This sonata is outstanding indeed,, and evidences the beginning of influences from Stravisky and abova all Webern. It is quite interting for its tone and the perfetc share betwwen the saxophone and piano. But later on, Denisov will go much further, and some of his rythms are even much more complex than Webern's. He seems to pave the way to Ferneyhough. In my opinion, Gubaidulina and Schnittke were very courageaus and inventive composers, but Denisov is much more strict. He should deserve at least as much fame as these two collegues.
I mean, from the perspective of music people hear, sure, but you can say that about nearly every piece in the saxophone "classical" repertoire. If you're a person studying saxophone literature in or beyond college you know of this piece. It's a standard.
Two instruments are competing, hardly ever making a collective statement. Thus we can clearly see it as a composers strong, even though veiled, protest against forceful collectivization and Stalin agrarian policy in the soviet countryside.
I don't know how you can imagine all that from this music of a piano and a sax? You are projecting your own politics on to this composer. That's rather comical actually...
@@tonylogan4092 Ikr ? it's really puzzling why westerners have to make every piece by every composer from the USSR about how Stalin ate human babies or something .
@@tonylogan4092 I mean, that's the point, his/her/their comment seems so steretyped that I'm willing to bet intentionally mocking people doing that kind of analysis.
@@antoningilbert1615 So, you understood my joke. Alas, a lot Americans are so hard wired on Russian that they see "political" statement in any piece of music, in any instruments, I know such people, strange, some are rather educated.
"Piercing" to me has more to do with the timbre of the alto saxophone than the particular character of this piece, which just so happens to use the full range of the instrument
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I have never liked this piece, but you have to respect the absolute insane amount of control the performers have.
0:06 - I. Allegro
3:31 - II. Lento
7:36 - III. Allegro moderato
This sonata is outstanding indeed,, and evidences the beginning of influences from Stravisky and abova all Webern. It is quite interting for its tone and the perfetc share betwwen the saxophone and piano. But later on, Denisov will go much further, and some of his rythms are even much more complex than Webern's. He seems to pave the way to Ferneyhough. In my opinion, Gubaidulina and Schnittke were very courageaus and inventive composers, but Denisov is much more strict. He should deserve at least as much fame as these two collegues.
Your comments are very good
These videos are so good, so well done and helpful, thanks !
Thank you!
Is it just me or do the first and third movements contain multiple DSCH motives?
They do, Shostakovich was his teacher
What is DSCH?
@@tempusestiocundum3549 A musical motif 'D, E flat, C, B natural', a trademark of Shostakovich.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSCH_motif
Where can I find fingerings for quartertones and multiphonics on saxophone?
The techniques of saxophone playing by G. Netti and M. Weiss
@@Th3GreenBeret thanks
Jacob Collier may help you, as may Ashnal vilna Grasky
@@kmytpmv314 😂
Badass!
I'm so happy this "music" languishes in almost complete obscurity as it should.
It's... not?
I mean, from the perspective of music people hear, sure, but you can say that about nearly every piece in the saxophone "classical" repertoire. If you're a person studying saxophone literature in or beyond college you know of this piece. It's a standard.
11:50
Two instruments are competing, hardly ever making a collective statement. Thus we can clearly see it as a composers strong, even though veiled, protest against forceful collectivization and Stalin agrarian policy in the soviet countryside.
I don't know how you can imagine all that from this music of a piano and a sax? You are projecting your own politics on to this composer. That's rather comical actually...
@@tonylogan4092 Ikr ? it's really puzzling why westerners have to make every piece by every composer from the USSR about how Stalin ate human babies or something .
@@tonylogan4092 I mean, that's the point, his/her/their comment seems so steretyped that I'm willing to bet intentionally mocking people doing that kind of analysis.
коллективизация происходила не в 1970 годы
@@antoningilbert1615 So, you understood my joke. Alas, a lot Americans are so hard wired on Russian that they see "political" statement in any piece of music, in any instruments, I know such people, strange, some are rather educated.
Definitely "Anti-Collectivist-Alternative"....piercing, at times....possibly an Acquired Taste......
"Piercing" to me has more to do with the timbre of the alto saxophone than the particular character of this piece, which just so happens to use the full range of the instrument
Don't feed such idiocy.
@@tonylogan4092 -- But...Why "Idiocy"?? And if not nourished, then how can it Thrive??
what drugs was denisov on
Why do ı feel like it is just piano vs sax 🤣
This is bad music
Don't embarrass yourself, fool
@@Charlie_Miles 🤓
Nah, you’re just bad
@@bobmatt5175 oh honey, this is so bad. This is classical music death
@@KCkool12 Lmao just because you lack the mental capacity to understand it and musical ability to play it doesn't mean it's bad. Simply get better.