Scrapping electric motors. another method
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I might call that the big man big hammer approach. No wasted saw blades, craft knives, or angle grinder blades.
I spent 3 hours on my first small attic fan motor. Took it to scrap and made 18 cents for copper. Wear and tear on tools and $2.00 in gas. Used bolt cutter for loops. Oh well i appreciate the process and saved some landfill.
That's ingenious. I used to cut these copper wiring with an angle grinder. Causes a lot of copper dust and also the cost of the grinding blades. Your way is a whole lot better. No dust. Maybe you could use a car jack to remove the copper strands instead of a hammer. Just an idea.
Either way, nice to see all the motors, it means that you have diverted a lot of appliances/electronics from the landfill. That is why I scrap. Also I like spreading awareness of conservation. Keep it up
Yes scrap metal is so delicious :)
@@aluminumcantheif6557 Nice to see another fellow scrapper....I think the world needs people like us to help take care of our natural resources. Stay well.
@@aluminumcantheif6557 are you going to have content soon?
@@TinManScrapper No. I love scrapping though
@@TinManScrapper Yes! We need to keep the economy alive!
Hi Bert. Lots of copper. Nice video. I'm 62 and have never seen anyone strip motors, until your videos. Thanks for showing us.
There's quite a few ways but I like this way especially when you got the AC on and you don't want all that copper dust flying around
I broke those motors down for a living the absolute fastest way to break those down u put the motor in the vice and cut one whole side off with a angle grinder some times i used a chop saw the chop saw was faster
then i used an air chisel on the other side the whole thing is done in 40 seconds once it is locked down on the vice on the chop saw i timed it when i did it U make real money when u do volume.
great comment! how or where did you get your motors, and how small did you go? Thanks!
Great video, good to know. I was just going to throw away the old motors. Now I can recycle them. Thanks
Thanks for the video! I heard a tip today: use a winch to pull the copper out. So, you'd clamp the stator down, then use hooks probably on chains, running to a clevis likely hooked around the winch hook. You could hang the winch or even do it horizontally! I really like how you noticed there were loops, and just cut the loops with the cable cutters. So much less mess than a saw or angle grinder!
I'm more of a keep it simple sort of gal! A spring and a foot pedal would make your fastest and easiest fix at the moment! OR - have you ever seen the log splitter made with a car spring and counterweight? Also rigging up a boat wench and a hook to pull the copper out rather than banging and prying? I'm a 75 year old woman and have a bunch of motors to scrap! Thanks for the video! You have given me ideas that will ease my labor😁
There's another guy on here I forget his name it took a press frame from a hydraulic press and mounted a winch to it too pull the copper out definitely pretty effortless at that point
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👍👌👏 I'm definitely impressed and very interested to see, with what you came up with.
Best regards luck and health.
Ten four your right I learn something new every time I play with copper
Love the tip of getting copper from a motor even me as a woman could probably do it😊
Hey the king has never figured a effective and easy fast way of doing this
don't get yourself down like that
You could moterize the snippers to either run on a slow rhythm or a foot pedal that You push to make it snip.
Need to make me an Harbor Freight order 😎 I like the pusher rod idea as well - very cool
Genius
Thats the best method yet, great idea. No wasted copper like with a grinder.
grinder i perfect....if ya know how to use it!!
I agree, I've used a grinder (it is fast), and tried to sweep up all the copper dust - gets everywhere. Would prefer to keep the dust and wasted copper to a minimum.
Use a thin 4and half diamond tip blade 20 bucks little to no waste
I love seeing other people's ways, or inventions, to tackle a bit of work. Well done, brother. I used a portaband to cut the one side off, then used a bar to pry on the other side to pry it all thru.
Which type of seal puller
I have a pile of the same kind of motors I am working on now. I been taking apart bigger ones and been finding silver switches with some nice silver disks.
I sometimes am unsure if I should just sell the motors as motor scrap as opposed to getting the copper out but I think it really is worth breaking them all down.
I use wire cutters and sometimes a pocket knife to get all the string off before I pluck the wire. I basically use the wire cutters for everything. Cut the wire, pull the wire etc.
It's hard work no matter how you do it but I enjoy it.
What are the silver disks in
@@rustedratchetgarage6788 I found the disk in the switch. These are big industrial motors. Regular motors have silver in switches too. And there is a little silver in those crimped metal housings that are attached to the wires.
I just save all the silver stuff I will either sell it on eBay in a big lot, try to refine it or just save it up.
This is the video that I started the Scrap Farm journey for me. Always some great tips and lessons to be learned. Thanks SF!
Its amazing how much copper wire came out of that really enjoyed that video Thanks Bert
Takes a little practice but after the other end is cut, place the motor on the ground (not standing upright) and strike the uncut end hard with a hammer. After a few blows the copper will bend downward until the loop takes the full force of the blow and the copper comes right out. That cross pen hammer you have really works good for that job (use the pointed end). I have done that so many times that after the copper is cut I can usually get all the copper out in around 20-30 seconds using the hammer..
great motor strip down for copper - you are sooo right to have the correct tools and life is easy - well easier !!!! well demonstrated and keep safe and greetings from australia !!!!
Great video thank you so much for your time, knowledge and best efforts! that cable cutter is great!
Thanks Bert this is very helpful I’ve had a lot of these popping up so I’ll try your method
hacksaw and a screwdriver is all I have ever needed. goes through the copper like butter and the blade will last forever with how soft copper is. I can normally process motors faster than you did in this video with a lot less physical exertion. But I've also been doing that forever. you get fast with what ever method you use most.
I hear you but also how many 10 horsepower motors do you come across I know I don't come across the lot of them
Good video thanks for making it. I do mine a little differently. I'm a big fan of the 4 in grinder with a diamond wheel. Put the motor in the vise cut the top off and then I use a punch to punch it out. If that doesn't work I take a pair of snips hold it by the wire and I beat on the steel part use gravity in the beating motion to get the wires out.
We cut off one side with a chop saw then put it in a vise and use a seal puller to get the windings out,we have done 200 in about an hour.
Can you show me how?
Yes but then use an air chisel and it will " push" the windings right out.
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Thanks for the idea mate, I will make my own windings removal tool
Great timing. I have a small pile my son (mechanic) left me. I just did one from a 1/2 in. Drill motor. I used aviation ships and a biggy flat tip screwdriver. Ha ha, like a monkey and a football.
Making that fancy bar tomorrow, happen to have the cutter, lucky me
Thanks for that info.
This method works fine with small motors but if you get into the bigger ones it's still better to cut one side of the copper off flush and then beat it out with that bar tool
Interesting to see your copper chopper process. The machine build idea is cool too. Like you said.. would need to have some torque.
Its built in my head...lol. I have a couple different gear reduction box has one is a 5to1 and the other one is a 25 to 1 So between those two boxes one of them will definitely work
2:41 super idee merci!!!
Thanks for this great idea it will make recycle lot easier.
Guillermo from the Dominican Republic. Keep it up, watling for the New proccesor machine.
I use a plumbers chain vice, cut one side off with a sawzall or bsndsaw if it's small enough. Then I use an iron workers spud wrench to pry out the bundle. Bolt cutters also work well to grab and kinda roll it out. Nice idea with the wire cutters. A.c. compressors also have the same stuff inside. Be sure you have a can handy for the oil.
Wow nice stock of motors to scrap.
Best method I've seen, thanks
i did hundreds of these for a friend we had a pretty effective method as well
we used a miter saw cut both ends off then hammered out the sticks took about 5-10 minutes a motor
@@brianbarron5055 Hey Brian, why cut both ends if you're going to hammer out the "sticks". I use a grinder to cut one end then tap out the rest - less waste & mess.
@@geneevans4148 I bet you save Brian a minute is two - hopefully he gained a few brain cells -
Princess Auto is the Canadian Version of Harbour Freight - I go there quite often LOL Great Video Bert !
My 1st job was to break the moters open and knock the the center and then cut the copper of either a petrol still saw and then put the rest into a fire. Would do 30 or 40 a day ..
Loved that job , kept me fit .
here in the USA and some other countries putting copper wire in a fire is illegal and the scrap yards wont take it..
It was 35 years ago when I did that job. And there wasn't much health and safety in them day's. Especially when you worked for your family. ☺
I pass you guys all the time at my local metal recycler. While you're dropping off copper, I'm picking up lead! I melt it and pour into buckshot and slugs. The profit margin is between 400 and 700%. With my wife helping, we can make over $1000 per day.
copper and gold are my most favorite metals
Thatsxa good idea but i cut one side of the windings with a 4 1/2 grinder with a cutting wheel then i beat the wire out like u do good job man like the videos
I do also but with the door shut in the air conditioner on I didn't feel like breathing in 35 Motors worth of copper dust
Hi Bert a lot copper with new toys I do it manually too regards👍👍👍👍🇸🇬
Thanks for the tip , on how to get the wire out
Get that copper brother! Scrap on!
I've copied your prybar thingamadoodle and it works much better than the punch I used, far kinder on the knuckles too. Thanks man!
I’m going to make one of them out of a jack handle the old-school jack handle that would work perfect for making that tool
That is a great idea on the cutting tool.
love the ingenuity! subscribed
Thanks for joining I got a Few good videos out there hope you enjoy them
I use old bypass pruners for cutting my motor copper it works on the same pretense and a punch to knock the wire out .
2:20 NO critism, just a tip:
Put the bucket with the copper srap under it, so you needn´t clean your workshop and save the litte copper pieces.
Greetings from germany
I normally do but with a tripod and My Own by pods in the way there's not enough room
Thank you Germany ! I'm American mostly German - my opa was a German officer when SHitler took control of the German army . Then he sent him to help invade Russia and was killed toward the end of the war . My pa didn't talk about this much , but he was like 10 - war was over and American soldiers would offer to kids " if you find a gun they would give you a candy bar for trade " . Fun fact .
Good job
I like the cable cutter but think about a expanding drawbolt setup with 2 thick plates 1 threaded or nut welded into it and as you tighten the push apart slip them in between windings and steel and use impact to pull
More than one way to skin a cat
I use my 4inch grinder and cut it off one side the use a rod to knock it out and grab it from the opposite it usually comes out pretty easy because I don't have to straighten it out as i pull it the initial cut did that for me . Hope that helps Keep grinding 💪
That's a good way to do it...I use a cutoff wheel to do one side and pound other side out..sucks with the copper dust but worth it in the end #happyscrapping
I've been scrapping for 20 plus years and I do the same thing, but I have to say his method makes less of a mess. Using my cut off wheel throws that copper everywhere.
i bought a set of the HF cable cutters a while back, use them for a lot of different things, I use an air chisel to cut the end's off one side, works good for me, I like the split bar idea think I will give that one a try,
Take that split bar idea and weld it to an old air hammer tool that's a real ticket
split bar wont last,, gone through 2 first 1/2 rod then 5/8,both broke off at the bend,, been using 1/4 flat bar 1 1/4 wide with a V cut in the end,working good aft 6 months use, no problem at all..
@@louisrichards3702 another guy told me about cutting a v out of a wide chisel, so I cut a v into an air chisel bit will do a video of it in a few days if it works good
I love watching you work I have learned a lot
👍👍 Good informational video! Thank you Bert...again!🌞
Great one, kudos bro,I represent Nigeria.
His use of boltcutters was significantly faster than how I've done this using hand cutters. As for his use of a forked tool for pulling out other side, my needle nose pliers and screwdrivers are just as fast.
I don't know when you get to those big industrial ones where the actual field is about 6" thick or more they're pretty difficult to pull out of there.
And they're actually electrical cable cutters not bolt cutters I don't think you could do that with a set of bolt cutters the throat would not open up wide enough I mean maybe
M8 that was some food info that I will try to follow. Keep up the good work. God bless y'al
Excellent way to do it. Awesome
Thanks glad u enjoyed it
Good job Bert a true scraper.
Here's how I did it as a kid...
Torch the pots off, throw the windings in a fire, steel and copper. Drag them out with a rake. Once they've cooled, air chisel one side of the windings off smooth to the steel plates. Sometimes you can use the air chisel to "push" the windings out the other side, otherwise get a small hook to grab and pull the rest through. I like seeing other people's methods. 👍
That's a nice little tool you made.
noice woik! excellent presentation. your skills are many but thats your talent. make more vids!
Great video- thanks for taking time to put together.
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Pneumatic air chisel one end off flat and pull other side through. If Some dont pull, then you can use a dead punch tip and start to drive them through with the air hammer. Giant channel locks pulls good.
I would build a bigger vice type holding set up for the motor once you have got it to the wire removal process, then turn it upside down so you are pounding it down into a capture bucket. Less shaking around and saves you the step of tossing it into your bin. Great work though lad, I just strip electric cables.
I've since been converted to using meat cleaver to hammer motor into 2 halves. That way I get 2 big hunks of Cu tied up instead of having to put everything in a jar.
Thanks for the tips
nice friend, got a lot of copper,
Simple tools sometimes work the best looks like you got it down 👍
Great video thanks B Ert!
Good stuff, Bert!
I'll have to try this. Thanks.
Those motors are a pain to strip but there’s a decent amount of copper in them.
thank you Bert.
Fastest and easiest way is vice it up vertical , cut one side off flat with a recip saw , flip over , wack a allen key through the copper , attach a 500 watt electric winch hook to the bar thats bolted to the roof , press that button and its pulled straight out
Think that's great for a manual tool, demo drill works pretty good for a powered option, need to get around to make a claw so i can pull with it too
Yeah, I did eventually modify a chisel to go into an SDS hammer drill and it works pretty good.
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Good idea for cutting out the copper. You might be able to use a motor from an auto garage door they are geared heavy for lifting. Those blackberries make tasty jam.
Seems to work ! I used to burn them out with a weed torch but I had a pile to get through.
There's a few coppers id like to use that on lol , great work Bert !
That's the easiest way I seen it done.ur smart
Thanks for the video man. This is great advice. Guess where will.be on Saturday? Harbor freight!😀
I've got a 55 gallon barrel almost full of them motors. I'll have to try that.👍
Where do you get motors like that?
@@stevencaseymiller8376 mine come out of a.c. units
if your going to use Elec for the cutter, get a band saw, cut one end off, then pull the clean cut end through
Yeah that's on the list
Use a slitting disc to cut off the end ‘crown’ then make a good wood fire and burn them for an hour ,leave to cool then pull out the wire with no tools, they almost fall apart ,you’re making hard work of doing it your way. You will still get the same price,
The other night while out scrappin, I came across a huge TV with 2 massive deguasing coils. 6 pounds of copper. I've never seen deguasing coils that big before.
How did you dispose of the CRT?
@@raychrl I didnt. The back cover was already off. So I just grabbed the coils and left.
@@E-BikingAdventures Street Scrappin' style, awesome! Where I am, on bulk pickup day it can be arranged for a contractor to pick up crt's for safe disposal so hopefully they had something similar going on.
I use a grinder with cut wheel. Works good and quick.
I do too.... As long as I don't have the doors. Closed and the air conditioner or heat on.
Very economical way to save as much copper as possible (grinding it, it goes everywhere), also a arm workout if you do enough.
Cut off wheel on 1 end and air chisel with V cut into it, cleans up real quick
Yep but some people don't have an air compressor and an air chisel.... But pretty much everybody can find something to use as a hammer.... Really you need a vice before u need an air chisel
I been doing this a while .I use a torch to cut them open after I drain the oil .
Yeah I use my plasma cutter
Great idea thanks for sharing....
Can you do a video on the price difference of whole motor and break down? Awesome stuff👊
This is a clean way to get the copper out. which made me wonder can you use a press with a blade to cut one side of the coils, then use the press to push out the coils, 10/20 ton press may be enough for the job.
Yeah you probably could I have seen some processors done that way but if it was a hand pump it might take longer than doing it this way... now if you could rig something up with a hydraulic power pack that's the way to go
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Love that Moroso Can. Epic !!!
LOL it has a caravan on it...
Oh. Ha yeah that’s very wise
Ya got that tool in the vise👍😁
I find an angle grinder cut-off the crown I call it and 2 steal levers work in a vice push the levers in 1at a time using a hammer then put the Second in on top the first using a sissers motion prying up this is faster work you way around all though I will say in percentages it's a tiny bit better then what described above only because it's clean cut the angle grinder turns it to dust that is hard to collect however it still preference at the end of the day
These levers I speak of can be found at harbor freight they come bin a package labeled prying bars in is like 4 black steel in a variety of sizes they work well been doing this for a few years now the downsides are many to all reclamation processes is hard work some body at the junkyards is all ways trying to rip us off
David Steinfeld that’s the easiest way I’ve found so far
@@joshuamorris9050 I am not knocking I do know it's not easy to get the copper out out those motors and transformers I greatly appreciate your feedback and your video we scrapers have to stick together
Easy to do our not just to share another way with out a smelting forge
Hahaha!!!!!!!
Thank you
@@davidsteinfeld9123 yes i also use a 20 inch long tool to pry out the copper..first i cut off the end with a angle grinder cutoff wheel,, then lay the steel field flat on top of the vise flat lead screw cover with the top of steel about 1/2 to 3/4 below the top of vise jaws, then use pry bar the lever out copper,,easiest way for me..
@@louisrichards3702 clearly agree a good lever and an angle grinder really is the fastest way does leave a dust mess and if lucky enough to have a good method of collecting it its still copper and in a bucket it adds up
thank you for your kind comment
Scrap It! don't put it in a dump somewhere. It gives you something to do. It makes you money. The small city I live near has 5 zones for garbage pick-up. Monday thru Friday. My neighbor and me go get all that stuff thrown out and we scrap it all.
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Son!! Working around heavy stuff and wearing Crocks?? Are you kidding me!! This is telling me you have never had a foot injury!! LOL!!
I guess I got cat like reflexes.
Nice copper horde.
Nice video
Thanks
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