INFINITE Upgrades On Super Mines Are ABSURD! (Bloons TD 6)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2023
- INFINITE Upgrades On Super Mines Are ABSURD! BTD6 / Bloons TD 6 - in this run of more ascended upgrades, we try some spicy towers in a quest to see if it can hypothetically survive infinite rounds on only a limited income source! Featuring of course the super mines, big plane and more.
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Do Perma-spike and spike storm next, and go more evenly between the paths. A spike's total damage is damage*pierce, so upgrading pierce is actually useful with spike factories unlike other towers
you do know isab has no idea how the spike factory actually works and refuses to read comments actually analyzing it, right? and the same with damage as a whole? theres a reason he uses Biggest One and Spike storm, two of the three worst upgrade paths in the game, and uses the objectively worse upgrade path on inferno ring
@Pat Richards biggest one and ss are both good tho what
@@F14thunderhawk man really used 2 good towers as examples for bad towers xdd
@@akoya5139 yeah it's kinda niche but has huge cheap damage potential for chimps when used properly, don't know what this guy is talking about.
@@F14thunderhawk 🤓
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You wrote his name wrong, it's YZEB.
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@@Riawil2 yzed
It's Eyesab mah dude
A challenge idea with this mod: the only damage you can do to bloons is with a single glue gunner. You can have as many farms as you want. Can you beat round 100?
The short answer is no, glue gunner's damage is not enough to kill the bad, even on logs
Oh nvm, it's with this mod
Cool idea!
I'm not sure the mod scales the glue damage speed but worth a try
@@hansg9826 with super glue it probably scales since the glue does dmg per hit
The upgrades are ADDITIVE, not Multiplicative. The formula is 1 + level * bonus. As the commenter who caused this confusion in the first place, I apologize. I was trying to convey that adding damage + speed + pierce is a powerful combination, but clearly it could've been worded better.
Edit: It appears the increase IS actually multiplicative. I saw this line of code:
var mult = 1 + __instance.increase;
but I misunderstood this line:
damageModel.damage *= mult;
What the first shows is the variable mult being defined as the value 1.1 in this case. Then it modifies the damage of the tower by multiplying by 1.1. What I misunderstood is that the tower damage change is saved after each iteration; the function runs for every upgrade that the tower gets.
tldr: Whoopsie
lol
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And because of this, it might be possible to lose even with infinite farms. Maybe get the round skip mod?
Lol
oof
I remember the days when super mines was a meme considered as the worse tower in the game, its amazing to see it has grown so much
I noticed that the bug is that only the T5 path doesn't cost 2x. The cross paths cost 2x.
That's pretty neat, I wish this was more visible and didn't let you waste money tho lol
If u look at 8:40 when he buys the spike factory the upgrades dont show up until he gets the cross path so i think its just a bug that everything costs 2x
8:35*
The tac zone did not have a mib for the f ddts at the end there when testing the super buffed tac zone
Now, let's see how long a Vengeful lasts with ascended upgrades
4 th dimensional infinity 😅
At least round 4
@@shadelightss u cant get vtsg on round 4 so we'll never know
@@meisnewperson but you can tho with alot of cash drops
@@meisnewperson apopalypse mode disagrees with you
I wonder how powerful/helpful this would be in boss events, given that you have lots of money. It could even make non-paragons viable… maybe
if you had a couple million maybe you could probably solo elite bosses with a single tower, we saw what archmage did last video (albeit with somewhat ridiculous upgrades)
I kinda wanna see how long ascended upgrades can survive in a game with infinite farms. Similar to like how the paragons did. I wonder if ISAB included the round skip mod, a tower with 100x ascended upgrades on each category would survive tough rounds like round 10000.
With how bloons health go up exponentially and how the ascended upgrades are linear, you'll need a lot more than 100x upgrades to even reach round 10000.
(Edit) Nvm Isab cleared up the fact that the upgrades aren't linear. According to him, they are multiplicative, so they go up by 1.1x, and now I can see how strong the upgrades can get.
1.1 to the power of 100 is about 13,000 , 13,000 sqaured is 169,000,000[since there are 2 categories that increase dps exponetially pierce/range doesn't increase dps after a certian point] so a tower would have 169 million times it's base dps. Crazy!
Round 10000 isn't that tough, quincy solos round 10000. Nothing gets past his bow!
He tried that in last video already though?
100/100/100 Tower melts round 999 easily.
@@BossTyphlosion bloon help doesn't go up exponentially, they go up linearly, and ascended upgrades grow N^2 for things that aren't sentry paragon or spike factories, N^3 for spacs, and N^4 for sentry paragon
I want to see inferno ring in this mod, infinite range on it, just imagine
Thank you so much for these frequent uploads, i always use your video to fall asleep, its kind of a routine now :)
Finally, he figured out the money gets taken twice like I said last video.
We need to see the 555 Spactory with ascended upgrades, and how far it gets
I just tried that and I got well into the 10000s but at some point around damage upgrade 300 the damages flips integer value to negative and thus does no damage, so the spac 555 spac is defeated by a red bloon.
@@kettydreams65 wow, that's interesting
@@kettydreams65 it would be really funny if an unintended consequence of this would be giving the bloons HP back since you're technically subtracting a negative from their HP due to the integer flip.
5-5-5 ascended spactory just switches sides and starts creating super reds
@@Himadpeoples I wonder if we could have a war between super spac making super reds against a super bma
@@theshatteredseas4629 super camo regrow reds
I noticed that, the upgrades that arent on 5 cost twice the amount then the ones that are on 5
so 025 tack zone would cost twice on the first and second path but normaly on the last
as for the spike 520 the first path cost the normal amount and the rest twice
Love your vids, you’re definitely one of my favorite TH-camrs by far keep up the amazing videos!
This is definitely one of those mods that can absolutely be implemented as a realistic feature
Thank you isab, for popping bloons with ascended upgrades of the towers
You should do any tower you want, and use max farms to see just how long 1 tower can last.
little does isab know pierce is the most op thing a spike factory can get
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12:30 on that note, you should’ve tried the True Sun God with max sacrifices from two categories.
Didnt we learn from the spike factory paragon mod that pierce = damage for the spikes because it just lets them hit more times? So wouldnt the ascended force be extremely good for the extra pierce?
We need to see how a sentry champion goes when it has insane attack speed
Ray of doom with ascended upgrades might be insane! Also I think you can change the cost of the extra upgrades in the mod settings if the cost bug is still occurring
thank you isab for showcasing the absurd super mines
I LOVE THEASE VIDEOS THANKS FOR UPLOADING IT MADE MY DAY!!!
keep up the great work!
Boomerang and Ninja would be very neat towers to infini-upgrade.
Dart and Pirate, too.
Thanks for your modding Videos King Isab
I would love to see this but you also use normal buffs as well
Can you do ultimate cross paths with this? That would really spice things up!
Thank you isab for being a bloon popping top g
It'd be amazing if NK actually did add this to the game.
Would make for some pretty interesting 1 tower strategies and challenges.
205 sniper, I think even as a cheap tower it’s scaling would be interesting, especially since it’s attack speed already scales on its own. Might be unironically good if the damage can keep up to shred single targets
Im not sure if anyone noticed this before but at 8:00 the sell price of the ace was 521,670 dollars and the speed upgrade was 18,000 but after the upgrade the sell price was 548,670. that is a total of 27,000 resell value from a 18,000 dollar upgrade value: just a free 9000 out of free air.
Ascended upgrades in a boss event seems like it would be a cool challenge if you did something like 5 towers max and no paragons
It would be sick to see this with 5-5-5 stuff
thank you isab for upgrading super mines infinitely
Besides the obvious issues that should be easily fixed in the infinite upgrades mod, I'd like if you could suggest the DPS modder to add periods every 3 digits to seperate the multiplicatives of thousands, in other words "1.000.000" for a million instead of "1000000" as the periods help identify bigger numbers more quickly, especially useful for a counter that's quickly changing.
Speaking of that: When clicking the counter green button, to also add an option to change the DPS counter changing speed, and more importantly to show more detailed stats like highest DPS ever reached! ♥
Periods? What do you think this is, a European channel? Have them add commas instead like civilized humans.
@@kman6004 I thought of that and commas are for decimal numbers and to separate each group of 3 numbers from then on like "1,500,952" the 500 being half of 1 (the 1 as in 1, 2, 3, not 1 million) and the rest being even called numbers between 0 and 1. It's definitely not a European thing, it's a clarity thing.
I did actually find a really funny bug in the mod that gave moabs/bloons health instead of damaging them and the requirements felt inconsistent but it was around 200 damage buff and 200 attack speed buff. I did some really fun messing around with this but it's really goofy.
Just in case you didn't know the reason for that you might find it interesting: There is a max integer value in computers in general that you can store, and when it gets too high it loops back around to the lowest integer value which is a negative. Damage literally got too high for the game to handle it and it went negative
I personally tested this mod and a 50-50-50 elite sniper is insane
Thank you ISAB for infinitely upgrading the towers to pop the bloons.
The ray of doom could be fun. (High cost + insane about of group damage when on straight line)
I want to see the differences in strength of the 3 snipers with infinite scaling. I don't imagine cripple moab would be very good, but the benefit of the sniper, similar to the super mines, is that it instantly hits and cannot miss the target. I think it would give it a huge edge over most other towers that for example wouldn't be able to accurately hit a DBT.
Great super mining today ISAV
I think that the only way super mines could have lost was if a bloon had ran the entire length of the track before it could put down the first mine of the round
Which to be fair, easily would have happened with round 999 ddts. They complete the track in like a tenth of a second
Round ~4200 ddts exit logs the same frame they spawn
Sentry Expert I'd love to see because it works really well with attack speed buffs!
thank you for upgrading super mines isab
Nooo, I was hoping you would try on a temple ...
Vengeful if possible but yeah, you would have had to use more than 3 towers for the setup.
Besides paragon, I believe we can agree, it is the most expensive tower.
I'd love to try this mod, a lot of mods don't seem to work for me (probably me doing something wrong) but hopefully i could get this one to work
Some towers I'd like to see are the TSG/VTSG, 5-2-0 engi, 0-1-5 druid, and 2-5-0 spac
When you went back to the tack zone you didn’t have MIB so that was the reason the DDTs went straight through
He gave people what they wanted it. Keep it up
I would like to see typically bad towers carry the late game using multiple farms like 052 alchemist
I feel like any tower that is already super expensive benefits massivly form these.
Sentry champion test would be interesting, to see if the sentries are buffed.
If you buy the speed upgrade to the banana farm, it generates more quickly the banana crates
this would be really cool to see with the ultimate crosspathing mod. (worth noting, 555 spike breaks the game after a certain point because of too many spikes.)
I would love to see sentry champion with lots of speed, because that affects the sentry spawn rate too
You should upgrade a vengeful temple, i think thatd be really crazy to see
Try inferno ring it has the fire balls so the speed would add on to the homing (and flaming) death balls.
i think it'd be a cool challenge to allow as much farming as possible but restrict the towers to some really awful ones that can still get through early game on their own
Sentry paragon would be cool. I’m curious if the spawn rate of the sentries will increase, the fire rate of the sentries, or both
Both
Try mortar, both the biggest one and pop and owe will benefit from the pressetnge buffs
7:19 nice "subtle" promotion
The Nactory, the nuclear weapon factory.
Max recursive could be cool. Maybe a max mortar as well but it seems like you need aoe
How would top path engineers work with this? Guess it wouldn't make much of a difference, other than attack speed allowing it to place more turrets? But I might be wrong
Try sniper monke, think if you give it a bunch of ascended upgrades it could almost instantly finish high end rounds
I'm curious about top path glue with the damage increase
Also, middle/bottom path sniper
sentry paragon looking real good with normal max buffs, this attack speed would be NUTS
looks dope
I don't the three tower limit thing. I get wanting to focus on one tower doing all the damage but It just seems so counter-intuitive to not have a bunch of farms on screen when playing this mod
Try boosting the super mines with normal boosts. and or try the 5-3-5 spactory in a normal game if you can to see how long it can actually survive
Thanks isab for using super mines to super mine the bloons
Im not sure if this will work but maybe in the future doing ascended upgrades with non tier5s or ultimate cross paths
imagine super buffed bloon bosses vs towers like the engineer or some weird tower interaction.
Btw, id try upgrading the farm past 1 speed in sandbox just to see if farms actually give more
you can try mortar, that would be pretty funny
I want to know if the Engineer's sentries get the ascended buffs, and if he puts more of them down with speed. If so.... ohhh man.
Thank you isab for
I wonder what new 2TC runs are possible with this mod. Perhaps an idea for a future video?
I wonder what 5-5-5 combine with ascension upgrade could made
I love the modded content!
this seems fun
I wonder how this mod would affect the M.A.D since the damage is multiplicative to the base damage and the M.A.D has high Moab damage woukd it be better or worse than the S mines
No sleep, just watch isab
Very super Isab, now do the BTD
i think each upgrade should scale all upgrades so you have to think long term about what you want
It’s time to see the 5-5-5 + infinite upgrades + golden village spike factory
Do the upgrades on bma, i know it wont affect bads but it would still ne very cool to see how that works with thousands of fzomgs thatd be sick
I Wanna See the M.A.D In Action With this mod. The Fact that The Upgrades are Multiplicative And not Additive Means It Might Outscale The BADS Before they even start Scaling! The Ceramics Tho? Yeah no.
VTSG would be interesting to see
i tried this mod and bloon cruhs is apsulutly nuts
Does the damage upgrade affect the spirit of the forest vines? If it does that would make it plus two farms on logs truly infinite I think.
try biggest one or ring of fire, maybe superstorm & i think u jug on a map like maybe moon landing, plus bma with all attack speed could be funny idk if thatd work tho
Nice vid
Using this on a 555 tower would be fun!
supermines was breaking the integer limit on the dps counter lol
Fun fact: when only using 1 farm the 025 is better than the 520 per round and when late game where the rounds are longer the 250 is better than both (with the ability of course)
a yes the classc bottom path ace the flyin...
ISAB: you mean the sky shredder
It might be a little bland but you should do a boss battle with this mod but you keep the same dps tower for the full game.