It’s automotive hate bandwagonning. A lot of us car guys are guilty of it. As I’ve gotten older I try to only talk about my personal experiences with particular cars vs word of mouth/internet opinions on cars. I’m glad you guys enjoy the Maserati!
Best comment. So many uninformed people comment on vehicles that they don't even understand. Just because they hear it on the internet, it must be true.🙄
@@hellkitty1014 it's usually the Toyota idiots that do it. Makes me hate their brand that much more. It's like, what the hell do you care if someone's car is allegedly "unreliable?"
@@vw5056 they think that Toyota is infallible. That is not the case. There are plenty of Euro car snobs there look down on some cars and nitpick about interior. But when you consider that a BMW M8 is 40-50k more than a Mustang GT premium, it should be.
Car Wizard hit on a very important bit - take care of your vehicle! That means do the maintenance and service it immediately when necessary. That's been the bane of most 'exotic' vehicles - miss a service interval and issues adds up astronomically. Car Wizard understands the game, so don't hate the player.
Well there is take care of your car . And there is don't drive it in normal winter conditions, which basically what this thing is built for ! If you have a Rav4 on those winter days You might as well have a Corvette for the other days !
FYI: Mrs. Wizard - BMWs & Mercedes display an ice warning at 37 F. Apparently this is because bridges & overpasses freeze sooner at this temperature due to the cold wind passing underneath them and thereby the warning. I would assume Maserati's warning system is doing the same thing just at a slightly higher, more conservative temperature of 39 F.
My Hyundai and Genesis also ding at 39 degrees. It's really annoying. My Volvo had a little orange snowflake light on the dash that would illumanate at 36 F. It was perfect.
Here in Europe we have the warning usually in 2 stages. 1. Either at 4°C/2°C (39°F/36°F) depending on the manufacturer and 2. At 0°C (32°F). The reason for the 1. as far as I know is that if the air temperature is at that level there could be very well be parts of the road that are colder than that (e.g. a road which runs alongside a forest or between som higher buildings where the sun doesn't touch the ground)
My Golf also gives a little ping when the temp drops below 4 degrees C (39 degrees F). It's a perfectly sensible reminder, as a lot of people don't consider the fact that bridges etc can get slippery long before the rest of the road does. Curiously, it'll also give me a reminder when the temp rises above -5 degrees C (23 degrees F).
I admittedly had the same assumptions about Maseratis until I spent some time as a Maserati technician. That twin turbo v6 has become one of my favorite engines, and they're very reliable. Those cars only really have a few common issues. They're cars that you can't judge by the numbers, because by the numbers they're not as good as their German counterparts, but Maserati is one of the only companies that still offers that old school, super tactile driving feel that you just can't get in modern cars, and for that reason I'd drive one over a BMW or Mercedes any day. Also, just an FYI, the ICE button actually stands for Increased Comfort and Efficiency rather than being a winter driving mode, kinda confusing.
@@toyota420xp The range in quality between the worst cars and best cars is measured in problems per 100 cars. The range is pretty narrow, from like 50 per 100 to 200 problem per 100 cars. Most cars will do pretty well if they are taken care of.
@@toyota420xp Except Toyota isn't the "most reliable" anymore. How do you even measure something like that? Reliable means can be relied upon to not leave you stranded. Most new cars fit that description even if they might have some issues.
Yeah. That's what everyone cares about. Not trying agree with internet trolls. But I am sure they are crap after 6+ years. Or requires too much maintenance
I had a Maserati as a loaner from our local Maserati/Mercedes dealer when my Mercedes was in the shop and they were out of Mercedes loaners (hmmmmmm????). I loved it. I’ve been looking at them ever since. Beautiful SUV, I hope you enjoy it for years to come.
If this SUV pulled beside me at a stop light, I'd bet money it was a Buick with those 3 chrome circles on the front panels. It's not an overly impressive car to me...cookie cutter SUV styling.
As someone who currently own both a Ghibli and Levante, I can say that they both have been reliable. The levante in particular has an amazing ride, great build quality, and is super comfortable. Of all of the eurpoean cars I have/haved owned, it is one of my favorites!
6:55 The warning at the 39F or 4 Celsius is OK. It is meant for the winter time for the shadow parts of the road namely despite 39F/4 C outside those parts of the road may have a black ice .
Are there any years that we should avoid? I love the Levante, but the misses also heard about reliability issues. The closest Maserati dealership to me is two hours away in Orlando. 😔
Pretty normal on OHC V engines where the intake will be between the V leaving the top of the cam covers clear. Inline engines they often bring the intake manifold across the top of the engine which can make it a pain to replace them.
Sadly there's a lot of modern cars that seem to be a complete failure by 50k, and a lot of older Maserati's are known for that. Time will tell what this will do but so far so good and if something does happen she's married to the right person to fix it.
Yeah. And these failures are sadly pretty usual with modern day Bmw/Mercedes/Volvo. During the last three years My family have had experiences with Volvo V90 Cc front shocks being shot in less than 40k kilometres and having a slight oil leak on the exhaust manifold at 70k. Also 2017 7-series bmw with egr and map-sensor issues at 60k kilometres and 2017 Mercedes Benz E-series having bad front end ball joints at 100k kms. Also a delivery mileage Volvo xc40 with CEL within a week. My friend’s MY2019 Volvo V90 has already been treated with new door locks in every door, new sim card reader and new engine mounts, all within 60k kilometres and warranty time. All the car manufacturers cut costs and corners (such as proper QA) these days and you eventually end up having issues. Therefore I suggest that you rather choose a car you really like rather than a car with ”heritage”. This way you are not questioning your car choice when the unevitable happens 😁 and sometimes you can be surprised pleasantly when the underdog is dead reliable.
@@Wunderbaumsporting you could say the same thing about most modern GM vehicles the exception being the trucks. At least for now they're not too bad considering what your options are anyway. Every manufacturer these days seems to cut corners in quality and then charge a fortune for their product, almost a second mortgage to buy a brand new car anymore...
@@jhomrich89 The exception of GM trucks doesn’t even apply anymore sadly with lifter failures on V8 engines happening before 8,500 miles. Keep in mind these are brand new models not even 1 year old.
I would say in my experience 85% of any issues/lights that come on in a Maserati are solved by a good hard drive. Most issues are from letting them sit.... like almost any fun vehicle.
I would say 85% of issues with Maserati are solved by buying them new or near new and then selling them before they get to 5 to 10 years old. Lovely cars to own from new, terrible cars to own as the 3rd or 4th owner.
I owned five Alfa Romeos in the UK varying from brand new to fourteen years old. In twenty years I had one breakdown on a seventeen year old car. I had a few electrical glitches, but guess what, the faulty parts were all Bosch components. Provided you keep up with maintainance Italian cars are fine and much more enjoyable to own than most. I love your Levante and if my lottery numbers come up I'l be straight off to buy one, or a Ghibli maybe 👍....or both 😁
You know what, you gotta admit when you learn something new, glad to see a good mechanic say that these cars are somewhat okay. Awesome content as always
I admit I always thought Mazarati was a very unreliable brand. However, I would never insult someone based on their choice of car. That's utterly childish. That said, this one is still pretty new and the Wizard can fix anything that comes up, so the worst case scenario for Ms. Wizard is a lot better than it would be for most people.
They are, But only because it's a premium sports car brand, and you aren't expected to drive them everyday, but you are expected to maintain them properly Things like is one are more mainstream, and based on mass produced products, therefore expected to put up with more abuse. I would be more worried about the cheap Chrysler rubbish in it, than the Maserati bits.
@@kevinshort3943 haha I know right, people concerned about the Maserati DNA in this car but it's dad (Chrysler) ain't got good genes either haha these poor cars were just doomed from birth.
Their history does not disprove your previous thoughts but they are wonderful cars and fine works are often fragile but yet the owners still keep them and love them which shows you just how good they are. Obviously recently they aren’t plagued with issues like their old cars were just the same sort of things that plague most new cars. Electrical gremlins on the occasional car, however they’re much much more reliable than Tesla’s and people aren’t slandered for owning those
@@kevinshort3943 We used to own a Maserati in the UK, always perfectly behaved, never let us down and was always serviced as stipulated by the manufacturer. Starting it would cause the hair on the back of your neck to stand up and the 50 - 70 mph acceleration - overtaking manoeuvre - was breathtaking. Ignore the bemoaners, childish jealousy.
The Italians' cars have improved an awful lot, it's been a long time since they were reliability basket cases. And watching Iain Tyrrel's channel I'm getting a new respect for the mechanical engineering in old Lambos (apart from the rust!); fine if looked after well, and some clever ideas.
@@bigbangbobby Yeah, such "trash" that Fiat has the most European car of the year awards, top 10 manufacturer, and Italian cars are the most sought after of any country and been in business over a century. All Germans are JUNK, except for Porsche.
@Nabor Simbor That's no guarantee of quality. Even Boeing claims to have an Andon, Kanban system on their assembly lines, but thats not helped at all. Quality starts with the attitude of the Chairman/woman, and descends down from that. Andon, etc are all things one does to deliver on that attitude, and they're all things that cannot exist without the support of the very top of the company. Kanban is itself more of an efficiency thing than a quality tool, though the two are related: it's all part of saying money doesn't matter as much as quality. So Italian cars have improved because the senior management wanted them to.
Drive what you like. You know what the benefits and risks are with owning that SUV. Enjoy what you have and who cares what others think. The other day the wife and I were in a auto parts store buying new wiper blades when the clerk started bashing our cars (the sc430 the wizard fixed up and a Lincoln Continental BL).
And the same clerk is probably driving a 25 year old car that barely runs with parts falling off. A lot of the criticism out there is some strange hatred for cars those people have never owned, never driven and will never afford in their lifetime. It is beyond bizarre to spend that much time and effort on hating something you will never own.
I'm glad that you're showing people through experience that these cars are quite good to drive an own. They were negatively perceived due to their association to FCA and some parts bin sharing. I find from personal experience that the biggest haters are German car fan boys where as people driving Alfa Romeo jaguar Volvo and American seem to be more open minded
Yes . It's true. The German car fanboys are usually the biggest idiots. They are quite happy to tolerate massive oil leaks everywhere, cracked flimsy plastic used all over the engine, and expensive never ending repair bills.
I feel the same in my local cars and coffee Facebook group because I happen to own an Abarth 500. It’s not even my main car and usually people who know jack about cars (they usually drive clapped out Nissans) get so triggered that I happen to occasionally drive a fiat. It’s lightly modded/tuned, has over 130k miles and has been the most fun car I’ve ever owned and trouble free.
Great video wizard. Glad to see you dispelling all the reliability rumors. Have 72k on my 17 Levante SQ4 and 68k on my 15 quattroporte sq4 and neither have had any issues.
The ice warning is due to wet bulb temperature. Freezing can occur well above 32 degrees F "dry bulb." The temperature we read on normal thermometers is the dry bulb temperature. The wet bulb temperature is a function of dry bulb temperature and relative humidity. At lower humidity freezing can occur at higher dry bulb temps. That's why you can have snow/sleet/graupel precipitation when the apparent ambient temperature is greater than 32F.
39 degrees is about right for an ice warning. Actually, it might be around that temp that you most need a warning, because you could be in for a rude awakening going over a bridge or driving through a cold spot.
All european cars have the warning starting at 39F or 3C degrees that possible ice on the road. I have a french car and same thing and had an Alfa from 2005 and at 3C degrees it would show as a warning. It's not an issue, it's a normal thing.
Thank you for dispelling the rumors. I have an Alfa Romeo, Giulia Quad and I’ve had it for five years. Nothing has gone wrong other than wear and tear. People get hung up on Toyota and Honda reliability but those cars don’t offer anything in terms of emotion and I say that because I also own a Honda. I’m considering a Ghibli when my old Volvo dies.
My 1988 BMW 750iL also has this ice warning feature (mine triggers it at 37 degrees Fahrenheit). It's a safety feature. The 32 degrees is not an absolute fixed temperature. Lots of variables, including wind chill factor, presence of oil in the water or other chemicals such as salt, oil, etc. The warning is meant to make the driver aware of black ice (ice mixed with oil patches) on the road. Better to be safe than sorry.
@@vw5056 Careful what you wish for. It's a bit of a mixed bag. I love the V12, the performance and smoothness of this one of a kind engine. Downside, it's a pain in the ass to work on and the parts are a bit of a challenge to get for this engine which has been out of production for 27 years. The rear self leveling suspension is prone to leaking and the rear shocks and control regulator are no longer made or supported by BMW. Overall I love it and wouldn't trade it for the world. It's not for everyone and deserves a certain kind of owner to remain loyal to it. Thanks for the reply. You can't put a price on love. Mine is a rare low-option car: no traction control, no electronic shocks, no rear seat heating. Has leather steering, power front heated seats and all other standard options.
Have had a Gran Turismo for 3 years… zero issues outside of the general maintenance & the V8 sounded incredible stock on sport mode. Have a Quattroporte now and same no issues in 2 years. Looking at a 2017-2019 Levante as my Benz has been less reliable that expected.
@@themenbehindyourcamera5550 most likely a lease or if lease prices was high bought it did a 5 year loan and trade in and pay basically the same and put more mileage as if it was a lease
We traded the older one on an Escalade and the wife hated it. We traded the Escalade in on the new one. My wife loves the size and ride. She will be like the wizard's wife and keep this one for a long time.
I mean 2 years ago, I saw a 15 ram already rusting out. I saw a 2020 ram with screws under the carpet just left there. Still with the dealership sticker on it.
About 1990, I towed a Maserati into the shop on a sling style tow truck. Boss lady about had a stroke. It had slid off the road in a snow storm. The owner was afraid somebody else would slide off in the same spot and make things worse. The only thing I could see that would be damaged by the sling was the A/C condenser, it was already trashed. He was right, I pulled two cars out of the same spot later, they would have hit the Maserati.
I have a 2019 Levante S. I LOVE IT!! So sexy and a total head turner. The only issue I have has has been tires. I went through the continentals in 3 months!!! It's my every day car and I use it for carpool so I am not driving super fast. I then put Pirelli tires on it, also had to be changed fairly soon. I have researched and this seems to be an issue across the board.
this one is very informative..... I have always been told that Maserati's have awesome visual presence but have the reliability of a lemon.... then again, they say BMW's have no reliability either.... but since I do my oil changes every 5 000 miles.... I still have no issues at 65 000 miles either.....
Exactly. I find it funny his feelings were hurt over the Maserati comments considering his constant hatred of BMWs. I know plenty of people with great BMW experiences too. 11+ years here with mine. It’s a great car.
Big believer in the magic of depreciation that is late to seeing this. Thanks very much, I'm adding the Levante to my target list! Don't apologize for the Michelins, I run Pilot Sport A/S 4s and they are unbelievable. The ice warning thing is funny, BMW kicks one out at +37F. The Chrysler based infotainment system is no bummer either, I've quite liked uConnect in the rentals I've had.
FYI Wizard, the Jeep Grand Cherokee also has an air suspension. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same one as your Maserati since they're both FCA vehicles. And I wouldn't be afraid to drive the Jeep in bad weather either.
When I first became a Maserati tech I thought they were going to be complex, unreliable turds. After the first year I realized that if the maintenance is actually kept up with, which many people like to ignore, they're actually great cars. One thing I can say is, being from NYC, they are definitely not meant for those NYC roads 😂
@@mongo64071 There are some great roads not too far away from NYC. Parts of the Catskill mountains can look a bit like European country roads - they have curvey sweepers with lakes on either side of them. There are also a handful of amazing technical roads in North Jersey. I actually think the most pointless place to own a car like this is South Florida, as every single road is straight unless you drive hundreds of miles away.
Road is colder than the sensor positioning on the car. Plus there might be ice from a sub-zero night/morning that is getting warmer, but ice is not fully melted
Mrs. Wizard, we had black ice at 37°F over here in Washington state about a month ago. I was shocked that it was somehow icy at that warm of a temp but people were crashing everywhere (including myself lol)
New cars are surprisingly easy to work on in my opinion. I'm no pro and I've pretty much exclusively worked on modern, computerized cars, so I can't compare to how they are to older vehicles, but to me, a car is a car, and a bolt is a bolt. Of course you will run into some problems if you need to program computer stuff or something.
Just a little thing, if the bay would be cleaned.., it should be more pleasant... I was used to work on airplanes and we are not used to dust on engines...! But, maybe I'm a little manic..!!
@@jaybeemhardscrote7466 It's how many parts you have to remove to access another part, and the ease of getting at them. I think one of the things Car Wizard has highlighted is that BMW and to a certain extent Mercedes make it difficult for no good reason, and he finds the Maserati under bonnet refreshingly "honest" in its presentation of components. I find modern cars hideously complicated compared to my Alfa V6.. which was considered complicated 25 years ago. It now looks refreshingly straightforward in so many ways ( Modern Alfas don't escape criticism though, but they are no better nor worse than most current offerings from any manufacturer).
Mine has over 50k miles and still run smooth no major issues other than the standard wear n tear. I only use it for business and don’t go over 10k miles per year
I have a Red Gran Turismo MC Stradale, I love it. It's the perfect pairing with my Murciélago. Amazing and smooth shifting, great sound of the xpipe exhaust. Great grand tourer I take up and down PCH. They're under appreciated cars, people forget they're designed by pininfarina , who designed Ferraris up until the F8 tributo.
if you look up reviews on the f160 v6 they are proven motors with very few issues! the ford Eco boost actually has more issues that cause catastrophic engine failure like fasser and chain failures.... and turbo failures at under 50k miles. every car maker now days all use the same parts they are ALL built with Chinese pieces.
80k for a glorified grocery-getter. Higher insurance and for the 99.9% of people who do not own their own garage, higher service and repair costs. I’m glad I never cared what people thought of my “car status” in the parking lot of the Cheesecake Factory and spent my money sensibly.
When I had a 2016 Lexus NX200t in my shop recently for total nonfunction of the screen and audio system, I found the Audio module is $6600. My opinion of many brands changed. That same equivalent part is cheaper for several much more expensive brands. Lexus fell off their pedestal quickly.
Just because toyota owns lexus doesnt mean lexus parts are gonna always be cheap. It's still a luxury car at the end of a day which means you have to keep an eye out for premium costs.
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on TH-cam! I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music!
Best car i've ever owned had a 2016 3.0v6 had it nearly 150'000 km had only preventive maintence (exept of once the aircompressor for the suspension got wrong at 135'000 km but Maserati had covered it for free even after warranty expired). Got it back to the dealer after leasing, to ordering a 2022 model. Can't wait to get it delivered, before i've had a Mercedes ML this thing was absolute junk in comparison. 3-4 times a year at the shop, no mercedes ever again for me.
As a long-time trucker, I can assure you that black ice can form at temperatures well above freezing due to the ground staying cold. This is especially true on bridges and overpasses. Love that Maserati interior.
The ice message that comes up on the dash is totally normal when it's cold outside. I work at a Toyota dealership and the new ones do that all the time as well.
Hi Car Wizard and Mrs. Wizard, I follow your Channel and am subscribed. We do have some things in common. I started as an Army Mechanic and became an Army Motor Sergeant and then retired as an Army Chief Warrant Officer with 20 years. That was back in 1995 and know I have been a Fleet Manager for the past 26 years in a Fleet Mangement Company. I do many Executive vehicle leases to include, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, Land Rover, Maserati, Ferrari, Bentley. etc. I agree that all these models normally perform well the first 3 years and 50 thousand miles. I can honestly say I have many problems with most most of these high end models after 5 years and 80,000 miles. Highest repairs incidents are with BMW, Range Rover and Maserati. It is great that you the have the talent, shop and tools to take care of any repair that comes up with your Maserati. Unfortunately with many years of experience having to managing repairs at dealerships with BMW, Land Rover, and Maserati I could not recommend these vehicles with over 80,000 miles to anyone due to high cost of maintenance and reapir at dealerships. Love your channel. Thank-you for your hard work.
it's still a new car, not even 50k miles on the clock. Wait until it's got 100k miles and is 3 or 4 years older. Though I suspect they'll dump it before it starts falling apart.
Exactly, they are being smart here - they bought it after the worst hit of depreciation but before the problems start - they'll move it on before it gets unreliable.
Freezing point of water is 32F, so 39 is completely reasonable little wiggle room to give, in order to take into account the asphalt usually being colder than the air.
People bash a car because they can't afford proper maintenance, then problems start to pile up... and Maseratis (as most imported stuff) are usually more expensive than a local car that sells millions... Even a Civic/Corolla will not last if you don't do the basic maintenance...
I'm glad you've had issue free. My 18 ghibli left me stranded after only one day owning. Parking break actuator would not disengage and left my wheels locked. To this day, I still have not received my car back from shop. That's been since Nov 1. However, very comfortable seats. Fast for a sedan. Sounds/looks AMAZING.
We did 50k miles on our ‘17 Levante. Great car. Three sets of tires and front pads is all. I miss it 😢 Mob mentality for all the hate from folks who have zero experience with brand.
My brother in law has one of these, his is the 2020 model. Same color as this one. He absolutely loves it, any excuse to go anywhere is always accepted. Just like Mrs. Wizards car, his has never had any issues or breakdowns. He has it serviced regularly, and if anything does not look right or feel right, he has it looked at immediately.
I like to see a positive review of an Italian car. It's a beautiful vehicle, but I wonder what it will be like at 100k + miles. Hopefully still fairly reliable
Mrs. Wizard. Please trust that potential ice display as at 39F with the Kansas wind, some places like overpasses will freeze. Always wishing you and you family safe travels. And thanks for this video.
The V6 in the Levante is a 60 degree engine based on the Chrysler Pentastar V6 with an open deck block. The F136 engine in the California T is a 90 degree V8 with a closed deck block. The only thing these two engines have in common is the head design. The Levante V6 is not even "loosely" based on the F136 engine.
is related to the F136 engine. They don't just share the same heads. Not even Maserati or Ferrari would do anything like that or go for something like that.
Not only that, the F136 is a Ferrari-Maserati engine that was first in the 3200 gt that was derived from the engine in the 430. The California T uses the F154, which is a fully fledged Ferrari engine. If you hear the California T, it doesn't sound like a traditional V8, but rather a racing V8. P.S: sorry for the long paragraph just had to put that out there😊
The ice warning depends on the manufacturer, but even at 39 degrees (4 Celsius) the road can be slippery in foggy or damp conditions. My volvo warns at 2 Celsius
I saw the problems as more owners not maintaining them as it is not like a Toyota cost. The 3rd and beyond owners hack or ignore fixing problems. I learned quickly to fix issues before they become failures. It helps you can fix it in your own shop. 😀
I guess you now know how those of us who have had really good experiences with AUDIS feel when you talk about how crappy they are. Audis are very good vehicles I’m on my 6th, and only sell them to get the newest technology. They have all been flawless and I have never had any trouble. My list includes a b5 a4 avant a b5 s4 avant, a b5 rs4 avant in Europe, a first gen all road sold with 250,000 ON THE ORIGINAL TURBOS, a q7 sold with 133,000 miles with no warranty repairs ever, and my new SQ8. the only thing Audis require is REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND PROPER DRIVING. I’m sure the Maserati is similar, and if driven and treated properly they can be very reliable daily drivers, they only fail when they are, as they say in the movies, ridden hard and put away wet. I enjoy your channel but I as you well know ANY CAR CAN BE A POS, it all comes down to how you treat it and MAINTAIN it. Just like horsed you can only beat on them for so long. Thanks for the content!
I bought a 2 year old A4 with 32k miles. I changed the oil every 5k, as I do with all my vehicles. The A4 was a POS once it hit 100k miles, and those were mostly highway miles. German cars over the last 20 years have been mostly junk. Even American cars are more reliable.
Mrs. Wizard. I had a 1984 BMW 533i which had one of the earliest keypad info systems. There would be a ding sound when the temperature hit 37, which was just a warning that freezing weather is approaching, not that the road is frozen.
Love these videos the 39 degree freeze warning takes into consideration extreme wind chill which can actually cause ice to form on things like bridges that are exposed to the wind..
If I were a highly qualified mechanic like yourself, there are many cars I'd love to have, including a Maserati and/or Ferrari. However, I'm unwilling to take on that level of financial risk, so I'll chicken out and get something Japanese. Great video.
I like how simple this car is on the inside. I didn't think a Maserati would be that easy to use on the inside. Yeah I'm 26, but as a somewhat young person I don't like it when a car become too much like my phone. And I lost count of how many times me or my sister almost ran off the road just to turn on the heat because everything in a screen. I'd rather have an older car just because I think it will be more safe to have.
It’s awfully early to deem that it is a reliable car, see how it does in another four to eight years and 50k miles, then we can determine where it’s at.
@@mishaeide1818 Another: Noun; used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further. "How it does in an another 4-8 years and 50k miles." That means 4-8 *more* years and 50K *more* (45+50 = 95k) miles.
I love the Wizard but this video may throw some people off. Someone's gonna see it and say, "well, this guy said Maseratis are reliable", and are going to find a 2012 Quattroporte on a "buy-here-pay-here" lot for $12,500 with 140k and take it home only to find out it's a pos.
First time commenter here. I love a Maserati and especially the Quarto Porte'. Pure passion in steel! Unfortunately I'm not a mechanic and I'm scared to death of maintenance/ repair cost. Therefore I own Toyota's exclusively.
Regarding the ice light: BMWs (as im sure you‘re probably NOT aware of 😂) also give a warning at 3 degrees Celsius. I guess the logic is that there can be patches (for example in shadows or on bridges) that can be icy.
I went to a Ferrari mechanic when I thought of buying a Massarati. He told me that maintance and parts were double a Ferrari. You also just changed the pads, I was told to always change the disk with the pads and expect $1500 per axel. I've owned three full size land rovers so I know what to expect from high end auto but I don't own a shop. I'm glad you're having such great luck with Mrs Wizards car. May the force be with you.
I don't believe that to be very accurate. A lot of the Ferrari costs are clutch replacements and many of them require engine out to get them done. A lot of the Maserati's have automatic transmissions like this Levante with the ZF, and they don't appear to have many issues. Ultimately those cars are exotics and depending on how they are cared for, and can be reasonable to own, or cost a staggering amount of money to service if they are driven hard and neglected.
Gotta love those bashing a master tech that services EVERYTHING on this car...that he owns. The only crazy thing about these is buying brand new as the values absolutely tank(**in not crazy car times like we live right now). The electronics are not those of the old days. The transmissions are rock solid ZFs. The 3.0L turbo six is loosely- based on the California, one of the best to come from Ferrari in terms of daily use. Yes, 45K miles isn't a lot, but ask any BMW V8 or Land Rover owner what can happen by 45K miles.
The resale values are very poor on the Ghibli as they leased them cheap and many people move on after 3 years. The depreciation on a Levante is pretty average compared to any luxury brand out there including Porsche.
I like that it has parts from cheaper cars honestly. I wish alot of BMW’s had Toyota engines. A BMW X5 with a Toyota v8 or v6 would be a lot more desirable car in my opinion. Get all the looks with the reliability as well.
I'm not surprised you've had a rather trouble-free experience. Not only did you buy it virtually new, but you both are also competent car owners. Maseratis gets a bad name for a reason, and while anecdotally your experience might be good - overall the brand is rather terrible when it comes to reliability. This is more of a measure of objectivity with issue reports and JD power measures. I wouldnt call someone an idiot for buying any new car. I would raise an eyebrow if you bought this thing with 100k on the ODO, but I generally expect most vehicles to be trouble-free when you are below 50k. My parents, conversely, had nothing but issues with their Ghibli and they plan on getting rid of it this year. It has about 70k on the ODO.
@Macht Schnell My step father is an ex lexus dealership mechanic. Pretty strict about maintenance. Car is only driven during Summer and Fall, garaged for the winter and spring. Overall pretty well. I believe they're replacing it for an Aston.
Im not one to bash peoples purchases, but i do not like mazeratis just because they dont have the features that mercades or bmw have. And its not like lexus where you can forgive the lack of features due to reliability. Its also a sin to interchange interior pieces with fiat imo
That snowflake dashboard light, or frost warning light is a temperature warning. The snowflake warning light automatically illuminates on the dashboard in yellow/amber when outside temperatures fall close to freezing at around 3°C (37°F) or below. On some vehicles, the warning light may turn red when temperatures fall below 0°C (32°F). Although the warning light will go off when the temperature rises above this threshold of 3°C (37°F) again, there may still be low lying areas of road that may have frost cover, with the possibility of treacherous driving conditions still being prevalent.
The reason for the 39 degrees is that ice doesn't instantly turn back to water the moment the temperature rises above freezing. It takes energy to change it's state. It's called latent heat. So, there can indeed be ice around at 39
I bought a fire escape 2022 gave up my 19 outlander which I was having problems with lots of people gave me crap for it but I’m happy it’s a great car . Nice ride Mrs Wizard
I think peoples complaint with all of these hi end expensive premium cars is that they are not as reliable, durable and long lasting as Toyota Lexus that cost a lot less pre-covid especially. Not a lot of of these types of vehicles on the road as daily drivers 18 years latter with almost no repairs. As the cost of a good goes up it is not unreasonable to expect durability and reliability to go up as well but often it is the opposite! There was a time when for instance Daimler vehicles were easily as reliable and durable as a Toyota or Lexus same thing for Bentley and Rolls Royce. They made a choice in engineering to cheapen the vehicles to the point that they often become money pits 5-6 years into ownership even with low miles! I was a young automotive technician apprentice in Germany 1988-1992 and lived there 1979-1992 and watched things change. When I moved to the USA it seemed to accelerate. I do not think it is the change in technology either because at the price point they charge for these cars and the price of parts the customer should be getting far more life expectancy than they typically get at those prices which is why so many lease instead. I tend to own cars for 18+ years at a time so I am a Toyota car and truck guy.
Same experience here. I have had a GranTurismo for a few years and it’s been a great car. I do the regular service in my garage just like I do on my other cars. Lots of hate comes my way from car people. Especially those with lesser cars. I left my local car FB too from all the hate.
It’s automotive hate bandwagonning. A lot of us car guys are guilty of it. As I’ve gotten older I try to only talk about my personal experiences with particular cars vs word of mouth/internet opinions on cars. I’m glad you guys enjoy the Maserati!
Best comment. So many uninformed people comment on vehicles that they don't even understand. Just because they hear it on the internet, it must be true.🙄
@@hellkitty1014 it's usually the Toyota idiots that do it. Makes me hate their brand that much more. It's like, what the hell do you care if someone's car is allegedly "unreliable?"
@@vw5056 they think that Toyota is infallible. That is not the case. There are plenty of Euro car snobs there look down on some cars and nitpick about interior. But when you consider that a BMW M8 is 40-50k more than a Mustang GT premium, it should be.
Jusy mouthy boy racers who've never driven anything other than their mom's Equinox
@@appleiphone69 Good point. The current Mustang is one sweet car. Basically America's Aston Martin.
Car Wizard hit on a very important bit - take care of your vehicle! That means do the maintenance and service it immediately when necessary. That's been the bane of most 'exotic' vehicles - miss a service interval and issues adds up astronomically. Car Wizard understands the game, so don't hate the player.
Which is why I don't drive anything even remotely 'exotic', I'm broke and can't afford expensive maintenance.
My VW is exotic enough for me haha
Well there is take care of your car . And there is don't drive it in normal winter conditions, which basically what this thing is built for ! If you have a Rav4 on those winter days
You might as well have a Corvette for the other days !
Take care of your Chevy Cruze, it will take care of you. Got it!
Another exotic car issue is not being driven enough.
@@kc510 any vehicle needs to be driven.
FYI: Mrs. Wizard - BMWs & Mercedes display an ice warning at 37 F. Apparently this is because bridges & overpasses freeze sooner at this temperature due to the cold wind passing underneath them and thereby the warning. I would assume Maserati's warning system is doing the same thing just at a slightly higher, more conservative temperature of 39 F.
My Hyundai and Genesis also ding at 39 degrees. It's really annoying. My Volvo had a little orange snowflake light on the dash that would illumanate at 36 F. It was perfect.
@@godblesshamas my 08 jaguar S Type has the orange snowflake too !
My 2001 Jetta does it at 39 and it sometimes makes me jump lol
Here in Europe we have the warning usually in 2 stages. 1. Either at 4°C/2°C (39°F/36°F) depending on the manufacturer and 2. At 0°C (32°F).
The reason for the 1. as far as I know is that if the air temperature is at that level there could be very well be parts of the road that are colder than that (e.g. a road which runs alongside a forest or between som higher buildings where the sun doesn't touch the ground)
My Golf also gives a little ping when the temp drops below 4 degrees C (39 degrees F). It's a perfectly sensible reminder, as a lot of people don't consider the fact that bridges etc can get slippery long before the rest of the road does. Curiously, it'll also give me a reminder when the temp rises above -5 degrees C (23 degrees F).
I admittedly had the same assumptions about Maseratis until I spent some time as a Maserati technician. That twin turbo v6 has become one of my favorite engines, and they're very reliable. Those cars only really have a few common issues. They're cars that you can't judge by the numbers, because by the numbers they're not as good as their German counterparts, but Maserati is one of the only companies that still offers that old school, super tactile driving feel that you just can't get in modern cars, and for that reason I'd drive one over a BMW or Mercedes any day. Also, just an FYI, the ICE button actually stands for Increased Comfort and Efficiency rather than being a winter driving mode, kinda confusing.
I never would have guessed that. Thanks for the information. Increased Comfort and Efficiency ICE
Not as good as Germans. If it's not almost Toyota reliable it's junk
Bull shit 🖕🏻
@@toyota420xp The range in quality between the worst cars and best cars is measured in problems per 100 cars. The range is pretty narrow, from like 50 per 100 to 200 problem per 100 cars. Most cars will do pretty well if they are taken care of.
@@toyota420xp Except Toyota isn't the "most reliable" anymore. How do you even measure something like that? Reliable means can be relied upon to not leave you stranded. Most new cars fit that description even if they might have some issues.
I mean I’d hope an ‘18 with 40k miles is reliable 😅 it’d be interesting to see what it’s like in 5 more years
I should clarify that I love Maseratis, but still
Thats what im thinking.
At about 5 years it will become a money pit.
@@markkrispin6944 Not if you take care of it and follow the service intervalls and use high quality fluids and filter.
Yeah. That's what everyone cares about. Not trying agree with internet trolls. But I am sure they are crap after 6+ years. Or requires too much maintenance
7:05 when the car measures around 39 deg with its sensor, it assumes lower temperature on the ground, which usually is the case
Especially on bridges which ice up first.
@@cvr24 Also, ice already on a cold road surface will often not melt again until the ambient temperature goes above 37-39.
Ice warning at 3 degrees C is normal on a lot of cars.
I had a Maserati as a loaner from our local Maserati/Mercedes dealer when my Mercedes was in the shop and they were out of Mercedes loaners (hmmmmmm????). I loved it. I’ve been looking at them ever since. Beautiful SUV, I hope you enjoy it for years to come.
If this SUV pulled beside me at a stop light, I'd bet money it was a Buick with those 3 chrome circles on the front panels. It's not an overly impressive car to me...cookie cutter SUV styling.
They needed something more reliable than their Mercedes loaner cars
@@captinbeyond You'd lose your bet it seems..😉
As someone who currently own both a Ghibli and Levante, I can say that they both have been reliable. The levante in particular has an amazing ride, great build quality, and is super comfortable. Of all of the eurpoean cars I have/haved owned, it is one of my favorites!
That air suspension looks just like the Grand Cherokees. Also, that ZF trans is the best transmission sold today. Amazing piece of engineering.
6:55 The warning at the 39F or 4 Celsius is OK. It is meant for the winter time for the shadow parts of the road namely despite 39F/4 C outside those parts of the road may have a black ice .
My 20 year old Mondeo does the same. It’s a good feature
It’s the same for VWs.
The 2018 Maserati Levante is still in great shape. Mrs. Wizard has been taking care of the vehicle lately.
Are there any years that we should avoid? I love the Levante, but the misses also heard about reliability issues. The closest Maserati dealership to me is two hours away in Orlando. 😔
I owned a Bi Turbo Ghibli for 4 years not a single problem loved it. The people who hate them and have an opinion have usually never even driven one.
you just described a large portion of the Pseudo car enthusiasts
I'm impressed that you can replace the plug and coil packs without removing the intake manifold.
Pretty normal on OHC V engines where the intake will be between the V leaving the top of the cam covers clear. Inline engines they often bring the intake manifold across the top of the engine which can make it a pain to replace them.
To be fair any newer car would be a catastrophe if they failed under 50k miles.
Sadly there's a lot of modern cars that seem to be a complete failure by 50k, and a lot of older Maserati's are known for that. Time will tell what this will do but so far so good and if something does happen she's married to the right person to fix it.
Yeah. And these failures are sadly pretty usual with modern day Bmw/Mercedes/Volvo.
During the last three years My family have had experiences with Volvo V90 Cc front shocks being shot in less than 40k kilometres and having a slight oil leak on the exhaust manifold at 70k. Also 2017 7-series bmw with egr and map-sensor issues at 60k kilometres and 2017 Mercedes Benz E-series having bad front end ball joints at 100k kms.
Also a delivery mileage Volvo xc40 with CEL within a week. My friend’s MY2019 Volvo V90 has already been treated with new door locks in every door, new sim card reader and new engine mounts, all within 60k kilometres and warranty time.
All the car manufacturers cut costs and corners (such as proper QA) these days and you eventually end up having issues. Therefore I suggest that you rather choose a car you really like rather than a car with ”heritage”. This way you are not questioning your car choice when the unevitable happens 😁 and sometimes you can be surprised pleasantly when the underdog is dead reliable.
@@Wunderbaumsporting you could say the same thing about most modern GM vehicles the exception being the trucks. At least for now they're not too bad considering what your options are anyway. Every manufacturer these days seems to cut corners in quality and then charge a fortune for their product, almost a second mortgage to buy a brand new car anymore...
Well they newer Mercedes have had catastrophic engine issues
@@jhomrich89 The exception of GM trucks doesn’t even apply anymore sadly with lifter failures on V8 engines happening before 8,500 miles. Keep in mind these are brand new models not even 1 year old.
I would say in my experience 85% of any issues/lights that come on in a Maserati are solved by a good hard drive. Most issues are from letting them sit.... like almost any fun vehicle.
I would say 85% of issues with Maserati are solved by buying them new or near new and then selling them before they get to 5 to 10 years old. Lovely cars to own from new, terrible cars to own as the 3rd or 4th owner.
@@Beer_Dad1975car wizard AND hoovie are providing you wrong babe.
I owned five Alfa Romeos in the UK varying from brand new to fourteen years old. In twenty years I had one breakdown on a seventeen year old car. I had a few electrical glitches, but guess what, the faulty parts were all Bosch components. Provided you keep up with maintainance Italian cars are fine and much more enjoyable to own than most. I love your Levante and if my lottery numbers come up I'l be straight off to buy one, or a Ghibli maybe 👍....or both 😁
Still waiting to hear about your lottery numbers 😅
You know what, you gotta admit when you learn something new, glad to see a good mechanic say that these cars are somewhat okay. Awesome content as always
I’m so glad you are having a wonderful experience with your Maserati. Great choice! Thanks for letting us tour your car, Mrs. Wizard.
Thank you for being a person to make honest reviews by experiencing Maserati compared to automatically bashing them due to other people incompetence.
I admit I always thought Mazarati was a very unreliable brand. However, I would never insult someone based on their choice of car. That's utterly childish. That said, this one is still pretty new and the Wizard can fix anything that comes up, so the worst case scenario for Ms. Wizard is a lot better than it would be for most people.
They are,
But only because it's a premium sports car brand, and you aren't expected to drive them everyday, but you are expected to maintain them properly
Things like is one are more mainstream, and based on mass produced products, therefore expected to put up with more abuse.
I would be more worried about the cheap Chrysler rubbish in it, than the Maserati bits.
@@kevinshort3943 haha I know right, people concerned about the Maserati DNA in this car but it's dad (Chrysler) ain't got good genes either haha these poor cars were just doomed from birth.
Yeah look at somebody who lifts a F-150 and puts giant wheels on it and it happens to be a 5.4 l 3 valve Triton and then tell me it's childish
Their history does not disprove your previous thoughts but they are wonderful cars and fine works are often fragile but yet the owners still keep them and love them which shows you just how good they are. Obviously recently they aren’t plagued with issues like their old cars were just the same sort of things that plague most new cars. Electrical gremlins on the occasional car, however they’re much much more reliable than Tesla’s and people aren’t slandered for owning those
@@kevinshort3943 We used to own a Maserati in the UK, always perfectly behaved, never let us down and was always serviced as stipulated by the manufacturer. Starting it would cause the hair on the back of your neck to stand up and the 50 - 70 mph acceleration - overtaking manoeuvre - was breathtaking. Ignore the bemoaners, childish jealousy.
The Italians' cars have improved an awful lot, it's been a long time since they were reliability basket cases. And watching Iain Tyrrel's channel I'm getting a new respect for the mechanical engineering in old Lambos (apart from the rust!); fine if looked after well, and some clever ideas.
Long time ? They were trash at least until 2016 I don’t know about after that
Ghibli is terrible. LOL. That the damn Alfa's.
@@bigbangbobby Yeah, such "trash" that Fiat has the most European car of the year awards, top 10 manufacturer, and Italian cars are the most sought after of any country and been in business over a century.
All Germans are JUNK, except for Porsche.
@Nabor Simbor That's no guarantee of quality. Even Boeing claims to have an Andon, Kanban system on their assembly lines, but thats not helped at all. Quality starts with the attitude of the Chairman/woman, and descends down from that. Andon, etc are all things one does to deliver on that attitude, and they're all things that cannot exist without the support of the very top of the company.
Kanban is itself more of an efficiency thing than a quality tool, though the two are related: it's all part of saying money doesn't matter as much as quality.
So Italian cars have improved because the senior management wanted them to.
Drive what you like. You know what the benefits and risks are with owning that SUV. Enjoy what you have and who cares what others think. The other day the wife and I were in a auto parts store buying new wiper blades when the clerk started bashing our cars (the sc430 the wizard fixed up and a Lincoln Continental BL).
And the same clerk is probably driving a 25 year old car that barely runs with parts falling off. A lot of the criticism out there is some strange hatred for cars those people have never owned, never driven and will never afford in their lifetime. It is beyond bizarre to spend that much time and effort on hating something you will never own.
I'm glad that you're showing people through experience that these cars are quite good to drive an own. They were negatively perceived due to their association to FCA and some parts bin sharing. I find from personal experience that the biggest haters are German car fan boys where as people driving Alfa Romeo jaguar Volvo and American seem to be more open minded
Yes . It's true. The German car fanboys are usually the biggest idiots. They are quite happy to tolerate massive oil leaks everywhere, cracked flimsy plastic used all over the engine, and expensive never ending repair bills.
I feel the same in my local cars and coffee Facebook group because I happen to own an Abarth 500. It’s not even my main car and usually people who know jack about cars (they usually drive clapped out Nissans) get so triggered that I happen to occasionally drive a fiat. It’s lightly modded/tuned, has over 130k miles and has been the most fun car I’ve ever owned and trouble free.
Great video wizard. Glad to see you dispelling all the reliability rumors. Have 72k on my 17 Levante SQ4 and 68k on my 15 quattroporte sq4 and neither have had any issues.
We have the 17 SQ4 too and it's a blast to drive! Hydraulic steering is a great feel in a modern car
The ice warning is due to wet bulb temperature. Freezing can occur well above 32 degrees F "dry bulb." The temperature we read on normal thermometers is the dry bulb temperature. The wet bulb temperature is a function of dry bulb temperature and relative humidity. At lower humidity freezing can occur at higher dry bulb temps. That's why you can have snow/sleet/graupel precipitation when the apparent ambient temperature is greater than 32F.
39 degrees is about right for an ice warning. Actually, it might be around that temp that you most need a warning, because you could be in for a rude awakening going over a bridge or driving through a cold spot.
I love the love for the Levante. I sat in one and fired it up and it is definitely on my "to get" list.
All european cars have the warning starting at 39F or 3C degrees that possible ice on the road. I have a french car and same thing and had an Alfa from 2005 and at 3C degrees it would show as a warning. It's not an issue, it's a normal thing.
Most cars give a warning from 4C and lower
pretty sure ive even had my corolla go off around that range too
Makes sense, especially on bridges, you might get black ice,
it's normal, air temperature is not ground temperature, usually if it's 3C degrees outside, the ground can be 0C degrees, which means can be icey.
Thank you for dispelling the rumors. I have an Alfa Romeo, Giulia Quad and I’ve had it for five years. Nothing has gone wrong other than wear and tear. People get hung up on Toyota and Honda reliability but those cars don’t offer anything in terms of emotion and I say that because I also own a Honda. I’m considering a Ghibli when my old Volvo dies.
My 1988 BMW 750iL also has this ice warning feature (mine triggers it at 37 degrees Fahrenheit). It's a safety feature. The 32 degrees is not an absolute fixed temperature. Lots of variables, including wind chill factor, presence of oil in the water or other chemicals such as salt, oil, etc. The warning is meant to make the driver aware of black ice (ice mixed with oil patches) on the road. Better to be safe than sorry.
Lucky bastard. I would so love to own a V12 E32.
@@vw5056 Careful what you wish for. It's a bit of a mixed bag. I love the V12, the performance and smoothness of this one of a kind engine. Downside, it's a pain in the ass to work on and the parts are a bit of a challenge to get for this engine which has been out of production for 27 years. The rear self leveling suspension is prone to leaking and the rear shocks and control regulator are no longer made or supported by BMW. Overall I love it and wouldn't trade it for the world. It's not for everyone and deserves a certain kind of owner to remain loyal to it. Thanks for the reply. You can't put a price on love.
Mine is a rare low-option car: no traction control, no electronic shocks, no rear seat heating. Has leather steering, power front heated seats and all other standard options.
Have had a Gran Turismo for 3 years… zero issues outside of the general maintenance & the V8 sounded incredible stock on sport mode. Have a Quattroporte now and same no issues in 2 years. Looking at a 2017-2019 Levante as my Benz has been less reliable that expected.
We are on our second Ghibli and my wife loves it. We have never had any issues with either one. It runs and rides fantastically.
Second? A oke what was wrong with the first one?
@@themenbehindyourcamera5550 most likely a lease or if lease prices was high bought it did a 5 year loan and trade in and pay basically the same and put more mileage as if it was a lease
We traded the older one on an Escalade and the wife hated it. We traded the Escalade in on the new one. My wife loves the size and ride. She will be like the wizard's wife and keep this one for a long time.
@@nosetdirection Toyota morons always have to exert their ignorance and anger.
I thought the Ghibli was terrible? Maybe daddy Doug is wrong.
I mean 2 years ago, I saw a 15 ram already rusting out. I saw a 2020 ram with screws under the carpet just left there. Still with the dealership sticker on it.
About 1990, I towed a Maserati into the shop on a sling style tow truck. Boss lady about had a stroke. It had slid off the road in a snow storm. The owner was afraid somebody else would slide off in the same spot and make things worse. The only thing I could see that would be damaged by the sling was the A/C condenser, it was already trashed. He was right, I pulled two cars out of the same spot later, they would have hit the Maserati.
I have a 2019 Levante S. I LOVE IT!! So sexy and a total head turner. The only issue I have has has been tires. I went through the continentals in 3 months!!! It's my every day car and I use it for carpool so I am not driving super fast. I then put Pirelli tires on it, also had to be changed fairly soon. I have researched and this seems to be an issue across the board.
this one is very informative..... I have always been told that Maserati's have awesome visual presence but have the reliability of a lemon.... then again, they say BMW's have no reliability either.... but since I do my oil changes every 5 000 miles.... I still have no issues at 65 000 miles either.....
Exactly. I find it funny his feelings were hurt over the Maserati comments considering his constant hatred of BMWs. I know plenty of people with great BMW experiences too. 11+ years here with mine. It’s a great car.
Big believer in the magic of depreciation that is late to seeing this. Thanks very much, I'm adding the Levante to my target list! Don't apologize for the Michelins, I run Pilot Sport A/S 4s and they are unbelievable. The ice warning thing is funny, BMW kicks one out at +37F. The Chrysler based infotainment system is no bummer either, I've quite liked uConnect in the rentals I've had.
FYI Wizard, the Jeep Grand Cherokee also has an air suspension. I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same one as your Maserati since they're both FCA vehicles. And I wouldn't be afraid to drive the Jeep in bad weather either.
I've got a 2012 GranTurismo MC and I love it. No lights on the dash.
Hows it holding up now?
I believe ICE mode is “increased control & efficiency”. Shifts earlier etc.. You can increase fuel economy, comfort, and engine noise using it.
Those portholes on the fenders make it look like a Buick.
When I first became a Maserati tech I thought they were going to be complex, unreliable turds. After the first year I realized that if the maintenance is actually kept up with, which many people like to ignore, they're actually great cars. One thing I can say is, being from NYC, they are definitely not meant for those NYC roads 😂
Yeah, I am sure the potholed roads there eat up the complex finely tuned suspensions of any performance oriented car.
Why would you want a fancy car like that for horrible roads in NYC where you can’t legally drive over 55 mph? Seems like a huge waste of money.
We have the roads of a third world country here in the tristate area.
@@mongo64071 There are some great roads not too far away from NYC. Parts of the Catskill mountains can look a bit like European country roads - they have curvey sweepers with lakes on either side of them. There are also a handful of amazing technical roads in North Jersey.
I actually think the most pointless place to own a car like this is South Florida, as every single road is straight unless you drive hundreds of miles away.
@@mongo64071
Because people have other reasons for liking cars, not just how fast youre allowed to drive
Road is colder than the sensor positioning on the car.
Plus there might be ice from a sub-zero night/morning that is getting warmer, but ice is not fully melted
Mrs. Wizard, we had black ice at 37°F over here in Washington state about a month ago. I was shocked that it was somehow icy at that warm of a temp but people were crashing everywhere (including myself lol)
I just got a Maserati Levante today and I’m really excited. I think it was a great purchase and I love it.
For being a relatively new vehicle, the engine bay doesn't look intimidating.
New cars are surprisingly easy to work on in my opinion. I'm no pro and I've pretty much exclusively worked on modern, computerized cars, so I can't compare to how they are to older vehicles, but to me, a car is a car, and a bolt is a bolt. Of course you will run into some problems if you need to program computer stuff or something.
No kidding, especially for an Italian car. I've seen some Fords that look like an electrical monstrosity compared to this.
Funny you say that. I was thinking the same thing.
Just a little thing, if the bay would be cleaned.., it should be more pleasant... I was used to work on airplanes and we are not used to dust on engines...! But, maybe I'm a little manic..!!
@@jaybeemhardscrote7466 It's how many parts you have to remove to access another part, and the ease of getting at them. I think one of the things Car Wizard has highlighted is that BMW and to a certain extent Mercedes make it difficult for no good reason, and he finds the Maserati under bonnet refreshingly "honest" in its presentation of components. I find modern cars hideously complicated compared to my Alfa V6.. which was considered complicated 25 years ago. It now looks refreshingly straightforward in so many ways ( Modern Alfas don't escape criticism though, but they are no better nor worse than most current offerings from any manufacturer).
Mine has over 50k miles and still run smooth no major issues other than the standard wear n tear. I only use it for business and don’t go over 10k miles per year
I have a Red Gran Turismo MC Stradale, I love it. It's the perfect pairing with my Murciélago. Amazing and smooth shifting, great sound of the xpipe exhaust. Great grand tourer I take up and down PCH. They're under appreciated cars, people forget they're designed by pininfarina , who designed Ferraris up until the F8 tributo.
Those Gran Turismos sound sooo good.
I love the sound of Maserati's. It is so beautiful singing at higher rpms. My favorite is Quattroporte.
Pininfarina hasn't desing a Ferrari for many more years. I think even the 360 was designed in house.
@@comeberza they designed the F12, 458, FF and California
@@TheEliteAnthem true, but not the 488
I’m glad to hear someone talk positive about Maserati, everyone seems to be so negative for the Italian brand.
They are crap
My 2019 Alfa Romeo has been nothing but a headache.
My girlfriend’s best friend has one and it lives at the dealership 👨🏽🔧
My Alfa has been perfect - apart from a dead battery, which died the day after it's service.
What kind of issues have you had?
@@Wunderbaumsporting miss fire codes chronic, infotainment screen restarts, and air dam warning
My STELVIO QUADRIFOGLIO HAS ALREADY 61k on it without any major issues, best car I have ever owned.
if you look up reviews on the f160 v6 they are proven motors with very few issues! the ford Eco boost actually has more issues that cause catastrophic engine failure like fasser and chain failures.... and turbo failures at under 50k miles. every car maker now days all use the same parts they are ALL built with Chinese pieces.
4 years old and less than 50k miles seems a bit early to claim great reliability
80k for a glorified grocery-getter. Higher insurance and for the 99.9% of people who do not own their own garage, higher service and repair costs. I’m glad I never cared what people thought of my “car status” in the parking lot of the Cheesecake Factory and spent my money sensibly.
When I had a 2016 Lexus NX200t in my shop recently for total nonfunction of the screen and audio system, I found the Audio module is $6600. My opinion of many brands changed. That same equivalent part is cheaper for several much more expensive brands. Lexus fell off their pedestal quickly.
Price out catalytic converters for 2007 LS460. They are more than for a 7 Series of similar vintage.
BTW, did the owner pay for the new module or decline the repair?
Sounds like a Mark Levinson amp. Just re-read the screen was non-responsive. Electronics go bad. How many Electronics come DOA?
Just because toyota owns lexus doesnt mean lexus parts are gonna always be cheap. It's still a luxury car at the end of a day which means you have to keep an eye out for premium costs.
The Car Wizards has the coolest walk on TH-cam! I'd love to see a continuous loop video of him just waddling around on his stubby little legs with Pantera's WALK as the background music!
Best car i've ever owned had a 2016 3.0v6 had it nearly 150'000 km had only preventive maintence (exept of once the aircompressor for the suspension got wrong at 135'000 km but Maserati had covered it for free even after warranty expired). Got it back to the dealer after leasing, to ordering a 2022 model. Can't wait to get it delivered, before i've had a Mercedes ML this thing was absolute junk in comparison. 3-4 times a year at the shop, no mercedes ever again for me.
As a long-time trucker, I can assure you that black ice can form at temperatures well above freezing due to the ground staying cold. This is especially true on bridges and overpasses. Love that Maserati interior.
The ice message that comes up on the dash is totally normal when it's cold outside. I work at a Toyota dealership and the new ones do that all the time as well.
Ours comes on on a 2017 Camry at 37F..I think..
@@bdpopeye yep that’s about right!
Yes my 2015 forester does the same but at 32 or below temp.
Hi Car Wizard and Mrs. Wizard, I follow your Channel and am subscribed.
We do have some things in common. I started as an Army Mechanic and became an Army Motor Sergeant and then retired as an Army Chief Warrant Officer with 20 years. That was back in 1995 and know I have been a Fleet Manager for the past 26 years in a Fleet Mangement Company. I do many Executive vehicle leases to include, BMW, Mercedes, Porsche, Audi, Land Rover, Maserati, Ferrari, Bentley. etc. I agree that all these models normally perform well the first 3 years and 50 thousand miles. I can honestly say I have many problems with most most of these high end models after 5 years and 80,000 miles. Highest repairs incidents are with BMW, Range Rover and Maserati. It is great that you the have the talent, shop and tools to take care of any repair that comes up with your Maserati. Unfortunately with many years of experience having to managing repairs at dealerships with BMW, Land Rover, and Maserati I could not recommend these vehicles with over 80,000 miles to anyone due to high cost of maintenance and reapir at dealerships. Love your channel. Thank-you for your hard work.
Love it but the steering wheel is fading already!?
Love the two tone interior colors. Red and black look great together. Video Bob is a very entertaining guy!! Love his channel.
it's still a new car, not even 50k miles on the clock. Wait until it's got 100k miles and is 3 or 4 years older. Though I suspect they'll dump it before it starts falling apart.
Exactly, they are being smart here - they bought it after the worst hit of depreciation but before the problems start - they'll move it on before it gets unreliable.
Freezing point of water is 32F, so 39 is completely reasonable little wiggle room to give, in order to take into account the asphalt usually being colder than the air.
Maserati owners are your best customers lol!
He said a lot without saying it 😊😂
You did the right thing Mr. Wizard. When it comes to cars and trucks to each their own when it comes to choosing what someone drives.
People bash a car because they can't afford proper maintenance, then problems start to pile up... and Maseratis (as most imported stuff) are usually more expensive than a local car that sells millions...
Even a Civic/Corolla will not last if you don't do the basic maintenance...
I'm glad you've had issue free. My 18 ghibli left me stranded after only one day owning. Parking break actuator would not disengage and left my wheels locked. To this day, I still have not received my car back from shop. That's been since Nov 1.
However, very comfortable seats. Fast for a sedan. Sounds/looks AMAZING.
We did 50k miles on our ‘17 Levante. Great car. Three sets of tires and front pads is all. I miss it 😢
Mob mentality for all the hate from folks who have zero experience with brand.
Same with people against Alfa Romeo.
It's a shame, most of these cars share engines and parts with their other FCA counterparts.
My brother in law has one of these, his is the 2020 model. Same color as this one. He absolutely loves it, any excuse to go anywhere is always accepted. Just like Mrs. Wizards car, his has never had any issues or breakdowns. He has it serviced regularly, and if anything does not look right or feel right, he has it looked at immediately.
I like to see a positive review of an Italian car. It's a beautiful vehicle, but I wonder what it will be like at 100k + miles. Hopefully still fairly reliable
Mrs. Wizard. Please trust that potential ice display as at 39F with the Kansas wind, some places like overpasses will freeze. Always wishing you and you family safe travels. And thanks for this video.
The V6 in the Levante is a 60 degree engine based on the Chrysler Pentastar V6 with an open deck block. The F136 engine in the California T is a 90 degree V8 with a closed deck block. The only thing these two engines have in common is the head design. The Levante V6 is not even "loosely" based on the F136 engine.
I think the Alfa Giulia Quadrifoglio engine is closely related to that Ferrari engine.
Not just that. It's really everything in the F160 engine except the engine block
is related to the F136 engine. They don't just share the same heads. Not even Maserati or Ferrari would do anything like that or go for something like that.
Plus, it's not even related to the F136 in the California T Levante etc. It's related to the F154.
Not only that, the F136 is a Ferrari-Maserati engine that was first in the 3200 gt that was derived from the engine in the 430. The California T uses the F154, which is a fully fledged Ferrari engine. If you hear the California T, it doesn't sound like a traditional V8, but rather a racing V8.
P.S: sorry for the long paragraph just had to put that out there😊
The ice warning depends on the manufacturer, but even at 39 degrees (4 Celsius) the road can be slippery in foggy or damp conditions. My volvo warns at 2 Celsius
my vw warns at 4° haha
I saw the problems as more owners not maintaining them as it is not like a Toyota cost. The 3rd and beyond owners hack or ignore fixing problems. I learned quickly to fix issues before they become failures.
It helps you can fix it in your own shop. 😀
I have one Levante customer. Love that car.
I guess you now know how those of us who have had really good experiences with AUDIS feel when you talk about how crappy they are. Audis are very good vehicles I’m on my 6th, and only sell them to get the newest technology. They have all been flawless and I have never had any trouble. My list includes a b5 a4 avant a b5 s4 avant, a b5 rs4 avant in Europe, a first gen all road sold with 250,000 ON THE ORIGINAL TURBOS, a q7 sold with 133,000 miles with no warranty repairs ever, and my new SQ8. the only thing Audis require is REGULAR MAINTENANCE AND PROPER DRIVING. I’m sure the Maserati is similar, and if driven and treated properly they can be very reliable daily drivers, they only fail when they are, as they say in the movies, ridden hard and put away wet. I enjoy your channel but I as you well know ANY CAR CAN BE A POS, it all comes down to how you treat it and MAINTAIN it. Just like horsed you can only beat on them for so long. Thanks for the content!
I bought a 2 year old A4 with 32k miles. I changed the oil every 5k, as I do with all my vehicles. The A4 was a POS once it hit 100k miles, and those were mostly highway miles. German cars over the last 20 years have been mostly junk. Even American cars are more reliable.
Mrs. Wizard. I had a 1984 BMW 533i which had one of the earliest keypad info systems. There would be a ding sound when the temperature hit 37, which was just a warning that freezing weather is approaching, not that the road is frozen.
LOL its a 2018, I'd expect it not to have issues xD
Love these videos the 39 degree freeze warning takes into consideration extreme wind chill which can actually cause ice to form on things like bridges that are exposed to the wind..
If I were a highly qualified mechanic like yourself, there are many cars I'd love to have, including a Maserati and/or Ferrari. However, I'm unwilling to take on that level of financial risk, so I'll chicken out and get something Japanese. Great video.
Japanese 😂
I like how simple this car is on the inside. I didn't think a Maserati would be that easy to use on the inside. Yeah I'm 26, but as a somewhat young person I don't like it when a car become too much like my phone. And I lost count of how many times me or my sister almost ran off the road just to turn on the heat because everything in a screen. I'd rather have an older car just because I think it will be more safe to have.
It’s awfully early to deem that it is a reliable car, see how it does in another four to eight years and 50k miles, then we can determine where it’s at.
He's being biased because he owns one.
In 8 years a poor guy will buy it wont have money to mantain it correctly and say the car isnt reliable
45k miles on it. Highly doubt something will happen in 5k miles
@@mishaeide1818 Another: Noun; used to refer to an additional person or thing of the same type as one already mentioned or known about; one more; a further.
"How it does in an another 4-8 years and 50k miles."
That means 4-8 *more* years and 50K *more* (45+50 = 95k) miles.
I love the Wizard but this video may throw some people off. Someone's gonna see it and say, "well, this guy said Maseratis are reliable", and are going to find a 2012 Quattroporte on a "buy-here-pay-here" lot for $12,500 with 140k and take it home only to find out it's a pos.
First time commenter here.
I love a Maserati and especially the Quarto Porte'. Pure passion in steel!
Unfortunately I'm not a mechanic and I'm scared to death of maintenance/ repair cost. Therefore I own Toyota's exclusively.
The car's still relatively new. I'm guessing you won't keep it until 300k miles.
Regarding the ice light: BMWs (as im sure you‘re probably NOT aware of 😂) also give a warning at 3 degrees Celsius. I guess the logic is that there can be patches (for example in shadows or on bridges) that can be icy.
Man only way my wife ever getting anything like that Maserati is..... Wait what am I saying that woman fuckin hits parked cars no way in hell!
I went to a Ferrari mechanic when I thought of buying a Massarati. He told me that maintance and parts were double a Ferrari. You also just changed the pads, I was told to always change the disk with the pads and expect $1500 per axel. I've owned three full size land rovers so I know what to expect from high end auto but I don't own a shop. I'm glad you're having such great luck with Mrs Wizards car. May the force be with you.
I don't believe that to be very accurate. A lot of the Ferrari costs are clutch replacements and many of them require engine out to get them done. A lot of the Maserati's have automatic transmissions like this Levante with the ZF, and they don't appear to have many issues.
Ultimately those cars are exotics and depending on how they are cared for, and can be reasonable to own, or cost a staggering amount of money to service if they are driven hard and neglected.
I was really surprised he didn't change the rotors too
Gotta love those bashing a master tech that services EVERYTHING on this car...that he owns. The only crazy thing about these is buying brand new as the values absolutely tank(**in not crazy car times like we live right now). The electronics are not those of the old days. The transmissions are rock solid ZFs. The 3.0L turbo six is loosely- based on the California, one of the best to come from Ferrari in terms of daily use.
Yes, 45K miles isn't a lot, but ask any BMW V8 or Land Rover owner what can happen by 45K miles.
The resale values are very poor on the Ghibli as they leased them cheap and many people move on after 3 years. The depreciation on a Levante is pretty average compared to any luxury brand out there including Porsche.
@@redbaron6805 agreed. The Trofeo models are bringing in well over MSRP right now.
This is honestly my favorite car I've seen on this channel
I like that it has parts from cheaper cars honestly. I wish alot of BMW’s had Toyota engines. A BMW X5 with a Toyota v8 or v6 would be a lot more desirable car in my opinion. Get all the looks with the reliability as well.
Not when you spend the type of money for a new one you won’t LOL
No just get a Toyota at that point lol. BMW just needs to make their stuff more reliable and better.
Ain't it...
I get it but I wouldn't exactly equate Toyota parts with Dodge parts.
The infotainment is from Chrysler and works about the same as in one its a good system considered one of the best
Was nice to see somebody not completely bash this car. I’m looking at one right now up in Daytona.
I'm not surprised you've had a rather trouble-free experience. Not only did you buy it virtually new, but you both are also competent car owners.
Maseratis gets a bad name for a reason, and while anecdotally your experience might be good - overall the brand is rather terrible when it comes to reliability. This is more of a measure of objectivity with issue reports and JD power measures.
I wouldnt call someone an idiot for buying any new car. I would raise an eyebrow if you bought this thing with 100k on the ODO, but I generally expect most vehicles to be trouble-free when you are below 50k.
My parents, conversely, had nothing but issues with their Ghibli and they plan on getting rid of it this year. It has about 70k on the ODO.
So tell us, how well do they take care of it?
@Macht Schnell My step father is an ex lexus dealership mechanic. Pretty strict about maintenance. Car is only driven during Summer and Fall, garaged for the winter and spring.
Overall pretty well. I believe they're replacing it for an Aston.
JD Power is known for getting paid off
I forgot about this car. And that's a complement. Like you said the car had zero problems.
Im not one to bash peoples purchases, but i do not like mazeratis just because they dont have the features that mercades or bmw have. And its not like lexus where you can forgive the lack of features due to reliability. Its also a sin to interchange interior pieces with fiat imo
That snowflake dashboard light, or frost warning light is a temperature warning. The snowflake warning light automatically illuminates on the dashboard in yellow/amber when outside temperatures fall close to freezing at around 3°C (37°F) or below.
On some vehicles, the warning light may turn red when temperatures fall below 0°C (32°F).
Although the warning light will go off when the temperature rises above this threshold of 3°C (37°F) again, there may still be low lying areas of road that may have frost cover, with the possibility of treacherous driving conditions still being prevalent.
The reason for the 39 degrees is that ice doesn't instantly turn back to water the moment the temperature rises above freezing. It takes energy to change it's state. It's called latent heat. So, there can indeed be ice around at 39
Especially on over passes
@@WhittyPics Not really. It's just physics.
I bought a fire escape 2022 gave up my 19 outlander which I was having problems with lots of people gave me crap for it but I’m happy it’s a great car . Nice ride Mrs Wizard
I think peoples complaint with all of these hi end expensive premium cars is that they are not as reliable, durable and long lasting as Toyota Lexus that cost a lot less pre-covid especially. Not a lot of of these types of vehicles on the road as daily drivers 18 years latter with almost no repairs. As the cost of a good goes up it is not unreasonable to expect durability and reliability to go up as well but often it is the opposite! There was a time when for instance Daimler vehicles were easily as reliable and durable as a Toyota or Lexus same thing for Bentley and Rolls Royce. They made a choice in engineering to cheapen the vehicles to the point that they often become money pits 5-6 years into ownership even with low miles! I was a young automotive technician apprentice in Germany 1988-1992 and lived there 1979-1992 and watched things change. When I moved to the USA it seemed to accelerate. I do not think it is the change in technology either because at the price point they charge for these cars and the price of parts the customer should be getting far more life expectancy than they typically get at those prices which is why so many lease instead. I tend to own cars for 18+ years at a time so I am a Toyota car and truck guy.
Same experience here. I have had a GranTurismo for a few years and it’s been a great car. I do the regular service in my garage just like I do on my other cars. Lots of hate comes my way from car people. Especially those with lesser cars. I left my local car FB too from all the hate.