It's the same with other big productions like the last Fantastic Beasts movie, The Flash movie, Aquaman 2, etc. You hear so much about all sorts of drama with folks like the actors and actresses, the marketing, and so on, but you never really read/hear about stuff like... "What is the story about?" or "What cool/fun/interesting things are going to be in the film or show?"
Disney publicly: “we are the most progressive company, all of our critics are just bigots” Disney behind closed doors: “pay the women less than the men”
@@TheJcris87 Thing is Patriarchy isn't a narrative. It's reality and an eventuality. It's inevitable. The reason men and women need to get along to balance the power structure.
That is the dumbest thing ever. The "bullies" were usually the popular, good looking people. We grew up happy and even research shows Conservative ppl are mostly happy and attractive. Most moved on. The losers that are in power and the losers of the losers. Jeff Bezos, Headland, Filoni, Kennedy. They are freaking ugly bitter dorks no one would notice if they had been kidnapped during Highschool They were never bullies, they were freaking ugly bitter losers in Highschool and now are in control of things and want to ruin them
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 this is typically self sabotage women causing the unequal pay not the men talk about sabotaging yourself to pull the gender pay gap card holy f**k and women are supposed to be the superior gender how is that?
Just wait until they change the audience score to only “verified audience” and the score will shift to 90% verified fresh. Little mermaid is a good example of them hiding bad reviews with paid verified reviewers
@@JustTooDamnHonest Yeah, I figured that's the reason why they didn't try to kill a whole bunch of votes this time, because they'd probably just make the score even lower. XD
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 RT would've blocked the scores sooner and yet for some reason they allowed the score of the audience to drop tp the point where it is less than the Holiday Special. There are those within that trash site that do believe in the scores from both sides unfortunately you have companies who bribe the critics in order to give a product that doesn't align with their views bad reviews and we have seen it and know it. That is why people like myself are speaking ot for we love the product that these companies continue to violate and the more they do that the more louder we become and these companies grow desperate by paying the shill media to run hit pieces of content creators who speak out against their trash.
How can anyone fix Disney Star Wars at this point ? The entire management, writers, Directors, Producers, etc. will have to be replaced and it'll take years to come up with a whole new story arc set in a era that hasn't been written about that much. Marvels could be easier to fix with just starting a new Universe of Super Heroes but even that will take years to gain the trust of the fans back and by then all the OG fans will be too old to give a F.
That 'younger audience' they thought overdoing the DEI was going to bring in never materialised and they alienated the ones they thought they could insult for complaining and are surprised they walked away. Disney and others need a complete clean out. Few current audiences trust them.
Start off with the aftereffects of RotJ forming the New Republic, make the old books comics cannon again (some can still be cut mind you) use X-WING novels as the basis for the initial new series/movies then Jedi Academy followed by the real Thrawn Trilogy
I couldn't help but mentally hear the sarcastic "Oh, no......"s Maximillion Pegasus would let out in Yugioh whenever someone did something they thought was smart, but was actually playing into his hands, upon reading the title of this video. They basically cover how I feel about this matter!
Never forget, knights of the old republic and it's sequel both managed to become beloved Star Wars stories without fan service characters or plot lines.
Basic trades like Laborers, Carpenters, Electricians, Painters, Pyrotechnicians, Lighting Technicians, Armorers, Firemen, Catering, Security and other trades, are skill sets which the Entertainment Industry rely on heavily for their productions, obviously all of which are traditionally male dominated careers and jobs that attract few women.
I think the UK government subsidised a chunk and the rest was laundered through the books or how else did they spend 180M. I haven't forgotten that long term senior parks accountant who tried to bring dodgy book keeping practises to the higher ups, even went to government when they ignored her yet I've never heard an outcome from that 'investigation'. Disney's answer was to fire her as a 'disgruntled employee' (20 years tenure). Disney settled when she sued. It seems no one cares Disney's fudging numbers.
I don't believe them when they claim to be harassed or threatened. It's just like when they call you an istaphobe. It's bullshit they spew when they don't get their way.
My prediction is that Disney will run Star Wars entirely into the ground, sell it off, and whoever buys it will de-canonize ALL of the Disney era products - books, movies, TV, all of it.
It’s insanely hypocritical that a company touting the ideals of something such as DEI is unable (or perhaps unwilling) to close the wage gap between their male and female employees. So many of their actions as of late are nothing short of shameful. 😒
"Where is the money going?" - exactly. This show (Acolyte) feels like one of the items approved by a big city council and then no one can show where the money went (this happens a lot in LA). There is definitely something shady going on at Disney.
There is simply a difference: Stating, that you are all in for diversity and even hire diverse ppl does not cost you any money (at least in the beginning) -- but equal pay DOES cost you money. So do the one thing and ignore the other, since the big fond companies do not ask for the later.
12:30 this is prime example of companies pandering to a specific group and put them on a pedestal that they didn't ask for, and then being used as a meat sheild to block off the haters and blames them for the negative that they started
I’ve been surprised at all the “apologists” this show gets, where they defend the show against negative criticism, but then also admit they haven’t even watched it themselves! I feel that’s the ultimate proof the show is failing: Nothing shows the poor quality of the program and marketing when it can’t even lure in the people who would defend it.
They probably started cutting the starwars budget cause it’s doing so bad. And then people keep signing up to do a Star Wars show cause they think they are being revolutionary.
19:09 Wait wait wait… I just noticed the article headline on the top left... So NOW the aliens DO count as "diversity"? I'm sure that when Star Wars fans pointed that out in the past it was dismissed.
I honestly don’t understand how they still have any investor confidence at all. Why would anyone continue to financially prop up the studio responsible for coining the term “flopbuster”?
I wonder how these wage gaps are calculated. Are they comparing ALL employees and contractors? Becauuse I doubt you pay the catering waitress the same as your chief cameraman.
It's NOT about getting or not getting paid ladies. It about ... wielding the...message and WHO gets to wield it. It's NOT about the money it's allllll about the...message...right? IF you REALLY ...CARED you'd take a 50% CUT. IF you REALLY cared about the...message. Getting paid pffftt ...you don't care.
We have seen these sorts of space witches before, showing Darth Maul's society with the men in a separate colony acting almost as slaves to the matriarchal witches.
I'm 67 yr old woman, I'm the only female out of all my women friends that see these types of movies. I grew up watching Star Trek , Batman, Spider man, loved them . I went to see Dune 2 and Mad Max, not very many women there. I had a gay brother and black friends growing up. I have been called Racist, for not like what they did, didn't blame the women or young girls for not supporting them. LOL. Not one time in history of movie making, the director and actors called the public racist .. Barbie did great, most girls and teenager, women went not young boys.. They made a movie, for themselves not the public.
I'm 2 weeks behind in my listening, so this may get brought up in a newer post, but apparently the viewer ratings have fallen so embarrassingly low, that RT has apparently hidden the viewer score. 😅😅😅😅
She agreed with the interviewer and then her and the other one sat there and arrogantly laughed their asses of! If your gonna say it, at least be woman enough to own up to it when it doesn't work out. This is what annoys about these people. There huge hypocrits.
I like how they wont even tell you exactly how much people were making. They'd lose all sympathy if you knew the wookie hair-stylist was making $1000/hr or some shite like that. I bet most of the budget went to Lee Jung-jae (SquidGame) & Carrie-Anne Moss lol.
Also, Darth Leatherface (aka Discount Darth Vader) has got to be one of the most horrible characters (visually speaking) ever. I can see a senior VP at Ollie's thinking: "Oh, God. We still haven't moved the toys from the last two films, Boba Fett, Ashoka and Kenobi yet. Where the hell are we gonna put all the toys from this $#!% ?"
I would not be surprised if we will learn more about what happened at the creation of this show. Because it really feels like something fishy was going on with the budget and the people involved.
If the day comes when they retcon all this crap, don't forget all the people who pushed for it to be this way. They all lick their finger then put it up in the air, to see which way the "culture war" is blowing. They'll 100% sure try to say they were against this stuff and didn't want it in their projects. Screenshot and show receipts, when the time comes.
"I don't believe that I've created queer, with capital Q, content." No? What exactly does one have to do be considered major queer then? Regardless, virtue-signaling and clout-chasing are nothing more than facades. They don't do these things because they believe in them, they do it because of the benefits and the idea they are going to be heralded as "heroes" in the eyes of the public. It's nothing more than selfish behavior masquerading as concern for the community. The moment it backfires they either double-down or backpedal to lessen the blow. This one did the latter.
Money Laundering… Drug Lords gotta WASH their money somewhere. Look for the high paid positions, by unknown or unimportant positions (gaffer @ $125,000)
Considering how objectified the men were in the show, that's fair.
And, however bad they were, they gave an infinitely better performance than most of the female characters, especially Amandla and Headland's wife.
@@kostaspassias3815not wrong there
@kostaspassias3815 well I'm willing go bet both got their roles on the casting couch like her mentor Harvey showed her.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh they made a mockery of and the butt kissers say there's no agenda when there's clear anti male hate on display.
" Ironic, isn't it?" - Sheev Palpatine
"a little too ironic... yeah i really do think."
This is the first time I’ve felt something positive relating to Disney Star Wars since Rogue One.
Damn you know someone is going to be real mad.
@@boitmecklyn4995The sith always betray each other
@@boitmecklyn4995It’s the free advice you just didn’t take.
Rise your hands if you're not surprised at this.
A shame that the drama behind the scenes of this show is more interesting than the show itself.
🤚🤣
🙌🏻
It's the same with other big productions like the last Fantastic Beasts movie, The Flash movie, Aquaman 2, etc. You hear so much about all sorts of drama with folks like the actors and actresses, the marketing, and so on, but you never really read/hear about stuff like... "What is the story about?" or "What cool/fun/interesting things are going to be in the film or show?"
Disney publicly: “we are the most progressive company, all of our critics are just bigots”
Disney behind closed doors: “pay the women less than the men”
Why do you think they want more females in their projects? They are LITERALLY saving money doing it.
Gotta keep the patriarchy narrative alive for the forced feminist narrative to continue.
I imagine the meme where Bart puts a stick in his own bikes wheel spokes
@@TheJcris87 Thing is Patriarchy isn't a narrative. It's reality and an eventuality. It's inevitable. The reason men and women need to get along to balance the power structure.
This!
Another fan said it best: "The ones who bullied you for liking Star Wars, are now in charge of it."
And are now bullying you for not liking it
And now they're forcefully making a full female cast so they can pay them less.
That is the dumbest thing ever. The "bullies" were usually the popular, good looking people. We grew up happy and even research shows Conservative ppl are mostly happy and attractive. Most moved on.
The losers that are in power and the losers of the losers. Jeff Bezos, Headland, Filoni, Kennedy. They are freaking ugly bitter dorks no one would notice if they had been kidnapped during Highschool
They were never bullies, they were freaking ugly bitter losers in Highschool and now are in control of things and want to ruin them
@@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 this is typically self sabotage women causing the unequal pay not the men talk about sabotaging yourself to pull the gender pay gap card holy f**k and women are supposed to be the superior gender how is that?
Yep.
"The power of not as much moneyyyyy!"
The power of white collar crime!!!!
Another reason for IRS to audit this show, there's something that they hide from this series
Given that Harvey Weinstein's former personal assistant is the showrunner you KNOW that some shady sh1t is going on. 😏
Tens of millions per ep yet none for women cast?
@@aleccampbell7707 hey those executives aren't work for free you know (s/)
The iRss is too busy auditing w people and Trump supporters to do its job
Maybe a large donation to Hamas?
So this is the power of many.
The power of many, and they still get no pay raises
@@JoseHernandez-xv2bt And the Power of one who get all the laundered money.
Can't spell "many" without "man"...man-Y. Checks out, chromosome and all.
"Ironic," says the Senate.
Also the power of embezzlement and money laundering.
Just wait until they change the audience score to only “verified audience” and the score will shift to 90% verified fresh. Little mermaid is a good example of them hiding bad reviews with paid verified reviewers
Actually the scores are even less then that on the verified critics in case you want to know.
@@JustTooDamnHonest Yeah, I figured that's the reason why they didn't try to kill a whole bunch of votes this time, because they'd probably just make the score even lower. XD
@@JustTooDamnHonest if that is the case, that is the only reason why they did not changed it from day one
@@carloshenriquezimmer7543 RT would've blocked the scores sooner and yet for some reason they allowed the score of the audience to drop tp the point where it is less than the Holiday Special.
There are those within that trash site that do believe in the scores from both sides unfortunately you have companies who bribe the critics in order to give a product that doesn't align with their views bad reviews and we have seen it and know it.
That is why people like myself are speaking ot for we love the product that these companies continue to violate and the more they do that the more louder we become and these companies grow desperate by paying the shill media to run hit pieces of content creators who speak out against their trash.
Let us all sing Alanis Morrisette 1996 hit "Ironic"
People talk about the drama because it is more interesting than the show's story.
How can anyone fix Disney Star Wars at this point ? The entire management, writers, Directors, Producers, etc. will have to be replaced and it'll take years to come up with a whole new story arc set in a era that hasn't been written about that much. Marvels could be easier to fix with just starting a new Universe of Super Heroes but even that will take years to gain the trust of the fans back and by then all the OG fans will be too old to give a F.
That 'younger audience' they thought overdoing the DEI was going to bring in never materialised and they alienated the ones they thought they could insult for complaining and are surprised they walked away. Disney and others need a complete clean out. Few current audiences trust them.
Start off with the aftereffects of RotJ forming the New Republic, make the old books comics cannon again (some can still be cut mind you) use X-WING novels as the basis for the initial new series/movies then Jedi Academy followed by the real Thrawn Trilogy
Well when flushing money down a toilet, there's often a turd to go with it right?
the toilet clogged... the turds are floating around the floor... and On Disney+
This just gets worse and worse.🤨
Filoni went from the highs of Clone Wars to the pits of Acolyte. I personally would’ve asked for my name to be cut from the credits.
In the immortal words of Sheev....... Ironic.
Leslye learned much from her own sith master, Darth Weinstein, I see
The force is neither male nor female. It’s not an entity. It’s a magical element.
I couldn't help but mentally hear the sarcastic "Oh, no......"s Maximillion Pegasus would let out in Yugioh whenever someone did something they thought was smart, but was actually playing into his hands, upon reading the title of this video. They basically cover how I feel about this matter!
Drinking his fruit juice out of his wine glass in the dub
Same here 😂
🎶🎵"And who would've thought - it figures!"🎵🎶
Never forget, knights of the old republic and it's sequel both managed to become beloved Star Wars stories without fan service characters or plot lines.
Oh thank you disney - you're the atrociously dysfunctional gift that keeps on giving...
This stuff has to be some sort of money laundering scheme.
Thats my only thought.
No way you can blow this kind of money on purpose.
Basic trades like Laborers, Carpenters, Electricians, Painters, Pyrotechnicians, Lighting Technicians, Armorers, Firemen, Catering, Security and other trades, are skill sets which the Entertainment Industry rely on heavily for their productions, obviously all of which are traditionally male dominated careers and jobs that attract few women.
I would've thought catering would be closer to 50 50
But Grace gave the Acolyte two thumbs up 😂😂😂
Well this is another set of lawsuits waiting to happen.
They signed contracts
@@kellysouter4381
Contracts can make breaking the law acceptable? Please show me where that is written, genius! 😂
* INHALE *
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!
Just realized that Headland looks like Mitch Hedburg.... its all i can see now
Thats a backhand comment towards Mitch.
Take it back.
I'm surprised anybody was actually paid any real money for this awful tripe.
I think the UK government subsidised a chunk and the rest was laundered through the books or how else did they spend 180M. I haven't forgotten that long term senior parks accountant who tried to bring dodgy book keeping practises to the higher ups, even went to government when they ignored her yet I've never heard an outcome from that 'investigation'. Disney's answer was to fire her as a 'disgruntled employee' (20 years tenure). Disney settled when she sued. It seems no one cares Disney's fudging numbers.
they’re basically pocketing the money
I don't believe them when they claim to be harassed or threatened.
It's just like when they call you an istaphobe.
It's bullshit they spew when they don't get their way.
My prediction is that Disney will run Star Wars entirely into the ground, sell it off, and whoever buys it will de-canonize ALL of the Disney era products - books, movies, TV, all of it.
Turning a $4B investment into $2B or under like Mr. Burns and the Germans buying his Nuclear power plant
Who knew that a company that worked with a Chinese death camp would be scummy?
I’m shocked to hear there were men on it.
It’s insanely hypocritical that a company touting the ideals of something such as DEI is unable (or perhaps unwilling) to close the wage gap between their male and female employees. So many of their actions as of late are nothing short of shameful. 😒
At this point it’s just money laundering
The power of ONE…
The power of TWO….
The power of MANYYY (excuses) 🤦🏻♀️
So the show starring women, written by women, directed by a woman, produced by a woman, decided to pay women less?
"Where is the money going?" - exactly. This show (Acolyte) feels like one of the items approved by a big city council and then no one can show where the money went (this happens a lot in LA). There is definitely something shady going on at Disney.
You can TASTE the irony on this one lol
All those money are going to the executives
I'm convinced that Disney's only Starwars source material they've looked at was the Christmas special.
There is simply a difference: Stating, that you are all in for diversity and even hire diverse ppl does not cost you any money (at least in the beginning) -- but equal pay DOES cost you money. So do the one thing and ignore the other, since the big fond companies do not ask for the later.
They used The Farce:
🖕 *"This is not the Star Wars you're looking for"* 🖕
12:30 this is prime example of companies pandering to a specific group and put them on a pedestal that they didn't ask for, and then being used as a meat sheild to block off the haters and blames them for the negative that they started
This only gets worse wtf
It never fails.
Around 20 Million dollars an episode and around 180 Million dollars for the first season.
I’ve been surprised at all the “apologists” this show gets, where they defend the show against negative criticism, but then also admit they haven’t even watched it themselves! I feel that’s the ultimate proof the show is failing: Nothing shows the poor quality of the program and marketing when it can’t even lure in the people who would defend it.
It’s funny that she even thought for a moment, that this show could be successful
They probably started cutting the starwars budget cause it’s doing so bad. And then people keep signing up to do a Star Wars show cause they think they are being revolutionary.
Well now. This, quite literally, is not very cash money of Disney.
19:09 Wait wait wait… I just noticed the article headline on the top left... So NOW the aliens DO count as "diversity"? I'm sure that when Star Wars fans pointed that out in the past it was dismissed.
The fact an actor's pay is generally confidential information unless made public via press release made cry BS on this.
Disney won't reset Star Wars. They will double and triple down. The only thing that can stop Disney is loss of investor confidence.
I honestly don’t understand how they still have any investor confidence at all. Why would anyone continue to financially prop up the studio responsible for coining the term “flopbuster”?
Holy crap people don't understand numbers and stats...
Judging by how bad the show is, they are just paying tge worker their worth.
What the hell is a pre-production budget? You Don't have anything & you still end up paying $48.5 mil? Bruhh, Iger needs to change disney a lot😅
Seriously if you are going to be in a bad show at least get paid
Youd think Squid Game, Jedi Barathian, and Trinity had the most leverage in wage negotiations.
I wonder how these wage gaps are calculated.
Are they comparing ALL employees and contractors?
Becauuse I doubt you pay the catering waitress the same as your chief cameraman.
REALLY breaking that glass ceiling there, aren't cha Star Wars ladies?
I just realized that Kneon's 'its just weird' sounds just like Brock Samson :-)
And rightly so because only the Squid guy can act. Amandla should have paid contribution.
It's NOT about getting or not getting paid ladies. It about ... wielding the...message and WHO gets to wield it. It's NOT about the money it's allllll about the...message...right? IF you REALLY ...CARED you'd take a 50% CUT. IF you REALLY cared about the...message. Getting paid pffftt ...you don't care.
We have seen these sorts of space witches before, showing Darth Maul's society with the men in a separate colony acting almost as slaves to the matriarchal witches.
Maul's voice actor probably got paid more then the Witches did too lol
I'm 67 yr old woman, I'm the only female out of all my women friends that see these types of movies. I grew up watching Star Trek , Batman, Spider man, loved them . I went to see Dune 2 and Mad Max, not very many women there. I had a gay brother and black friends growing up. I have been called Racist, for not like what they did, didn't blame the women or young girls for not supporting them. LOL. Not one time in history of movie making, the director and actors called the public racist .. Barbie did great, most girls and teenager, women went not young boys.. They made a movie, for themselves not the public.
People need to check for off shore accounts. That money went somewhere!~
I'm 2 weeks behind in my listening, so this may get brought up in a newer post, but apparently the viewer ratings have fallen so embarrassingly low, that RT has apparently hidden the viewer score. 😅😅😅😅
On today's episode of How Bad Can Disney Screw Up...
When this is the quality of producing, the actors deserve less.
They can’t even live up to their own standards but have the nerve to lecture us in a franchise about space wizards and harry aliens
Catered food, coffee, donuts, travel locations to inspect sites...partying...over five years.
Money laundering...Breakin' Bad...🤣
Hawk Tuah would've gotten paid more, but they refused to let her audition.
She agreed with the interviewer and then her and the other one sat there and arrogantly laughed their asses of! If your gonna say it, at least be woman enough to own up to it when it doesn't work out. This is what annoys about these people. There huge hypocrits.
The irony is unreal
It writes itself
Good.. they didnt deserve it.. obviously..
They paid them what their work was worth. Too much.
I like how they wont even tell you exactly how much people were making. They'd lose all sympathy if you knew the wookie hair-stylist was making $1000/hr or some shite like that.
I bet most of the budget went to Lee Jung-jae (SquidGame) & Carrie-Anne Moss lol.
I'm seriously starting to wonder if this show was intended as a tax write-off . . .
They should pay them the same amount as Bob Iger!
Howdy Geeky! Hi Kneon.
This feels deeply ironic.
Also, Darth Leatherface (aka Discount Darth Vader) has got to be one of the most horrible characters (visually speaking) ever. I can see a senior VP at Ollie's thinking: "Oh, God. We still haven't moved the toys from the last two films, Boba Fett, Ashoka and Kenobi yet. Where the hell are we gonna put all the toys from this $#!% ?"
Anyone who got paid any money for this atrocity was overpaid
I love the hypocracy of not paying the women equal to the men
I would not be surprised if we will learn more about what happened at the creation of this show. Because it really feels like something fishy was going on with the budget and the people involved.
Geeky, Could you do a show talking about the Star Wars EU books you like, especially ones about Mara Jade?
If the day comes when they retcon all this crap, don't forget all the people who pushed for it to be this way. They all lick their finger then put it up in the air, to see which way the "culture war" is blowing. They'll 100% sure try to say they were against this stuff and didn't want it in their projects. Screenshot and show receipts, when the time comes.
"The Force is Female, But the paycheck isn't" Darth Kennedy
"I don't believe that I've created queer, with capital Q, content."
No? What exactly does one have to do be considered major queer then?
Regardless, virtue-signaling and clout-chasing are nothing more than facades. They don't do these things because they believe in them, they do it because of the benefits and the idea they are going to be heralded as "heroes" in the eyes of the public. It's nothing more than selfish behavior masquerading as concern for the community. The moment it backfires they either double-down or backpedal to lessen the blow. This one did the latter.
She said in the interviews before acolyte started that her queernes this and that. Like 16 times in one sentence, so I wonder why it's an issue.
WOW. That's sad.
What a bunch of liars!
Godzilla Minus One only cost only $15M.
Yes it did
Don’t harass people who like the Acolyte. They have it hard enough with the whole not existing thing.
And yet; still cost about $200million. Go figure!
12:10 It's not just the lesbian space witches, they also have one of Amandalala's characters hitting on an underage female Padawan.
Money Laundering… Drug Lords gotta WASH their money somewhere. Look for the high paid positions, by unknown or unimportant positions (gaffer @ $125,000)