I thought the SR40 had better highs, while the SR25 had more lows. To confirm, I looked at the frequency response graphs. Sure enough, the SR40 is flat past 20kHz but has LF roll-off below 100Hz, while the SR25 has HF roll-off at 15kHz but is flatter in the LF range. It's kind of a toss-up depending on the music, but I do prefer the SR25's tom sounds. Plus the SR25 is significantly less expensive (but still expensive). Makes the DK3 look like a great way to go, if you're okay with not mic'ing every drum individually. Of course, it helps that you're running the mics into the 1024. I wonder how they'd sound going into a Focusrite Scarlett, heh.
It's crazy because at a point it's not even "can you play it?" it's "can you think of it?" Like, I can play everything in this video if i memorized what he played, but I'd never be able to come up with it myself.
Watching play drum is a delight! Where and how did you learn to play like this ? What is your background? I really would like to know :) (sorry if you already answered to this question)
No no, you’re definitely not self taught. The rudiments used, mechanical efficiency in your technique, french grip, transition from buzz to double stroke roll. 5 and 7 stroke rolls ending on the kick. Tip of the hat to ya, kid. Keep groovin’ you Lil’ Max Roach.
Beautiful mics!.....I've always been into colored sound thing, mics, pres, comps. But when you hear an extremely high quality transparent uncolored mic, you get why they're so desirable!. With the SR40s I could hear that subtle top end extension with individual hits. You sense more of that impact of the tip of the stick For some reason I couldn't really hear the difference with the full kit playing?. Wonder if it's because of the way the brain processes a single sound source as opposed to many at once??. LOVE the those bone dry Istanbuls!! .....like 90% cacao chocolate ;:-) Did you eventually change out the original batter head on the 28 Ludwig??
To my ears, and with these headphones, that SR40 is tighter and flatter. The SR25 has a bit of room /ambiance in it. Both are killer. The winner, of course, is that bass drum tuning :()
Great playing , such creative ideas. Are the two cymbals and the hi hats all Istanbul Agop Signature model cymbals? They sound great too. Thanks for another video.
Both sound great and disappear. Fun to compare--and fun to listen to some sweet sweet druumsmusic. the SR40 seems to have a little less upper mid presence but more top extension and a more natural sound. 2 cents at best.
I know what you mean. If those are the Vic Firth surdo mallets, then no. There are not any beads in them. I believe it was a slight attack from the heads. The core of the mallets can produce a slightly articulated sound.
Wow, very subtle difference between the two mics (I’m sure even more so because we’re listening to the audio through TH-cam). I just bought the Earthworks DK3 kit (with the SR25 mics) a few weeks ago. Although they’re not really working for me in a 3-mic configuration as I had hoped, I’m much happier with them when I’m mic’ing all the drums individually and using the SR25s as overheads. And I bet I’d like the SR40s even more, except, you know, too late for me. Thanks for the demo, though.
I like what I'm hearing but I need to use my UE over-ear Headphones before I make this switch. I'm not feeling my Shure mics and definitely need to upgrade. I see Sweetwater has some decent prices. Now that mic Earthworks mic preamp is pretty pricey. I'm gonna go with my UAD Apollo stuff- X4, ETC.)
no clear winner for me. i liked the tom sound from 25, but slightly preferred 40 for other stuff. both sound pretty similar as far as mic comparisons go
Dear Carter, can you please give me an idea of what made you change the room setup? Why did you turn to sit in front of the diffusor wall instead of previous absorbers? Really thinking of what I should choose for the wall behind me... Thanks again - so happy to see you in your rehearsal room...
SR25 is a smidge chunkier and more direct sounding in my opinion. Not particularly surprising, cardioid vs hypercardioid. I have always used the omnis by preference, particularly with any sort of flat frequency measurement / transparent sort of application.
Any chance of demonstrating a Bronze snare. I’m thinking of getting one. The various demonstrations of bronze on TH-cam, all sound different. Ludwig , Gretsch and Tama, seem to sound the best, but you don’t know what processing has been done, for a true sound... Thanks.. 👍🏿
Depends on what style of music you're playing. I think the gretch bell brass is so freaking good for rock or heavier music. Tama star reserve brass is great all around... super versatile. Ludwig chrome over brass is good for jazz or classic rock. But honestly any of them are going to be great. Brass snares are great. I love em. Ludwig definitely is the cheapest if that matters.
Carter McLean thanks for releasing this! I was just reading up on your mic setup earlier today. So is the last minute or so of the vid, where you add the caption of which mic is being heard, are both mics being captured in the same position (the 40 and 25 are both being recorded from the overhead of the Glyn Johns) or more so the 25 is the overhead and the 40 is capturing the sound out front of the kick? Thanks!!
These mics are almost indistinguishable to my ears. Maybe a smidge more clarity in the top end of the SR40 and maybe tiny bit more bottom end on the SR25. Very slight
@@user-DeadSelf Yeah, some people just have to be dickheads cause they feel small themselves. I have no insecurities. Doubt this clown could afford the gear that I have. Can't go wrong with either mic though. Earthworks is awesome stuff! Defnitely looking to switch up from my Audix collection....
Always great to hear Carter telling stories on the drum set! Thumbs up!
i love how im watching this as if im going to ever be in the situation of picking between these mics...
I thought the SR40 had better highs, while the SR25 had more lows. To confirm, I looked at the frequency response graphs. Sure enough, the SR40 is flat past 20kHz but has LF roll-off below 100Hz, while the SR25 has HF roll-off at 15kHz but is flatter in the LF range. It's kind of a toss-up depending on the music, but I do prefer the SR25's tom sounds. Plus the SR25 is significantly less expensive (but still expensive). Makes the DK3 look like a great way to go, if you're okay with not mic'ing every drum individually.
Of course, it helps that you're running the mics into the 1024. I wonder how they'd sound going into a Focusrite Scarlett, heh.
How good can someone get? Dang...
Smoothest cat in the game.
It's crazy because at a point it's not even "can you play it?" it's "can you think of it?"
Like, I can play everything in this video if i memorized what he played, but I'd never be able to come up with it myself.
This is sooooooo good!!! I'll always use your sounds as a template cause MAN they sound GOOOD!!
Earth, Works & Fiiiire 🔥
Amazing!!!! 👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏
Great hug, from Brazil.
Man do those luddies sound great!!!!
Watching play drum is a delight! Where and how did you learn to play like this ? What is your background? I really would like to know :) (sorry if you already answered to this question)
Self taught. Just played to albums and LISTENED
Carter McLean
So much for those who say you must learn and read music.
My 2 favourites, Buddy Rich and Ringo, did neither...!
No no, you’re definitely not self taught. The rudiments used, mechanical efficiency in your technique, french grip, transition from buzz to double stroke roll. 5 and 7 stroke rolls ending on the kick. Tip of the hat to ya, kid. Keep groovin’ you Lil’ Max Roach.
I love these little drum odysseys.
Incredible!! I love your videos!!!
those drums sound amazing tuned high
Sounds great, Carter! That copper phonic sounds so good👍
It’s a 1928 mahogany Ludwig
Beautiful mics!.....I've always been into colored sound thing, mics, pres, comps. But when you hear an extremely high quality transparent uncolored mic, you get why they're so desirable!.
With the SR40s I could hear that subtle top end extension with individual hits. You sense more of that impact of the tip of the stick For some reason I couldn't really hear the difference with the full kit playing?. Wonder if it's because of the way the brain processes a single sound source as opposed to many at once??.
LOVE the those bone dry Istanbuls!! .....like 90% cacao chocolate ;:-)
Did you eventually change out the original batter head on the 28 Ludwig??
Yup diplomat fiberskyn is what you are hearing. Drum is 👌🏻👌🏻
@@cartermclean Ahh....I've never used a fiber diplomat before. That is such a sweet instrument!. You should take the original head and frame it :-)
DyNaMiCs!
To my ears, and with these headphones, that SR40 is tighter and flatter. The SR25 has a bit of room /ambiance in it. Both are killer.
The winner, of course, is that bass drum tuning :()
Great playing , such creative ideas. Are the two cymbals and the hi hats all Istanbul Agop Signature model cymbals? They sound great too. Thanks for another video.
I guess its a 22" or 24" Agop 30th Anniversary on the right and a 20" Signature on the left. 15" or 16" Siganture hats.
Both sound great and disappear. Fun to compare--and fun to listen to some sweet sweet druumsmusic. the SR40 seems to have a little less upper mid presence but more top extension and a more natural sound. 2 cents at best.
Beautiful Demo!
Sounds beautiful! Did those mallets in the beginning have some “shaker” in them - or am I imagining that?
Michael Farrell hi hat
I know what you mean. If those are the Vic Firth surdo mallets, then no. There are not any beads in them. I believe it was a slight attack from the heads. The core of the mallets can produce a slightly articulated sound.
That maraca mallets are vic firth, but unfortunatly are discontinued. Other brands make it too
If I'm not mistaken, I believe Creative Percussion makes a pair of shaker mallets like this.
Wow, very subtle difference between the two mics (I’m sure even more so because we’re listening to the audio through TH-cam). I just bought the Earthworks DK3 kit (with the SR25 mics) a few weeks ago. Although they’re not really working for me in a 3-mic configuration as I had hoped, I’m much happier with them when I’m mic’ing all the drums individually and using the SR25s as overheads. And I bet I’d like the SR40s even more, except, you know, too late for me. Thanks for the demo, though.
I like what I'm hearing but I need to use my UE over-ear Headphones before I make this switch. I'm not feeling my Shure mics and definitely need to upgrade. I see Sweetwater has some decent prices. Now that mic Earthworks mic preamp is pretty pricey. I'm gonna go with my UAD Apollo stuff- X4, ETC.)
no clear winner for me. i liked the tom sound from 25, but slightly preferred 40 for other stuff. both sound pretty similar as far as mic comparisons go
Superbly executed my friend. Always look forward to your videos, Carter.. Is that the "20 or the "18 bass drum in this video ?
18” 👍🏻
@@cartermclean Awesome 👍
Dear Carter, can you please give me an idea of what made you change the room setup? Why did you turn to sit in front of the diffusor wall instead of previous absorbers? Really thinking of what I should choose for the wall behind me... Thanks again - so happy to see you in your rehearsal room...
Carter how did you positioned the mics? And how much mic?
Best technique going
joder sound so so good
SR25 is a smidge chunkier and more direct sounding in my opinion. Not particularly surprising, cardioid vs hypercardioid.
I have always used the omnis by preference, particularly with any sort of flat frequency measurement / transparent sort of application.
Boa ! Gosto das suas aplicações . Forte abraço aqui do Brasil
@Carter what cymbals do you play here? And what is your secret behind this awesome bass drum sound? :)
what wizardry did I just witness at 5:42
yeah I really like your solos
Bravooooooooooooooooo
Awesome jam! do you recommend using ear plugs for beginner drummers?
YES!!! Protect your hearing. Get ear filters made
nice job man1
Any chance of demonstrating a Bronze snare.
I’m thinking of getting one.
The various demonstrations of bronze on TH-cam, all sound different.
Ludwig , Gretsch and Tama, seem to sound the best, but you don’t know what processing has been done, for a true sound...
Thanks.. 👍🏿
Depends on what style of music you're playing. I think the gretch bell brass is so freaking good for rock or heavier music. Tama star reserve brass is great all around... super versatile. Ludwig chrome over brass is good for jazz or classic rock. But honestly any of them are going to be great. Brass snares are great. I love em. Ludwig definitely is the cheapest if that matters.
I personally liked the SR40 more. What was the recording position? Thanks Carter!
Looks like the Glyn John’s method.
3:55
Ocean ma-
YES DUDE
I heard in the Ludwig podcast that you recorded a solo record entirely of drums. Where can I find it? I would very much love to hear it lol.
Email me cartermclean@gmail.com
I feel like the SR40 are more precise and cleaner than the SR25
3:58 i hear Fool In The Rain in that bit
Can anyone tell me what kind of rudiments he’s using at 4:30 ? Sounds amazing
doubles and paradiddles
Where did the drum tuning video go? I can't find it on channel
Dumb question maybe, but your doing a mono overhead comparison with the 2 mics right?
The comparisons is mono oh and into is a Glyn Johns kinda thing
Carter McLean thanks for releasing this! I was just reading up on your mic setup earlier today. So is the last minute or so of the vid, where you add the caption of which mic is being heard, are both mics being captured in the same position (the 40 and 25 are both being recorded from the overhead of the Glyn Johns) or more so the 25 is the overhead and the 40 is capturing the sound out front of the kick? Thanks!!
With cymbals are using for this video?
hey, im making beats rn, can i sample some parts of this vid?
@Carter McLean is that an 16" Bassdrum?
14x18” Ludwig legacy maple
watching this as if i could ever afford either
If you continue to think/speak like that, then yeah...you probably won't ever be able to afford either.
@@lordhammerwind whoa, you're right! I decided to think about having money and now I'm rich and I own 30 of them!! thanks xoxo
@@adriansympson See?!!! Easy, right?!!! 😂😂😂
These mics are almost indistinguishable to my ears. Maybe a smidge more clarity in the top end of the SR40 and maybe tiny bit more bottom end on the SR25. Very slight
@@user-DeadSelf Yeah, some people just have to be dickheads cause they feel small themselves. I have no insecurities. Doubt this clown could afford the gear that I have. Can't go wrong with either mic though. Earthworks is awesome stuff! Defnitely looking to switch up from my Audix collection....