Masking Trials Questioned: Why Absence of Evidence is a Synonym with Doesn't Work | Cochrane Review
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- Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor
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People will forgive you for being wrong, but they will never forgive you for being right. Especially when events prove you right while proving them wrong.- Thomas Sowell
Not forgiven.
There is no need for me to blame and then forgive the FEARFUL terrified people afraid of dying . This was a targeted biowarfare attack executed by our own government. Now they want us to hate one another and while we should be forgiving our media addicted brothers .. our evil brothers are laughing at our conditioning . We are slaves of hate and they love it
Do you ?
We’re in a lot of messes today because we never listened to Dr. Sowell.
This from Sowell who's often wrong when he lets his ideology driven dogma rather than facts inform his narrative.
@@twntwrs What exactly in Sowell’s quote is wrong? Just by your wording I know which “dogma” you subscribe to.
"You have to make an intervention that works in realty, not Narnia..."
that really hit home for me... 😂😂😂
Me too, though i love those old chronicles
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the intervention was to socially distance. masks were always meant as a last resort if you couldn't socially distance. the early reluctance was driven partly to avoid this very thing -- people thinking a mask was all they needed.
@@miles6910 none of it worked, even the gene therapies
@@janemot2368 and yet people who opted not to get the "gene therapies" die at a higher rate. seems like it's working.
Yes, giving birth with a mask on really takes the cake. That one is a good example of how we profoundly lost our way.
Just a crime to birth with a mask!!
If they tried to force me to wear that Id probably bite their hand off. I would tell them masks are profoundly fking stupid and I refuse to humor the nonsense right now. (I was always really anti mask and was that way in moments of mild discomfort, I cannot imagine the level of Karen I would demonstrate in such a scenario!)
I had a operation on my nose and thankfully no one mentioned it once. But the fuckers didn't want to give me an exemption for the next couple of weeks.
That is a lopsided perspective .... since most women give birth surrounded by medical personnel that are ALL WEARING MASKS - ALL DONE FOR THE PATIENT'S PROTECTION!!
Medical personnel often have to wear masks for HOURS every single day in surgical settings ... AGAIN .... to protect their patients.
IF WEARING A MASK IS SO STUPID AND INEFFECTIVE .... maybe THEY should whine and complain and refuse to wear masks too!!
@@bakirev I had to wear it while waiting for hernia surgery. Funny, when I woke up, the diaper was gone. Apparently the bogeyman virus doesn't attack you while you're in recovery.
"They saw that Trump didn't do it, and they knew they were right!" 🤣 So true, lol.
Lots of politicians on both the left and the right were caught with their masks down.
I don't even like Trump and even I know that much of the hysteria was rooted in TDS. Can you imagine how liberals would have acted if Trump did push for masks and the covid shot? The whole narrative would have been reversed because US politics is all based in tribal nonsense.
@@ThesmartestTem Trump did push the shot. He said he took it, and he recommended everyone get it too. Of course, the left and MSM lied about it and called him an antivaxxer, as if that was a bad thing.
Turns out, Trump was just as wrong as the left.
So germane to our moment - “If you want to mandate a policy YOU, the policy makers, must have evidence to impose such policies on people.” Bravo Vinay. Bravo!!
Can't believe what has been done to small children, particularly in USA. In UK it was bad enough but children 2 to 4, it is horrific. I see people working in jobs, wearing masks even today. It makes my blood boil. I think everything you have done to explain what has gone on is excellent.
I honestly wonder if Dr offices/hospitals will ever go back to not requiring masks. They’ve dug themselves so far into a hole of illogical nonsense that I can’t see them coming back from it
My oncologist office complex (20+Dr) haven't required masks in over a year. Of course I live in one of the red states that are doomed for hell.
Same question I had ... I like your analogy to digging a hole too deep. Given how masking is near universal in Korea, Japan, Taiwan, and China, I wonder if they will ever stop either.
@@chrisk9613 Those places ironically have insanely high respiratory illnesses and deaths. Maybe the mask spreads more sickness.
Here in Florida masks aren't required
When we go to the hospital we need a new paper mask at the door. When we go to other doctors offices we are required to bring our own masks. Someone please explain to me how this makes sense. Why does no one question these things?. Like wearing masks into a restaurant and talking them off to eat. Or plexi glass in front of a desk or cash?
Basic PPE and Industrial Hygiene practices and procedures have demonstred for years masking and base level respiratory protection could never stop or mitigate an aerosolized particle. I hate that we in this profession have to prove over and over again basic respiratory protection.
The unqualified and unverified Drs who pushed masking really set us back and did irreparable harm to people who have no idea what factors contribute to a measurable reduction or protection factor.
As a Public Health Professional and an Occupational Health and Safety Manager, I personally fight against the mental fuckery that was washed over the masses for 2 years.
Good on you Sir! And even I who wore those masks at work for decades and listened to people like you (it was mandatory) could immidately recognize that BS. Those people are "too smart" to be useful.
I'm so glad I found people like Kristen Meghan and Dr. Petty early on in this chaos to get real info from. In my former profession, I had to take hazmat training from an IH and even I knew from that seminar that much of the stuff they were saying about masking was BS. Especially when you saw nothing about proper don and doff procedure being publicly instructed anywhere. What I saw was a direct pathway to self contamination I remembered from that training.
well said ,i totally agree
So hazmat suits don't work?
To stop a biological hazard, we'd need full suits and probably oxygen tanks, or something similar to what firemen wear into a burning building. I've been strangled, can't stand anything around my throat or over my face. Feels like suffocating
“You gotta make an intervention that works in life. Not in Narnia. “😂😂😂
made me laugh too. so funny.
😂😂😂
It did work as an indicator that we needed to take care and socially distance. Without masks people had no visible reminder we were in a pandemic.
@@carolinereidartist we didn’t need any of this.
That one made me laugh out loud too!
The most disturbing Covid moment was seeing all the kids leave the school with masks on.
Wearing them out west riding in HOT BUSES over 110° and more.
Can't roll down the windows.
Insane torcher.
It's straight up child abuse. Made me sick. Doctors and nurses and ambulance drivers and sane people knew they don't work. Men weren't required to be clean shaven so the masks could make contact. Eyeballs weren't required to be protected when the virus can enter that way. And if the scientific method is based on observation. Well I observed an increase in the number of infected after people started wearing masks.
If masks worked. Why were prisoners getting out of jail? Just give them a mask. Smh
@@recoveringsoul755 it's true what you say and it won't even post. I mean it when I say they will regret it. We are seeing Satan face to face.
I spit in that devils eye.
The kids playing sports with masks... so ridiculous
@@dedetudor. I've lost family members who believed the manipulation, one with a biology degree. But I once asked her if she knew her blood type, and she said she had "the regular kind". ?????? What? Being called a covidiot for using logic hurts.
It's more important to be well intentioned and to affirm feelings and emotions that it is to be right. That's how we got here.
Bingo
No it was worse than that, the pharma industry drove the absence of data on snake oil to sell snake oil.
In Australia (dont know about the US) that of course was supplmented - in the mid of the general population - by also buying more toilet paper!
The clear conclusion is wipe your bum alot to be free of the virus! Amazing!
Nah, we got here cause that’s the plan... it’s all a misdirect, their plan is working perfectly... we’re fighting amongst ourselves, while excess deaths are soaring and no one knows anything but everyone’s shouting...
Alas, you’re right about the irrelevance of the ‘official narrative/course of action’
@@MarkNOTW
"well intentioned"
Nope, we were always looking fpr a virus to use this vaccine on,
We knew it come from our lab, we knew we made it through furan inclusion and serial passage.
"I did not have gain of function with that woman."
We are not quite sure how it exitscaped.
WE did NOT sell lab animals at THAT MARKET.
When relocating the lab, we were pretty sure it was already out there and that we had no accidents during the removal process.
Then knowing all this, how could we not try everything.
Our guilt drove us to MANDATE you to do all sorts of things, we were desperate.
In the beginning we gave all the masks to Chyna, so we had none, simple.
Exactly. But they don’t even have to actually be well intentioned, they just have to sound well intentioned.
I believe this because nobody cares about results and people who mean well actually do care if what they do does well, or doesn’t.
Downtown Vancouver last month. An older woman alone in her car with the windows rolled up. Pulls down her mask to take a long drag from a cigarette then puts the mask back up. A priceless example of today’s society. I don’t think we’re long for this world.
I’ve always assumed it was to remind everyone they were in the midst of a pandemic. Worried people are much more biddable.
100%
Scared people are more likely to obey.
I assumed it was to see how stupid people are.
Masks were as good as the 6 foot rule where MIT said 6 feet or 60 feet, no difference.
And it was also meant to remind people they needed to be fearful as well as testing how gullible the population is.
My best friend is the chief of surgery at a large Pacific NW hospital. He tells me, he's always got a cup of coffee so he can avoid wearing a stupid mask!
I go to a school that has a masking policy 🤦♀️ normally I don't wear one but I am a thesis student doing a research project. I have already been called out by my supervisor so I don't want to be told again to wear one. I am getting a cup of coffee though 😏
@@raeban7295 , keep that cup of coffee! And get urself a big box of individually portioned snacks- like some really healthy nuts… gotta have that with the coffee… it’s very good for nutrition on the go… and good for keeping the mask off.
Those going around demanding others don a mask at all times, I wonder if they recall that expelled breath is a WASTE product of the body (as is sweat, urine, and doo doo!!!).
Is that equivalent to keeping on the clothing that I sweated in?, pants I pooped in? I know this is a bit of an exaggeration (still basically true)… but if we have viral particles in our respiratory system, and we have a mask on that COULD be the difference bt the viral load surpassing that threshold of expressed illness… or the viral load staying below the threshold of being symptomatic, and the load being diluted with fresh air. Ugh. I just cannot believe the entire world fell for so much BS.
I just chew gum.
@@midnull6009 That works!
@@ellejrrn8116 "I just cannot believe the entire world fell for so much BS." I think about this every day. Until the pandemic, I never realized how easily manipulated the human race is. Sad really...
I had to wear a mask during a treadmill stress test even though the nurse was wearing a full oxygen hood!!!!!!!! I had to stop due to inhaling the mask not because I was tired. I complained but the response was oh but it’s our policy. CAN THE MEDICAL FOLKS PLEASE USE THEIR FREAKIN BRAINS?……I am still so angry.
Now you know why they call it a stress test.
Next time use a P100 mask with the special high exertion filters. I had no problem with a stress test, much to the surprise of the staff.
I had to sign that I understand that the pcr test is inaccurate, but they can’t do surgery without these inaccurate tests.
Absence of evidence means you take the null hypothesis. Meaning that you must assume it doesn't work. They're making a claim and they need to prove it with strong evidence.
This is the scientific method 101.
Looking for this comment. We’re back at square one. Universities are now debating whether debates are allowed, after all.
Theis is true for proof of efficacy but not for practical intervention. On a risk benefit analysis you could take any intervention that has a strong history of little to no harm. On this basis many people took various vitamins through the pandemic when the evidence for such was only hypothesised or based on small studies. Those decisions paid off, particularly for vitamin D, when there really wasn’t any downside to taking it, except the tiny cost of purchase. Vitamin D is now in the “no doubt it works” category, surpassing all pharmaceutical interventions. Front line medicine does this all the time, giving cocktails of interventions where risks are low, then adjusting it over time as unknowns become knowns.
@@AlexSmith-gr4hp of course, but taking an intervention is a personal decision, not a statement of fact.
@@AlexSmith-gr4hp The evidence that taking certain supplements prevents illness or lessens the effects is quite substantial.
@@Batmans_Pet_Goldfish you’re correct in one context but not in others. It’s the “must assume it doesn’t work” which in the context of treating patients is not true. It’s good scientific principle in the context of treatment to try unknowns if the risk benefit analysis warrants it. To the point it would be unethical to not treat a patient with a low risk and cost intervention (e.g. vitamin D) even if there was only a 20% that it worked. I point this out specifically because this argument was used by pharma and the media to imply it was incorrect to try low cost, low risk interventions until the science was settled, while they hypocritically pushed other interventions that lacked evidence and had higher risks, as they diminished those risks.
My wife was born def in her right ear, and she got so frustrated wearing the mask. And when i tried to defend her online to someone saying that she should get a hearing aid and just wear the mask. I said, she’s def, and born that way. Not hard of hearing.
It was stated in the WHO that people who are deaf, SHOULD NOT wear a mask....as well as someone who had COPD, asthma, PTSD, etc...should be exempt from masks....
@@kc7067 and the issues is, shes an accountant, and during tax season allot of her clients are older and hard of hearing. So she really struggled with it. I got so upset with these people arguing with me online for no reason, other than to virtue signal
That same person has "disability advocate" or "mental health advocate" in their twitter bio, you just know it.
@@kbaccari88 exactly.
Tolerance of idiots & tyranny is unsustainable - I could smell a RAT since 2019 - Dunning Krugers with their masks, imposing neuroses & spreading stupidity
It is always a great relief to listen to Dr. Prasad. Good sense is a breath of fresh air.
Hey, have you got a license to take those unrestricted breaths! Here....read this covid info box.
Yours Truly, Google
Fresh air... Only in the eye and mind of this intellectual typhoon that rips up and flings shit all over the failures of medicine and public health!
There was a reason we didn't mask for any of the other outbreaks. There was a reason we didn't lock everything down the last time. Hundreds of years of medical knowledge and experience just tossed aside... almost like there were other reasons.
If masks really work then the medical community owes a huge apology to the families of the 60,000 people who died from the flu during the winter of 2017.
@@MarkNOTW Mark, you’re absolutely correct. However, the 60,000 deaths associated with the flu was highly exaggerated. Once again, exaggerated flu deaths by the CDC, NIH and HHS was an attempt to increase uptake of the flu vaccine. Once you start digging down into the facts, not the mumbling‘s of some compromised scientists, and or pharmaceutically funded studies, but real facts. You will find that you’re being lied to 90% of the time!
It's part of the Pfizer monetization of our daily lives, and this is just the very beginning.
when was the last outbreak that killed a million americans in 2 years?
@@miles6910 did those million die from covid or with CoVid? Also, your statement doesn’t address whether masks prevent transmission.
During COVID I started a weekly visit with an elderly friend. A cigar, a glass of rum, and a couple of hours of jokes and stories. N=2. Successful. 😊
The best part of being a conspiracy theorist is not contracting myocarditis.
While the likelihood of contracting myocarditis is at about as likely as your conspiracy theory being true.
@@twntwrs please, tell us more about how you voted for Joe "poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids" Biden.
@@djomegaminus conspiracy theorists also apparently believe that there's only one country in the world.
@@twntwrs I got it from my first dose of the vaccine. A vaccine I only got to protect my parents. Which was a claim against transmission that was a bold faced lie.
I wish I was a conspiracy theorist at the time. Now it is not theory, it is a fact you were lied to in every meaningful
Way.
We'll be here on team human when you want to pull your head outta the sand.
@@Fahmbo getting maimed or killed in, say, a car accident is thousands of times more likely than getting myocarditis from the vax. Yeah, I get it, when it happens to you it ruins your life and that's the only thing that matters to you but that doesn't automatically make it a conspiracy. Yes the criminality or at least mendacity of politicians and corporate actors is also a well established fact. Yes, greed, incompetence, power mongering, perverse incentives and corruption are rife but corruption can go a long way to explain what we saw happen before having to resort to conspiracy theories as explanations.
I'm pretty sure I fall right of Dr Prasad politically but I highly appreciate his intellectual honesty. There are many medical practitioners I have lost all respect for since March 2020
"In this forever war, which by the way, you lost, like all forever wars. You tend to lose them, then it takes another 15 years to leave Afghanistan". This is poetry.
Topical too, when Americans and UK politicians are rattling the sabre for a hot war with both China and Russia simultaneously.
Amazing poetry ❤️
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Tha war in Afghanistan was virtually won 6 month prior to it being lossed. There was a peace deal and everything
@@matsv201 lol, are you talking about the Doha agreement? That was the formal surrender of Afghanistan to the Taliban, by the US. It was the very definition of the US losing the war.
This is what will always happen when you launch a war of aggression half a world away as the US did. You'll kill vast numbers of civilians, your friends in the arms industry will make piles of money, and you'll inevitably leave the country in a worse position than it was in before you arrived to "help out".
Day ONE I read the side of the 3M N95 mask box. It clearly states *"Does not protect against Virus"* . It also states the masks work for a limited amount of time.
Same thing for the little blue masks from CVS. States clearly that it will not protect from viruses. So without it, you can't enter, but with it on, you can. It is a virtue signal.
Don't believe your lying eyes!!! 🤣
Meaning that the masks do not protect the wearer. But they may prevent the spread of virus from the wearer to others.
@@gribbler1695 Children were forced to mask at their detriment. Can you cite a study that determined that masking children is worth the harm? I think you MAY be pulling something out of your butt. Leave the kids alone.
@@nightdipper5178 How about the harm to teachers?
Ref: Investigative report into US state teacher retirement system data exposes mass coverup of teacher COVID-19 deaths
It is my hope that these videos on masking you have done will make people ask more and more questions about the narrative they have been fed during the pandemic. Thank you so much.
You go Vinay, that's what we needed from you.
Bravo for telling them like it is.
You know the science and you the Man!👏👏👏
I’ve been dumbstruck by how many people there are out there that just want to keep wearing masks….and want you to wear one.
Just read a study that ugly people are more likely to continue masking.
Trust the Science!
Yeah, I still see people driving alone wearing a mask. There’s obviously something wrong with those folks.
I am in Texas. At least in my part of Texas close to 0% of the people are wearing masks. When I go into a town like Dallas, maybe it is 1-2%. When I talk to my family members in Minnesota, sounds like everyone is wearing one. I can't believe we are living in the same world.
The public anonymity is part of it; and it's very destructive to society. Hiding in plain sight isn't a good way to go through life, kids!
About as effective as going to church.
I had to have an echo stress test back in July. They wanted me to run on the treadmill with a full EKG While wearing a mask. I told them this was the dumbest fucking thing I'd ever heard of. They agreed, but said I still needed to wear it. I started the test, got my HR up to 165bpm and ripped the mask off. Nobody did a damn thing. If they would have, I would have had some VERY strong words for them!
They should have said at the start: “Mask off my friend, breath free.”
Congratulations everyone you are watching a real professor and Physician.
As a builder I can categorically state that even wearing a n95 mask doesn’t prevent dust up my nose when I’m cutting concrete slabs with an angle grinder. On the assumption that viruses are in the air I can reasonably conclude that it doesn’t stop those either.
They only work one way - to stop you from spreading the virus.
I’ve been calling masks a magical talisman for a while. I’m cool with magical talismans but it only works when you believe it, and I don’t so I won’t be sharing in others’ magical talismans.
Thank you for speaking up for the deaf and hard of hearing and for children. The people who suffered and still suffer most, from baseless mask mandates.
Amen! 👏👏👏
******Fact….Carbon dioxide over 5000 ppm according to OSHA is dangerous******* Fact, breathing air high in concentrations of CO2 will activate the sympathetic nervous system. The activation of the sympathetic nervous system also activates stress hormones such as cortisol. This process reduces your immune response to fight off viruses and bacteria! 11:45
Protect the vulnerable!
Except people with hearing disabilities, language/learning disabilities, new speakers of a language, children learning language, the neurodiverse and autistic...
Policy made by ultra-privileged people who are not affected by it in the least.
@@ThePbag AND DON'T FORGET MILLIONS OF "VULNERABLE" PEOPLE who could easily die or develop permanent disabilities due the spread of contagious, dangerous pathogens ... since 'staying alive' is normally tops the lists of THINGS most sane rational people want to avoid.
I worked in retail during mask mandates and it was torture for old people. They would tell me that they couldn’t breath, I had a get a chair and sit one who was going to faint.
They couldn’t hear me talk or lip read what I as saying and they couldn’t catch their breath while asking what they needed and found it very hard to talk. One was terrified of the security in the mall, it was horrendous .
I listen to your talks at 1.5 to 1.75 the speed and damn do you sound angry at that speed. Good job. Anyone who knows the quality of Cochrane studies must realize this study is putting the nail in masking’s coffin.
A prolific tweeter mentioned "a guy that rants and raves about RCT or nothing". I laughed out loud, knowing he meant VP. I appreciate your adherence to quality data acquisition... without which we have less than zero chance of solving complex problems in medicine. (We... I'm no doctor... I mean society at large)
You are spot on...the general public finds it easier to follow the credentialed expert than question and inquire about certainty of those individuals conclusions.
I still see people driving solo wearing masks. It is a behavior I have always been curious about.
Virtue signaling run wild. Think how many people on the road see how virtuous they are protecting everyone, or no one. Doesn’t matter, they’re better than you.
It's a Talisman
Speaking to this subject on odd behaviors - I read a Dear Abby letter in the paper during the height of the pandemic. The wife was worried because her husband could not remove his mask. Even during sex, the husband would wear his mask. There is definitely a sickness going around with mask wearing.
@@tonycable4560 How would he eat his pastrami sandwich at the same time with the mask on too?
@@richtes LOL - I would think that he would have to do it in private without anyone or anything around that he finds terrifying. Then again, I guess he could have starved to death.
Thank you, Vinay. Respect your analysis and wisdom!
Once again balanced discussion and well reasoned.
This was a monologue not a discussion, perhaps a diatribe.
@@mballer this
@@mballer those whose side's position is being represented hear it as a dialogue... 😉
Dr. Prasad is one of the best of the experts that waded through this pandemic. He is eloquent and he speaks in terms that any of us can actually understand. Bless you, Dr. Prasad!
Well most of what he said.
Oh boy the Covidians are going to freak out with this one!!! Thanks for presenting reality to us Dr Prasad - love your videos ❤
Thanks Vinay. I don't think for one minute that masks work. I am not masking anymore. I'm done. I wore a mask only because it was mandated, and even didn't wear one sometimes when it was mandated, when I was feeling brave. I'm not stupid. I'm a retired RN. I have had experience working on an Autologous BMT unit at British Columbia Cancer Agency.
Louise, I'm not a medic guy but a lowly construction worker using pf2-pf3 masks for over 25 years and I have heard so many (mandatory) lessons about masks that from the beginning and from my personal experience with particles it was clear to me that those masks CAN NOT stop viruses,even when they are attached to the clump consistent of water vapor molecules,airborne particles and a few viruses. That cluster is still MUCH SMALLER than 2 micron gaps between fibres in pf2 masks. Yes some may stick but the end result is same -- 90%+ will pass through and that only for perfectly fitted,short-time worn high quality pf2 (N95) masks. And from my observations those cases are less than 1%.
@@ms-jl6dl I think much of it is related to fear, ignorance and virtue signaling.
@@ms-jl6dl Thank you, you have more experience with masks than most medical people. I am a retired nurse as well. What I was taught about masks long ago is that it protects patients from bacteria, not viruses. That is useful in surgery but not much more.
it was never about safety but about control and compliance. it was a brilliant tactic to see who was "good" and who was" bad" and deserving of punishment and shame.
And if you use medical services now, there's a code for unvaccinated. They are building their database.
The COVID response was a tragedy. I wouldn't blame kids from 5 to 18 years of age if they absolutely hated every adult for the rest of their life.
Blame the Boomers. They’ve been in charge. They’re the ones who put this country in $34 Trillion of debt ($100k for every man, woman and child in the US). The Boomers are the ones who shut everything down to protect themselves, forced everyone to wear masks, and instituted vax mandates. Very selfish, the “Me” generation.
You forget they become adults too
I hope they hate government for the rest of their lives. That would be great.
To believe children in this day and age are traumatized by wearing a simple mask is laughable. It that was the case, the day after Halloween most American children would in therapy and never want to go trick or treating again ... or go to their doctor's office for fear they might see a human wearing a mask.
The only trauma they might absorb were the crazy fears instilled by the adults around them.
100 to 200 years ago kids had to deal with watching their siblings or parents get sick and die from communicable illnesses at a young age that were not yet treatable or understood ...the kind of "real" problems that would justifiably traumatize them for the rest of their lives.
@@ridgebriar17 says the guy making excuses for masks. Why are you defending idiotic policy ? And why do you think the argument is kids were traumatized?
My 3 year old grandson is WAY behind in his speech development because of the required masking in his daycare. And to know that masks did nothing to prevent the spread of viruses, but definitely damaged his speech makes me very angry!
I'm sorry his parents didn't love him enough to protect him from it
@@ThesmartestTem I can't argue with you on this one. I'm a sad grandma.
My 4 year old grand nephew is in speech therapy. It helps.
Every kid that age I know minus the homeschooled ones are all having the same issues...
If ignorance is bliss, y’all should be super happy. The kids are probably injured by all the vaccine bio weapons they’ll be given too… I’d probably try to enjoy them while they can and be ready for the grandkids to enjoy f’d up health… I’m sure the pharma Nazis have more drugs for them… just make sure the kids are pumped full of the 60 plus vaccine doses they need to make pharma wealthy and you and your family suffer. Y’all will def be burning in hell… ignorance is no excuse. The info was out there. You need to face the fact that our grand children are the victims and there’s not a damn thing you can do. I’ve lost everyone trying … don’t bother.
According to my second edition Nurses assistant book chapter 17 Infectious diseases. I got it in 1980. Surgical masks must be changed every 30 minutes If it gets wet changed Immediately. These are the Paper ones not N 95's They actually showed pictures.
It also needs to be sterile and not made from used t-shirts. With what we currently know, there is zero evidence to support everyone on the planet wearing masks 24/7.
All the nurse sheep need to be retrained.
@@paulbarclay4114 That's the true purpose of masks, to teach us to obey.
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“You need to make an intervention that works in REALITY, not in NARNIA.” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We were at the NIH building 10 last summer for a study. In every public space there were flyers and posters that read "Masks Save Lives." I was grateful my loved one could get care in the study but looking around, it was obvious why no masking studies were done. The posters were printed and the message was set in stone.
Interestingly Japan and south Korea were the best compliant mask wearing countries. On the 27th june 2022 they had 9500 new daily covid cases by the 27th July 2022 they were having over 200,000 new daily covid cases. North Korea had a similar explosion of cases. If those masks actually worked its extremely difficult to see from these mask compliant countries.
There was a scientific publication from Sweden (although none of the authors' names seemed Swedish?) claiming that the Eastern European countries that had mandatory masking had much lower Covid death rates than Western Europe. Which was true for the time interval covered (early 2020). However now Eastern Europe has among the highest cumulative Covid death rates (even higher than the US! ) Of course the US bioweapons lab in Ukraine may be involved.
Southeast Asians traditionally wear masks during "bug" outbreaks. It is a social/ cultural, not a medical thing. I remember a Singapore public health official talking about how Swine flu raced through their population despite their masks. Though that was relatively benign, they and other South Asian countries set up cordon sanitaires at their borders for epidemics which minimizes entry of Covid. It worked well for a year or two, but eventually the more infectious SARS-CoV2 variants escaped containment into a Covid-naive population (though many were vaccinated). Fortunately the Omicron variants are not so dangerous, only killing the most Elderly and Seriously Ill (always targeted by Covid), and as China discovered, at some point the virus cannot be stopped. But it seems over now, with the vast majority of SE Asians surviving with natural infection immunity and relatively low Covid death rates compared to the West.
It seems like these interventions only delay the inevitable. Dr. Cambell muses the possibility that the covid shot may actually cause the virus to mutate for self preservation.
Vinay, love you brother. I was watching you a lot in 2021. You speak the truth and reinforced the conclusions I came to early on through reading studies and talking to my wife (an osha safety professional who taught masking). I watched this video and made some observations. First and most important, you aren’t wrong and you haven’t been wrong. I have appreciated you shouting the warnings. I will say this. You are looking worn out and it may be time to move on. Anyone who hasn’t gotten the message at this point, isn’t gonna change their mind. Take some time away, you deserve it. I say this with the utmost respect for you.
I shared you previous video with my brother. In response, he shared "Unmasking the mask studies" by Kollepara et al on the NIH government website.
Among the sources cited was WEBmd, the CDC, the WHO, the New York Times, the Finance times, etc.
What kind of scientific study cites WEBmd and newspapers? WTF??
I love how passionate you are in this, PREECH! Big thanks from this nurse.
“There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask. When you’re in the middle of an outbreak, wearing a mask might make people feel a little bit better and it might even block a droplet, but it’s not providing the perfect protection that people think that it is. And, often, there are unintended consequences - people keep fiddling with the mask and they keep touching their face.”
- Dr. Anthony Fauci
Ah yes! Quoting Mr Falsey himself. Nobody cares if he said it or not, really. Nobody seems to care that the public health experts bricked this one badly!
Before he sold his soul.
He definitely said it.
Surreal how many pepple still followed this clown regardless of the numerous 180s he pulled...
Dude having a girlfriend that think this demon is somehow helping humanity drives me nuts
Thank you, doctor! Please speak up to the UC system who make me wear a mask in a tube for a 3 hour MRI regularly! It’s torturous and cruel especially for someone with claustrophobia.!
Omg...that's horrible!! I had one a year ago and luckily I could take it off. Otherwise I wouldn't have made it 2 minutes in that tube. I've had other tests where I just said "hey I'm not wearing this face diaper during this test. I took it off and luckily they didn't say anything. Just so ridiculous!
Trying to explain this to people is exhausting. I don't have to prove that there isn't an invisible flying spaghetti monster in the sky. However, as there is no evidence that there is one, there is no reason for me to believe that there is.
I spend hours Daly in car homes through the entire of this. And the degrees of paranoia was crazy. Common sense entirely out of the window at the expense of the residents and relatives.
Thank you Dr. Prasad. I am grateful for the information and for the time you take to do this.
I work in a hospital. I wear a surgical mask in general. I have to wear a PAPR. with covid patients. I am now covid positive x 2 in January 2022 and 2023. I can't be issued a PAPR unless I have a specific patient covid + patient.
I also think it is ridiculous to have to wear a PAPR in the general population for Covid now that has devolved into a really bad cold. I still can't taste anything. It's very surreal, but I have not died.
Will also rail against the policy that I am forced to take time off work for 5 days without pay though I have been afebrile for 4 days.
The hospital only tests symptomatic patients. I am positive that I got covid at work providing patient care, or just walking through the hospital cafeteria.
Vinay, as a fellow physician frustrated with how scientific medicine has fallen on deaf ears, I appreciate your voice in the wilderness. Keep it up!
My favorite has been a hospital requiring masks, but the OB/GYN office INSIDE the hospital let us take them off while we were in their area. When we walked back through the hospital to leave, we had to put it back on.
It just constantly siphons trust out of medical institutions daily.
I wish I had discovered you earlier. More people need to hear you.
Honestly, me and my wife are feeling the consequences with our 7 yr old, we live in NY and he didn't know what school was like without a mask. Now that mask are off, he's getting sick all the time. It totally screwed up his immune system. These people should get sued, so that this never happened again! Silliness!! Thanks for speaking the truth
Yes - masks ARE harmful. Prasad hit this response out of the park - except for when he said masks aren’t harmful.
You're the ones who subjected him to it. I took great lengths to protect my children from this madness including pulling them from school to homeschool and getting together with like minded parents to keep things as normal as possible. My 5 and 8 year old boys are healthy, robust, and not stunted in any way. Blame yourself for being a coward and not doing your ONE JOB as a parent. If little ol' suburban Detroit me could do it, you could have.
The way you describe this attributes getting sick all the time now with masks off (& previously not getting sick with mask wearing). There are other explanations. Plus, mask wearing is not the only thing that changed.
Was it the mask, or some other intervention? If the masks don't work, then it seems unlikely that it would have been preventing his immune system from being exercised while he was wearing it. What else happened that might have screwed up his immune system? Lockdowns and limited social interaction? Experimental drugs?
Don't forget who sent the child to those rats.
Wow! I love the “don’t put your heart and sole in some therapy… you know what that is when we can’t let go it’s the sins of shame and pride and that turns into another sin of anger and control and arrogance.
Thanks for being so brave to say this 2 and a half years after most rational people already knew this. I bet you could have said this a long time ago...but the social-political climate wasn't quite right for you to dip your toes in. Thanks.
Good one Steven. Next he'll "discover" that covid mRNA shots "were not properly tested or developed".
Thank you so much for telling it how it is and doing great research and sharing it to common people like me.
I've shared many of your videos to family and friends so they too can be more informed and learn from you.
I did fit testing for masks for years in healthcare, when it was suggested that cloth or simple masks were the rage, I just laughed (to myself) at all the people wearing them..and don't even get me started on the 6ft apart bs
Yeah I had to go in for a fit test, the lady made sure I had my mask on before and after the tests. She was positively terrified. I was thinking, Lady you do this for a living and you STILL bought the propaganda.
If masks don't ever work, what is the fit testing for?
@@karenvanhook6748 fit testing assures that the mask does work. A mask is supposed to be changed frequently because it's integrity will be lost due to activity, breathing- moisture. A well fitted mask restricts breathing with minimal exertion . PAPR respirator systems are a vast improvement for breathing purification but are big, bulky, restrict vision, expensive & just weird looking. Do what ever makes you more comfortable. I just won't to be told what I have to do when I know it's incorrect
Same people who’ve repeated “there’s no evidence to suggest we are wrong” throughout the worst of the pandemic
It’s always good to have a laugh out loud moment when you wake up.
“you’ve got to make an intervention that works in reality, not in Narnia”
Classic.
Keep the truth coming. Retired md.
Love watching your videos. You are the Semmelweis of our times.
Dr. Prasad, you have grossly underestimated our enemy! We are dealing with very educated and competent individuals. They did not forget about their training and experience! They were driven by an agenda, power and financial incentives! Never underestimate your enemy!
If they made a policy to wear a mask in public except when you are eating or drinking, you know very well that is political science.
My weekly dose of sanity
Fear sells.
Thank you for standing up for truth , rational & logic! May God bless you with even more wisdom & discernment 🙏🏻
Prove you aren’t a murderer….. you can’t. This is the reason burdens of proof are the accusers responsibility to prove.
Evidence at this point is not going to work. You can't reason people out of a position they were never reasoned into in the first place.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us.
Life is difficult and we live with variables.
Thankful for natural resilient immune systems.
This dude is pretty sharp and I enjoy his analogies. Makes for funny videos while ate all losing any faith we had in Medical professionals.
Thank you, Dr. Prasad. Please keep the good fight going...
My favorite argument,"we've never had a RCT for parachutes, but we know they work". Pandemic of bad analogies lol. The biggest gripe I've encountered from pro-maskers about the Cochrane Study is, "the disclaimer said lack of adherence to mask mandates could have skewed the results".
Mosquitoes vs chain link fence. We don’t need studies to tell us what we already know.
"lack of adherence to mask mandates" - That is the reality and part of what the study confirms. Yes, people are going to not do what they are told, so this also proves why mask mandates don't work.
Also, people have fallen from great heights without a parachute and invariably died, and many have used a chute and lived. So there is evidence
@@TTony-tu6dm There are many people who also died with a parachute, because they didn't use it properly or it didn't work correctly. I am not sure what you are saying here. Also, jumping out of a plane is a choice 99.99% of the time, so it cannot be compared to a pandemic, where it is forced upon the population. It is the human psyche that everyone seems to overlook as to why something like mandates don't work.
Thank you for continuing to do such thorough work and sharing it with us. You are appreciated. I followed you all through the pandemic and found your information valuable and loved to see the evolution of the message along the way.
good to see you again. superbe comments. have followed you for years now. grateful for your continued search for clarity and your assessments. - dr. v.k.
Dr. Prasad, you are spot on. As someone grounded in statistics it galls the hell out of me to see all of the proclamations that have come our way over the last three years without a shred of solid evidence. Will we learn from our mistakes? There is always hope.
Thank you. Great video. They did the exact same thing during the Spanish Flu. Everyone started masking (often under government compulsion to do so) in public. We never conducted any cluster randomized controlled trials to see if it worked. Retroactive studies showed it likely didn't and for the next century masking to prevent the spread of airborne respiratory viruses was mocked as primitive psuedo-science until COVID emerged and we did the same thing again and still failed to conduct cluster RCT trials.
You should know that you make my day, every time I listen to you! I agree and appreciate your viewpoints, personality, knowledge, topics and logical thinking. Regarding the events which took place, I have info to share (outside this comment thread) which makes things significantly more interesting. There's a lot that they didn't say about many things. I've waited to try to prove this with legal council, so...one day soon, we'll all find out. 😉 Thanks for your channel and content. I subscribed a while back because you were someone who values critical thinking and evaluating (verses just discussing medical information). You make a person think outside the box and take a systems thinker approach, so...thank you indeed. Society needs more discussions like these. Nice work 👍
My points on the masks: Cloth/disposable is great for certain occasional needs, but a not a solution for virus protection or generally good overall. N95 or better requires training, medical fit testing and clearance otherwise a no go by law. I'm confused how everyone is saying that they didn't have studies on the exact topics (aerosolized vs not for cloth to above N95), because they discussed this and showed study results over various airborne viruses. I can present my case on this to you or legal council. Regarding safety, some people do indeed experience issues on various levels. Hence fit testing/clearance, but even a cloth can be too restrictive for certain individuals. If limited physical activity, discomfort is minimized for most, but they should of had studies of various health/lifestyle types utilizing a cloth mask with physical excursion for hours...and compare that to what they knew for decades and recent info. To mandate a cloth on citizens without true individual health considerations, is a contradiction to what they say to be for. It's a face diaper, demoralizing, separates society, creates mental abuse in numerous ways and a tyrannical measures approach (masking to control and create physiological affects). If I factor in how trauma to brain or body can affect DNA for yourself and proceeding generations, makes this a dangerous slope. It's a loss of freedom, again if mandated for dictatorship means. I completely understand people's fears and concerns, but don't subject everyone to a one-size fits all approach when it can or does contradict health, logic, laws, or past knowledge. It does catch larger particled mucus, but if aerosolized then its like a fly going through a fence. Subjecting healthy immune systems to limited oxygen and rebreathing carbon dioxide is an issue (I spoke with hundreds of random teenagers and adults, with most saying they can't breathe normal or well in it, some past out, etc.). Bacterial growth occurred on those that wore it regularly, because of moisture buildup (even on those with disposable masks or daily washed cloths). About half of society wore it incorrectly (and of those I asked, half did it intentionally and the other half really had the concept of how to wear it all wrong). Then there's those who wore it correctly, but kept placing their masks on everything or worse, dropping it on the disgusting floors/streets, picked it up and put it back on!!! Oh wait, then the waste (masks littered everywhere on the city grounds, beaches, waterways, etc., the activists should blame DoD/NIH/CDC for that lol).
Finally....YES YES YES TO MORE RANDOMIZED TRIALS 👏
Ok.... I think my comment was long enough for a short video 😂🤦. Thanks for the banter lol.
Thanks for your careful attention to this issue of real knowledge acquisition in the medical sciences. Thank you for being an advocate of good scientific practice. Thanks for caring.
I wish I were your student :)! You are so smart , I like your show very much. Thank you Doctor .
"Works" is too blunt/vague of a word for this. The real question is "how long". From what I've observed from multiple people, and read of other experiences, probably in the 15 minute range. A friend wore a super tight certified N95 mask that was so tight that it imprinted a ring around his nose and face. He was in a 10,000 sqft office with only a few people spaced out in the building, and he was infected within an hour. If it fails under these circumstances, there's no way it can work as a lifestyle.
Nice to see you coming around. 1/10,000 will need to be abandoned in the future but you are doing well. I wouldn't be surprised if you came out in support of vitamin d in the future. Etc.
Good one. He even might dare one day to criticize putting infected patients into nursing homes causing massacres all over those wonderful Democrats-run states. That's to heavy for him to deal with,let's stick with masks and six feet.
Tremendous monologue, you are a great communicator.
In a world where we preach evidence based medicine it would seem that the absence of evidence would be pretty conclusive. Especially when people are trying like hell to find a shred of evidence.
Great video and explanation Doc, keep it up!!! ❤
I snorted at the Narnia line. 😂
Thanks for addressing this and sharing your perspective and practices when approaching medicine and health care.
I appreciate how much you have adjusted your stance as the information has evolved as opposed to digging in your heels as many have in similar situations.
Tech note: you could use a good light in front of you here
If Trump said the earth was a sphere most geophysicists would turn into flat earthers. The Trump effect holds true for most medical experts as well.
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Those who claim, must prove.
Full stop
If this hadn't become politicized, people would worry so much about these results.
I appreciate your honest here. The issue for me is the lack of studies, combined with mandates, or mask/vaccine requirements. How is that still a thing!?
Your analogy to a sunken-costs war is apt.
There has been a decided lack of curiosity into what truly works and what truly doesn't. You are right that many people relied on their own prejudices against Trump instead of relying on corroborated evidence and valid studies. The hard part for me is seeing that even some scientists did the exact same thing, as I witnessed games being played with the way certain studies were apparently designed and implemented to output desired results. It's flabbergasting to see that the desire to truly grasp reality is far less important to some people than other motivations.