I think there are adult fantasy books that are less mature than SoC, but there’s also unfortunately often a certain fan base in adult fantasy that would never accept that 😆
Something tells me they likely encouraged her to age down her characters. Pushing female writers to write YA instead of adult fiction is a popular thing -- always so noticeable when everything else fits adult EXCEPT the ages...Lots of misogyny in the book world.
@@ayeshareads8734 AFAIK, it's also that YA generally sales better, doesn't it? And especially if the author is already known in the genre; if changing genres, normally she would need to start in many ways from scratch, maybe even have separate agent and publisher for it. Which for a continuous series isn't probably even an option.
@@Ailvara To some degree, yeah.. if male authors were pushed to do the same thing, I'd probably consider it more of a sales strategy. Where there's a will, there's a way - there are plenty of authors who jump genres (writing fantasy, noir, mystery, etc.) Six of Crows is published under an imprint of Macmillan. It's actually not as hard as one might think to move around imprints. If your first books did well, there's likely going to be an internal bidding war between imprints, anyway. It might not be the easiest thing in the world so I can understand why someone WOULDN'T do it, but I do think the pattern of shoving women writers into YA when their books could easily be adult fiction is not a coincidence. Book genres and BISACs in general are misogynistic. Hence why we have an entire BISAC for "Women's Fiction" -
It's literally the same in the book, but in "real time" instead of flashbacks. Nina is probably one of my favourite characters ever, but that romance was so forced and cliché... the enemies to lovers trope is overplayed AF. That said, their relationship gets a lot better during the main storyline, they're amazing despite their cringeworthy first chapters.
I still can't get over the fact that "Grisha" is basically the Russian equivalent to "Greg", so Grishaverse can literally be translated to "Gregverse". I just can't take it seriously
Russian is one of my native languages. I have to also tell you that "Grisha" associates with old redneck or farmer guys due to the fact that the name was popular in 20th-40ths last century amongst farmers, villagers and workers. It is one of the "commoner" names that the rich and aristocrats avoided.
Omg I agree! Every time they switched back to Alina or Mal I was like ugh not them again 🤧 🤣 I might just read the crows books to be honest rather than the main trilogy ahahah
@@hollyowens1715 I totally recommend to read the six of crows duology! the main trilogy is alright but six of crows is where its at. 100 times better than the main trilogy, seriously you wouldn't believe the same person wrote the 2 series. I personally just picked up the six of crows duology first and finished it, before I even knew the Grisha trilogy existed
As someone who’s loved the Six Of Crows duology for a long time, I thought the show was a great adaptation, and I’m very excited to see Kaz, Inej, and Jesper level up even further in season two (or, I’ve seen some fans say they should get a spinoff, and honestly I’d be so onboard with that too because there’d be more time to explore Ketterdam, which is one of my favorite fantasy locations).
I'm so happy with the adaptations! I loved how they keep these little moments and lines that just really make you smile especially if you have read the books. The show was well casted and the CGI and effects were also really well done. We had a lot of bad history with book to movies/series adaptation and I'm so glad this isn't one of them.
I've not read Six of Crows, but if I can venture a guess....having some of the characters in the Netflix adaptation just make the whole story a bit more interesting. They are unique and interesting characters and has made me want to pick up the Six of Crows duology.
Doooo it! The Six of Crows duology was a game changer (and this is coming from someone who honestly enjoyed the Shadow & Bone trilogy well enough when I read it). SoC was a Bardugo level up!
I low-key think the Crows should get a spin-off series after this season because I don't know how they're going to tie in their stories while telling the story of Siege and Storm as well as introducing Nikolai, Toyla, and Tamar. It's just going to be too much to cram into one season imo
Idk how they’re going to do it either. But I was nervous about them including the crows at all and I thought they did a great job, so idk, maybe they’ll make it work 😄
@@ebnovels Yeah same! I just hope that they tell the Crows' story as well as they did this season because Bardugo said if season 2 happens, she definitely wants Wylan to be in there and I'm curious how that will be executed!!
I read the six of crows duology right after I finished the show and I was really surprised by their age in the books, it makes zero sense for them to be this young in the books especially with all their knowledge and skills. Plus they looked way older in the show so I just continued reading the books as if all the characters were 20+ years old
I have watched the Netflix series and was instantly hooked. I decided to pick up the first book cos I couldn't wait. I'm in my early 30s now so frankly I prefer the adaptation. The good thing about reading the first book tho is the WORLD-BUILDING (tho there a lots of key changes like in many adaptations). You'll get to know the types of Grisha that wasn't really covered and defined properly in the TV series. Can't wait to finish reading every book!
Just ordered the shadow and bone books after watching the show ! Can’t wait to read them:) I’m kind of in a reading slump at the moment so hopefully this will be an easy read to get me back ! Thanks for the video
Omg that's great!! I hope you enjoy them because although I'll admit you can tell the age range the books were meant for, it's still a really good story with tons of amazing characters!
This was very helpful and I really appreciate the no spoilers too! I binged the show on Netflix and was wondering how to approach the books, but now I know. I'm very excited to get into more of this world and storylines. 😀 Thank you!
leigh bardugos books (especially Shadow and Bone) have been a staple in my life, with me reading them in middle school where i was the new girl at a new school. i loved the trilogy and they definitely got me through a tough time. i tried reading six of crows later on when they came out (when i was around 16) and for some reason i didnt like them. being older now and starting to reread soc, i think its because they have a different vibe (which i like now but wasnt really interested in when i was younger). soc is darker/definitely more mature and not focused on the magic portion. it was crazy watching the show and seeing characters that lived in my head rent free running around and interacting. i def think having six of crows and shadow and bone happen at the same time was the best idea ever lol
This has been very helpful, thanks. As an older fantasy reader that has watched the show, I will probably skip the Grisha trilogy, but I am curious about the Six of Crows characters, so I'll probably read the duology instead.
I wasn't blown away by S&B, just a little too young for me, but I would be hard pressed not to buy those stunning editions you got there! I may be drooling a little. I'm only halfway through the Netflix show but I'm liking it! and I definitely gotta get to Six of Crows now. On a side note you are looking particularly beautiful today! That hair style and makeup suits you so well.
I was so surprised at how well they executed the show. Like I was shook. I didn't like the Shadow and Bone Trilogy when I read it. However I LOVED the six of crows duology. And this show made me appreciate both of them. I was so sad when I finished it.
I have been a big fantasy fan and have gotten my daughter into it also. My wife and I had tried to get her to read Harry Potter a few years back but now that she is older she has embraced it and has read quite a few young adult books. I am an audiobook person since I am able to listen at work but it is sooooo cool for my wife and I to be able to talk to her about the stories and how she enjoys it. Can't wait until she gets older and gets into the cosmere and other titles that we can duscuss. As always another great video.
Thanks for that. I am now very hungry to start reading all of her books and then watching the show for sure. I am also really looking forward to seeing how well Amazon Prime does with the Wheel of Time series and the Lord of the Rings series too. I am currently reading and listening to Winter's Heart by Robert Jordan and Blood Rites the Grey Wolves book 2 by Quinn Loftis, both of which have been good.
I have already read all the books of the Grishaverse, binged the show the day it came out, and still watching this video because of reasons ^^ I was so scared of the mash of both stories but the Crows fitted so well and I loved it! I think in season 2 or maybe 3 they will have the SoC plotline at the same time as the continuation of Alina's story. It really felt like they were setting things up for the SoC plot in this season with certain details (the DeKappel, Nina and Matthias plot, presenting Pekka already).
I decided to pick up the trilogy after your recommendation of The Grisha verse series and I loved Shadow and Bone but am yet to read the other two books. The T.V. show adaptation looks really good as well.
I don't normally read because I am dyslexic so I typically listen to audiobooks. My daughter read the books and said they did really good job tying both stories. I have only seen the show but really enjoyed it. And I'm a 46 year old man.
I absolutely loved Six of Crows. I read the Shadow and Bone trilogy first and enjoyed it but it was a little bit too young for me. I decided to keep going with SoC, and oh my gosh it was fantastic. I still need to read Crooked Kingdom though, I haven't had the chance to buy it yet! Even in the show i was wayyyyy more invested with the crows than the other characters. Honestly I wouldn't be mad at all if they just made a spinoff show based solely on SoC.
@@dilshadmohammed7613 yea I would think so! The main reason for reading the trilogy first is to get a feel for the world/magic system and since you already got that from the show I think you'd be good to just start with SoC. Happy reading!
They did an amazing job with the show. I didn't love the original trilogy, but Six of Crows and Crooked Kingdom are two of my favorite books of all time and I'm so happy with how they translated the characters onscreen. I can't wait to see more book-centered plotlines and demolition experts. I'm also curious how they'll introduce our favorite privateer and whether they'll adapt King of Scars material.
Thank you!!! for covering this..... I really want to watch the TV show but first I want to start the series: my boyfriend read the complete series and liked it but wasn't over the moon about it 🤷☺️
A friend of mine really wanted me to read these books. I watched the trailer and was intrigued. So I read Shadow and Bone book one and enjoyed it. It reads very YA but was interested in the world and magic system. You’re right it does feel young to me but I can tolerate it for now. It’s actually a nice break between epics since it reads fast. I think I may read Six of Crows before I watch the show because I want to be in the know who the characters are and then complete the geisha verse from there. I think I’ll binge read them all or else they’ll become back burners on the TBR. Thanks for making a spoiler free video. I wanted to know which books to read before watching the show.
This was super helpful! I had never heard about Shadow and Bone before the show came out and it completely hooked me, I’ve watched it 3 times now. I also picked up Six of Crows to read and I’m super excited to get to it. I’m not sure if I’ll read the Shadow and Bone trilogy or just wait for the show. I have heard those mixed opinions of the books (I’m not in the target age range for them), so I don’t really want to ruin my experience with the show by reading the book, if that makes sense :)
this was the cutest video, it’s so fun to see you so excited! I didn’t want to read the books initially because I have had a hard time with YA but I loved the show so much that I’m reading the trilogy now and I’m liking it a lot 😄
YA really isn’t my favorite either, but I loved the books. I think it helped that my expectations were really low 😅. It’s a great trilogy. I kind of want to re read it even though I just finished it yesterday lol
Just finished the show and immediately picked up the books! This video really helped me understand what to expect when I pick them up here soon 😃 but first, I have to finish Elantris!!
I read the books ages ago and now I'm rereading them but I'm still watching this video 😂 I really really enjoyed the show, I like that they combined the two series because I always wondered how the characters would interact with each other, so it was a lot of fun to see that! I hope we get more seasons and I'm so happy for Leigh Bardugo. Although, I have to say, I disagree with a lot of people who say the Six of Crows duology is better than the trilogy (obvs it's their opinion so that's totally cool ahaha) I just think the trilogy is underrated and actually really enjoyable, I think it's just because they're so typical/old school *YA* that people don't give it enough credit and the further away I get from the books, the more I think I enjoy the trilogy over Six of Crows
@Miranda Ylinen yay someone agrees 😂 I love Ruin and Rising too and I actually think it was a really good ending, but I've heard people say they didn't like the ending! I think Siege and Storm might be my favourite, but again, a lot of people complain about it and say it's boring, but I disagree, I think there's a lot of character development in the book and we're introduced to Nikolai! (if I'm remembering correctly 😂)
@Miranda Ylinen I totally agree! It's one of the reasons I'm so excited to be rereading the books, so that I can see the world and characters develop again, there's so much about it to be appreciated! The ending is so beautiful and poignant, I definitely think Leigh Bardugo is an excellent writer and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next with the show and I hope she stays really involved. I'm also glad that the show is making people like Mal more, because he's always got so much unnecessary hate and it really bugs me 😂
@Miranda Ylinen me either! I just think he's a realistic teenage boy, I was so surprised when I watched reviews and stuff after reading the series and heard how much people dislike him. I haven't read King of Scars yet, but I can't wait to get to it! More Nikolai yay!
@@ebnovels I feel like up until now Malina fans have been a rarity, but I think the show will change that 😂 both series are great and both complement each other, I think people are missing out when they skip straight to Six of Crows, but maybe that's just me 🤷♀️
I just finished the trilogy yesterday and loved it. I can’t imagine liking the show more, but my husband and I are going to watch it together, and there’s no way he’d read the books lol. Reading Six of Crows now and will probably start watching when I’m done.
I'm a big epic fantasy reader, I've read all of sanderson, most of Robert Jordan, etc. YA fantasy is what i read to give myself a "break" between big fantasy works. They're great, short, easy, It's a great way to give new authors a try and rest my brain. In this case, i actually heard of the show first, wanted to watch it, realized the book was short and on libby, read it first and then watched the show. I like them both, think they both had merit, but preferred the books ending and the books portrayals of the main characters.
Perfectly timed video. Just watched the series and I have only read the six of crows duology so I was quite curious about the comparison. I liked the show but I still won't be picking up shadows and bone.. and welcome back elle :)
I just picked up the books this past weekend- thank you for your explanation and comparison to the show. I want to read the story first then the show. 📚 thank you. Just subscribed 😉
Thank you! I have been on the fence about the Grisha books for a long while now, especially after reading Bardugo's Ninth House (which was great, Bardugo is a good writer Ninth House proves that) but I'm always on the fence with YA books. Even when I was the perfect age range for YA I didn't read a lot of it. But seeing as these are the only other books Bardugo has written outside of Ninth House, I've been tempted to give them a shot, but something always stops me. There's a lot of positive stuff said about them, but then there's a lot who have said negative thing's about the books. This video has helped me seriously think about picking up the books. Not certain though.
Thanks for this video! I’m really interested in the tv show (my kid self who was obsessed with prince caspian is super excited to see Ben Barnes again 😂) and I was wondering if I would be able to start the books with six of crows rather than shadow and bone, so thanks for answering that!
So I watched the first 3 episodes of the show and then had to stop cuz I really wanted to read Six of Crows before it (all the Ketterdam scenes were so interesting I wanted to learn more about them). The only time I've ever stopped a show to read the original work first was the Hannibal tv series with the first Hannibal book. Loving Six of Crows right now!!!
@a user oh i could only hold out for like a day or two and then finished the rest of the series lol, kinda got myself spoiled on nina and matthias's past but it was still really good so now I'm starting on the second of the duology
I watched the show and realized there was more plot to go and binge read the shadow series in about 12 hours immediately after finishing it😅. Not a huge fan of her writing style there and a lot of the changes in the show were sorely missed in the books, but i would have loved it as a teen (maybe too old now, i assumed it was more about 20 somethings from the show lol). The book could have benefited from multi pov and less telling more showing, and i felt the villain (well most of the shadow characters tbh) was more complex and compelling on screen. Encouraged to hear the crows series is better/more mature, I'll start that next! (Also Idk if this is a sore spot, but reading this series and seeing the publishing dates made me think that the acotar series author read this series, shipped the villain and Alina more and then wrote an extended fanfic about it😂 they even use the same damn line about like calling to like lol)
I started the Netflix series and I am liking it. Bardugo was always my fav YA fantasy author. I have to admit that I have not been reading YA for over a year now. I still have a few YA books but just do not feel like reading them. Is the book Doscile considered YA? I think I spelled the title wrong. I remember there was a lot of bashing about it and when this happens it makes me want to read it more. I actually have it on my Nook. Plan to start it next after I finish “May We Be Forgiven” by A.H. Homes! Always enjoyed your channel! Your makeup is flawless btw! Happy reading!
I used to read a lot when I was younger (now I'm 23 lol), but I can't pick up any series or a book for quite some time. Although I was used to reading series like Game of Thrones or the Witcher, I think I might try to pick it up, just to maybe get myself into reading again hmm
I've wanted to read the series for a long time and now I have a good reason to after watching season 1. I like children's ya and adult so I plan on reading in chronological order. I wondered why they met each other in the show...
I read six of crows first bc I thought it came first, then I watched the show and I absolutely adored the show. I think if they renew the show I’ll def read shadow and bone!
I do think the show has done a great job of making us like certain characters more than we did in the books (MAL). I liked the Grisha trilogy but I am all about the Crows. The Dregs series was absolutely great and I really don't want them to deviate too much from the books. It was just too good. I do think that combining the two series worked well because it balanced out the seriousness. Not going to lie though, I really want the Crows to just get a spin-off. I think that it would do well without Alina's story.
To simplify it, the show creaters took an okay book series (the shadow and bone trilogy), made it better (rewriting mal's character, adding more POV's) and added the six of crows characters, which is arguably the best part about that duology. So if you want to read the shadow and bone trilogy, I am of the opinion that you will be disappointed. BUT, if after watching the show and you didn't care for the plot and didn't like alina, mal or the darkling but loved the crows, I would highly recommend reading six of crows.
Do you think that it’s a good idea that they are adapting Siege and Storm and Ruin and Rising in season 2? That’s alot of stuff to do in one season. Seems like they are trying to finish Alina’s story up in season 2 and maybe do SOC in a potential season 3. If theyre gonna do Alina’s story in season 3 as well then why do both books in season 2 lol. While I would love a SOC story, I don’t want Alina’s story to be rushed. The showrunner said he had plans for 3 seasons but would love to do more so who knows.
I watched the show and wanted to know more about SOC so I read the duology. I love the show and think that I’m just fine going without reading the books because I was more drawn to the SOC characters anyway.
Right after binging the show in the past two days i thought “damn, what do i do now... Elliot Brooks. She’ll know what to do” Low an behold. Thank you so much!
I am new and thank you now am gonna read the S & B first and then SoC I read the first one and watched the show and I was like is the book missing some characters 😅.
I watched the first season of the show and then have just decided to skip the trilogy and have just started Six of Crows. I read mostly adult fantasy but I have a soft spot for heists and thief characters so thought I'd give it a go because I loved those characters in the show!
Read the first trilogy in 1 week. It’s great just read it. I just assumed the characters were 20+ the whole time though, didn’t know they weren’t. Their age is never mentioned from what I read.
Ok I rarely comment on videos 😂😭 but your video was amazing and you talked about everything that I wanted to know and was confused about and it was all very well explained and clear so thank you for this great video it really helped me understand everything💗💗
I read six of crows first and I'm so glad, mainly bc if I had started w sab I don't think I'd have finished it 😅 But because I already loved soc and the Grisha universe, It was easier to enjoy sab.
I'm on the fence in buying the books. I'm not a huge reader, but for some reason I've been wanting to read a good book or series. I've seen a couple episodes of Shadow and Bone and it's pretty awesome. Would you recommend getting the books?
2015 is older? And that was the Six of Crows. How old are you people? I’m 41 and don’t read fantasy but I enjoy the movies and show based on fantasy books such as LOTR and The Witcher of which I am also an avid player. I decided to binge this show last week because of, well, let’s face it, Ben. I could feel the targeted audience or “youth” vibe, but they also did a really good job with keeping it entertaining for adults as well. I was impressed. Most of the flexibility comes from the acting. Jessie was amazing and so was everyone else. Ben being rather corny at times, but I’ve already forgiven Ben for becoming top “bad” guy in most of his work. So he can do no wrong for me.
I binged this show and enjoyed it soooo much but to be honest the six of crows characters were definitely what I enjoyed the most so I'm thinking maybe I should skip the trilogy and just read those? Just because I think i'll spend the three books waiting to get to Kaz, Inej and Jesper hahaha. But also i'm definitely not an experienced adult fantasy reader and read a lot of YA fantasy for a 25 year old haha so maybe I'll enjoy them anyway. Gah i'm stuck.
I'd recommend starting with Six of Crows because it's a far better series. I did it this way and had no issues. The Shadow and Bone-trilogy was a bit of a slog because Alina and Mal are just such whitebread characters and tedious to read about. But there are good parts like Nikolai (that boy carried that trilogy on his back), Genya and Zoya. And I'm glad I slogged through because that trilogy is the basis for the whole Grishaverse and it allowed me to read King of Scars which follows Nikolai, Zoya and Nina.
I've just finished watching the show, haven't read any of the books, YA isn't my thing. The show was pretty solid, i suppose. But gosh darn it, the names and titles were somewhat hilarious since I speaks slavic languages, particularly russian. 🤣
Well, if you are wondering, the series Shadow and Bone is on the New York's best sellers list, so it looks like a lot of people who watched the tv series are now reading the book. So you can be proud of that.
Hi, I just had a quick question! I read S&B, but not SoC. I was wondering if the TV show spoils anything for the latter. If it does, then I'm probably going to read the duology first.
I read the SAB but not SOC yet. I've seen the show first. So I can't answer well but i have a feeling like it won't spoil too much. SOC are kind of side characters and you get hints into their skills and past but you don't know too much about them in the show
With the duology, I feel like Leigh could change the numbers only to make the characters 20+ and it'd instantly qualify as adult fantasy.
I think there are adult fantasy books that are less mature than SoC, but there’s also unfortunately often a certain fan base in adult fantasy that would never accept that 😆
You're probably right thematically and what's being covered in the story which is defs AF but the actual WRITING itself still has that YA vibe to it.
Something tells me they likely encouraged her to age down her characters. Pushing female writers to write YA instead of adult fiction is a popular thing -- always so noticeable when everything else fits adult EXCEPT the ages...Lots of misogyny in the book world.
@@ayeshareads8734 AFAIK, it's also that YA generally sales better, doesn't it? And especially if the author is already known in the genre; if changing genres, normally she would need to start in many ways from scratch, maybe even have separate agent and publisher for it. Which for a continuous series isn't probably even an option.
@@Ailvara To some degree, yeah.. if male authors were pushed to do the same thing, I'd probably consider it more of a sales strategy. Where there's a will, there's a way - there are plenty of authors who jump genres (writing fantasy, noir, mystery, etc.) Six of Crows is published under an imprint of Macmillan. It's actually not as hard as one might think to move around imprints. If your first books did well, there's likely going to be an internal bidding war between imprints, anyway. It might not be the easiest thing in the world so I can understand why someone WOULDN'T do it, but I do think the pattern of shoving women writers into YA when their books could easily be adult fiction is not a coincidence. Book genres and BISACs in general are misogynistic. Hence why we have an entire BISAC for "Women's Fiction" -
I am not a fan of the books but I really enjoyed Nina and Matthias storyline. I think it was masterfully done in the show.
That was my favourite part
It was actually a little bit too fast pace for me...
It's literally the same in the book, but in "real time" instead of flashbacks.
Nina is probably one of my favourite characters ever, but that romance was so forced and cliché... the enemies to lovers trope is overplayed AF.
That said, their relationship gets a lot better during the main storyline, they're amazing despite their cringeworthy first chapters.
I still can't get over the fact that "Grisha" is basically the Russian equivalent to "Greg", so Grishaverse can literally be translated to "Gregverse". I just can't take it seriously
Russian is one of my native languages. I have to also tell you that "Grisha" associates with old redneck or farmer guys due to the fact that the name was popular in 20th-40ths last century amongst farmers, villagers and workers. It is one of the "commoner" names that the rich and aristocrats avoided.
Can't help but be more interested with the side of the story of the Crows, just like how I've felt after reading the books back then. 🤓
I can’t wait to see their stories 😄😄😄
The crows were the best part in the show. Mainly my man Jasper oozing charm
Omg I agree! Every time they switched back to Alina or Mal I was like ugh not them again 🤧 🤣 I might just read the crows books to be honest rather than the main trilogy ahahah
@@hollyowens1715 I totally recommend to read the six of crows duology! the main trilogy is alright but six of crows is where its at. 100 times better than the main trilogy, seriously you wouldn't believe the same person wrote the 2 series. I personally just picked up the six of crows duology first and finished it, before I even knew the Grisha trilogy existed
I watched the show then decided that too and then bought the soc duology and read them and they were very good
As someone who’s loved the Six Of Crows duology for a long time, I thought the show was a great adaptation, and I’m very excited to see Kaz, Inej, and Jesper level up even further in season two (or, I’ve seen some fans say they should get a spinoff, and honestly I’d be so onboard with that too because there’d be more time to explore Ketterdam, which is one of my favorite fantasy locations).
I'm so happy with the adaptations! I loved how they keep these little moments and lines that just really make you smile especially if you have read the books. The show was well casted and the CGI and effects were also really well done. We had a lot of bad history with book to movies/series adaptation and I'm so glad this isn't one of them.
I’m so glad too! It’s honestly one of the best (in my opinion anyway 😅)
I've not read Six of Crows, but if I can venture a guess....having some of the characters in the Netflix adaptation just make the whole story a bit more interesting. They are unique and interesting characters and has made me want to pick up the Six of Crows duology.
You should. It's good
My hubby is now interested in SoC 😆
Doooo it! The Six of Crows duology was a game changer (and this is coming from someone who honestly enjoyed the Shadow & Bone trilogy well enough when I read it). SoC was a Bardugo level up!
@@ebnovels should I only read SoC or whole series? Or maybe combination, watch the show and read SoC?
Honestly, the grishaverse books are pretty good, but I would recommend just going straight to six of crows
Six of Crows is so good. I didn't enjoy shadow and bone though.
@@AF-gd7fh me too. I enjoyed the first book, but siege and storm just didn't really go anywhere much and the villain is extremely overrated
I low-key think the Crows should get a spin-off series after this season because I don't know how they're going to tie in their stories while telling the story of Siege and Storm as well as introducing Nikolai, Toyla, and Tamar.
It's just going to be too much to cram into one season imo
Idk how they’re going to do it either. But I was nervous about them including the crows at all and I thought they did a great job, so idk, maybe they’ll make it work 😄
@@ebnovels Yeah same! I just hope that they tell the Crows' story as well as they did this season because Bardugo said if season 2 happens, she definitely wants Wylan to be in there and I'm curious how that will be executed!!
I was already planning to read all the grisha books before watching the show but now I’m even more excited!
Hurray! Hope you like them 😄
I read the six of crows duology right after I finished the show and I was really surprised by their age in the books, it makes zero sense for them to be this young in the books especially with all their knowledge and skills. Plus they looked way older in the show so I just continued reading the books as if all the characters were 20+ years old
I have watched the Netflix series and was instantly hooked. I decided to pick up the first book cos I couldn't wait. I'm in my early 30s now so frankly I prefer the adaptation. The good thing about reading the first book tho is the WORLD-BUILDING (tho there a lots of key changes like in many adaptations). You'll get to know the types of Grisha that wasn't really covered and defined properly in the TV series. Can't wait to finish reading every book!
The comparison between the books and show is appreciated. Also, your eyeshadow looks amazing.
Just ordered the shadow and bone books after watching the show ! Can’t wait to read them:) I’m kind of in a reading slump at the moment so hopefully this will be an easy read to get me back ! Thanks for the video
Omg that's great!! I hope you enjoy them because although I'll admit you can tell the age range the books were meant for, it's still a really good story with tons of amazing characters!
OMG! Yes! The books are fantastic and I'm glad that your interested in them.
Hurray! Let’s hope they get you out of that reading slump 😄😄😄
The Netflix show is AWESOME! I watched the show 4 times already. Can't wait for season 2 - Surge & Siege ) Crooked Kingdom
I loved Shadow and bone Netflix adaptation and will keep watching. But I REALLY want and WAITING for 6of crows and Crooked kingdom adaptation 😂😂
I knoowwwww 😍
I’m waiting for the King of Scars and Rule of Wolves adaptation
@@ezra2064 we ALL need more Nikolai 😍
This was very helpful and I really appreciate the no spoilers too! I binged the show on Netflix and was wondering how to approach the books, but now I know. I'm very excited to get into more of this world and storylines. 😀 Thank you!
This video is EXACTLY what I was looking for after binging the series. Thank you for the input, as it has absolutely helped direct my purchases
leigh bardugos books (especially Shadow and Bone) have been a staple in my life, with me reading them in middle school where i was the new girl at a new school. i loved the trilogy and they definitely got me through a tough time. i tried reading six of crows later on when they came out (when i was around 16) and for some reason i didnt like them. being older now and starting to reread soc, i think its because they have a different vibe (which i like now but wasnt really interested in when i was younger). soc is darker/definitely more mature and not focused on the magic portion. it was crazy watching the show and seeing characters that lived in my head rent free running around and interacting. i def think having six of crows and shadow and bone happen at the same time was the best idea ever lol
This has been very helpful, thanks. As an older fantasy reader that has watched the show, I will probably skip the Grisha trilogy, but I am curious about the Six of Crows characters, so I'll probably read the duology instead.
Shadow and Bone got me back into fantasy, reading books (and completing them) and I am so grateful!
I wasn't blown away by S&B, just a little too young for me, but I would be hard pressed not to buy those stunning editions you got there! I may be drooling a little. I'm only halfway through the Netflix show but I'm liking it! and I definitely gotta get to Six of Crows now.
On a side note you are looking particularly beautiful today! That hair style and makeup suits you so well.
I was so surprised at how well they executed the show. Like I was shook. I didn't like the Shadow and Bone Trilogy when I read it. However I LOVED the six of crows duology. And this show made me appreciate both of them. I was so sad when I finished it.
I have been a big fantasy fan and have gotten my daughter into it also. My wife and I had tried to get her to read Harry Potter a few years back but now that she is older she has embraced it and has read quite a few young adult books. I am an audiobook person since I am able to listen at work but it is sooooo cool for my wife and I to be able to talk to her about the stories and how she enjoys it. Can't wait until she gets older and gets into the cosmere and other titles that we can duscuss. As always another great video.
Thanks for that. I am now very hungry to start reading all of her books and then watching the show for sure. I am also really looking forward to seeing how well Amazon Prime does with the Wheel of Time series and the Lord of the Rings series too. I am currently reading and listening to Winter's Heart by Robert Jordan and Blood Rites the Grey Wolves book 2 by Quinn Loftis, both of which have been good.
I have already read all the books of the Grishaverse, binged the show the day it came out, and still watching this video because of reasons ^^
I was so scared of the mash of both stories but the Crows fitted so well and I loved it! I think in season 2 or maybe 3 they will have the SoC plotline at the same time as the continuation of Alina's story. It really felt like they were setting things up for the SoC plot in this season with certain details (the DeKappel, Nina and Matthias plot, presenting Pekka already).
I decided to pick up the trilogy after your recommendation of The Grisha verse series and I loved Shadow and Bone but am yet to read the other two books. The T.V. show adaptation looks really good as well.
I don't normally read because I am dyslexic so I typically listen to audiobooks. My daughter read the books and said they did really good job tying both stories. I have only seen the show but really enjoyed it. And I'm a 46 year old man.
I absolutely loved Six of Crows. I read the Shadow and Bone trilogy first and enjoyed it but it was a little bit too young for me. I decided to keep going with SoC, and oh my gosh it was fantastic. I still need to read Crooked Kingdom though, I haven't had the chance to buy it yet! Even in the show i was wayyyyy more invested with the crows than the other characters. Honestly I wouldn't be mad at all if they just made a spinoff show based solely on SoC.
I have watched the netflix series , so can I skip SAB and start from 6 of crows now.?🤔
@@dilshadmohammed7613 yea I would think so! The main reason for reading the trilogy first is to get a feel for the world/magic system and since you already got that from the show I think you'd be good to just start with SoC. Happy reading!
They did an amazing job with the show. I didn't love the original trilogy, but Six of Crows and Crooked Kingdom are two of my favorite books of all time and I'm so happy with how they translated the characters onscreen. I can't wait to see more book-centered plotlines and demolition experts.
I'm also curious how they'll introduce our favorite privateer and whether they'll adapt King of Scars material.
I just started watching S&B, and it gives me hope that Netflix could do the Stormlight Archive adaptation.
Thank you!!! for covering this..... I really want to watch the TV show but first I want to start the series: my boyfriend read the complete series and liked it but wasn't over the moon about it 🤷☺️
A friend of mine really wanted me to read these books. I watched the trailer and was intrigued. So I read Shadow and Bone book one and enjoyed it. It reads very YA but was interested in the world and magic system. You’re right it does feel young to me but I can tolerate it for now. It’s actually a nice break between epics since it reads fast.
I think I may read Six of Crows before I watch the show because I want to be in the know who the characters are and then complete the geisha verse from there. I think I’ll binge read them all or else they’ll become back burners on the TBR.
Thanks for making a spoiler free video. I wanted to know which books to read before watching the show.
You’re welcome! And for sure, YA can be such a nice break between all the big stuff 😄
I havent finished the show yet but I agree: i think they did a phenomenal job and it's really a great adaptation
we agree also :~) Super fun addition
This is exactly the video I needed. Thank you!! I absolutely loved the show and really wanted to read the books but had no idea where to start.
This was super helpful! I had never heard about Shadow and Bone before the show came out and it completely hooked me, I’ve watched it 3 times now. I also picked up Six of Crows to read and I’m super excited to get to it. I’m not sure if I’ll read the Shadow and Bone trilogy or just wait for the show. I have heard those mixed opinions of the books (I’m not in the target age range for them), so I don’t really want to ruin my experience with the show by reading the book, if that makes sense :)
Definitely makes sense! I hope you enjoy the story :D
this was the cutest video, it’s so fun to see you so excited! I didn’t want to read the books initially because I have had a hard time with YA but I loved the show so much that I’m reading the trilogy now and I’m liking it a lot 😄
Oh yay!!! That’s great 😄 I hope you continue to enjoy it 💗💗💗
YA really isn’t my favorite either, but I loved the books. I think it helped that my expectations were really low 😅. It’s a great trilogy. I kind of want to re read it even though I just finished it yesterday lol
Just finished the show and immediately picked up the books! This video really helped me understand what to expect when I pick them up here soon 😃 but first, I have to finish Elantris!!
I read the books ages ago and now I'm rereading them but I'm still watching this video 😂 I really really enjoyed the show, I like that they combined the two series because I always wondered how the characters would interact with each other, so it was a lot of fun to see that! I hope we get more seasons and I'm so happy for Leigh Bardugo. Although, I have to say, I disagree with a lot of people who say the Six of Crows duology is better than the trilogy (obvs it's their opinion so that's totally cool ahaha) I just think the trilogy is underrated and actually really enjoyable, I think it's just because they're so typical/old school *YA* that people don't give it enough credit and the further away I get from the books, the more I think I enjoy the trilogy over Six of Crows
@Miranda Ylinen yay someone agrees 😂 I love Ruin and Rising too and I actually think it was a really good ending, but I've heard people say they didn't like the ending! I think Siege and Storm might be my favourite, but again, a lot of people complain about it and say it's boring, but I disagree, I think there's a lot of character development in the book and we're introduced to Nikolai! (if I'm remembering correctly 😂)
@Miranda Ylinen I totally agree! It's one of the reasons I'm so excited to be rereading the books, so that I can see the world and characters develop again, there's so much about it to be appreciated! The ending is so beautiful and poignant, I definitely think Leigh Bardugo is an excellent writer and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do next with the show and I hope she stays really involved. I'm also glad that the show is making people like Mal more, because he's always got so much unnecessary hate and it really bugs me 😂
@Miranda Ylinen me either! I just think he's a realistic teenage boy, I was so surprised when I watched reviews and stuff after reading the series and heard how much people dislike him. I haven't read King of Scars yet, but I can't wait to get to it! More Nikolai yay!
Yeah, the trilogy gets a lot of hate! I liked both series, AND I’m a Malina fan, so I too have felt like I was in the minority 😂
@@ebnovels I feel like up until now Malina fans have been a rarity, but I think the show will change that 😂 both series are great and both complement each other, I think people are missing out when they skip straight to Six of Crows, but maybe that's just me 🤷♀️
A perfectly timed video! I have only read the first book and was wondering how things overlap in the show with six of crows. Thanks so much!
Just finished the show. I thought it was fantastic. There are some great characters here. I'm very interested in reading the books.
This video was exactly what I was looking for. Happy I found it! Thanks.
I just finished the trilogy yesterday and loved it. I can’t imagine liking the show more, but my husband and I are going to watch it together, and there’s no way he’d read the books lol. Reading Six of Crows now and will probably start watching when I’m done.
I hope you and your hubby enjoy the show!!!
I read the trilogy and the duology, my husband is not a reader, and we both liked the show! Hope you guys like it too
I read adult fantasy exclusively and I picked up the shadow and bone trilogy and I gotta say I was pleasantly surprised by how much I loved it
I'm a big epic fantasy reader, I've read all of sanderson, most of Robert Jordan, etc. YA fantasy is what i read to give myself a "break" between big fantasy works. They're great, short, easy, It's a great way to give new authors a try and rest my brain.
In this case, i actually heard of the show first, wanted to watch it, realized the book was short and on libby, read it first and then watched the show.
I like them both, think they both had merit, but preferred the books ending and the books portrayals of the main characters.
Perfectly timed video. Just watched the series and I have only read the six of crows duology so I was quite curious about the comparison. I liked the show but I still won't be picking up shadows and bone.. and welcome back elle :)
Waited for this. Thanks for this video!
You’re very welcome!
I just picked up the books this past weekend- thank you for your explanation and comparison to the show. I want to read the story first then the show. 📚 thank you. Just subscribed 😉
What would you say is the best movie/TV Series/Mini Series that was based on an Adult Fantasy book series (aside from LOTR/Hobbits)?
I'm interested as well. I want to get more into reading
Thank you! I have been on the fence about the Grisha books for a long while now, especially after reading Bardugo's Ninth House (which was great, Bardugo is a good writer Ninth House proves that) but I'm always on the fence with YA books. Even when I was the perfect age range for YA I didn't read a lot of it. But seeing as these are the only other books Bardugo has written outside of Ninth House, I've been tempted to give them a shot, but something always stops me. There's a lot of positive stuff said about them, but then there's a lot who have said negative thing's about the books. This video has helped me seriously think about picking up the books. Not certain though.
Thanks for this video! I’m really interested in the tv show (my kid self who was obsessed with prince caspian is super excited to see Ben Barnes again 😂) and I was wondering if I would be able to start the books with six of crows rather than shadow and bone, so thanks for answering that!
Haha, I remember him as Caspian too 😂 And then a very different character in punisher 🤣
So I watched the first 3 episodes of the show and then had to stop cuz I really wanted to read Six of Crows before it (all the Ketterdam scenes were so interesting I wanted to learn more about them). The only time I've ever stopped a show to read the original work first was the Hannibal tv series with the first Hannibal book. Loving Six of Crows right now!!!
@a user oh i could only hold out for like a day or two and then finished the rest of the series lol, kinda got myself spoiled on nina and matthias's past but it was still really good so now I'm starting on the second of the duology
Iam 15 and I am now reading the first book and I love it soo mutch
Wait so do the crows show up in shadow and bone? Books
Just started Shadow and Bone after watching the first four episodes of the Netflix show. I like it.
I really do want read the Grisha trilogy now after watching the show. I love six of crows and the show was soooo good
It WAS so good 😍 I already want the next season :D
@@ebnovels same!!! I need it nowww
I needed this video! Exactly what I was looking for! Thank youuuuuu! 👏👏👏
Hey!
Just wondering if the series is only based on the first book or is it based on the 3 first book? Thank you!
I watched the show and realized there was more plot to go and binge read the shadow series in about 12 hours immediately after finishing it😅. Not a huge fan of her writing style there and a lot of the changes in the show were sorely missed in the books, but i would have loved it as a teen (maybe too old now, i assumed it was more about 20 somethings from the show lol). The book could have benefited from multi pov and less telling more showing, and i felt the villain (well most of the shadow characters tbh) was more complex and compelling on screen. Encouraged to hear the crows series is better/more mature, I'll start that next!
(Also Idk if this is a sore spot, but reading this series and seeing the publishing dates made me think that the acotar series author read this series, shipped the villain and Alina more and then wrote an extended fanfic about it😂 they even use the same damn line about like calling to like lol)
I started the Netflix series and I am liking it. Bardugo was always my fav YA fantasy author. I have to admit that I have not been reading YA for over a year now. I still have a few YA books but just do not feel like reading them. Is the book Doscile considered YA? I think I spelled the title wrong. I remember there was a lot of bashing about it and when this happens it makes me want to read it more. I actually have it on my Nook. Plan to start it next after I finish “May We Be Forgiven” by A.H. Homes!
Always enjoyed your channel! Your makeup is flawless btw! Happy reading!
I used to read a lot when I was younger (now I'm 23 lol), but I can't pick up any series or a book for quite some time. Although I was used to reading series like Game of Thrones or the Witcher, I think I might try to pick it up, just to maybe get myself into reading again hmm
Loved your earings!
Thank you! They’re clip ons 😂
I've wanted to read the series for a long time and now I have a good reason to after watching season 1. I like children's ya and adult so I plan on reading in chronological order. I wondered why they met each other in the show...
I read six of crows first bc I thought it came first, then I watched the show and I absolutely adored the show. I think if they renew the show I’ll def read shadow and bone!
So I know so many have a crush on the darkling. Can you do a video with recs for more darkling ish characters. Either books or movies?
Oh man, maybe, but idk if I know that many 😅
But. Every YA book has a brooding male main character lol 🌚 try mortal instruments, it's also alternate universe
I think rhysand from a court of thorns and roses reminds me of the darkling
I've already read the books and watched the show but I'm still going to watch this video
I'm too old for YA books but the adaptation was very pleasing to me. Looking forward to season 2.
I do think the show has done a great job of making us like certain characters more than we did in the books (MAL). I liked the Grisha trilogy but I am all about the Crows. The Dregs series was absolutely great and I really don't want them to deviate too much from the books. It was just too good. I do think that combining the two series worked well because it balanced out the seriousness. Not going to lie though, I really want the Crows to just get a spin-off. I think that it would do well without Alina's story.
Thank you this was very helpful actually!!
I actually loved the six of crows characters and plot so much more in the show!!!!
Very glad you made this video! I just found the Netflix series and am looking at getting started with the books myself
To simplify it, the show creaters took an okay book series (the shadow and bone trilogy), made it better (rewriting mal's character, adding more POV's) and added the six of crows characters, which is arguably the best part about that duology. So if you want to read the shadow and bone trilogy, I am of the opinion that you will be disappointed. BUT, if after watching the show and you didn't care for the plot and didn't like alina, mal or the darkling but loved the crows, I would highly recommend reading six of crows.
I didn't care for the crows v0v
@@virieful okay well then I would recommend reading the shadow and bone trilogy because it doesn't have any of the crows and it centered around Alina.
Do you think that it’s a good idea that they are adapting Siege and Storm and Ruin and Rising in season 2? That’s alot of stuff to do in one season. Seems like they are trying to finish Alina’s story up in season 2 and maybe do SOC in a potential season 3. If theyre gonna do Alina’s story in season 3 as well then why do both books in season 2 lol. While I would love a SOC story, I don’t want Alina’s story to be rushed. The showrunner said he had plans for 3 seasons but would love to do more so who knows.
I watched the show and wanted to know more about SOC so I read the duology. I love the show and think that I’m just fine going without reading the books because I was more drawn to the SOC characters anyway.
Right after binging the show in the past two days i thought “damn, what do i do now... Elliot Brooks. She’ll know what to do”
Low an behold.
Thank you so much!
You’re very welcome :D
I am new and thank you now am gonna read the S & B first and then SoC I read the first one and watched the show and I was like is the book missing some characters 😅.
I watched the first season of the show and then have just decided to skip the trilogy and have just started Six of Crows. I read mostly adult fantasy but I have a soft spot for heists and thief characters so thought I'd give it a go because I loved those characters in the show!
Ohh, I hope you enjoy SoC then 😄😄😄
I loved the books and am happier with the show than I thought! Also I love your hair in this video :)
Thank you! And yay 😄😄😄
Read the first trilogy in 1 week. It’s great just read it. I just assumed the characters were 20+ the whole time though, didn’t know they weren’t. Their age is never mentioned from what I read.
Ok I rarely comment on videos 😂😭 but your video was amazing and you talked about everything that I wanted to know and was confused about and it was all very well explained and clear so thank you for this great video it really helped me understand everything💗💗
You're very welcome! I'm glad I could help :D
@@ebnovels 💗💗🌸
I have watched the netflix series , so can I skip SAB and start from 6 of crows now.?🤔
Can you please make a list of the titles on your bookshelves behind you?...i bet they're all gems...dying to know
I read six of crows first and I'm so glad, mainly bc if I had started w sab I don't think I'd have finished it 😅 But because I already loved soc and the Grisha universe, It was easier to enjoy sab.
I love your materialki shirt! 💜
Thank you!!! 😄
I'm on the fence in buying the books. I'm not a huge reader, but for some reason I've been wanting to read a good book or series. I've seen a couple episodes of Shadow and Bone and it's pretty awesome. Would you recommend getting the books?
I have a question....does the Shadow and bone TV series include Six Of Crows spoilers
I liked following the crows story in the series more. I think I'll get the six of crows books first.
So i have watched the 2 seasons , am very interested in sic of crows characters can i read it without reading the trilogy?
2015 is older? And that was the Six of Crows. How old are you people? I’m 41 and don’t read fantasy but I enjoy the movies and show based on fantasy books such as LOTR and The Witcher of which I am also an avid player. I decided to binge this show last week because of, well, let’s face it, Ben. I could feel the targeted audience or “youth” vibe, but they also did a really good job with keeping it entertaining for adults as well. I was impressed. Most of the flexibility comes from the acting. Jessie was amazing and so was everyone else. Ben being rather corny at times, but I’ve already forgiven Ben for becoming top “bad” guy in most of his work. So he can do no wrong for me.
Loved your review 💯 The show did a amazing job and cast😁💯
Gained a new subscriber 😁 Love from India♥️
I binged this show and enjoyed it soooo much but to be honest the six of crows characters were definitely what I enjoyed the most so I'm thinking maybe I should skip the trilogy and just read those? Just because I think i'll spend the three books waiting to get to Kaz, Inej and Jesper hahaha. But also i'm definitely not an experienced adult fantasy reader and read a lot of YA fantasy for a 25 year old haha so maybe I'll enjoy them anyway. Gah i'm stuck.
I'd recommend starting with Six of Crows because it's a far better series. I did it this way and had no issues.
The Shadow and Bone-trilogy was a bit of a slog because Alina and Mal are just such whitebread characters and tedious to read about.
But there are good parts like Nikolai (that boy carried that trilogy on his back), Genya and Zoya.
And I'm glad I slogged through because that trilogy is the basis for the whole Grishaverse and it allowed me to read King of Scars which follows Nikolai, Zoya and Nina.
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Haha, thank you friend. In person you can see the colors from the covers, but on camera it just looked teal 😂
YES super nice :~) :~)
and it's only the first book right ? so it wouldn't spoil siege and storm, ruin and rising ?
I've just finished watching the show, haven't read any of the books, YA isn't my thing. The show was pretty solid, i suppose. But gosh darn it, the names and titles were somewhat hilarious since I speaks slavic languages, particularly russian. 🤣
the make up is superb *cheffs kiss*
Haha, thanks 😄
I'm definitely curious
Thanks! this was helpful :) I'm gonna jump to six of crows.
Well, if you are wondering, the series Shadow and Bone is on the New York's best sellers list, so it looks like a lot of people who watched the tv series are now reading the book. So you can be proud of that.
Hi, I just had a quick question! I read S&B, but not SoC. I was wondering if the TV show spoils anything for the latter. If it does, then I'm probably going to read the duology first.
I read the SAB but not SOC yet. I've seen the show first. So I can't answer well but i have a feeling like it won't spoil too much. SOC are kind of side characters and you get hints into their skills and past but you don't know too much about them in the show
I’m in the middle of the second book! I wanna read the books before the show 🥸