Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?

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  • Why did Rosie Ruiz CHEAT the 1980 Boston Marathon?
    On April 21 1980, Rosie Ruiz was awarded first place female at the Boston Marathon. 8 days later, she was stripped of that title after it was declared that she had cheated, and in fact had only run the final mile of the race.
    40 years later, I wanted to understand how and why did Rosie Ruiz cheat the Boston Marathon?
    My sincere thanks to writer Will Cockerell and broadcaster Toni Reavis for their authority and input on this fascinating story.
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  • @Artilectual
    @Artilectual 3 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    Well, that was incredible. Great storytelling. Bravo, well done.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yeah it’s a pretty crazy story - thank you

  • @kagemaru259
    @kagemaru259 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Who remembers on Fresh Prince when Geoffrey ran the marathon but got caught taking a cab to the finish line? Geoffery Butler- THE SHAME OF A NATION!

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      🏃‍♂️ 🚖 oh Geoffrey
      Thank you for watching Kage

    • @stoundingresults
      @stoundingresults ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hey Jeffrey Get me a sandwich...or take a cab.

  • @marksprinkle
    @marksprinkle ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Running a mile feels like a marathon to me too.

  • @carlcounts1
    @carlcounts1 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I've always been a little fascinated about this story. I'm a little surprised she never came clean. I learned as a child that lying is SO exhausting. She could never pull that off today.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for watching and commenting

    • @jspaingreene6350
      @jspaingreene6350 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It IS exhausting! Definitely points to someone with serious problems.

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Considering the rest of her life story, she may well have been a pathological liar.

  • @christophermorgan3261
    @christophermorgan3261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Funny how we remember her name but not the real winner.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      That's a great point Christopher - often it's the unusual or the more 'out of the ordinary' aspects after years of an event that are more widely remembered. Excellent surname by the way.
      Harry

    • @christophermorgan3261
      @christophermorgan3261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@thisisjogon Thanks Harry. I was in Boston at the time but didn't care for the Marathon and fanatic jogging craze then at its peak, esp with "preppies" which Boston is full of. Mor is a phoneme
      for the sea, gan for les gens, "people", Celts, the "people by the sea", we somewhere have Welsh ancestry. Wales is a wonderful place to visit, by the way. I was welcomed home by so many folks!

    • @bidmcms3
      @bidmcms3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Jacqueline Gareau

    • @jbsavluk6691
      @jbsavluk6691 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's the same thing with Tonya harding people remember her but for all the wrong reasons.

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      We don’t remember the real names of any winners of that long ago though. If she didn’t cheat, no one would still know the name of the real winner.

  • @pants1359
    @pants1359 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    What a well put together mini doc. Bravo

  • @raywest3834
    @raywest3834 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    A similar story of cheating occurred in the 1968 solo yacht race around the world. The cheater, Donald Crowhurst, had also not intended to win, with all the scrutiny that would entail, but the leading boat broke its mast on the final leg, and Crowhurst's trimaran 'The Teignmouth Electron' slipped into first place, with Crowhurst descending into stress-induced madness. The film 'Deep Water' is a fascinating look at a family man in desperate circumstances, trying to avoid financial ruin, with an unsuitable boat, who gambled his life and reputation, and lost them both.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for sharing

  • @bettstp
    @bettstp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    If she had waited another 20 minutes and crossed in 2:51 she would have probably got away with it

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A great point Timothy - mad to think
      Cheers for watching

    • @sean2015
      @sean2015 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I read somewhere that she never intended to finish first - supposedly she just wanted to finish in the Top 10 and get her name in the papers. But she mis-timed it and jumped into the race too early, thinking the lead female runner had already passed her.

    • @SuperYtc1
      @SuperYtc1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Which makes you wonder, imagine how many people have cheated and gotten away with it.

  • @dyer618
    @dyer618 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Liars caught in a large lie, tend to dig in further into their lie. They rarely fess up and admit they have lied.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It’s amazing isn’t it

  • @teddy1234599
    @teddy1234599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I RAN BOSTON THAT YEAR. I ran qualifying times other years; but not that year. But, I was in the area and so went there and ran it. Highlights: 1) Pre-race, I went 1/4 mile up the course and took a picture of "Boston" Bill Rodgers going by; (then jogged back to the start line and started running from last place.
    2) I passed over 2,000 runners (I counted along the way).
    3) I broke 3:00:00 - so it was a great run for me at that time. (My PR: 2:39:00 in 1981, San Diego Heart of San Diego Marathon - I finished 9th overall there).
    4) THE THRILL: Going past Wesley (Women's) College: both sides of the road were packed with women screaming their heads off for us - neither before nor since have i experienced anything like it!
    5) Totally unexpected, there was chaos and confusion at the finish area when I got there - lots of people knew there was something wrong.
    BY FAR THE strangest post-race scene I ever witnessed. Great elation for most of the runners; mixed with disbelief and anger over Ruiz. (Pictures of her at that time showed a woman NOT at all in condition to run a marathon; much less a world-class one - her thighs were loose / out of shape - like, if she even ran, it wasn't much or serious.)

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you for this Pablo, a fascinating read. I appreciate you watching!
      Harry

    • @teddy1234599
      @teddy1234599 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@thisisjogon You're most welcome.

    • @elizabethgould994
      @elizabethgould994 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you have a TikTok you should story time this

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@elizabethgould994 I do not. I tried TikTok but it wasn’t quite the right format, perhaps I need a TikTok manager

    • @woopiwoo1
      @woopiwoo1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was very cool to read thank you!!

  • @kevincruise3521
    @kevincruise3521 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This is the best video I've seen on The Marathon Cheater. Too long, straight to the details

  • @jspaingreene6350
    @jspaingreene6350 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I just want to clarify - did they ever acknowledge Jacqueline Gareau in any way??? It would be so nice to see them do a formal recognition even now. If Jacqueline Gareau is on the record books, did they give her a medal and a wreath at any point? The prizes aren't so important, but I'm curious. Thank you for an interesting documentary - very well done.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Believe so, but worth researching. Thank you for watching it’s appreciated

    • @jbsavluk6691
      @jbsavluk6691 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I know after Rosie Ruiz was officially disqualified they did another ceremony where they presented the wreath and medal to her. But unfortunately it's not the same thing as if she crossed the finish and been declared the winner. Like Lance Armstrong look at all the people who came in second because of him.

  • @BruceLeroyUK
    @BruceLeroyUK ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wasn’t aware of this particular cheater. Great mini doc.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate you watching

  • @TheDizzleHawke
    @TheDizzleHawke ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love the editing! Well done sir!

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching

  • @g4wfr
    @g4wfr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    A great & interesting video Harry - thank you.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thank you for watching Richard, I appreciate the support very much

  • @geoffhennessy275
    @geoffhennessy275 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember standing at the corner of Hereford St and Boylston and noticing the ADIDAS shirt and thinking “no serious runner wears that.”

  • @writeralbertlanier3434
    @writeralbertlanier3434 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm aware of some Marathon winners but never heard of Rosie Ruiz.
    Interesting video.

  • @cormaconeill1
    @cormaconeill1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Class video Harry

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Appreciate that Callum

  • @riddlescom
    @riddlescom ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I watched the twilight zone marathon in 1980 .
    I got through it. But I was exhausted after.

  • @hellogoodbye4061
    @hellogoodbye4061 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ruiz died a few years back, I heard, and she stuck to her story right to the end.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Absolutely, quite a crazy story. Thank you for watching

  • @alolkoydesigns
    @alolkoydesigns ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't know that part of the story. That is so sad

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for watching

  • @writeralbertlanier3434
    @writeralbertlanier3434 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Rosie Ruiz affair really seems like a script for a Hollywod movie.
    In fact, this really should be a movie based on what ive seen here.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps one day it will. Thank you for watching

    • @writeralbertlanier3434
      @writeralbertlanier3434 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thisisjogon
      Yeah maybe .
      You are welcome.

  • @wvu05
    @wvu05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seeing the way this unfolded and Cloney's reluctance to disqualify her, I can't help but wonder if he was gun shy because of the way they so badly mishandled the Katherine Switzer run in 1967.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for sharing

  • @jess4metoo
    @jess4metoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember in 1980 Genuine Risk(a filly) had won the Kentucky Derby and Johnny Carson joked that perhaps she had also cheated using the subway.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great bit of history

  • @Slop_Dogg
    @Slop_Dogg ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember this story!

  • @Miakel
    @Miakel ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That's one lie that went way out of hand.

  • @simpatico4004
    @simpatico4004 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He sounds like the editor in the first Spider-Man, one of the commentators

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My voice or one of the gentlemen I interview?

  • @LaLaBrave
    @LaLaBrave 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk how i got here but thanks youtube algorithm.
    Gotta say i love the understanding from the others runners here. No vitriol or demonizing hate. What she did was terrible but she probably was just a deeply troubled woman who got in way over her head.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cheers for sharing

  • @richarddixon7855
    @richarddixon7855 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Certainly a big story on NY news at the time.

  • @gerardcooney1810
    @gerardcooney1810 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would make a great Movie.

  • @Shinobi33
    @Shinobi33 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Not the Cuban we want representing our people. I do hope she found peace before and after she passed.

  • @siaracastic2515
    @siaracastic2515 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I love this.

  • @northernninjarunner5506
    @northernninjarunner5506 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow what a sad story

  • @lisapratt329
    @lisapratt329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Heard about her on The Goldbergs 😆

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Lisa, I have no idea what that is, but I love that you watched this, thank you.
      Harry

    • @tellysantos2392
      @tellysantos2392 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lol that's how i found out as well

    • @papadew1964
      @papadew1964 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      me too

    • @NastyWoman1979
      @NastyWoman1979 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thisisjogon an American comedy about the life of an actor/writer/director Adam Goldberg during his childhood and events he captured on film in the 80s.

  • @DonGivani
    @DonGivani ปีที่แล้ว +1

    " What is an interval ?"

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Crazy, thank you for watching

  • @mildredhousefilms
    @mildredhousefilms ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad story

  • @covetprice
    @covetprice ปีที่แล้ว

    Great story...

  • @rawpower12xu
    @rawpower12xu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here because of Joe List 😂

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fascinated to know what or who that is?

  • @EbonAvatar
    @EbonAvatar ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As an amateur marathon runner myself, the idea of cheating like this makes me angry beyond measure. The best part of finishing a marathon is not the congratulations, but the knowledge that you did it, that you actually ran 26.2 miles. I can't imagine cheating and lying about it like this, the whole time knowing you didn't do it

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wild isn't it

    • @wvu05
      @wvu05 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Indeed. I ran two in a very slow time at 18 and 19, and I haven't run one since because of how out of shape I was leading up to the second (you could choose at the race for the latter if you wanted to run the full or half at around the 10-mile mark, and if my roommate wasn't cheering me on at that exact spot, I almost certainly would have decided "this isn't my day, so I'll just do a half"), but I'd _never_ think of doing a shortcut and claim I ran the whole thing.

  • @pete6705
    @pete6705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I have a fascination with famous liars. My favorites are Elizabeth Holmes, Tania Head, and Rosie Ruiz

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Appreciate you watching Pete

    • @Heccasav
      @Heccasav 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Casey Anthony was the worst

  • @patactually
    @patactually ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Not sure how I got here. But a very interesting story!

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you got here and thank you 🙏

  • @christopherperez6761
    @christopherperez6761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this is a screenplay

  • @bev9708
    @bev9708 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    BRAVO... that is the best video about Rosie Ruiz I've seen, and your emphasis on compassionate understanding rather than superior judgement is an example to us all!!!! I'm extremely moved!!! I'm so happy to subscribe and check out more of your channel!!!

  • @sandraandrews9907
    @sandraandrews9907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I do remember this very well in my teens. I just was wanting to know WHY?! If she had just admitted her fault, her life could've gone better. Such a shame that Ms. Ruiz took that lie to her grave. Also, I felt bad for Ms. Garceu (sic). To be the rightful winner and not getting the rightful spotlight, her just 🎉🎉. She knew what an interval was. She was the rightful winner.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A crazy story, thank you for watching

  • @bfgolf
    @bfgolf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great job on the video, all the main points in 10 mins.

  • @sallylovesparkrun
    @sallylovesparkrun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Fascinating. Really enjoyed that, Harry, thank you.

  • @kyledonoghue5660
    @kyledonoghue5660 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    First

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Impressive Kyle. Hope you enjoy it took a while to create!

    • @tednorberto3086
      @tednorberto3086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I don't see no sweat on you.

  • @megofiachra3247
    @megofiachra3247 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your explanation makes a lot of sense.

  • @alexraymond5572
    @alexraymond5572 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this was tremendous. perfect ppl to interview.

  • @earljohnson2676
    @earljohnson2676 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ran track in high school in the 80’s south of Boston oh this is all coming back forget about a lot of this especially after the Tom Brady era

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing and watching!

  • @olivierauberger
    @olivierauberger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's hard tu run a mile while pretending you ran 25 miles before that.

  • @SurvivorIce
    @SurvivorIce ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had she waited and let couple women pass before jumbing into the race and finish 4th or 5th. Would people notice she cheated?

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Far less likely, but who knows

  • @Littlejoys24
    @Littlejoys24 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love this video, I’d love to see more running history videos from you Harry - you’re a great storyteller

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Olivia, there are some ideas floating around

  • @M-DVD
    @M-DVD หลายเดือนก่อน

    And Did She even fake to be almost dying-tired while crossing the finish? woah

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s a crazy story

  • @BigCrashTrackLoop
    @BigCrashTrackLoop 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fascinating. Good editing too. Really like the way you cut back and forth between the interviewees.

    • @thisisjogon
      @thisisjogon  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it, and thank you for commenting

  • @stanleyhape8427
    @stanleyhape8427 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a crazy story. Thanks for filling in the details. 👍
    This theme has been replayed in so many sitcoms.

  • @DG-nn8zt
    @DG-nn8zt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Lol what was she thinking haha