgang5320
      @geraldnahrgang5320 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hi Martin. Try to link velocity to attack time in the mod matrix of your Hydrasynth and you get your desired evolvin' and responsive/plucky pads..........sort of 😉

  • @inthefade
    @inthefade 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Holy moly. I wish I could afford this monster. Amazing machine!

    • @ET2carbon
      @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sweetwater is a little over 100/month 36 months

  • @medusajapan
    @medusajapan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Amazing Synth!

  • @martinfox9443
    @martinfox9443 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    You on it for sure❤

  • @sudhanva-bhat
    @sudhanva-bhat 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I enjoyed your dune playing on this synth❤

  • @VinylWave11
    @VinylWave11 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If a person had this and Waldorf Irridium Keyboard version that would cover almost any synth sound you would want to make. Great video and very appealing synth. I would definitely like one of these.

  • @deastman2
    @deastman2 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Your synth collection must be pretty insane at this point from all the demo gear!

    • @RobertRodriguez19906
      @RobertRodriguez19906 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      most the time they send em back or have to pay for em. Arturia doesn't just send free gifts everywhere.

  • @sailingstar8176
    @sailingstar8176 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    You can do that velocity-sensitive transient thing on any synth which lets you modulate the envelope attack with the imverse of the velocity, like a Hydrasynth (which can also modulate the envelope release from the key release velocity, so you can control how quickly the notes shut off just from your playing). The new Polybrute sounds magnificent though, you demo it so well.

  • @audiovideotweaker
    @audiovideotweaker 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I WANT IT ;) - Great video!! Thanks! You're fast..... seems the news just broke an hour ago and you already have a review video going? NIce!

    • @loopop
      @loopop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks - I wish! there’s no way I can make a video like this in an hour - I had early access

  • @kaislate
    @kaislate 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Here is hoping for these features in the new keylab... Along with the knob encoders with the LED bars (customizable rgb please) from the astrolab.

  • @ManCalledMif
    @ManCalledMif 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    👏🏼great video explanation. So much modulation key bed initiated innovation. Glad to see Arturia pushing analogue technology on. £3500 not unexpected. Cons: quite a competitive Polysynth market…for space, time and cash.

  • @ztkspace5885
    @ztkspace5885 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Absolutely Phenomenal. x

  • @vincentedwardsdesign
    @vincentedwardsdesign 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, I really like the implementation of FullTouch - I hope they put this keybed on a full sized 12-voice digital w/ analog filters ‘SuperFreak’… as well as some of their controllers.

  • @VentureNW
    @VentureNW 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great stuff! Let's just hope that they bring FullTouch(tm) to the next KeyLabs Pro controller!

  • @FutureLust
    @FutureLust 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great review! Good to see more instruments exploring MPE. Also the way they set out the parameters makes me curious how a physical programmer for the Eagan Matrix could work. Are you going to do a video on Noisy 2?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! No, probably no video on Noisy 2 for now

  • @mtnoblesavage
    @mtnoblesavage 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    My next synth purchase, have the Matrixbrute Noir and Polybrute Noir, I love them both,,this beast will be a welcome addition, now to find the space 😂😂😂

  • @radiofloyd2359
    @radiofloyd2359 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I need this. Now.

  • @LyroLife
    @LyroLife 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Beautiful machine

  • @88jalea
    @88jalea 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice video. It sounds really nice. The biggest con for me on the original Polybrute 12 was the keybed felt super cheap. How much better does the MPE FullTouch keybed feel compared to higher end Fatar keybeds ?

  • @agentooe33AD
    @agentooe33AD 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    1:24 Man, I was getting serious Kraftwerk vibes! Reminded me of about 3/4 of the way through Autobahn. Sigh, too bad I'm broke, or this would have been a day 1 purchase! Great video as always!

  • @Dartagnan65
    @Dartagnan65 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    They should include a dust cover for those vents!
    Good idea putting the vents on the top, but, dust falls.

  • @avetisk
    @avetisk 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Can’t wait for the Midi Controller version of this keybed!

    • @ET2carbon
      @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      They should have put this in that other new board they just released

  • @ktreier
    @ktreier 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic review. 12 voices is what the first PB should have had. Great explanation of the expression features. I agree we need a Keylab with that keyboard. I think lifting this beast will give me a hernia. Are they trying to beat the CS-80 in a weight competition. 👍

  • @AlexMusayev
    @AlexMusayev 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    A beautiful machine ❤

  • @payt01
    @payt01 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is .. something else! i thought the original PB was cool, but this is on another level :) Hmm I need space though.. and financial means.

  • @mwl5
    @mwl5 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are they still using the thinner Arutria keys or are these normal width keys?

  • @yourcitysleeps
    @yourcitysleeps 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Finally just bought the OG Polybrute too haha

  • @therealskinflutes
    @therealskinflutes 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Awesome!

  • @mr.katnip1513
    @mr.katnip1513 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally, the breakdown of the historicity of Keybedz in this Video is TOP-NOTCH, DOCUMENTARY WORTHY!! 👑👑 You’re a Wizard LOOPOP and I can only COMPARE to the greatest as in BOB ROSS, MR. RODGERS, AND YES LOOPOP!! TOP-NOTCH!! 😇

  • @2.Plus.2.Equals.5
    @2.Plus.2.Equals.5 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Cool stuff

  • @i_never_asked_for_an_alias
    @i_never_asked_for_an_alias 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This thing is a beauty box.

  • @JimAlfredson
    @JimAlfredson 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great overview and review. The original PolyBrute is totally underrated with just a few minor issues, one of which was a rather underwhelming keybed. This new revision seems to address all my issues. But I must ask: Why is the pitch a semi-tone sharp? You're playing a C and it's a C#. Did you do this on purpose?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! No, I didn't do it on purpose to mess with the perfect pitch folks, and I don't recall changing the settings. I wish I was by it to test but I'm at superbooth

    • @JimAlfredson
      @JimAlfredson 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@loopop have fun at superbooth. The preset demos at the end are in the right key. Not sure why the earlier demonstrations concerning aftertouch and such are a half step off. Thanks for the vids!

  • @Arkansya
    @Arkansya 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    starting to see the broader impact of the osmose on the synth world

  • @majicboxstudios3996
    @majicboxstudios3996 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    @loopop
    Ziv, can you compare the keyboard feel to the Quantum Mark 2 or the Prophet 10 or the MOOG One?
    Or does the PB12 have the.. same feel as the regular PB ?

    • @JimDaneker
      @JimDaneker 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, the feel of Arturia's synth actions have always felt a bit cheap compared to other flagship synths, which is a shame as the rest of the hardware looks and feels really premium. Well, the rubber coated knobs could be nicer too, but those are easily swapped out. You can also see in this video that the keys are also slightly crooked (vertically), which isn't a good look on a brand new flagship... you never see that on a Yamaha or Fatar action...

    • @loopop
      @loopop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I don't have the Quantum or Prophet. I don't think the keys here or on the original feel cheap, but that's perhaps a matter of personal opinion I guess - they're not on the heavy side. The Moog One keys feel "more premium" with a kind of wood finish on the black keys, but if the only thing guiding my decision-making was the keybed functionality, personally, I'd take Arturia FullTouch - this is the one to beat IMHO.

    • @JimDaneker
      @JimDaneker 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@loopop thanks for the details. Looking forward to trying one!

    • @universalvibe72
      @universalvibe72 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@JimDanekerhey Jim, I have the OGPB and my only gripe are the keys. They are in the same range as the Roland System 8 but maybe a little bit thinner feeling. At first touch the Andromeda A6 suffered the same sort of keyboard feeling which to me was a letdown right away. (worse than the PB)
      I might take a trip in the next couple of days over to Perfect Circuit audio and give the PB 12 a test run.
      However the sound and features of the PB 12 look really intriguing. I was wanting to put my PB on the market anyway. 😮

    • @majicboxstudios3996
      @majicboxstudios3996 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@loopop ​​⁠ thank you for the response . The Moog one uses a premium Fatar keybed, after the Rev 2 all Sequential keys are Fatar but they are one level under the premium which is in the Virus KB / TI as well.(as the Moog one and the nonlinear labs.)
      I have the OGPB and I use it even though the keys aren't my favorite.. I have a number of synthesizers that use the Fatar TP9S and the TP8S for key beds. So I have a workaround personally.
      The difference between the TP 8 and the TP 9 are the woodgrain of the black keys and the length of the white keys. The more premium Fatar has the woodgrain and the longer keys.
      I think it is safe to say that the Fatar is the industry standard benchmark for a premium keypad for a flagship synthesizer. Now there are some other synth companies that make proprietary keybeds, however after years and years of research and hands-on experience I say the Fatar is the industry standard which all synthesizers should be judged against.
      Thank you very much for all of your videos.

  • @stateazure
    @stateazure 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Fantastic move by Arturia. I absolutely loved the expressive keyboard on the Osmose, but disliked the sound engine. This looks incredibly fun and expressive on top of a really great synth...just not sure about the colour, though it kind of reminds me of the old Oberheim SEM look. Great video as usual mate! What would we do without you?

    • @maydaygoingdown5602
      @maydaygoingdown5602 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Noir edition I'm thinking?

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Do you still have it Pat or did you sell it?
      I have been searching for an MPE/PAT keybed for ages, but there is nothing that doesn't cost an arm an leg so I opted for an Explorer for the time being.
      It gets me by but if Arturia just released this as a MIDI stand alone, they would make a ton of people happy.

    • @stateazure
      @stateazure 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@maydaygoingdown5602 I think that could be a while off yet...too bad they didn't start with a Noir version though!

    • @stateazure
      @stateazure 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dankeplace I sold mine. I loved the keybed/expressivity but the engine is a big let down, since it's almost impossible to program your own patches, and that's a no go for me. I don't really know another good option for you to be honest. Maybe Arturia will make a MPE standalone controller like this one day! Maybe ROLI? I don't really like their squishy controllers, but you might.

    • @dankeplace
      @dankeplace 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@stateazure wow never knew you sold it. I will just wait, I am patient enough, I have enough sequencers to keep me going, but if Arturia does a stand alone, I will be all over that for sure.
      I have to pop in to your live streams soonish, just the time differences are a killer.

  • @Rhythmattica
    @Rhythmattica 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just shows you how far Ensoniq was ahead of the curve one it came to poly aftertouch... 36 years ago..... (besides the CS80....) It was in all their synths and samplers since the late 80's.
    Must admit.. This is the new standard... Taking osmosis on... and being soooooo much better.... in a way thats balanced...
    EDIT: Thank goodness ive been saving for a 6.... Now I need to keep going!
    Love it!

  • @ET2carbon
    @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow. Big step up here

  • @hazedtape
    @hazedtape 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I freaking love the color scheme... original polybrute was amazing but my eyes where on matrix from the begining so i got it instead, then polybrute was next but man im happy i didnt get the original, wait was so worth it

    • @funkingitup1805
      @funkingitup1805 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I like the look of the original much better. Would have liked to see the white with some brushed nickel or even colored stain of the wood. I have a Noir Matrixbrute, and I'm a little jealoud of the originals.

  • @RadekPilich
    @RadekPilich 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Favourite moment in the video - the part where the scratched surface around the USB-B connector is shown :D

    • @loopop
      @loopop  21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I actually saw that as I was editing and became concerned - it wipes off thankfully - I should’ve taken another shot later .I guess, without the scratch.

    • @RadekPilich
      @RadekPilich 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@loopop I mean, it's a cultural reference and historical record of one of the major struggles of our generation :)

  • @adognamedshinji
    @adognamedshinji 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    If I could make one suggestion to the Arturia firmware team it would be to add a control for Poly AT slew amount and/or an attack/release control for it. No one has done this before, as far as I know. Aftertouch often feels jumpy--applying or removing pressure can sound abrupt. But adding a way to slew the pressure signal would open up a lot of nuanced sound design capability. Just my $0.02!

    • @Diayse
      @Diayse 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You should try the FullTouch Envelope mode; This is exactly that, with separate rise / fall slew, and a release control. Very, very fun to use !!

    • @user-ts2dd1he5u
      @user-ts2dd1he5u 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      How do you add that? buy separately? or in the synth program is included…??

  • @kierenmoore3236
    @kierenmoore3236 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I knew it!! 😊

  • @SRDhain
    @SRDhain 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It sounds great, and oddly, sounds richer than the original polybrute i used last week, which may or may not be due to the newer voice cards & / or a combination of that and the new keyboard.
    It wasn't mentioned in your review, but I'm assuming it's bi-timbral. It would have been nice to have two pairs of outputs in this version, but other than that, it looks good and sounds fantastic 🌅

  • @EannaButler
    @EannaButler 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow - 35:50 - Vangelis Beaubourg vibes! ❤

    • @EannaButler
      @EannaButler 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Bravo sir

  • @MichaelCoombes776
    @MichaelCoombes776 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I know the Osmose has an extremely advanced engine so it'd be difficult to program with a standard "knows and sliders" front panel, but I really like the combination of MPE and conventional controls. Looking at other instruments like the Seaboard/Continuum/Linnstrument I think I would miss the standard controls for programming. This looks like a nice compromise.

  • @n1tr0sys09
    @n1tr0sys09 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Keystep 37mkII with fulltouch... yes, that was literally my first thought when I understood what this feature was capable of.

  • @BIG_PASTA
    @BIG_PASTA 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Any software synths out there with this "full touch" style behavior? The synth seems really sweet, thanks for the video as usual :)

  • @mr.katnip1513
    @mr.katnip1513 18 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That SOUND at 20:31 🫠

  • @Lordxfx
    @Lordxfx 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hmm, instantly like the sound of this one more than the previous one.

  • @JonMurray
    @JonMurray 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Finally someone has designed a key bed that provides expression when you automatically wobble your finger on keys expecting vibrato for some reason!

    • @TheGibsonfender6
      @TheGibsonfender6 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You should look at the Expressive E Osmose if you haven't yet !

    • @milosmilosmilos
      @milosmilosmilos 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      Osmose Xpressive did it a year or two ago.

    • @lb2696
      @lb2696 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Except polybrute 12 does not have side to side expression on the keys. Osmose does.

    • @ET2carbon
      @ET2carbon 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      You've been able to do this since the 90's. Poly AT ain't new

    • @JonMurray
      @JonMurray 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@milosmilosmilos @lb2696 yup, fair point. I was thinking more in a conventional style synth and key bed but it does already exist. And I didn’t realise this didn’t even offer side to side expression. Man I got too excited.

  • @HobbertSharp
    @HobbertSharp 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What are you doing to me?! Why did this have to come out today?! [Drools on floor till dies of dehydration.]
    Not really, but thank you for the good news! I'm always excited when Arturia has something new (even when it makes something as pretty as the original Polybrute start to become obsolete).
    Great video, as always! :)

  • @axxonN
    @axxonN 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice little Dune 2 motif 😘

  • @DCaseyTucker
    @DCaseyTucker 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    27:15 definitely want a MIDI controller version of this key-bed

  • @mrdavies7894
    @mrdavies7894 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn’t want to care about this synth, but this review is _really_ compelling!

  • @mr.katnip1513
    @mr.katnip1513 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think that at the price of just about any Pro-wind instrument 🎷 particularly thinking of the Saxophone, Arturia has finally gave it a run for the money. In My mind the Saxophone is like the ultimate in expression for both the subtle and the futile; which as great as synthesis is, the ability to have an A to Z non-linear approach was just not happening. Now, with this I SEE iT HAPPENING, where you’re not trying to re-invent the wheel 🛞 for some bit-of the shadow of emulation, and again, I’m not referring to matching sounds but the abilities of expressiveness!! 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

  • @tristancaver4836
    @tristancaver4836 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😅I'm curious as to the actual quality of the keybed itself. Is it just an updated version of the original Polybrute keybed? Is it comparable to the TP8/SK found on the Quantum? Where does it sit quality wise amongst other offerings? Thanks!
    (Apologies btw.)

    • @loopop
      @loopop  20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      It's really hard to convey the actual feel over video - I've never tried the Quantum's keyboard (I'll try and have a feel at Superbooth). PB12's keyboard feels excellent in my opinion, but I also liked the on on PB6 and MatrixBrute, and they feel very similar

    • @tristancaver4836
      @tristancaver4836 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@loopopAwesome. I get it. Thanks! Have fun at Superbooth!

  • @HonorV2ultimate1tb
    @HonorV2ultimate1tb 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great video!! can it be connected to my Arturia keylab 88 mk2 so that i can play the synthesizer sounds from my Arturia 88 key keyboard?

    • @loopop
      @loopop  4 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks! I haven't tried that since the keybed is so strong here, but yes it should work

  • @goldenmiamiau
    @goldenmiamiau 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    did Expressive E licensed Osmose´s keybed to Arturia?

  • @ReductioAdAbsurdum1
    @ReductioAdAbsurdum1 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    and I'm just over here waiting for your review of the Moog Labyrinth...

  • @BenHayesDesigner
    @BenHayesDesigner 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Do you think this new keybed makes the old mod wheel more-or-less redundant or do you find you'd still use that alongside the new poly AT functionality?

    • @DasHemdchen
      @DasHemdchen 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure, I have a lot of vintage patches which make use of Poly AT and Mod wheel such as organs, E-Pianos, and all these 80‘s sound from Nena to Toto. But Envelope Touch is really useful for expressive flutes etc.

    • @loopop
      @loopop  20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the modwheel can be an excellent global macro "fader" regardless of PolyAT, as long as you're ok with everything changing at once.

  • @FilipeSalgueiroo
    @FilipeSalgueiroo 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That Dune moment in the beginning, tasty!