Reality of caste census
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- Caste census!
It has always been presented as a magical data point that will solve all the problems. Is it so? In today's video we take a deep dive into history of caste census, different commissions and analyse the politics of caste. This one will open eyes for a lot of people and will show some aspects that no one has covered on the topic. Watch & Share!
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Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:10 SC, ST, & OBC
02:14 Caste & Census
04:22 Kalelkar Commission
05:31 Mandal Commission
07:41 Mandal vs Kamandal
10:01 Impact of Mandal Commission
11:10 Rohini Commission
12:04 Benefits of Caste Census
13:03 Problem with Caste Politics
#Reservation #CastePolitics #Bihar #OpenLetter
We can thank Bihari politicians for atleast telling us how to not run a government 😂😂
Haha true that!
Including all the political party's even BJP 😅
@@openletterytthumbnail is misleading I think...
Congress unleashed caste terrorism and pappu asking for caste of journalists in press and Inc tweeting caste of IIT professors and kharge asking for caste of pmo officers and you are showing modi as caste man in thumbnail is??
@@openletteryt You should also make a video on 2021 census. Why is Bharatiya Janata Party not able to conduct census before the elections? You people are just licking the feet of the ruling government. You did not protest when 15% upper caste got 10% EWS reservation, but when the lower caste asked for reservation in the same proportion, then that is casteism.
@@abeg10 You did not protest when 15% upper caste got 10% EWS reservation, but when the lower caste asked for reservation in the same proportion, then that is casteism.
In rajasthan a single ST caste meena from Jaipur and near region's eat 90% of ST reservation And whereas in Rajasthan during the princely state, this caste was the landlord and hadoti and mewar region meena who are actually Bhil don't get any benefit of reservation because most of Bhil don't have knowledge about how to use reservation they study 8 to 10 th after that they do Labour work and other work to support their family same thing happened with gond community which is largest ST caste
Same case In Bangal Mondal is the surname taking 80 % of the reserved jobs..... But all Mondals doesn't have the reservation only few among them are taking full advantage......
And these guys project themselves as heroes for backward castes while eating all the reservation for themselves . For example : why the fuck do yadavs still get reservation they are among one the richest and powerful caste right now and I am saying this while being a yadav myself
@@funnyluci8686 right
You should do your own business why you want to enter govt jobs when you have your Empire already
Brahmins and Thakur's don't have other sectors so they should be given more seats in govt jobs and education sector
What's wrong in it
Govt should give benefit for poor people so that everyone can rise as they want
Not forcing a caste to grow even when they don't want to study they want to do business ?
@@anengineer152 that is why this bjp government brought the EWS system for economically weaker section and most of the these caste based parties and their supporters hate it
So if they don't study further , then automatically seats will occupied by others , does meens's stops them to study further ?? It's their fault not meena's ।
Graduation- Reservation
Post grad- Reservation
Job- Reservation
Promotion- Reservation
Finally, gets well settled & gets married.
After marriage,
Kids college- Reservation
Kids job- Reservation
Kid get married & cycle repeats.
The biggest ongoing joke for decades
This is where you're wrong sir, let me explain :-
1. There are no reservation except seniority based in promotions under govt. jobs.
2. Those who already profited from reservations will not go for government job again because it's biggest drawback is frequent transfers that seriously affects your social and educational life but most importantly every youngster from middle/lower-middle class I know and knew always wanted to go for private jobs(IT, petroleum industry, Medical(even nurses are paid more than IAS here).
3. Look at the level of competition in exams now, 98% candidates don't even have enough IQ to achieve success here competition is between only remaining 2% and more people are going after career in social networking sites, just look at how many youtubers were ex govt. Officers/aspirants and now they have more lucrative career than they ever imagines.
Note :- I'm a retired diplomat and none of my colleagues (Grade A,B jobs) kid even think about preparing for competitive exams like JEE, NEET, UPSC CSE, SSC CGL etc. Because they can achieve much more in foreign lands or setup businesses in India through the contacts we made in our career
Temples - reservation
Judges - reservation
GEN PEOPLE HATED OTHERS IN OLD TIMES BECAUSE GEN HAD ALL THE ADVANTAGE AND OTHERS DIDN'T
NOW GEN PEOPLE HATE OTHERS BECAUSE OTHERS HAVE JUST A LITTLE MORE
@@Abhishek_Seth100 Learn about shastras and break reservatiion in temples
@@Abhishek_Seth100 No one is force to go to temple. Anyone can build temple and reserve it for themselves. But you don't have choice in case of Judges.
@@khojendra8832
👉 no one is forced to get a government job ,people can join private company , start busines , startup become CEO
But I think you didn't know that
I wonder if India 🇮🇳 could ever overcome the the obstacles of " Castes, Racism and Discrimination ".
we educated one who care for our country have to enter in politics
racism is small issue. feminism is the biggest issue.
There will always be one or other form of identity. Because its politics and this is how it work in real world
We can't ever overcome caste until people are benefited by it and discrimination is a fact of humanity. We'd have died out millions of years ago if the trait of discrimination did not exist.
@@THEeaternalpeople is rahul gandhi is not educated but still
Then: What Bengal thinks today India thinks tomorrow
Now: What Bihar thinks today India used to think 100 years ago
Not 100 karantaka govt did caste census just 6 years ago
Bengal is thinking what Bihar used to think 100 years ago.
And we don't want to think as to how Bengal thinks now even in our entire life time.
Only Bihari has to power make Akhand Bharat.
History may repeat.
bengal under mamta is same as bihar
The caste system will never end in India.........
it's a bitter truth...
the people of general category will hate the people of reserved category because they are not getting what they deserve , there friends with similar financial conditions , but belongs to reserved categories....
will get selected in any exam with lower marks....
it will increase the caste based mindsets....
and the people of st or sc with good financial conditions will take benefits of all the reservation...
and the people of st or sc with bad financial conditions will be in the same conditions....
Divide and Conquer
Being from poor sc family, I know what's happening due to reservation in India. And I don't have expectations from government because it's india
Many people have benefited too why see one side of the story
All castes comes under reserved category only.. even upper caste can avail EWS
@@abracadabra7550 this is a sick mentality...solve the problem...don't delay it
Merit should be the only way and if some groups do get reservation...it should be atleast updated in every 10 years
I'm from Bihar from upper middle class and from high power OBC section... I can tell you my experience that Bihar politicians are totally corrupted.. They just want to be in power though any method whether it is through caste politics or even they offered money, gifts for votes.. .. Not in only legislative assembly but in also panchayat election... They don't care about people.. In Bihar government school are just worst nobody wants to send their children to government school.. public healthcare is at worst you can't found doctors in government hospital... They are just doing doing corruption even in basic welfare schemes.. People are just migrating for jobs... There is no industry.. But our government don't bother about these.. they just using people for their votes.. Worst nightmare is people also don't bother about these they think that this is there fate... I don't know how much corrupt a government can be..
Apne sch bolne ki himmat ki good
All politicians are corrupted 🙂
According to NBC News, no more than 10% of Dalits in India are well-off.
According to a study, 22.3% of higher caste Hindus own 41% of India's total wealth. In contrast, 7.8% of Hindu Scheduled Tribes own only 3.7% of the country's assets.
According to a UN report, one third of India's Dalits remain poor. The Agricultural Census of 2015-16 reported that Dalits own only about 9% of the total agricultural land.
It is true that many people who oppose reservation tend to be silent when incidents of caste discrimination or violence against Dalits and other marginalized communities take place. However, they are often very vocal when there is a debate about removing reservation.
There are a few possible explanations for this. First, some people who oppose reservation may not actually care about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may simply see reservation as a threat to their own privilege or opportunities. Second, others may believe that incidents of caste discrimination or violence are rare or isolated events, and that they do not represent the reality of life in India. Third, still others may be afraid to speak out against caste discrimination, for fear of being ostracized or retaliated against.
Whatever the reason, the silence of people who oppose reservation in the face of caste discrimination is deeply troubling. It shows that many people in India are still unwilling to acknowledge the problem of caste, or to take responsibility for addressing it.
It is important to note that there are also many people who oppose reservation who are genuinely concerned about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may believe that reservation is not the best way to address caste discrimination, or that it has become counterproductive. However, they are still willing to speak out against caste discrimination and to work for a more just and equitable society.
It is important to have a respectful and open dialogue about the issue of reservation, and to listen to the perspectives of all sides. However, it is also important to hold people accountable for their silence, and to demand that they speak out against caste discrimination whenever and wherever it occurs.
😢you are totally correct.😢😢😢😢
there is no need for reservations for any community, give them scholarships or infrastructure but snatching someone's job or seat just because he isn't in reservations is never good
@@DrakeTheDragonDudeso make it fully on economic background..and 30 saal m thik ni hopyga tmhara status to ab ky hoga😊
@@DrakeTheDragonDude but that is not entirely true now, many SC/ST and OBC people are rich and living a privileged life yet they still get access to reservations whereas many people from general caste have a poor living condition and weak economic state. Now imagine, a poor and needy person applies for a job or an entrance exam but his seat gets snatched away from him/her and given to someone with cast reservation despite him being from a privileged family and having a good lifestyle.
@@DrakeTheDragonDude And that, for the most part, has already been addressed. You say that it is about the caste but still, it is affecting the individual. What are you trying to say? Like, if someone is in poverty from the upper caste due to death, failed business, etc is it right to snatch their right to education and jobs and give to someone from the lower caste who are already well off? And from the way you are using oppressed and oppressing words who rather support casteism by highlighting those words even though they are irrelevant in today's world.
The best way to get rid of casteism is to get rid of caste and to do that we must treat everyone equally, and by everyone I literally mean everyone. That is why I believe if we are to give aid to people in poverty we should create a system that focuses on the individual rather than their caste. Like for example, give aid to a person who is poor and after he gets rich and has sustainable wealth, take the aid away so that his/her children can't misuse it since they will be born in a family that is no longer poor.
@@DrakeTheDragonDude I m getting life .. dude in gov. Job but when I see someone with 30% less marks then me in same post .. then don't complian why goverment doesn't work.
@@DrakeTheDragonDude Bruh, am I literally talking to a bot? You just copy pasted your previous comment
"every GENERAL is not rich AND every SC/ST/OBC is not poor"-every one should share this and this should be the slogan to get reservation according to financial basis🗣....and I am not against of sc/st ,I belong to st category. after seeing my friends and best friends of other categories facing this problem....as having some humanity , "its not equality in terms of justice"(understand this line ,its so deep)
I agree with you but biology naam ka bhi chij hoti h 😂😂 biology nhi padhi kya???
Just imagine u r rich sc ,u have everything but people use ur caste as an abusive word in front of u ,since they don’t know ur caste and then they say slogan like urs. Reservation ko social economic reason se define karti hai supreme court ,tum log economic ka matab to samajh jate ho lekin social ka matlab tab hi samjhoge jab khudh ek low caste main janam loge. Or ews main aj kal business man ke ladke bhi qouta le rahe hai apni income ko kam show kar k. Idealism ki batien karte ho reality ka kuch pta nahi
Yes you are write every general is not rich and every SC/ST/OBC is not poor. But a general guy will never face caste discrimination in his life on the other hand every SC/ST/OBC have fear that they can be discriminated based on caste or even discrimination happen with them even if they are rich. Hamare President Ram Nath Kovind or Draupadi Murmu ko hi dekh lo. To ye rich-poor wala Gyaan khi aur chodo.
But poor general caste alway try to disrespect sc/st/obc ?? 🤡
@@yashanand9865 I don’t know if you guys would believe this is or not but I come from a general family and my parents never told me a thing about caste or anything they were always made me believe that we all are equal and everything it was only recently that I saw racism when I joined a coaching for a competitive exam , more than the people will old thinking the reservation system seems to be driving people towards racism and after 3 months of interacting with people from that coaching and other peps who have decided to give competitive exam there reply would be one and the same and that is they rather face discrimination than not get selected for year on years of hardwork
Bihar needs a good revolutionary politician....
Like lalu 😅😂
@@donalduncleusa6552abe chal na Lalu
@@donalduncleusa6552he was fire before 1995 but after that😢
@@aweeb634 😂
@@SachinYadav-ro5hw he was ghanta always
I am remembering one quote from a cartoon
"If everyone is special then no one is special"
When ever Indians start getting United under the name of religion then it's beneficial to BJP. This is the reason so much hindu muslim going on in the country... This unites Hindus and as a result benefits BJP
But there is only a single tool to break the unity of Hindus and that is caste... When the Hindus are divided mostly the regional party are extremely benefited from this... This is the reason BJP always opposes any caste based surveys and the opposition loves it
Till the reservations exists, caste census is needed, with out caste census the rich becomes rich and poor more poor
It is true that many people who oppose reservation tend to be silent when incidents of caste discrimination or violence against Dalits and other marginalized communities take place. However, they are often very vocal when there is a debate about removing reservation.
There are a few possible explanations for this. First, some people who oppose reservation may not actually care about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may simply see reservation as a threat to their own privilege or opportunities. Second, others may believe that incidents of caste discrimination or violence are rare or isolated events, and that they do not represent the reality of life in India. Third, still others may be afraid to speak out against caste discrimination, for fear of being ostracized or retaliated against.
Whatever the reason, the silence of people who oppose reservation in the face of caste discrimination is deeply troubling. It shows that many people in India are still unwilling to acknowledge the problem of caste, or to take responsibility for addressing it.
It is important to note that there are also many people who oppose reservation who are genuinely concerned about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may believe that reservation is not the best way to address caste discrimination, or that it has become counterproductive. However, they are still willing to speak out against caste discrimination and to work for a more just and equitable society.
It is important to have a respectful and open dialogue about the issue of reservation, and to listen to the perspectives of all sides. However, it is also important to hold people accountable for their silence, and to demand that they speak out against caste discrimination whenever and wherever it occurs.
@@MoulikSinghlahreW21C there is no such caste called dalit
@@MoulikSinghlahreW21C Wake up to reality. Reality is that you all WANT to remain forever in 1857 . Reverse discrimination is also discrimination. Just a reminder *"not a Wish"* that the moment Generals climb the stairs again and reaches the top you'll not be able to face the real heat this time. If YOU can't give up your caste based obsession for reservation then don't expect generals will. And life is cyclic. What comes around goes around . Generals will face karma IF they discriminated else Karma will Boomerang onto you . Even Ambedkar was NOT anti Sawarn . He just wanted to end Caste system and I support him for that.
@@MoulikSinghlahreW21C Dalit is the term given by Phules . Just like the term Harijan by Gandhi.
God! Even reservation couldn't give you the education .
Caste and reservation is a tool if not used wisely will pull the nation backwards and not forward! Very enlighting video 😊
Tamilnadu state with highest reservation , that's why most developed & inequality in wealth is minimum among people compare to other state , bcz they gave representation to everyone and also most castless state . So it clearly show ,how reservation if implemented successfully helped development of whole society ,but not just one group of people ।
@@NN94887that doesn't give you right abuse Sanatan Dharma
@@NN94887 Man you are absolutely right. But to implement it succecfully any state needs a visionary politicians. I am not aginsts any party but when it's comes to politician, there are many politician in Bihar which have very bad history like chara ghotala. I don't see such politician would be able implement such things for human development.
Implementation the policy in a state and in a country is a very different aspects all together. It's easy to implement on a state level because of the population difference and ability to crowd control. Also the different roles of politicians comes into the picture. It's a tad bit complex but removing it is easy and in the long run will improve the different qualities of the country.
@@NN94887I can safely guess you are a reservation caste guy!
For your knowledge, tamilnadu is the so casteless society that it's the only state where caste riots are a regular thing.
I think ... With census we should collect the data of household income from every source.. it wil be beneficial
Income based reservation is much more complex, how can one track the real time income of a person. Suppose this year is good for farmer so he is higher income category and then next year it can be vice - versa. And u can check the EWS status everyone can take reservation just by tweak simple things. It sounds easy but it the hardest to implement.
Reservation is positive discrimination. It should be used to annihilate tha caste discrimination not to increase it.
It is true that many people who oppose reservation tend to be silent when incidents of caste discrimination or violence against Dalits and other marginalized communities take place. However, they are often very vocal when there is a debate about removing reservation.
There are a few possible explanations for this. First, some people who oppose reservation may not actually care about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may simply see reservation as a threat to their own privilege or opportunities. Second, others may believe that incidents of caste discrimination or violence are rare or isolated events, and that they do not represent the reality of life in India. Third, still others may be afraid to speak out against caste discrimination, for fear of being ostracized or retaliated against.
Whatever the reason, the silence of people who oppose reservation in the face of caste discrimination is deeply troubling. It shows that many people in India are still unwilling to acknowledge the problem of caste, or to take responsibility for addressing it.
It is important to note that there are also many people who oppose reservation who are genuinely concerned about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may believe that reservation is not the best way to address caste discrimination, or that it has become counterproductive. However, they are still willing to speak out against caste discrimination and to work for a more just and equitable society.
It is important to have a respectful and open dialogue about the issue of reservation, and to listen to the perspectives of all sides. However, it is also important to hold people accountable for their silence, and to demand that they speak out against caste discrimination whenever and wherever it occurs.
hard to do when tons of people dont even pay tax or even have bank accounts
@@MoulikSinghlahreW21C people talk about removing reservation is just a new method of showing caste pride.
@@MoulikSinghlahreW21C what would you prefer as a patient ...one doctor is general he qualified neet with a score of 630 out of 720 and another doctor is from reserved category getting a score of 400 out of 720 in neet to get the same college as the general one...i dont think caste reservation should exists in education and if it is needed to exist then in compatetive exams atleast set a minimum reasonable criteria of marks needed to get a seat at a college
I am from Bihar from general category, I completely agree with you.
The situation in Bihar is getting worse day by day ,we the people from general category not able to get admission in the best government college on our marks which are much more higher than the reserved class students .
Even in jobs people with less merit get the place which does not belongs to them they got that job just because they belongs to reserved class .
Only general class has to suffer a lot .
I think that whole country should learn from the government of Bihar how to not rule, if you want your government to be in power.
This time we will try to change the government for change in Bihar.So that general category can able to survive in Bihar.
Pata nahi Bihar ki government karna kya chatihai ...Dusre state kese apni growth badah a soch Rahi haii...ye log kese Bihar ki loote ...Bihar ke logo ko to uper wala bachae.......
भूरा बाल साफ़ करो
Ambedkar sir wanted separate electorate for scheduled castes not educational and job reservations. Gandhi and nehru were the reasons these came into being. He knew these reservations giving jobs to students with lesser marks than average will destroy our entire race. The sad part is scheduled caste both leader and public are obsessed with these nows. If we can't get rich like the parsees then we should develop ourselves scientifically like the jews but we're failing there as well. Due to reservations making it easier to get jobs. Causung people to never suffer failure. If they don't suffer failure they'll never be able to get up from it either.
Why only scheduled castes are targetted when obc general st everyone wants reservation???? Oh yes you PPL can't digest that those who are not allowed to gain education become officers
Wrong facts ...half truth ....
@@Abhishek_Seth100 okay tell the complete truth.
@@Abhishek_Seth100 nah my words meant that the reasons why scheduled castes are stuck in middle-class is bcoz of reservation system never causing them grow rich or advance in the fields of science.
@@abhisheknahar-vk3lj nah ...I just changing the topic ... Just get informed before you start spreading misinformation everywhere .
Then i will definitely hear how much you care about schedule caste and their wellbeing and their growth etc
Quality education at grass root levels will bring equal playing fields to all, irrespective of financial status, caste or religion. Once equal fields are set, reservation can be taken out. And at present times hardly anyone remembers caste atleast in educated mass.
Search about suicide in school/college due to bullying based on caste , religion , north east etc .....
@@Abhishek_Seth100bro there's nothing like that
Or happens very rarely
There's 1 2 case in lakhs of students
@@neelamsingh7023 you sure about this data ? Because one Google search in the news section proves you wrong .
@@vivaanburnwal142 see you comment where you use word SNATCH and where you use DENIED .
That's the main problem - your confirmation bias.... mentality since thousands of years
Nice Joke LOL.
This caste practice was for the royal kings of old. Now we should remember only one thing we are Indians. Let's all move forward. There is no time to look back. ❤ I love Indians ❤
General candidates from lower middle class bring 98% marks and get no good education and job seats whereas candidates of rich businessmen and officer fathers of so-called 'backward castes' living in posh bungalows bring 65% marks and get the best education and jobs. The general candidate remains poor and backward just like his father. Most of the unreserved seats are already taken by the 'backward classes' and the remaining seats are exclusively kept reserved for them to ensure 'equality'. In such a scenario how can we talk about reservation of more seats? Isnt this just a reservation which has vengeance in its mind against the general castes instead of a genuine concern for progress? Will not removing all reservations and keeping it only for genuinely poor candidates as its sole criteria be more promotive of equality, unity and progress of Indian society?
@@meltherecafe2394 which obc guy has got selected with 65% marks ??
EWS are eating the cream and still blame obc for getting reservation.
@@gauravnaagar5799 Tina Dabi the AIR 1 in UPSC didnot even have enough marks to qualify cut off in prelims from a general category. Thats talking about rank 1 of the highest exam in India. You can only imagine how long the list goes. By the way both her parents were high ranking officers in government, can only imagine how 'backward' she was and how much she needed reservation. People who comment like you are hyenas who will divide Indian society for their greed. No different than what Jinnah did by dividing India between Hindu and Muslims and seeking reservation for them even if it meant dividing our beloved country and killing millions in partition. You just want another partition of Indian society for your hyena-like never ending greed.
@@gauravnaagar5799 konsi strawberry duniya me ho??
@@whentheimposterissus8376 tu konsi duniya me h bhai ??
ews cutoff is lower than obc cutoff for all exams.
The lie that is known to be a lie is half eradicated, but the lie that even intelligent persons regard as a sacred fact - the lie that has been inculcated around a mother’s knee - is more dangerous to contend against than a creeping pestilence.
It is true that many people who oppose reservation tend to be silent when incidents of caste discrimination or violence against Dalits and other marginalized communities take place. However, they are often very vocal when there is a debate about removing reservation.
There are a few possible explanations for this. First, some people who oppose reservation may not actually care about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may simply see reservation as a threat to their own privilege or opportunities. Second, others may believe that incidents of caste discrimination or violence are rare or isolated events, and that they do not represent the reality of life in India. Third, still others may be afraid to speak out against caste discrimination, for fear of being ostracized or retaliated against.
Whatever the reason, the silence of people who oppose reservation in the face of caste discrimination is deeply troubling. It shows that many people in India are still unwilling to acknowledge the problem of caste, or to take responsibility for addressing it.
It is important to note that there are also many people who oppose reservation who are genuinely concerned about the well-being of Dalits and other marginalized communities. They may believe that reservation is not the best way to address caste discrimination, or that it has become counterproductive. However, they are still willing to speak out against caste discrimination and to work for a more just and equitable society.
It is important to have a respectful and open dialogue about the issue of reservation, and to listen to the perspectives of all sides. However, it is also important to hold people accountable for their silence, and to demand that they speak out against caste discrimination whenever and wherever it occurs.
I think caste should not be encouraged in any way …
Just keep it personal as religion …
Reservations must be given based on economically backward people ..
Health and education must be provided by government at minimum cost …
Tell Me you never experienced real life casteism without saying it
Ban Hindu religion. It will solve both problem
@@damn7637presently reservation is the main reason for castism. I would never dislike lower caste people otherwise. But reservation makes me have a subconscious bias towards them.
@@executioner5148 you should have that... It's not casteism.. It's caste consciousness, so you know that why they get reservation... Why lower caste need to uplifted.. There's nothing wrong
@@damn7637 i agree with reservation for poor people. But seeing people who are well off getting reservation just because of their caste seems unfair and pointless
We are kirrar sub rajput majority of our caste is come under obc and we get reservation that we don't need ,we are self dependent and government should give reservation to people who are backward not on paper but on real-life situations.
That u r telling from your personal experience
1:28 Bheem ki Shakti Dhum machae general OBC man chudai🤡🤡🤡😊😊😊😊😊
मानसिक रोगी । फोकट का भोगी ।
5000 year tak 100% reservation liye ..logo ko chutt**ya bana kar ..ab 80 saal Mai hi faat gayi...😂😂 Waise EWS ka maza Kon le raah ..
Sudama Quota😂
Misrha की जली ना😂
👽
I am a beneficiary of reservation but today I don't need it nor my children because I have the confidence of progression but there is no process through which I can withdraw my reservation in a population of 100+ crores there are people whom we can count on fingers who have no caste certificate...fine we can go to court it might take years to get that certificate I would still be happy to do for the next generation.............But when I come across people at large using casteist slurs even when the victim me of not belonging to that caste I would say .... these people dont change let me them suffer so people mentality has to change so that the politicians act in that way if a OBC CM can be in his seat if he claims no reservation for his own caste?
Understanding your english is harder than cracking UPSC.
Can you please write in hindi instead.
Bhaiji, likh dijie hindi me. There is no shame in writing in your mother tongue.
You think Brahmin-Thakurs are not targeted for their castes by Bhimtas ? Why shouldn't they also recieve reservation..
@@Dolfy_Putler Ok. Then why don't you rewrite his comment and explain what exactly he is saying.
Maybe you both learned english in same government school where they don't teach sentence formation and use of punctuation marks. I on the other hand passed out from an elite private school where different english is taught. That's why I am unable to understand him. But it's ok. It must be my fault that i didn't learn to understand this type of english and so I request your help to rewrite it in the form I can understand.
@@AemondTomahawka very valid point. In fact, this guy must be very dishonest or dumb that he doesn't know or acknowledge the venom being spit by BAMCEF countless other sc st organisations against upper castes.
Back then, SC/ST/OBCs were opperesed
Now General are opperesed.
Sab literate hain, kisiko apki caste se fark nhi padta.
But agar policies hi division create kr rhi hain, to you will face this.
Clearly equal opportunities nhi hone k karan, one or the other community feels discriminated.
Reservation creates division and discrimination.
SCs and lower OBCs were oppressed STs were seemed as aliens...
the caste discrimination is into the roots of people
like you can find various castes that are too arrogant for their names
Just read history you will get to know that OBCs have very glorified past
Lets see what happens 😑
Russia has Russians
China has Han Chinese
Iran has persian.
Bharat has: ST, SC, OBC, Forward, Backward, Minority, Language and Regional Identification , No Bharatiya .
First hindus need to learn what is caste, how it started, what is meaning!
Tab tak kuch nahi hoga, politician chutiya banate rahenge, log to already hai he
you talked about how having a caste census can ensure that the communities who were earlier given the benefits of reservations and are now well-off, can be removed from the reserved list and other communities can be added. But in a nation like India where several communities (we all know which) have rioted, looted, and resorted to often extreme forms of violence to guarantee reservations for themselves, even when they are one of the richest and socially and politically stable communities, which community will take their striking off from the reserved list without giving a strong fight?
I believe reservation should be based on income of the household rather than caste
Nah that's also dumb ,if not income provide education facilities instead of reservation
You got a point but it also has its fair share of problems.
1) a person can simply hide their actual income, now they would not only get benefit from government but also tax saving.
2) Since people can now show lower income and get benifit for it more and more people will show a lower income
3) much of finance isn't fixed like a business can have huge profits in one year and can go bankrupt the next, a person with a job may not have a job the next month so on and forth
I think the answer could be free education for all no matter the caste or religion or age.
Currently we have an 18 percent tax on college education which I honestly feel doesn't make sense.
We Already have a lot of things we can learn on internet and internet is cheap
For jobs if people are able to use internet that helps
Of course this isn't a perfect solutions as it would require one to have a smartphone or computer I am just trying to tell an alternative
@@hemantjain2387 More you pay tax more you must have facilities people who pay no tax must not be in the position to demand they are already burden on the country.
Victimisation of upper caste is the main reason of exodus of talents from India. In spite of all the progress that we see today, we have so many political leaders whose only business is to talk about their own caste or community. For many of them, talking about India and its progress is secondary. Forget about, how India will be best in the world. A country to be the best, the rulers should also be the best.
Caste reservation will never make indians to forget their caste which causes differences between the people and hate.
Haazaro saal mein nhi bhoole ab kya bhulenge...😂😂😂
@@amit9472
Hum nhi the hazaro saal pehle
Aur ab article 14 15 16 17 already castiesm ko abolish karta hai 😑
1:55 "OBC creamy layer ko exclude krne ki mang uthti hai" ye fact galat hai....OBC creamy layer are already excluded from any reservation.... Reservation is only for OBC non creamy layers....I'm a creamy layer OBC and I do not get any reservation in educational institutions and job....the division of Creamy layer and non creamy layer is on the basis of annual income, currently the ceiling is ₹8 lakh per annum...the glitch in this is- people who pay ITR annually i.e. whose income gets shown officially becomes creamy layer but large land owning farmers who do not pay ITR as agricultural is non taxable in India gets excluded and take the benefit of reservation irrespective of their large properties....
I can tell u a dozens of cases I have seen personally they have monthly income of 2-3 lakhs still come under obc ncl
Same here, some people are doctors but still their income is not shown since they run only private clinic...
Brother most of his figures shown are inconsistent, misleading facts, I cared to check the data according to his furnished data, Group A OBC officers is not 17% it is group D that is 17% group A is somewhat 5% he should go through his own data before publishing such figures and it's shameful how people in comment are against reservation census
@@darksider17That happens in EWS as well, and when people claim scholarship. So it's a systematic flaw.
@@aditya_patilthis is hapenning in ews quota as well. Upper caste people making fake documents.
chauhan ,rathores,pawar and jadhavs(banjaras) of telagana and andhra pradesh are getting reservation ,they are categorized in st category(their are 300+ subcastes in st but only this one caste is taking all the seats).actually some of them are poor and some them are highly highly rich(living in banjara hills and jubilee hills; richest places of hyderabad ) ,most of them are politicians and ruling the states.the govenment not gonna add them in general category because their is huge population of them(for votes the politicians offers this reservation),they were protest by the other castes who belong to st community to remove banjaras caste from st and add them in general but till now no response from courts .but giving reservation according to financial conditions and income is the best decision an indian govenrment could take because "every general is not rich and every sc/st/obc is not poor"-remeber this.no caste no reservation ,then akhand bharath is not far away
I literally studied caste in gs1 yesterday 😂😂😂 thanks Bhai concepts bilkul clear hogaye or revise hogaya
Very good information and explanation.
Thanks
very much inspired from you brother .. can you tell me how you started your editing (self/paid) and who is editing your videos now?
i appreciate your work. keep it up man and bring some more content like that .
The Creamy layer of obc are now shifting towards bjp, in central election they totally vote for bjp and in state election except old aged traditional voters obc youths are voting for bjp they are understanding that they are used as a vote bank tool to win elections by their so-called same caste party, unification is very much essential for overall development of nation
Yes
extremely well researched and analyzed facts and presentation
very nice video
keep educating us sir
Replace the word "caste" with "religion" and re-watch it
Doesn't make any sense lol
Finally someone cover it detailly
I am from OBC and i dont need reservations ... thank you ... I am Just a Proud Hindu 🙏
And i dont need ews reservation. Har Har Shri Mahadev ji🙏🕉🇮🇳
@@economics1483Mai to EWS me ata bhi nehi 😅😅😅
If people have no problem with government doing religion politics then there shouldn’t be a problem with caste politics.
Dekho keh bhi kon raha ahi. Bjp kam se kam development to karti hai caste waale tum jaiso ko loot ke khaate hai aur tum andhr hoke vote dete ho
Parties which are doing politics on religion are now trying to do politics of castes
@@nareshshingote8081 😂 really bjp never do cast politics because it reduces their votes
And vice versa
Change your Title. Your title and thumbnail make it look like that you are against the census, but infact this was a very balanced and unbiased perspective on the issue.
Tho Informative as always!
So when PM says, mai OBC se hu to vo koi politics nhi kr rhe?
Simple logic, subcastes which are deprived of the reservations that are given to that caste category, due to the few privileged subcastes in the same Reservation category enjoying the reservations IS THE MAIN REASON THAT RESERVATIONS HAVEN'T MADE ANY DENT IN IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY NEED IT, at the ground level.
It's no longer about upper vs lower caste, which is the basis of the vote bank caste politics these politicians like to play for their own gain.
It's all about privileged people (irrespective of the castes ST, SC, OBC) enjoying the reservations at the cost of all the underprivileged people belonging all ST, SC, OBC or general category.
That's all that matters.
Getting everyone out of the underprivileged status and providing them a decent standard of living and facilities necessary to grow and develop IS THE MAIN GOAL OF RESERVATIONS.
BUT THE CASTE POLITICS THESE POLITICIANS PLAY DOESN'T DO ANYTHING GOOD TO ACTUALLY IMPROVE THE SITUATION.
Just a very small example of a reservation category MLA's children are enjoying reservations and have the privilege for better facilities .. will obviously use reservation at the cost of poor underprivileged students in the same category.
This is the root cause, which obviously rhe politicians want to hide .. as for them it is beneficial personally as well as it is beneficial to divide and rule just like the British did.
your video wasn't showed in my subscription tab...
i find it by searching
In the country like India reservation is a must have policy. But, sadly the country is not heading towards B.R.Ambedkar's vision of the complete abolition of the caste based reservation. The reservation is just a tool for the political parties to gain mileage from those sections. It's high time India and especially Bihar think beyond the caste in order to create an ideal society for the upcoming generations.
You know what Dr Ambedkar had to go through in his early life right?
@@user-ze5qr1bq9g Yes, I know what he had to go through in his formative years. He had to face untouchability in his school and various other discrimination. That's why, I have mentioned that reservation is a must in India. I am not sure whether you tried to call me out for my comment or you are just asking me about Ambedkar. If you have tried to call me out then, read the comment fully and understand first then, say anything.
@@vaibhavprakash4487 I was just asking you about Dr Ambedkar sir, many people fail to understand his vision because they don't know the backstory and they start critisizing him for baseless reasons
It makes my blood boil
@@user-ze5qr1bq9g No Hindu denounced him for his denouncing of Hindu Dharma, in fact we embraced him as a very important part of India. But we dislike when Muhammadans use him to bash Hindus and cunning politicians when they chant “Jay Bheem, Jay Mim”, when Bhimrao Ramji Ambedkar has also talked about many eye-opening things about the Muhammadan religion, but nobody points that out, only uses him like a political tool to bash Hindus and divide Hindus.
what a informative session Bhaiya!😊
So nice of you
@@openletterytBJP ka dalla kabhi Religion Politics ki v baat kar lo😐
Now Bihar Will Become New York
What a nice joke! 😂 Never ever, if goes on with same mentality 😊
@@mj093 visit Bihar Tesla announced their production in Bihar after caste census..
@@mj093 Sarcasm bro
Informative vdo🙏🏻👍🏻
I think reservation should be given on the basis of income and not on the basis of cast
If anyone is having government job and salary more than 20k then their childrens should not get reservation. 👍🏻
You should be in niti ayog ... And who should get reservation ?
20k kya hi hota hain .aap mat banana policy . ews ki limit bi 8 lakh per annum hain.
@@sinotoio bhai 50k krto fir tum policy bana rahe ho toh 👍🏻
Abe 8 lakh pe to upper xaste ko quota mil rha h ews me... aur humko 20k bol rhe ho
@@abracadabra7550 Bhai government employees also take black money
Without the development of every caste we can't develop india
Not true
@@gksquad2024 🧐🧐🧐🧐
With reservations you are just forcing generals to demand their own seperate nation 😑
What a analysis.......you are great brother❤❤❤❤
Nutish and Lallu trying to make rest of India has Bihar.
Who is that harami created caste n reserved all temples for themselves
First Indians need to be educated about what caste system was in the Vedic period and then it should be abolished completely.
It wouldn't ever be abolished because without it many so called lower caste people wouldn't be able to play victim card and would not be able to enjoy free reservation without any hard work. And also parties like Congress, RJD, SP, JDU, wouldn't let it get abolished because if it gets abolished then their caste politics and division politics would be over and then they wouldn't be able to enjoy free corruption money
100% RIGHT
This is not divide this is justice...India is not free , real independence yet to come.
I believe there still need of reservation but the judgement of supreme court that certain SC st categories should be declared as creamy layer who are socially and economically more powerful than few general category....I feel sad about the fact that there are many generals who are not from rich family but still they have to pay a lot more applications fees for exams as well as fees for courses is also high for them..atleast this point should be considered...I think educational fees should be atleast on the basis of economic condition..this is the bare minimum we(general) are asking for. .....
Incredible 🎉
I completely agree with u with no bars hold
Mai bus ye soch raha tha ki is topic pe Dhruv Rathee, Soch by mohak kya ye log video banayenge 😂 kabhi nai q ki is topic se unka koi fayda nai hone wala.
If elimination of Reservation didn't happen soon. And worse if it increased. India will see the worst situation it has since independence.
You can't suppress the deserving for long time.
विनाशकाले विपरीत बुद्धि।
True for empires too. When intelligence are against anything it destroys it always
*Talking as if there's one hundred percent reservation. The obcs are equally intelligent. Are the the 75% intellectuals sleeping. Dont try to shift the blame of selfishness of your leaders on reservation.*
@@prajakt0789 If reservation is not based on financial condition but Caste then It simply means reservation is being given to those who are stupids, if it were to be given to less privileged then the parameters should not be by birth but by finances and/or occupation.
@@thepathakarpit You don't understand the concept of representation through reservation. Calling entire community stupid your intellect is highly questionable. Elect better learned representatives. Reservation is not the problem. Resources eating leaders are.
@@prajakt0789 I am just saying what is.
@@thepathakarpitaccording to you they are stupids which is because your ancestors didn't treat them as humans for many years. Have compassion for your fellow citizens. They are not against you. They want to be part of the society and thrive.🙏
Data at any form is needed for sure. Thanks to Mandal Commission, the situation of OBCs has improved a little. But the Ram Rath Yatra & the Ayodhya movement was created to divert from these.
Brahmin Savarnas invented & reinforced Caste system for hundreds of years. Hence, Caste divide is nothing new - it exists in various forms in both villages as well as in Cities.
Getting Caste census will create caste divide is a bogus argument. The idea should be to empower the marginalized people & bring them to positions of power.
Thanks to Brahmin Savarnas occupying positions of power in Judiciary & legislative, the schemes have never benefited the people. Caste census will bring in the data & will help in bridging the gap tgat currently exists.
Well done Bihar govt.
If aren't liable of that position, then why you want that position
@@nareshshingote8081 Do people join after securing 0 marks or without appearing any examination?
What do you think that Indian people who went to US or Australia & settled there went on the basis of merit?
* Read Diversity & Inclusion policy you'll understand that merit is just one of the parameter & not the only parameter.
Bhai 1 nu ..deep analysis ❤❤
Very good analysis ❤
इस caste census के साथ ही Bihar विकसित देशों की गिनती में शामिल हो गया 😂😂😂
tum manuwadion ki pol khul gyi hai tum 15% ho😅
The British Supdt. of 1921 Census: “We pigeon-holed everyone by caste and if we had no true caste for them, labelled them with the hereditary occupation.. We are largely responsible for the system we deplore.”
hey can i get the data of Obc representation in central services ??u can attach it to desciption also becoz i am not able to access it from niti ayog and datagov sites
Brother most of his figures shown are inconsistent, misleading facts, I cared to check the data according to his furnished data, Group A OBC officers is not 17% it is group D that is 17% group A is somewhat 5% he should go through his own data before publishing such figures and it's shameful how people in comment are against reservation census
Sir straight forward baat yeh hai kii hme creamy later ko identify krne ki jrurt hai so that ki log bhi na lde and shi se reservation ka benefit unko mile jinko lina chahiye but koi bhi government apni power ko stake prr lgakr yeh nhi krna chahti and na hi kbhi kregi agr krti hai then hat's off to them kyunki isse hme directly pta chl jaega kii kon reservation deserve krta hai firr chahe woh general ka hi kyun naa ho it doesn't matter i mean poor to general ke bhi log ho skte hain naa and secondly jo log bol rhe hain kii caste ke naam prr abuse kiya jata hai use as a gaali bola jata hai bhai reservation jbb ussi caste ke naam prr milti hai tbb to kisi ko problematic lgti nii and yrr main saara desh nhi ghuma huun but m 20 years old and aaj tkk maine sach me aisa discrimination nhi dekha hai na hi school mein na hii college mein to mere liye thoda awkward bhi hai ise accept krna kii hrr jagah same situation hai
Caste politics is dividing. Hindutva is unifying. What a hypocrisy sirjee
Kon madrchod jisne caste banaya
We ( generals ) from different states come together and make a petition against this .. otherwise we can't get into public service..😢😢. These caste politics need to be stopped... or you can see migration of generals from this country... 50% reservation is enough but now it is 60% .. and this will reach to 90% upcoming yrs.😢😮😢😢
🙂i think gen category demand a different nation🥲🥲
Didn't knew about it, thank you
Why can't be reservation individual/family based, irrespective of caste ?
Govt should help the people who are economically backward...to uplift from the extreme proverty. Everyone ( general , st,sc,obc, tribals no tribals) should get this benifit. And the enrollment in the educational sectors should be on the basis of merits and talents.
A simple solution for everyone.
Gov won't do that
Caste System is only dividing our BHARAT. Education and Medical k ilaava kuch bhi free nahi hona chahiye.. Caste system ko eliminate krne k liye reservation nahi .. sirf strict rules ki jrurat hai..
Being a Bihari it does feel bad that politicians feels proud of the fact that Biharis have to leave his house and settle in different places..
We want to work in our state but unfortunately no industries are their.
They only work in caste based politics.😢
Kya bata sakte ho ki jayadatar application forms m religion show karna kyo mandatory hai?
And religion politics destroying India
Politicians working only for their benefit are not good for the country.
Which religion politics btw? There are only abrahamics who are vote banks
@@openletterytyou mean?
Obc itni backward h doctor ki jagah bagat ke pass jaati h😂😂
Caste census data does not divide people. It only brings out the already existing divide among communities, who identify by religion and caste.
The concept of Caste division itself is not Indian, it's a superimposition of Spanish/Portuguese caste system and English Class system on India, with the objective of dividing the natives and use them against each other while English hold power and work as a mediator.
Caste was a pyramid scheme which Europeans sold to Indians via their English imposition in Indian society to divide Indians into groups/ghettos and make them fight with each other.
So don’t mixup Varna with Gotram, Varna is Profession, and Gotram is Lineage.
जाति बनायी मलाई खाई अब दर्द हो रहा है
Jaati apnayi hi kyu tune ???
Aur pichle 80 saal se itni jaatiwad ki rajneeti ki uska kya fayda hua tumhe ??
Last मे हग दिए भाई (यहां बायस हो गए थोड़ा बहुत तो castiesm है तुम्हारे अंदर😢)
Behtreen viedo aur bahut hi important information apne di aise hi aur viedo cast ki history par ....digiye ....
I'm from OBC. I always fill form in general bcoz I can do excellence without reservation
#BOYCOTT CAST Reservation system.
Let it be pure like a river flowing into ocean.
Merit basis is a true path if we want to see our NATION GROW
3:50 making of adhar card was too not so easy for us but it happening....
Why not caste survey is possible in this technological advanced society 😂
Reservations and All THE things are Very complicated and should be very scientifically Studied and implemented
But i dont understand one thing... all sub caste are competing in an open reservation. How is one sub caste depriving reservation of the other sub caste?
Excellent video!! Sharing ahead 🙏😊
Thanks a million 😅
India has been divided on the basis of CASTE ever since they were instituted socially centuries ago and codified in the Manusmriti. Constitutinal safeguards of reservations and caste census is an attempt to remedy that malady. If you have a problem with it then blame caste system not what is supposed to correct it.
@@Rakshita442 - Repost in English.
Nothing can fix napunshakata!
@Aastha.12345 - The biggest impotence is caste.
Constitution is biggest impotent in india
Article 14 15 16 17 has already finished ills of caste system
Why did u change thumbnail of this video?
I belong to SC caste from Maharashtra. my grandfather was very poor and could not even afford to provide normal food and clothes to my father. we had no land or asset as such. Because of poor living standards and zero financial support my father could not pursue higher education and thus failed 12th std. he started doing labor work on daily wages for around 30rs daily. as my grandfather was ill and retired all the responsibilities had to be fulfilled by my father. with just 30rs of daily wage he somehow managed himself to get married and as well as marry off his 3 sisters. when he used to get done from work while coming back his financially stable lower middle caste and few upper caste friends use to spend money on alcohol and dance bar. but he saved every penny he could and later on became a civil contractor. since then he started earning well and started investing in lands and real estate. now he owns 3 lands and one flat all on his own. he put me and my 2 brothers into good schools and did not use the benefit of reservation as we were financially good. he always said we are not taking reservation just so the one who really needs it can take the benefit of it. Also, i forgot to mention during his childhood he had to beg to get food for his family and faced a lot of discrimination from upper caste people.
It's good that you people are not taking reservation.
Last month news.
1) Students refused to eat school meal cause it was prepared by a SC
2) A man beaten to death for drinking from well.
3) A Dalit man killed for buying a house next to a Temple. (Happened in a tier 2 city not some rural village)
Fix such stuffs and reservation will end.
This video is mainly about OBC.
Problem exists but isn't the solution creating a new problem..does it REALLY solves the problem?
I'll tell you more news:
1) 17 bramhins from 3 families forcefully made to eat meat .Their house was near a chamar village.
2) a pandit walking to temple with all the pooja samgri beaten stripped of clothes,janeyu,tilak by members of bhim army
3) bramhin girl married to a bhartiya(st) beaten till death by in laws because of casteist hatred.
4) tiwari women went to shadi yadav man teased her inappropriately.she shouted at him.later the night he came with his buddies beat the family up and forced the woman to apologize.when brother in law filed case against him another neighboring yadav inspector with no goddamn relation with them threatened them to take the case back
You didn't tell soucre, I'll tell you :
1) happened on 23rd dec outskrits of kandhra,MP
2) 15 jan 2024 allahpur prayagraj up
3)bhilaai niharganj
4)next to my fucking house ,3 days ago.
Want more??
Exclusive hatred towards other caste exists in everycaste.
Everyone thinks the are superior.
I challenge you go get the census of caste based hatred towards bramhins and sc st.
1.5 to 2% of the population is somehow managing to discriminate against such a large population.👏👏
The news is not highlighted doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
So go and register a complaint in police station, rather than asking reservations
@@gksquad2024 then u should not cry bcz we are getting that 😂
Jitni Abadi Utna Tax
How much tax is on temple donation income ?
@@Abhishek_Seth100 among all religious places only temple pay taxes.
@@Abhishek_Seth100better than what mosques and churches pay probably hehe
Only unbiased youtuber ❤❤
I found your vedio on cast system the best vedio... But no one talk like you
इतने caste census हुए, फिर भी 90% लोग वही के वहीं है। इससे अच्छा विश्वस्तरीय अस्पताल, स्कूल, सड़क, रेल, बिजली पानी कर देते ।
सभी लोग उसका इस्तेमाल करते।
1. RELIGION BASED POLITICS SUITS CONGRESS, BJP, BUT CASTE BASED POLITICS SUITS REGIONAL PARTIES LIKE RJD, SP, BSP ,LJP, Etc. 2. IF CASTE SYSTEM IS GOOD FOR INDIAN SOCIETY THEN, NO ONE SHOULD BE AFRAID OF CASTE CENSUS. 3. AND IF CASTE SYSTEM IS BAD FOR INDIAN SOCIETY THEN GOVT. SHOULD ENCOURAGE INTERCASTE MARRIAGES. 4. NOWADAYS SC, ST , OBCs, ARE CLEVER ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND BJP'S POLITICS. FIRST OF ALL BJP UNITE THEM ( SC, ST, OBCs) IN THE NAME OF HINDU TO GET THEIR VOTE. BUT ONCE THEIR VOTES ARE TAKEN THESE COMMUNITIES ARE NOT GIVEN THEIR ACTUAL RIGHTS.
Then don't vote for bjp, most sc st obcs are not idiots like you
Inter caste marriages are about preference 😑
I want to applaud you with a grand clamour, my friend...you hit the rightest possible point in this entire fiasco...
Loved the work!!!🩵🩵🩵