"He crawled under the skin and became that character" It's one of the best abilities to have as an animator. I cant speak for that but it's a given that it should be a skill a good animator appreciates.
The whole thing that Keane just said at the end of this clip is exactly my theory: ''See beyond the sheet of paper.'', Don't think of your characters as just drawings, RELATE to them, befriend them, try to think about how they would react in a certain situation, Try to learn everything about them just like with a close friend. Animation. for me, is all about that.
Oh my gosh! I totally know what he's talking about when he says: "Squashes and stretches" and the "forms are so pliable" . I try to achieve that in my drawings...like try to give my characters a sort of spirit. I always look up to Glen Keane when I learn to draw. I really hope I get to meet him someday.
I've never thought about that before. You have a point; Disney animation does focus more on caracature-ization and facial animation and Ghibli's focus is much more realistic.
yes the video is from the dvd called FRANK and OLLIE the 2 great animators of disney classic films. it was done by franks son in the early to late 1990s
I think this is one of the reasons why I (visually) like traditional Disney Animations more than the "advanced" animations of Studio Ghibli: the soul and emotive expressions of the characters' faces and actions are missing from the latter. With the anime style of studio ghibli, it's hard to emote facial expressions, and with the realistic body proportions they use, it's hard to exaggerate movement. Ghibli does have more mature themes, but disney animations are more incredible to watch
I think he was originally leading the story creation for Tangled, but ended up just as a Character animator. I imagine that there were a lot of things going on and that he just wanted to be able to create his own original things.
1:55 If you read "Drawn to Life" books, it's clear the term "calories" refers to various qualities in the pictures, not the literal fat on the characters themselves. I'm surprised Glen implies that in this instance.
yeah traditional animation("2D") does have more expressive quality. Japanese animation is still almost all traditional 2d, though i won't say all are great, but the good ones are just amazing.
I really don't think that there are any less emotive, or any less capable of being emotive. We're not talking about UPA style characters here, characters so abstracted that it becomes difficult to make them act. I think it just comes down to cultural differences. It's like the old stereotype of the white guy to whom all asians "look alike". They don't actually look alike, you just aren't immersed in that culture, and you've glossed over the nuances for that reason.
I more or less agree with you, however, I feel that Ghibli films are usually more dynamic, utilizing expertly timed frenetic bursts of action and movement. I don't think Ollie or Milt would've been able to animate the visceral scenes in Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, etc. I like both styles, and appreciate what they do differently. The perception that Ghibli films are less emotive may be because Ghibli films tend to more directly imitate real life, so the expressions are more deliberate.
@PixelRelatedismyname The attention to detail in japanese animation in general is put on superficial things like highlights, shading and small details. On the flipside western animation focuses more on simple forms that do complex actions (or so it used to be... these days west also imitates anime a lot, to it's own detriment).
It's always fun to listen to a legendary animator talk about legendary animators.
Whenever I see Glen Keane talking about animation. It's like I can feel his passion for it, it gives me a fuzzy feeling in my heart ^__^
"He crawled under the skin and became that character"
It's one of the best abilities to have as an animator. I cant speak for that but it's a given that it should be a skill a good animator appreciates.
The whole thing that Keane just said at the end of this clip is exactly my theory:
''See beyond the sheet of paper.'', Don't think of your characters as just drawings, RELATE to them, befriend them, try to think about how they would react in a certain situation, Try to learn everything about them just like with a close friend. Animation. for me, is all about that.
Glen, without a doubt, you are one of the greatest Animators of our time as well as any of the 9 OLD MEN...;)
2 people clearly can't handle the awesomeness we're witnessing in this video.
inspirational stuff right here....now i feel like drawing
Oh my gosh! I totally know what he's talking about when he says: "Squashes and stretches" and the "forms are so pliable" .
I try to achieve that in my drawings...like try to give my characters a sort of spirit.
I always look up to Glen Keane when I learn to draw. I really hope I get to meet him someday.
Glen Keane is was one of the greatest animators of all time!
I've never thought about that before. You have a point; Disney animation does focus more on caracature-ization and facial animation and Ghibli's focus is much more realistic.
Glen is the best!! he inspirers you so much! it feels like i'm gonna blow up! haha he's a genius!!!
AWESOME!!!
yes the video is from the dvd called FRANK and OLLIE the 2 great animators of disney classic films. it was done by franks son in the early to late 1990s
inspirational to say the least!
I think this is one of the reasons why I (visually) like traditional Disney Animations more than the "advanced" animations of Studio Ghibli: the soul and emotive expressions of the characters' faces and actions are missing from the latter. With the anime style of studio ghibli, it's hard to emote facial expressions, and with the realistic body proportions they use, it's hard to exaggerate movement. Ghibli does have more mature themes, but disney animations are more incredible to watch
im so intrigued! do you have more?
one of the best videos ive seen in youtube
Masterclass!
I like how they put that doodle there, that drawing was probably used as a pinup
if you look up Glen Keane in the dictionary it says "Animation Legend-Genius"
He is not the only one...
This was wonderful, thanks :)
I think he was originally leading the story creation for Tangled, but ended up just as a Character animator. I imagine that there were a lot of things going on and that he just wanted to be able to create his own original things.
It's True!!
Now its 2020 after 10 yerars
The first time Glen talks about Milt kahl 😜
wish the quality is better
great video. anybody know where this clip is from?
1:55 If you read "Drawn to Life" books, it's clear the term "calories" refers to various qualities in the pictures, not the literal fat on the characters themselves. I'm surprised Glen implies that in this instance.
yeah traditional animation("2D") does have more expressive quality. Japanese animation is still almost all traditional 2d, though i won't say all are great, but the good ones are just amazing.
where did you get this video? it seems rare
I do not understand why he had to quit when he was doing so well.
Where is this video from?
I really don't think that there are any less emotive, or any less capable of being emotive. We're not talking about UPA style characters here, characters so abstracted that it becomes difficult to make them act.
I think it just comes down to cultural differences. It's like the old stereotype of the white guy to whom all asians "look alike". They don't actually look alike, you just aren't immersed in that culture, and you've glossed over the nuances for that reason.
I more or less agree with you, however, I feel that Ghibli films are usually more dynamic, utilizing expertly timed frenetic bursts of action and movement. I don't think Ollie or Milt would've been able to animate the visceral scenes in Princess Mononoke, Spirited Away, etc. I like both styles, and appreciate what they do differently. The perception that Ghibli films are less emotive may be because Ghibli films tend to more directly imitate real life, so the expressions are more deliberate.
@PixelRelatedismyname The attention to detail in japanese animation in general is put on superficial things like highlights, shading and small details. On the flipside western animation focuses more on simple forms that do complex actions (or so it used to be... these days west also imitates anime a lot, to it's own detriment).
this is cool and everything, but he's only repeating what the original guys use to say.
@MageBurger some actually changed them or at least developed them now i use the law of 5 when i animate. To go quicker but with good quality