Imagine thundertron screaming bloody vengeance at the helm of his ship with the same manic passion as Igon in Elden ring CURSE YOU PRIME CURSE YOUR WRECHED HIDE
Miko: "You guys fought space pirates?! How many adventures did you have before meeting us?!" Ratchet: "Read the book." *hands a copy of The Covenant of Primus*
"Ye best start believing in sci-fi stories, Ms. Swan. Ya living one!" This was such an interesting concept at the time. Instead of Tidal Wave, I imagined them with that Beast Wars Sharkticon battleship. I called it Threaher because his tail became a whip in robot mode. Like Flying Mind, Thresher had a will of its own. And its primary goal was to be able to transform again. So it sent raiding parties to find anything that might help. The pirates have no clue. They think they are pillaging of there own free will. The hero of the story at first seems like he wants revenge against the pirates, then betrays the knights to join the pirates but in reality he wants to save the crew from Thresher's thrall.
Some of the details about their ship, The Thresher reminds me of the Super Sentai series, Seijū Sentai Gingaman(the Japanese counterpart of Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy).
Oh gosh, the pirate voice...This was really fun; the Star Seekers feel like they could use more love in more continuities. After all, who doesn't love robotic space pirates? We already have plenty of robotic ninjas and samurai. Now cowboys on the other hand...
Great pirate voice used for the introduction. Regarding the group, I've been wondering if the name "Star Raiders" will effectively become the default down the road, just to make them a tad more unique from the primary "Seekers" group.
@@FroyourHistory Video games and toys are entirely different trademark categories, so unless the pirate group gets its name in the title of a Transformers game (unlikely) or someone makes toys based on the Atari game (also unlikely), it's no conflict.
From how Thundertron's description, I felt like he's like a Sci-fi Davy Jones from Pirates wanting revenge for the Rust plague being unleashed and Cybertorn abandoning all of the colonies.
Definitely if they bring these guys back, they should make Tidal Wave the actual ship itself, not just a reference, I could also see the Seacons being their dedicated combiner team or their mass produced soldiers. In all honesty it'd be great to see an entire roster of Obscure characters become the Star Seekers/Raiders
The seacons would be in their orange Collector's club colors to help signify their change of allegiances, (also because they look a lot cooler in orange than blue.)
I made a Shattered Glass version of the Star Seekers based on the super sentai series Gokaiger, where Cannonball is the leader and he assembled his crew one by one
I like to imagine that the rest of the Star Seekers were also original characters inspired by other rival 80's cartoon & anime franchises (Ninja Turtles, He-Man, etc.) instead of just other pre-existing, obscure Transformers.
I have a head cannon crew written for my show! * Captain Thundertron * First Mate Thunderblast * Wreckage (Mixed with his movie design and Crumplezobe) * Ransack (Based on Cybertron mostly) * Cannonball * Bludgeon * The Seacons, all of them * and Space Warp as both their ship and a pirate. Lockdown, in my show, is already the leader of the mercenary faction and hates the pirates/star seekers.
@@jakenbake3127 Mercenaries are ANOTHER faction in the Transfomers universe who are guided by killing and money rather than Good or Evil. My "Mercenaries" which I assume you are referring to are... * Lockdown * Crosshairs * Ripclaw * Runabout * And Runamuck cause both teams need a duo * And the Combaticons Soundblaster, in my show, is just an upgraded Soundwave... this time upgraded by Unicron. Doubledealer isn't a mercenary... cause he's the guy who gives OUT the jobs. Bugbite isn't a Mercenary cause I don't know how I would make him any different than just an evil Bumblebee. Nightbird is apart of a drone army of Nightbirds led by Shockwave.
The fact that the only characters who could hold their own against Transformers Prime Megatron were Optimus Prime, Soundwave, and Thundertron instantly proves that Thundertron was a viable and serious threat that even Megatron would be more wary of facing in combat. Because Megateon probably sees a lot of both himself AND Starscream in Thundertron. And THAT is a VERY DANGEROUS Combination that NOBODY wants to have to deal with and would much rather avoid all together. If the Star Seekers had made it into a fourth season of Transformers Prime or as a main antagonist cast in Robots in Disguise as the eventual final villains then that would've been awesome. They probably would've also been the ones to expose Cybertronians to the world and blown the Autobots cover and further complicate any and all actions taken to counter them by involving humans into their threats. Steeljaw would've honestly fit perfectly into this as the Starscream to Thundertron's Megatron if you will. Only the key difference being that Steeljaw actually gets results and would be much more dangerous because he's better at hiding his true motives and constantly scheming nature, having fooled his leader whos much more unstable then Megatron. Now THAT could've been awesome conclusion to Robots In Disguise 2015. It'd also be a subtle nod to the Aligned Continuity Steeljaw being a completely different character and total departure from the Autobot Minicon from G1 as having Steeljaw frequently bash heads against his leader Thundertron with the back and forth Lion and Wolf alt modes. I would've loved to have seen thus character dynamic and it would've made people a lot more receptive to the cast of rag tag Decepticon stragglers and escapees being the villains if the series. But instead they were more isolated and on their own which proved to not be as developed of a plan to carry out. It also would've negated the need to bring Optimus Prime back so early and have Bumblebee and his new team more time to grow and develop on their own into a more fluent team working alongside Optimus in the final season only. And it would've added more mystery and intrigue to what happened to Optimus and why he was purposely choosing to leave Bumblebee to his own devices and to discover his path to leadership himself instead of having to firce friction between them when they were perfectly capable of working together before in Transformers Prime. And it would've negated the need to effectively "write out Decepticons" from the plot of the Aligned Continuity and would've seen more beloved characters return from Prime and be featured more regularly. Like having Knockout potentially join Bumblebee's team as their medic and further developing as a redemption arc to becoming an Autobot in nature but still proudly more Decepticon. Acknowledging his side lost the war but there were now more important things to worry about and as such becoming more acceptive to toning down his cruel and sadistic nature even opening up to a potential human ally cast member and learning from them. It also would've been amazing to see Knockout interact with Steeljaw and Knockout probably would've developed conflictions against him as he probably saw Starscream very apparent in Steeljaw but also a bit of himself and further reinforcing Knockout's choice to become an Autobot instead. Realizing that he made the right choice and can't go back to being just an opportunist with no real substance or stake at risk. That also would've been an amazing character dynamic with Steeljaw as we saw him still be like in Robots in Disguise 2015. Steeljaw in that show is just a great similar yet contrasting character to have interact with these other characters with different hints of his personality. Maybe someday we'll see something like this with the Star Seekers when they eventually make their grand maiden voyage into a form of main media for the franchise. Also last little side note, Enemy would've made for a hilarious potential brief cameo episode with the Star Seekers before Thundertron would've gitten fed up with him and taken him offline. Just an incredibly mouthy small angsty and volitile Minicon who could've transformed into a reusable Bomb projectile to be thrown by the Star Seekers in battle would've been pretty hilarious and amusing. And mark the first time this quite possibly most obscure character in the franchise made an actual TV appearance.
Ulysses, Spaceship Yamato and the good guys from the Wheeled Warriors will be looking for them. Also, why didn't Hasbro include the BW2 Seacons in the Star Seekers story, possibly as rival space pirates?
@@primalconvoy Maybe they are the descendants of the Star Seekers, since BWII takes place in the future. Although they could at least make Coelagon a member, since he's the equivalent of an old man compared to the rest of team God Neptune.
This is by far the coolest and most fascinating episode so far,I wanted to learn so much about these awesome transformers, thank you Star seekers and thank you Chris ❤😊👍👏
This is a very unique faction of Transformers that I would have liked to see in a Transformers TV show or movie, either animated or live action, because it's rare that we ever get a big enough faction of Cybertronians outside of the Autobots and Decepticons. I really hope that with new Transformers projects on the horizon, we could possibly get to see the Star Raiders in full, glorious and detailed animation that really does them justice. Hey Chris, another great Basics video. Keep up the great work and stay safe my fellow Transformers fan, and I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors.
Here’s my idea for a crew. Thundertron(Captain) Flame war(First Mate) Filch Oil Slik Lockdown And Glow-strike(there’s no real reason for that last one I just think she’s a criminally underutilized character)
I do like Thundertron as he was unique peg-legged Cybertronian who seeks revenge. Too bad the Star Seekers couldn't appear for the next series of TF: PRIME.
Star dog Sandstorm! It would be so cool if we had a pirate-y Sandstorm who either is someone who doubts the Star Seekers’ mission in pillaging and revenge, or who broke away from them to either join the Autobots, or strike out alone trying to find his purpose in life!
I think this space pirate crew is a perfect place for characters that are either unaligned or have conflicting feelings in the Autobots-Decepticons war, like Lockdown, Knock-Out, Transmutate(with maybe Rampage), Dreadwing, etc.
Love the pirate-speech in the intro! Avast there! I'm relatively new to Voltron, but Thundercats I've known for a long time. Knowing that those were the basis for the name Thundertron is super cool! I also love the revelations of who was a part of the crew in the different stories. My friend and I are gonna depict the Star Seekers as a ragtag group of Cybertronians from the colonies, led by Thundertron, aboard the starship Eternal Flight, with members from different colony worlds, not belonging to either Autobot or Decepticon. Who knows what the future has in store for them as they launch themselves on a quest to find a far-off place to call home.
Always love the idea Star Seekers (kinda like the Star Raider name better)using the capsule line. I’ve been a fan of non-Decepticon or autobot factions happy they got some recognition in legacy.
In fact, I imagine The Star Seeker Pirates singing the Club Penguin song, Anchors Aweigh among their many pirate shanty songs while sailing across the stars.
I really liked the "crew of clones liberated from a science lab" thing from the botcon star seeker vehicons, they kinda remind me of the pirates from Larklight in that regard.
I was very surprised that Thundertron was brought back for Legacy United. With him being a cut character for Prime/Aligned and emblematic of the demise of Hasbro’s plan for Aligned, wouldn’t have expected him to come back for a big major toy before other characters from Prime
I can see a story about cybertronian treasure hunters/explorers (Star Seekers) becoming desperate and vengeful Pirates (Star Raiders) after the plague of rust shuts off contact from their homeworlds, and cybertron itself.
I'd love to see some of the predators from G1 UK as Star Raiders like Skyquake and Stalker, maybe hooligan and RID 15 clampdown along with Cybertron thunderblast, dirt boss, crumplezone, and ransack
It's always good to add another faction to the Transformers Universe. Especially when you could pretty much do whatever you want with the characters. Leave them as pirates and raiders. Or even turn these scattered Transformers into an all powerful empire. That keeps the Autobots and Decepticons fighting for their existence. Like the Huns did over the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.
...I now just want a video containing all the different factions....because my brain is so curious how these bots split up and how many different factions exist
THANK YOU for this episode! I feel like Scraphook and Axlgrease would fit into this crew! Since they seemingly have no lore, this would be PERFECT for them!
I already thought at TFNation, that this is once again a great episode, but now with subtitles I can understand everything. I didn't manage to tell you, but I really wanted to thank you for not interrupting me and finishing my sentences for me when I stuttered. It's very rare and I appreciate it.
It’s pretty sweet, whether it’s the release of him by himself or that multipack with him. Especially if you’re a fan of Zoids, his lion mode has a lot of similar design inspirations.
I think Deep Dive from Reveal the Shield would be an awesome addition to the crew! It's a weird obscure character who really hasn't gotten any spotlight anywhere else, so his story can be told freely there!
Fascinating stuff as ever; and hearing the inspiration behind Thundertron's name makes me wonder whether we'll get an official Transformers/Thundercats crossover figure in due course - I mean, a Thundertank that transforms into a cat-headed robot who carries his own giant Sword of Omens would be pretty darn cool in my view at least, yes...?
I REALLY LIKE the idea that originally Dreadwing's vengeance would've had a less fully lethal wound and he would've turned up 2 seasons later with the unaligned third faction
The idea of a 3rd party transformers group comprising of abandoned or disgruntled Autobots and Decepticons has so much potential. They’re basically a wild card. It sucks most writers and Hasbro never use them. Maybe one day.
I really enjoyed this video today. I'm 45 years old and know G1 the most. Star Seekers are new to me. I would like to see them in a more mainstream setting. I like the Renegades too.
Yo, ya-yo, ya-yo Dreamin', don't give it up Thundertron Dreamin', don't give it up Cannonball Dreamin', don't give it up Filch now Dreamin', don't give it- Give it up, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it-No
While not canon; I think Seacons (The first space pirates from BWII) were part of the Star Seekers but Thundertron and Halfshell didn't see optic to optic (Cannonball secretly weeping fake rumors to Thundertron and Halfshell so both would eventually fight each other in hope both would destroy each other, Cannonball would take Sate seekers) so Halfshell took his crew and broke out from Star Seekers.
Considering the BWII is set in future I prefer to see the Seacons as the descendants/successors of the Star Seekers/Raiders as I doubt Thundertron and Cannonball would still be around considering Cybertron is at peace
These Star Seekers should get their own animated series, either made by Hasbro, or some YT animator. Either way that would be one heck of an awesome show
I mean... obviously Beast Wars Lazorbeak would be gunning for the captain's chair. But that might also be a bit of a deep cut, depending on who read that comic.
Thundertron being a resentful survivor in a way, makes sense. If there are knights, there are pirates that resented the very people who were supposed to defend them. What be overthinkin' a blue curtain does to ye mind, scallywag! Being a combination of two franchises that failed to adapt since one became a punching bag for cartoon critics (thundercats roar!), and the other was fed to a remorseless side of twitter (fandom, netflix voltron). Thundertron barely escaped the carnage and hated the surviving IPs from the 90s, upon noting that TMNT and DuckTales was thriving as well, not just The Transformers. Very meta.
I can imagine a episode or even a movie similar to POTC where the plot revolves around the Autobots chasing down the Star Seekers/Raider who have the similar goal to Springload where they kidnap him and took the Sphere to find Doradus and claim it untold riches not knowing the city and the treasures are cursed!
@@crimsondynamo615 I think I feel like it's because they threw Paradron into the colonies they hailed from, and then as a result since sandstorm is the only notable bot from there they chose him.
I didn't know any of this lore. Thank you. I always thought the new Thundertron toy was cool but knew nothing about him so he's stayed on store shelves. Might have to get him now.
I think I'm wrecking my brain trying to think about members, but g1 chop shop would definitely fit, since hes essentially just a kleptomaniac. Also I think g1 finback becuz hes described as an old sailor or something if i remember correctly. As for anything non g1, well im kinda drawing a blank, beyond inside joke characters that have been canned irl (like the g2 flipchangers) because that fits the original aligned backstory
just did a one shot around these guys. my star seeker crew was wildwheel, lockdown, alpha strike and shadow striker. lockdown was the head of the whole thing, they were trying to get a key what turns velocitron into a giant weapon to start raiding other planets with velocitron.
Hi Chris, Great video about Transformers: The Basics on the Star Seekers, keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also The Pirates of the Caribbean have got nothing on the Pirates of the Cosmos, the Star Seekers!! Also Probably one of the most interesting transformers team, Also "You will forestall my judgement!" Captain Thundertron, Also Great pirate voice used for the introduction. Regarding the group, I've been wondering if the name "Star Raiders" will effectively become the default down the road, just to make them a tad more unique from the primary "Seekers" group. Also They deserve to make it to an animated series. Extra factions are a great concept Transformers needs to explore further. Also That's gotta be the best pirate I've ever seen, Also I was very surprised that Thundertron was brought back for Legacy United. With him being a cut character for Prime/Aligned and emblematic of the demise of the demise of Hasbro's plan for Aligned, wouldn't have excepted him to come back for a big major toy before other characters from Prime, Also Thundertron And The Star Seekers are not only my best and most favorite Transformers Characters, not only my best and most favorite Transformers Faction/Subgroups, not only my best and most favorite Bad Guys/Villian Teams but also my best and most favorite Transformer Characters of all time, Also Man, we were robbed of some awesome promise with these guys. Hopefully they'll get to shine on a future cartoon or movie. Also Ah, I was curious about this faction since it was revealed in Legacy United. Thanks again Chris! Also Star Seekers wanting revenge against Cybertron Star Seekers searching for Treasure and Money, Also These Star Seekers should get their own animated series, either made by Hasbro, or some YT animator. Either way that would be one heck of an awesome show, Also Love the pirate-speech in the intro! Avast there! Also Both Thundercats and Voltron I've both Known for a long time. Knowing that those were the basis for the name Thundertron is super cool! I also love the revelations of who was a part of the crew in the different stories. I'm gonna depict the Star Seekers as a ragtag group of Cyber Trinian's from the colonies, led by Thundertron, aboard the starship Eternal Flight, with members from different colony worlds, not belonging to either Autobot or Decepticon.Who knows what the future has in store for them as they launch themselves on a quest to find a far-off place to call home. Also This by far the coolest and most fascinating episode so far, I wanted to learn so much about these awesome transformers, thank you Star Seekers and thank you Chris for sharing keep up the good work stay safe out there have a goodnight and Until next time TILL ALL ARE ONE.🙂🎆🟢👍❤️ 9:16 pm.
Honestly tho, seeing the Star Seekers as a gang seeking revenge after abandonment is a banger origin
Imagine thundertron screaming bloody vengeance at the helm of his ship with the same manic passion as Igon in Elden ring CURSE YOU PRIME CURSE YOUR WRECHED HIDE
Honestly. I actually want to buy the figures now😭Hope to see them fleshed out again one day
Real
The original plan was to have 13 of them, one from each colony world!
I prefer the treasure hunter idea
I do wonder what Transformers Prime would of been like if the Star Seekers appeared in the show like they were supposed too
What I wouldn’t give to see/read that alternate timeline
Did you watch the video? They weren't replaced, they were supposed to have appeared AFTER Season 3.
Miko: "You guys fought space pirates?! How many adventures did you have before meeting us?!"
Ratchet: "Read the book." *hands a copy of The Covenant of Primus*
@@johnnygyro2295 I love how well I can hear it in their voices, right down to Ratchet casually tossing the book too big for humans to read
"Ye best start believing in sci-fi stories, Ms. Swan. Ya living one!"
This was such an interesting concept at the time. Instead of Tidal Wave, I imagined them with that Beast Wars Sharkticon battleship. I called it Threaher because his tail became a whip in robot mode. Like Flying Mind, Thresher had a will of its own. And its primary goal was to be able to transform again. So it sent raiding parties to find anything that might help. The pirates have no clue. They think they are pillaging of there own free will. The hero of the story at first seems like he wants revenge against the pirates, then betrays the knights to join the pirates but in reality he wants to save the crew from Thresher's thrall.
"Ye best start believing in sci-fi stories, Ms. Swan. Ya living one!" - NICE 👍🏿.
This would be an awesome idea for a film!
I think you mean the energon sharkitcon ship
*HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!*
Some of the details about their ship, The Thresher reminds me of the Super Sentai series, Seijū Sentai Gingaman(the Japanese counterpart of Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy).
“You will not forestall my judgement!”
-Captain Thundertron
Oh gosh, the pirate voice...This was really fun; the Star Seekers feel like they could use more love in more continuities. After all, who doesn't love robotic space pirates? We already have plenty of robotic ninjas and samurai. Now cowboys on the other hand...
There's wild wheel.
@@RosyRecluse TELL ME ABOUT WILD WHEEL!!!🛞🛞🛞🛞🤠🤠🤠
@drewo.127 he was in cyberverse
He was an autobot but accidentally got left behind and he went across the universe as a hired gunslinger
@@markusallen6818 I need to watch rewatch/finish watching Cyberverse now!!!
Great pirate voice used for the introduction.
Regarding the group, I've been wondering if the name "Star Raiders" will effectively become the default down the road, just to make them a tad more unique from the primary "Seekers" group.
@@FroyourHistory Video games and toys are entirely different trademark categories, so unless the pirate group gets its name in the title of a Transformers game (unlikely) or someone makes toys based on the Atari game (also unlikely), it's no conflict.
@@NovaSaber Thanks for letting me know
Probably one of the most interesting transformers team
IMO it feels like a breath of fresh air when you cover a Transformers concept that didn’t originate from G1
From how Thundertron's description, I felt like he's like a Sci-fi Davy Jones from Pirates wanting revenge for the Rust plague being unleashed and Cybertorn abandoning all of the colonies.
Definitely if they bring these guys back, they should make Tidal Wave the actual ship itself, not just a reference, I could also see the Seacons being their dedicated combiner team or their mass produced soldiers. In all honesty it'd be great to see an entire roster of Obscure characters become the Star Seekers/Raiders
The seacons would be in their orange Collector's club colors to help signify their change of allegiances, (also because they look a lot cooler in orange than blue.)
Watch Hasbro reveal a new Star Seeker for the Legacy line in like, two days.
I made a Shattered Glass version of the Star Seekers based on the super sentai series Gokaiger, where Cannonball is the leader and he assembled his crew one by one
Gokai Red: Cannonball
Gokai Blue: Thundercracker
Gokai Yellow: Shadow Striker
Gokai Green: Tow-Line
Gokai Pink: Minerva
Gokai Silver: Grimlock
@@Pikashockdragon
GokaiRed: Cannonball
GokaiBlue: Axor
GokaiYellow: Scylla (Cyla)
GokaiGreen: Lockpick
GokaiPink: Aurora
GokaiSilver: Flamewar
Gokai-oh: Tidalwave
Gozyujin: Overkill
@@RubenAssassinRose Aurora as in Aurora Speeder?
And where would Twokaizer come in?
How did I *not* know Thundertron's name was made up of Thundercats and Voltron? It seems VERY obvious in hindsight...
TFwiki also says that Aaron archer made that name just to flip the bird to those franchises. Business world is merciless, jeez.
The alt mode is also based upon the Liger Zero zoid.
I like to imagine that the rest of the Star Seekers were also original characters inspired by other rival 80's cartoon & anime franchises (Ninja Turtles, He-Man, etc.) instead of just other pre-existing, obscure Transformers.
i had that exact same reaction 😂
How many transformers have Tron in their names, and aren't referencing anything?
I have a head cannon crew written for my show!
* Captain Thundertron
* First Mate Thunderblast
* Wreckage (Mixed with his movie design and Crumplezobe)
* Ransack (Based on Cybertron mostly)
* Cannonball
* Bludgeon
* The Seacons, all of them
* and Space Warp as both their ship and a pirate.
Lockdown, in my show, is already the leader of the mercenary faction and hates the pirates/star seekers.
Who are the mercenary
@@jakenbake3127 Mercenaries are ANOTHER faction in the Transfomers universe who are guided by killing and money rather than Good or Evil. My "Mercenaries" which I assume you are referring to are...
* Lockdown
* Crosshairs
* Ripclaw
* Runabout
* And Runamuck cause both teams need a duo
* And the Combaticons
Soundblaster, in my show, is just an upgraded Soundwave... this time upgraded by Unicron. Doubledealer isn't a mercenary... cause he's the guy who gives OUT the jobs. Bugbite isn't a Mercenary cause I don't know how I would make him any different than just an evil Bumblebee. Nightbird is apart of a drone army of Nightbirds led by Shockwave.
Which Seacons?
@@drakulta4925 Technically the G1 Seacons but their personalities are all based on pirates anyway.
8:09 holy smoke, that Flamewar was jacked!
Whoever drew her that way has good skill and taste
9:42 I know on the Allspark Forums, Jesse Wittenrich showed various mockups of unproposed Star Seekers for their 2014 box set.
One of them was a recolor of Prime: Dreadwing/Skyquake into an OC named Bloodmoon.
@@robrice7246*Pokemon Legends Arceus battle theme intensifies* (reason: Blood moon ursaluna)
Really? In which thread?
There were also Bombshell and Demolisher (Made from Darkmount/Straxus & FOC Optimus Prime)
@@angelbasiliorodriguezbusto2065 They also wanted to do Ransack from FOC: Kickback.
They deserve to make it to an animated series. Extra factions are a great concept Transformers needs to explore further.
The fact that the only characters who could hold their own against Transformers Prime Megatron were Optimus Prime, Soundwave, and Thundertron instantly proves that Thundertron was a viable and serious threat that even Megatron would be more wary of facing in combat. Because Megateon probably sees a lot of both himself AND Starscream in Thundertron. And THAT is a VERY DANGEROUS Combination that NOBODY wants to have to deal with and would much rather avoid all together.
If the Star Seekers had made it into a fourth season of Transformers Prime or as a main antagonist cast in Robots in Disguise as the eventual final villains then that would've been awesome. They probably would've also been the ones to expose Cybertronians to the world and blown the Autobots cover and further complicate any and all actions taken to counter them by involving humans into their threats. Steeljaw would've honestly fit perfectly into this as the Starscream to Thundertron's Megatron if you will. Only the key difference being that Steeljaw actually gets results and would be much more dangerous because he's better at hiding his true motives and constantly scheming nature, having fooled his leader whos much more unstable then Megatron. Now THAT could've been awesome conclusion to Robots In Disguise 2015.
It'd also be a subtle nod to the Aligned Continuity Steeljaw being a completely different character and total departure from the Autobot Minicon from G1 as having Steeljaw frequently bash heads against his leader Thundertron with the back and forth Lion and Wolf alt modes. I would've loved to have seen thus character dynamic and it would've made people a lot more receptive to the cast of rag tag Decepticon stragglers and escapees being the villains if the series. But instead they were more isolated and on their own which proved to not be as developed of a plan to carry out. It also would've negated the need to bring Optimus Prime back so early and have Bumblebee and his new team more time to grow and develop on their own into a more fluent team working alongside Optimus in the final season only. And it would've added more mystery and intrigue to what happened to Optimus and why he was purposely choosing to leave Bumblebee to his own devices and to discover his path to leadership himself instead of having to firce friction between them when they were perfectly capable of working together before in Transformers Prime.
And it would've negated the need to effectively "write out Decepticons" from the plot of the Aligned Continuity and would've seen more beloved characters return from Prime and be featured more regularly. Like having Knockout potentially join Bumblebee's team as their medic and further developing as a redemption arc to becoming an Autobot in nature but still proudly more Decepticon. Acknowledging his side lost the war but there were now more important things to worry about and as such becoming more acceptive to toning down his cruel and sadistic nature even opening up to a potential human ally cast member and learning from them. It also would've been amazing to see Knockout interact with Steeljaw and Knockout probably would've developed conflictions against him as he probably saw Starscream very apparent in Steeljaw but also a bit of himself and further reinforcing Knockout's choice to become an Autobot instead. Realizing that he made the right choice and can't go back to being just an opportunist with no real substance or stake at risk. That also would've been an amazing character dynamic with Steeljaw as we saw him still be like in Robots in Disguise 2015. Steeljaw in that show is just a great similar yet contrasting character to have interact with these other characters with different hints of his personality.
Maybe someday we'll see something like this with the Star Seekers when they eventually make their grand maiden voyage into a form of main media for the franchise.
Also last little side note, Enemy would've made for a hilarious potential brief cameo episode with the Star Seekers before Thundertron would've gitten fed up with him and taken him offline. Just an incredibly mouthy small angsty and volitile Minicon who could've transformed into a reusable Bomb projectile to be thrown by the Star Seekers in battle would've been pretty hilarious and amusing. And mark the first time this quite possibly most obscure character in the franchise made an actual TV appearance.
The Pirates of the Caribbean have got nothing on the Pirates of the Cosmos, the Star Seekers!!
Ulysses, Spaceship Yamato and the good guys from the Wheeled Warriors will be looking for them. Also, why didn't Hasbro include the BW2 Seacons in the Star Seekers story, possibly as rival space pirates?
@@primalconvoy Maybe they are the descendants of the Star Seekers, since BWII takes place in the future. Although they could at least make Coelagon a member, since he's the equivalent of an old man compared to the rest of team God Neptune.
That could have been 1 reason why it also never took off on other toy lines
@@primalconvoyDon't forget Captain Harlock.
This is by far the coolest and most fascinating episode so far,I wanted to learn so much about these awesome transformers, thank you Star seekers and thank you Chris ❤😊👍👏
Nice to see the loss of Captain Plunder hasn't dulled your piratical edge
1:55 I didn't knew that!!!
I was there at Birmingham for THIS!
The Star Seekers would be so cool to see in Void Rivals.
This is a very unique faction of Transformers that I would have liked to see in a Transformers TV show or movie, either animated or live action, because it's rare that we ever get a big enough faction of Cybertronians outside of the Autobots and Decepticons. I really hope that with new Transformers projects on the horizon, we could possibly get to see the Star Raiders in full, glorious and detailed animation that really does them justice. Hey Chris, another great Basics video. Keep up the great work and stay safe my fellow Transformers fan, and I wish you the best of luck with your future endeavors.
That's gotta be the best pirate I've ever seen...
And you HAVE seen him.
A fanfic i recently found agrees with you, in it thundertron is basics transformers Jack sparrow🤣🤣
@@chheinrich8486 ooh, does it happen to be a crossover story?
@@manjackson2772 XD ^^
@@Samuel_Loegan with mobile suit gundam seed, please dont tell me you know it too😅
Here’s my idea for a crew.
Thundertron(Captain)
Flame war(First Mate)
Filch
Oil Slik
Lockdown
And Glow-strike(there’s no real reason for that last one I just think she’s a criminally underutilized character)
I do like Thundertron as he was unique peg-legged Cybertronian who seeks revenge. Too bad the Star Seekers couldn't appear for the next series of TF: PRIME.
Star dog Sandstorm!
It would be so cool if we had a pirate-y Sandstorm who either is someone who doubts the Star Seekers’ mission in pillaging and revenge, or who broke away from them to either join the Autobots, or strike out alone trying to find his purpose in life!
Ah, I was curious about this faction since it was revealed in Leyacy United. Thanks again Chris!
Man, we were robbed of some awesome promise with these guys. Hopefully they'll get to shine on a future cartoon or movie.
I think this space pirate crew is a perfect place for characters that are either unaligned or have conflicting feelings in the Autobots-Decepticons war, like Lockdown, Knock-Out, Transmutate(with maybe Rampage), Dreadwing, etc.
Sky-Byte would also fit perfectly into this group.
I love your pirate accents, Thundertron should be voiced by Billy aka Davy Jones with his Scottish accent,it would be a banger of a performance
I am now invested in this band of raiders and misfits. Hope we get to see them on the screen some day.
Love the pirate-speech in the intro! Avast there!
I'm relatively new to Voltron, but Thundercats I've known for a long time. Knowing that those were the basis for the name Thundertron is super cool! I also love the revelations of who was a part of the crew in the different stories.
My friend and I are gonna depict the Star Seekers as a ragtag group of Cybertronians from the colonies, led by Thundertron, aboard the starship Eternal Flight, with members from different colony worlds, not belonging to either Autobot or Decepticon. Who knows what the future has in store for them as they launch themselves on a quest to find a far-off place to call home.
Always love the idea Star Seekers (kinda like the Star Raider name better)using the capsule line. I’ve been a fan of non-Decepticon or autobot factions happy they got some recognition in legacy.
My headcannon is that Thundertron sounds like Barbossa from potc
7:31 I like the little nod to Club Penguin they did :)
In fact, I imagine The Star Seeker Pirates singing the Club Penguin song, Anchors Aweigh among their many pirate shanty songs while sailing across the stars.
I really liked the "crew of clones liberated from a science lab" thing from the botcon star seeker vehicons, they kinda remind me of the pirates from Larklight in that regard.
I was very surprised that Thundertron was brought back for Legacy United. With him being a cut character for Prime/Aligned and emblematic of the demise of Hasbro’s plan for Aligned, wouldn’t have expected him to come back for a big major toy before other characters from Prime
I can see a story about cybertronian treasure hunters/explorers (Star Seekers) becoming desperate and vengeful Pirates (Star Raiders) after the plague of rust shuts off contact from their homeworlds, and cybertron itself.
Windblade might be a intersting addition or one of the dinobots.
I'd love to see some of the predators from G1 UK as Star Raiders like Skyquake and Stalker, maybe hooligan and RID 15 clampdown along with Cybertron thunderblast, dirt boss, crumplezone, and ransack
6:36 I remember that con I never gone but I was given a comic of rampage and transmutate
It's always good to add another faction to the Transformers Universe. Especially when you could pretty much do whatever you want with the characters. Leave them as pirates and raiders.
Or even turn these scattered Transformers into an all powerful empire. That keeps the Autobots and Decepticons fighting for their existence.
Like the Huns did over the Western and Eastern Roman Empires.
Excellent video my friend. Never knew any of this stuff! Excellent production!
...I now just want a video containing all the different factions....because my brain is so curious how these bots split up and how many different factions exist
I truly did not know that much about the star seekers. Thanks for the update Chris. Great job.
THANK YOU for this episode! I feel like Scraphook and Axlgrease would fit into this crew! Since they seemingly have no lore, this would be PERFECT for them!
I already thought at TFNation, that this is once again a great episode, but now with subtitles I can understand everything.
I didn't manage to tell you, but I really wanted to thank you for not interrupting me and finishing my sentences for me when I stuttered. It's very rare and I appreciate it.
That intro is your best ever! Yarrrr!
I've been debating getting the new Thundertron
It's a cool figure.
Yeah
You should get him
It’s pretty sweet, whether it’s the release of him by himself or that multipack with him. Especially if you’re a fan of Zoids, his lion mode has a lot of similar design inspirations.
Looks like a good deal
If only High Moon made a sequel to Fall of Cybertron they could've been the main antagonists
That Pirate esc opening was quite fun! Well done! Love good ole Davy Jones the robot!
Wouldn’t mind a few basics videos on iron fist, tailgate, wind charger and the many bots who took the name “Treadshot”.
Always good to see new factions, especially with their own insignias. Shame you didn't release this on International Talk Like A Pirate Day.
King Poseidon / Seacons. Every team needs a gestalt. "Do you fear Death?!" Would be cool if there was a Unicron tie in.
I think Deep Dive from Reveal the Shield would be an awesome addition to the crew! It's a weird obscure character who really hasn't gotten any spotlight anywhere else, so his story can be told freely there!
Fascinating stuff as ever; and hearing the inspiration behind Thundertron's name makes me wonder whether we'll get an official Transformers/Thundercats crossover figure in due course - I mean, a Thundertank that transforms into a cat-headed robot who carries his own giant Sword of Omens would be pretty darn cool in my view at least, yes...?
I REALLY LIKE the idea that originally Dreadwing's vengeance would've had a less fully lethal wound and he would've turned up 2 seasons later with the unaligned third faction
The idea of a 3rd party transformers group comprising of abandoned or disgruntled Autobots and Decepticons has so much potential. They’re basically a wild card. It sucks most writers and Hasbro never use them. Maybe one day.
I really enjoyed this video today. I'm 45 years old and know G1 the most. Star Seekers are new to me. I would like to see them in a more mainstream setting. I like the Renegades too.
Huh. Thundercats + Voltron = Thundertron. You learn something new every day.
I honestly luv the concept of space pirate transformers. And for Chris to cover this, I would’ve never expected
Man I think Haslab was cooking before they shut down the kitchen. I think legacy should add Brimstone just because of how relevant he was
Nice video Chris and I literally want out and got myself Thundertron today.
Yo, ya-yo, ya-yo
Dreamin', don't give it up Thundertron
Dreamin', don't give it up Cannonball
Dreamin', don't give it up Filch now
Dreamin', don't give it-
Give it up, give it up, give it up, give it up, give it-No
While not canon; I think Seacons (The first space pirates from BWII) were part of the Star Seekers but Thundertron and Halfshell didn't see optic to optic (Cannonball secretly weeping fake rumors to Thundertron and Halfshell so both would eventually fight each other in hope both would destroy each other, Cannonball would take Sate seekers) so Halfshell took his crew and broke out from Star Seekers.
Considering the BWII is set in future I prefer to see the Seacons as the descendants/successors of the Star Seekers/Raiders as I doubt Thundertron and Cannonball would still be around considering Cybertron is at peace
3:15 Dude! I've got the Legacy Evolution Detritus figure! This is just nuts.
Swindle would definitely make a dubious member of the Star Seekers
This was a fun one. I've always liked the idea of other Cybertronian factions outside of the main Autobot-Decepticon conflict.
These Star Seekers should get their own animated series, either made by Hasbro, or some YT animator. Either way that would be one heck of an awesome show
I mean... obviously Beast Wars Lazorbeak would be gunning for the captain's chair. But that might also be a bit of a deep cut, depending on who read that comic.
Fantastic video, Chris! I knew virtually nothing about the Star Seekers. Now I'm a fan! And that pirate voice intro really "shivered me timbers"!
Thundertron being a resentful survivor in a way, makes sense. If there are knights, there are pirates that resented the very people who were supposed to defend them. What be overthinkin' a blue curtain does to ye mind, scallywag! Being a combination of two franchises that failed to adapt since one became a punching bag for cartoon critics (thundercats roar!), and the other was fed to a remorseless side of twitter (fandom, netflix voltron). Thundertron barely escaped the carnage and hated the surviving IPs from the 90s, upon noting that TMNT and DuckTales was thriving as well, not just The Transformers. Very meta.
@@Gaia_BentosZX5 ...so Aaron archers intent for naming thundertron like that to screw both franchises somehow worked...?
"We'll invade Cybertron and conquer it!"
"You will take over a planet with 13 people?"
"Hey, Cybertron is dead and abandoned. 13 is enough."
Good to hear captain plunder intro this episode
Star Seekers wanting revenge against Cybertron
Star Raiders searching for Treasure and money
i would recommend Sky-Byte
I feel a miss opportunity for pirate and shark 🦈
Yeah it would be nice to see a leader class sky byte. Big ol’ shark, moving jaws, could be cool.
Since Snapdragon was almost a mercenary, I’d really like to see somebody like Apeface join the Star Raiders
I would not be surprised if we see them in some sort WFC trilogy sequel.
Space pirates...gotta say, the universe ain't too big to be looted by them
I can imagine a episode or even a movie similar to POTC where the plot revolves around the Autobots chasing down the Star Seekers/Raider who have the similar goal to Springload where they kidnap him and took the Sphere to find Doradus and claim it untold riches not knowing the city and the treasures are cursed!
I’ve been rewatching G1, and recently got to the episode where they introduced Sandstorm so it was a shock to hear his name on the roster.
Not even the most surprising thing to happen to Sandstorm from around this time. Look up Sandstorm in IDW.
@@crimsondynamo615 I think I feel like it's because they threw Paradron into the colonies they hailed from, and then as a result since sandstorm is the only notable bot from there they chose him.
@@crimsondynamo615 I’m going to 😊 I plan on reading the whole thing once I get some free time
I only know these guys from the botcon comics.
My favorite was Cliffhopper. Gotta love that penguin. 😂
I wonder if at some point there was the idea to reveal that the Star Seekers' ship was a Titan and that the name "Tidal Wave" wasn't just a reference.
DO WHAT YOU WANT CAUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
YOU ARE A PIRATE
I didn't know any of this lore. Thank you. I always thought the new Thundertron toy was cool but knew nothing about him so he's stayed on store shelves. Might have to get him now.
Interesting members I’d like to see
Jackpot
Hauler
Dark wing
Windcharger
And Jetstorm
Thank You!
This was with the weight.
I think I'm wrecking my brain trying to think about members, but g1 chop shop would definitely fit, since hes essentially just a kleptomaniac. Also I think g1 finback becuz hes described as an old sailor or something if i remember correctly.
As for anything non g1, well im kinda drawing a blank, beyond inside joke characters that have been canned irl (like the g2 flipchangers) because that fits the original aligned backstory
Definitely Ransack, Crumplezone, and Dirtboss from Transformers Cybertron
just did a one shot around these guys. my star seeker crew was wildwheel, lockdown, alpha strike and shadow striker. lockdown was the head of the whole thing, they were trying to get a key what turns velocitron into a giant weapon to start raiding other planets with velocitron.
If I were to create a new Star Seeker crew, it would depend on whether I go with the Prime idea of revenge-seeking colonists or the Botcon idea of plundering treasure hunters. Thundertron I would include in either one for recognition's sake.
Prime: Dreadwing (Prime), Skyquake (Prime), Venom (G1), Barrage (G1), Chopshop (G1), Ransack (G1), Snaptrap (G1), Nautilator (G1), Overbite (G1), Seawing (G1), Tentakil (G1), Skalor (G1), Firestar (G1/IDW), Crosswise (Cybertron), Leobreaker (Cybertron), Hot Shot (IDW), Devcon (G1), Lockdown (Movie), Strika (Beast Machines), Arcee (G1/IDW), Sideways (Armada), Tidal Wave (Armada), Steeljaw (RID 2015), Quake (G1), Tiptop (G1), Heater (G1), Crasher (GoBots), Repugnus (G1), Grotusque (G1), Doublecross (G1), Sixshot (G1), Scattershot (Cybertron), Landmine (Cybertron), Dirt Boss (Cybertron), Metalhawk (IDW), Whirl (G1/IDW), Cyclonus (G1/IDW), Nightstick (G1), Dinobot (BW), Depth Charge (BW), Getaway (G1/IDW), Chromedome (G1/Headmasters), Victory Leo (Victory), Astrotrain (G1), Octane (G1)
Botcon: Thunderwing (G1), Octopunch (G1), Stranglehold (G1), Bludgeon (G1), Halfshell (BWII), Terrormander (BWII), Coelagon (BWII), Sea Phantom (BWII), Scylla (BWII), Lugnut (Animated), Lockdown (Animated), Doubledealer (G1), Dirge (G1/Earthrise), Thrust (G1/Earthrise), Ramjet (G1/Earthrise), Bug Bite (GoBots/Earthrise), Exhaust (Earthrise), Swindle (G1/Animated/Earthspark), Thundercracker (Cybertron), Knockout (Prime), Breakdown (Prime), Hun-Grr (G1), Sinnertwin (G1), Rippersnapper (G1), Cutthroat (G1), Blot (G1), Overlord (Masterforce), Scourge (G1/IDW), Fracas (G1), Slugslinger (G1), Caliburst (G1), Snowcat (Energon), Trypticon (G1/WFC/Cyberverse), Rampage (BW), Fracture (RID 2015), Slipstream (Animated), Apeface (G1), Snapdragon (G1), Bugly (G1), Mindwipe (G1), Blitzwing (G1), Terrorsaur (BW)
Hi Chris, Great video about Transformers: The Basics on the Star Seekers, keep them coming, Also your latest video was outstanding, Also The Pirates of the Caribbean have got nothing on the Pirates of the Cosmos, the Star Seekers!! Also Probably one of the most interesting transformers team, Also "You will forestall my judgement!" Captain Thundertron, Also Great pirate voice used for the introduction. Regarding the group, I've been wondering if the name "Star Raiders" will effectively become the default down the road, just to make them a tad more unique from the primary "Seekers" group. Also They deserve to make it to an animated series. Extra factions are a great concept Transformers needs to explore further. Also That's gotta be the best pirate I've ever seen, Also I was very surprised that Thundertron was brought back for Legacy United. With him being a cut character for Prime/Aligned and emblematic of the demise of the demise of Hasbro's plan for Aligned, wouldn't have excepted him to come back for a big major toy before other characters from Prime, Also Thundertron And The Star Seekers are not only my best and most favorite Transformers Characters, not only my best and most favorite Transformers Faction/Subgroups, not only my best and most favorite Bad Guys/Villian Teams but also my best and most favorite Transformer Characters of all time, Also Man, we were robbed of some awesome promise with these guys. Hopefully they'll get to shine on a future cartoon or movie. Also Ah, I was curious about this faction since it was revealed in Legacy United. Thanks again Chris! Also Star Seekers wanting revenge against Cybertron Star Seekers searching for Treasure and Money, Also These Star Seekers should get their own animated series, either made by Hasbro, or some YT animator. Either way that would be one heck of an awesome show, Also Love the pirate-speech in the intro! Avast there! Also Both Thundercats and Voltron I've both Known for a long time. Knowing that those were the basis for the name Thundertron is super cool! I also love the revelations of who was a part of the crew in the different stories. I'm gonna depict the Star Seekers as a ragtag group of Cyber
Trinian's from the colonies, led by Thundertron, aboard the starship Eternal Flight, with members from different colony worlds, not belonging to either Autobot or Decepticon.Who knows what the future has in store for them as they launch themselves on a quest to find a far-off place to call home. Also This by far the coolest and most fascinating episode so far, I wanted to learn so much about these awesome transformers, thank you Star Seekers and thank you Chris for sharing keep up the good work stay safe out there have a goodnight and Until next time TILL ALL ARE ONE.🙂🎆🟢👍❤️ 9:16 pm.
T-Wrecks. I think the Generations Tankor would work as a generic soldier for the crew.
I also Hope New transformers series come Out and bring them back to screen
Thundertron have such dope figures
Wouldn't it be interesting if Thundertron originally hailed from Antilla?
9:11/9:12 I often associate the Armorizers themselves as being part of Thundertron's crew.