To reinforce this fact, in Ep1, when David first gets back to his apartment after the accident, there are are a few shots with this uniform pants and shirt neatly folded; presumably done by his mom.
I get that this show is fast paced, but it’s incredible that these two literally have 0 idea what’s going on. I haven’t even played the game and I knew what was going on within the first episode.
I think the fact that he trust her is due to his situation. He is alone, his mother just died, he have a huge money issue and of couse he is a teen with tons of hormones. So when a beautiful girl appears, its kind with you ang give you a way to make money he just went with it. As for her "betrayal" you will figure it out next episodes why she did it but keep in mind in Night City you cant really trust anyone beside yourself. I mean there are people whose "job" is to kidnap random people kill them and stole their cyberware. So yeah even if she betrayed him so fast randomly its not a strange thing, instead thats quite expected to be honest, thats night city, why someone should be gentle with you to begin with? Its not like they know each others or they were friends, she just flirted to get something, not that strange.
I also think that it makes sense for him to trust her, not only by the point you started but because of the set of events: They meet They do a partnership They succeed and get paid He gets sick and she gets him help She rescues him like 2 times And then she invites him to her house to chill. The story might be told a little fast, but it all makes sense.
I don't understand the confusion at the end of the episode. She obviously betrayed him in order to give the implant to those specific people. The dude at the end even says the implant is his. In fact, a lot of things you're asking questions about are either already explained, or expected to be understood because it's not very complicated. He trusts Lucy because he dropped out, has no parents, and has no idea what to do with himself. As for the "male gaze" stuff... lol
She could have literally just taken him to those guys at any point though? The purpose of the day together is so she knows he can use the devistan but that’s plot reason not character reason
10:15 If you are referring to the scene in the ambulance. Why would Lucy trust the paramedic to cut her in on the deal? By calling in her own deal she can make more profit, plus less risk because she would probably call people she already knows. 12:15 "Why would he trust her?" Probably because she only person that he could talk informally with? Maybe because they spent the day doing jobs, she saved him from getting his implant stolen, and she took him to a doc instead of just leaving him on the street? Why did agree to go to Lucy's place? David's got nothing else going on. What's waiting for him at home? The events in ep1 put him in a weird headspace and he wants to do something anything. You can also say, from a character perspective, it show his naivete. 15:20 "I don't really care about the people..." Welcome to Night City, you'll fit right in.
Am alone in thinking David's circumstances aren't that off putting? Coming from similar ones myself may have something to do with it, but I thought the show did a wonderful job portraying what life is like for those less fortunate, whether they be fictional or real.
To elaborate, you can't just fish for the chips with your fingers. Like with some sim cards/SD cards (even old CD's) there's usually an ejection system built in. Lucy is just cranking that shit up to spit the chips at a faster than normal rate. Much like runners are able to screw with optical implants to cause blindness, fuck up the immune system with the spinal implants, or just cause cybernetics to overheat causing the user to self combust.
@@NerdyNightly now days if some one want to hack someone else he do something that other person don't understand that in that time in future this technic will be nothing
You have to have lived in a bad neighborhood to understand why a kid would have a way into/out of the house that avoids most of the people in the complex. Even if it made me have to jump in garbage, that was one that I immediately got.
The video wrapper is meant to evoke a condom wrapper. They're sharing an actual moment of intimacy, compared to the distance and crudeness of everything similar we've seen so far
Media vs game. They enforce different rules. The songs do have a copyright. Game makers tend not to chase people for it as they feel all the content on top adds value to their product. TV and Movies studios are not as forgiving and you can only get it wrong 3 times on TH-cam before they delete your channel. Anime tends not to chase over seas violators due to the difficulty of international law but they literally arrest copyright violators in Japan. This one is distributed by Netflix who might be less kind than videogame companies.
Here is a question: if the dude is day away from being 18, is it still a problem? What about older generation experiencing sex with each other when they were 14-17? Is it about numbers specifically? If not, then is it about maturity? Cause those two seem mature enough for me to do what they want together. This show gives you the reality check, when people and "kids" live in anarchic world where "childhood" doesnt exist and sexual experiences lost their value, the genuine show of affection between two young people is about the most pure thing this world can offer. Live fast, die young.
Absurd, arbitrary american puritanism where childen are sacrosanct and childhood is defined strictly by a completely arbitrary number of days you've been alive.
@@fell5514 It's funny because they put common people in jail for their arbitrary rules but the elites in power are complete pedophile slave owners that all participate in the very thing they make against the laws
Ok so a couple things, while I must admit the show is fast paced and could definetly benefit from fleshing out the characters more, David's already a pretty relatable protagonist in terms of what we know about him. I mean think about it, there are plenty of kids that were in episode 1 David's position. Don't like school, don't have a passion so they don't have that thing they're good at, which if I remember correctly you guys said in the first episode you hoped he would have had another trait to make him more relatable. But thats reality for a lot of teenagers. They hate school, don't have anything they're good at, so they just sort of live day to day which is what David was doing before his mom died. Playing video games, going to school and kinda just bumming around. As for Lucy's betrayal, thats just to be expected. Its a shady city, David made the mistake of trusting the first good looking girl to talk to him, especially right after the trauma of losing his mom. It's both understandable and realistic, don't trust people you meet off the street.
I can tell you guys didn't play the game much. And if you did you missed the world that was created. The world of Cyberpunk is a unforgiving place filled with riches, despair, depravity & pain. Friends are hard to come by and survival in this world takes as much dumb luck as it does skill & resources. Worrying about the age of the characters for sexual purposes is pretty funny considering you're not worried that she set up that 17 year old boy to be killed for that implant. Regardless...thanks for the reaction
I think it's a western thing. Sex, sexiness, objectification, etc is uncomfortable but somehow violence is acceptable and commonplace. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Also I think it takes a while for viewers to pick up that Night City is a major character in the series/game/IP.
@@Findail As a westerner myself, you're probably right. I'm just glad I don't fall into that stereotype. I'm very thankful to be open minded & able to see a bigger picture. Them talking about how the show is aimed at guys cause of a few butt shots is pretty funny as well. It's like they never heard of lesbians or bisexuals.
@@NerdyNightly Good to know. Do the lingering butt shots bother you? If so, why? Does it take away from the story? Or is just an easy thing to notice & point out? Not trying to be rude. Just curious about your takes on the situation.
It feels like you guys are actively trying to not like this show. You make assumptions and say the story doesn’t make sense when if you just watched the rest it will explain things.
Yeah honestly, the show isn’t perfect but they’re gonna sit and tell me they’re finding all these terrible things my cynical ass didn’t see myself? Nah they’re just grasping at straws trying to find problems with it when the show is one of the best things to come out in a while. Again it isn’t perfect but I’ll say it’s damn close! Anyway if it isn’t for them just drop it and say it wasn’t, not this trying to convince everyone it’s bad when it isn’t
It's a lot of missed detail and presumption of how a dystopian society would work like ours but with more guns. The nitpicks might be just to fill airtime, as the show is dense but if you aren't the type to pick up details the first few episodes are just setting the stage. I do find it annoying when they're nitpicking details which they got wrong or missed exposition which was not that subtle. But that's the internet, getting it wrong due to missed details means 40 fanboys will jump down your throat.
@@NerdyNightly In the game there was someone that had harmful software slotted in. It even shielded the person's signal from alerting Trauma Team.. Who would come in and kill anyone stopping them from giving their client medical care.
Goals are a luxury for people who have their needs already met. This is Night City, you're worrying about so many things that are practically common place in Night City. It's not a forgiving place and it doesn't give a shit how old, young, male or female, wtv it's residents are. I can never understand western "sensibilities" when it comes to works of fiction, even if it's appropriate for the setting and for a mature audience. Sex is so uncomfortable, but ultra-violance even at kids is acceptable. I also don't get how you can agree with sex themes for something like Euphoria, but somehow then think it's out of character for a dystopian setting like Night City. But I get it, it's pref. Fair 'nuff. Consider this as a friendly heads up tho, you might find yourselves having (more) friction with the show once Becca is introduced.🤣
The big guy literally said "That implant is mine, I am taking it back" you gotta remember that he found that implant through his mom's stuff. I do think if you are gonna watch the show either way to do reactions. But if the show doesn't do it for you and you don't want to keep watching at all do not feel forced to keep making videos,
I suppose it's harder to digest the content if you're extremely unfamiliar with cyberpunk settings and this sort of compressed storytelling as a whole. Every scene and sentence presents you with a ton of information. Nobody is going to hold your hand for an exposition dump of the whole setting and what each individual set piece represents. They'll never sit you down and take sixteen minutes to explain what Choom and Preem mean, what Brain Dances are, what Cyberpsychosis fully entails, why living in Night City is a struggle, or who each cast member is and what they're about. You get all this information and more through implication, context and visual design. This is storytelling in motion and it's magnificently done.
I think the girl can "snatch" the chips as her skill and he just picks it up with his lightning speed. The show is really unique, not sure if you will like how it progresses but I think it was actually pretty good and just a very unique experience (which is a good trait in itself) And I think you are completely right. The episodes are not "episodes" really, a true Netflix problem. But if you watch them in the binge method I think it clicks.
@@calvintyler9281 A fresh faced kid joins a social group / subculture with the help of an older male role model (who will most likely die) and falls in love with a girl in said social group with dark, generic past (she will also probably die). Literally paint by numbers archetypes. Throw in the designated loli for the pedophiles and you got all the generic anime tropes. Plotwise the story is alot weaker than alot of what I've seen. You got the staple McGuffin that everyone wants but the problem is the protagonist already has it so it puts the whole narrative on the back foot. It's makes the character growth become the A plot but the character growth is pretty generic. The B plot heists also aren't particularly clever or well executed. Hey, at least it's pretty to look at.
@@lurkingposter the protagonist having the macguffin is essentially the ring from lord of the rings. It’s a good subversion of a macguffin. His strongest ability is harming him physically, mentally, and drawing him undue attention. I don’t think these characters are made to reflect their own value, but to prove the themes of the story, and show how horrible this city is. Cliche is fine. Inescapable, really.
6:00 I think we need to get away from the sexualization of a great ass and realize that it's an extremely important connection between the spine and the legs and is a focal point in our weight distribution. Maxed out glutes means more than aesthetics. It's good posture, less impact on your legs and your feet don't get sore as often. The more defined, the more healthier you are lol. it's kind of bizarre.
3:43 He passes through there cause the actual stairs is barricaded with garbage with a troll jerk guarding it and probably making people pay a toll to pass through…😥😖
It sounds like you guys aren't feeling the show at all. I hope guy to the left decides to watch it on his own time. It's a nice story the further you get into it. Maybe just not reaction worthy for you two.
The world in the show and game has humans that enhance their bodies for survival to the point that they barely look human, even the shots of the girl's behind, you can see línes in her legs meaning she has leg and or skin augmentation, IMO, in that world modesty is lost or trivial, when you can be killed at any time in a city full of cybernatically enhanced Gangs, survival is all that matters
On Bills: There was a quick scene with David was looking through his mums accounts. He noted she had a oddly lot of money in there and she had been saying she was going to get the money for the upgrade of his wreath. Next episode you'll find out why she had that money. That money is what settled the rent and paid the washer. Hint: Related to why she had a implant in a bag.
@@RazielBlair Japanese media does have a different frame of reference for it. Anime and Manga have an issue where sales are driven a lot by super fans who who engage with fan service a lot. In Japan a lot more of the profits from media are made from direct sales of Blu-ray and merch. So they focus more on pleasing super fans versus just drawing in general viewership. If they shot the male character that way many men get uncomfortable about it. Think about peoples opinions about JoJo which does the male gaze to men.
Why did they made it sound like crediting Franz Ferdinand is like crediting some unknown artist. Lol. Maybe Im too old to remember them as a major artist
Not every show will give you a perfect episode 1, most of the best shows has episode 1's that gives you a ride and some questions and the rest actually fleshes stuff out
I can't make you like the show obviously but I do know that a lot of praise and love has been surrounding this anime, Studio trigger has done a phenomenal job making it, so I recommend you watch it till completion.
The girl Lucy is the one who was ejecting their little ports in the back of their necks on the train she's basically a hacker and she hacked while david snagged all the chips
My 2 cents is a reaction video that is multiple episodes or episodes 3-10. I agree that this is an anime that seems intended to be binged. I finished it in to days and did feel connected to the characters. And the slots are what make it possible for a net runner to fry someone’s brains. The slots have mini software that store our memories and personal data is how I thought of it which would make them value enough to steal.
I'd like to see more of what you two think about this show. It's fun to see how non-anime fans react to anime shows. It really puts things into perspective.
In Japanese anime, 17 is the default age of most protagonists. FMA is a good example of it. In the 80's it was more like 13 or 14. Japan is much more liberal with sexual stuff happening to teens than American movies or series, and it's been like this for decades. It's a cultural thing. No need to get flustered about it.
In the first episode we saw David watch the memo (brain dance) of a psycho kill several police man in horrific ways and get kill and you are questioning if he is to young for sexual content. Tell me you are from the US without telling me that you are from the US.
People already explained but basically everyone has USBs their necks, a slot for normal personal info, and an extra slot incase someone wanted to show you something. Lucy was “hacking” then out of their heads and David was able to slow mo grab them
11:06 They do mention that in the first ep that he'd a straight A student. When you're in a braindance you're unaware of the outside world to easy to get jumped (He's wearing the sandy so can easy escape if chased otherwise). idk seems like they aren't into anime as a genera bc as animation goes this is pretty much in the same style and even top tier for that matter. Maybe they haven't watched much anime before so will have to get used to it. Might be why they feel so disconnected and confused to a point where they criticize at every step and miss dialogue and plot points. Like its supposed to be 2077 in a very futuristic world and they wanna know the specifics of each cyberware and how it works lol Also he said he spent a lot of time in the game - but sounds like he hasn't spent enough lol ..how does he not know what a sandevistan is or armored skin, BDs, all the types of hacking, the hyper-sexualized and extreme capitalist society in game (Sex sells), etc. But also since body implants are so prominent, people lose touch with todays standards of "shame" bc it's most of the time not even their body. All in all so far seems like they're just hate watching ahah, hope they like it more in the following eps. The show is more about the world than the characters. David is a story about the life of the lower class in this world trying to be better in his own way lol. But David's a relatable character to a lot of people either way, especially the less privileged.
the more I watched this show, the more I cared about everything and everyone in it. It just kept building, rather than hooking me all at once, it was more gradual. It definitely feels designed to be binged in 1-3 sessions, rather than watched episodically, so releasing it as an episodic show really does feel like a weird choice.
To be fair it's a Japanese show and the age of consent in Japan is 16. Was 13 for a long time so it's something Americans will feel weird about but it's not our media.
They not prepared for this this is a incredible anime sad it’s only 10 episodes tho they could of made it way longer but it would end the same with way
I do think you should give it one or two more episodes before you decide whether or not to continue; I think the show improves with every episode and the opening is definitely rough. I personally would love to see you continue.
Hey thanks for the review!! I have seen the whole series multiple times! And like I said before it is not for everyone. I really appreciate the effort tho!! If you keep going you may like it more! As others have said, these "episodes" are DEFINITELY "vignettes of a single-thread larger story" and not really viewable individually. And... unfortunately if you don't play the video game or the TTRPG or understand the "base lore" it might be a little confusing, because, as David pointed out, the plot moves very very quickly and they... don't take time to explain very much. But... having played the living crap out of the video game, it took me a couple run-throughs to grok the whole thing. ... haha sorry I keep editing more on this comment... Edgerunners does not "build a world". Edgerunners is "a story in the world that is built by the Cyberpunk 2077 video game." And, yeah, it's basically a 200 minute (3H 20 M) movie.
it's worth pointing out that NC is not technically an American city. NC is a free economic zone in the Independent state of California and is not part of the New United States of America, or NUSA. Latest update to the game includes a bit where you can sign a petition to get NC into the NUSA.
You guys are way past this... but Lucy was ejecting the chips. She is a netrunner. Her skill is hacking. She was remotely ejecting the chips while also manipulating each target to not feel it. She normally does this one person at a time but with David's help she can just eject like 5 chips at once and he grabs them all in a second.
The title is mistake, Cyberpunk Edgerunners is made by Studio Trigger and CD Projekt Red, not Netflix, they only release on platform and maybe co-financed project
Arcane was pretty slow in the beginning too but it was great. This show really picks up around ep 3 with episodes 6 and 10 being in a league of their own.
Just want to say you guys need to stop reading to far into everything lmao. It's a cartoon about a fantasy cyber world. Stop trying to have a reason or question for every little thing
At this point there is no plot yet. David trusted Lucy because he was desperate. The plot will unfold as David finds his group but at this point he is desperate to latch onto anything because he just lost everything.
17 child 18 he is a grown up... Dont stuck on this please! This is Night city. 50 years from now. Not too long ago childs was getting merried for political alliances :D
David and Lucy aren't watching a video, they're experiencing a BrainDance together ^^; If you played the game (which you said you have), you've experienced a few of these too! :) Basically it's putting a completely different location or person directly into your brain's synapses so anything you experience in there will translate to your brain as if you really experienced it. It's why when you're watching the braindance tutorial in the game, with the shoplifter getting shot at the end, V cries out in terror as they wake up, because despite the amount of blockers Judy puts in, dying still is a very visceral experience.
Because that ARE her guys. She's acting like a honey bot and luring him into a trap. The whole deal was to see what he was all about and lead him into a trap because THEY want his implant.
Watching you two try to make sense of these two episodes is painful. The first episode was meant to show how sh tty his life was. Also. the girl is like his age.
thanks for the reaction, you definitely need to continue, it will be interesting to see your evolution and point of view changing towards the situation and characters. I agree that it feel like a movie in 10 part more than really a series, and the first 3 episodes need to be watched in one sitting for you to really start to appreciate the show I guess, and if you don't remembered the world of the game well and night city well you will miss a few things but that said it's worth watching it regardless. Plus I really think you need to watch the show considering it's not our world, it's cyberpunk 2077 world, you can't project the mores of our society in 2022 in everything you see in the show, it's a world with extreme poverty, with corporations superpower, with advance technology, violence, sex everywhere,(to be fair our world is already kinda like that tho lol) it's not our current world, people are trying to survive everyday, he's 17 years old yes, but he has seen everything already in a world like that, you seems to watch and care about details relative to our situation in 2022, not his situation in 2077, so it's putting you off the show and you don't understand why you should care. (and remember it's an anime, not everything need to be absolutely logical, it's also about style and cool and fun ) I think David don't need any friend or special ability for you to care about him, you 're just watching the life of a resident of night city and will see how he act and survive , what is path will be in a world and city like that. or it's maybe just not a show for you, no big deal I guess :)
Hope you guys keep doing the reactions. I personally think it is better in subs than dubs, but that is because I'm a fan of Studio Trigger and their previous work. Pretty sure both your view points will change very soon, this show is pretty interesting and was set up this way on purpose. Also, Netflix isn't getting rid of the binge method, at least not as of 2022.
I actually prefer subs as well, but they’re impossible to react to. We just read the whole time, and then editing them is a nightmare to keep context for the audience
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You should react to this show in batchs of two episodes ;)
Don't expect some slow burn build up to some shocking betrayal half way to the show, is pretty basic, sad dude in the gutter meets hot girl feels safe for a minute and then gets played is a very 80's type of trope, this isn't Game of Thrones
With the laundry machine it’s implied that his mom paid it off before she died, which is why it’s so sad when it worked
To reinforce this fact, in Ep1, when David first gets back to his apartment after the accident, there are are a few shots with this uniform pants and shirt neatly folded; presumably done by his mom.
It's not implied, she literally says in episode 1 she has the money she just forgot to pay the bill and fell asleep lmao
I get that this show is fast paced, but it’s incredible that these two literally have 0 idea what’s going on. I haven’t even played the game and I knew what was going on within the first episode.
When they were stealing the chips on the train Lucy was popping out the chips remotely and David was grabbing them.
I think the fact that he trust her is due to his situation. He is alone, his mother just died, he have a huge money issue and of couse he is a teen with tons of hormones.
So when a beautiful girl appears, its kind with you ang give you a way to make money he just went with it.
As for her "betrayal" you will figure it out next episodes why she did it but keep in mind in Night City you cant really trust anyone beside yourself.
I mean there are people whose "job" is to kidnap random people kill them and stole their cyberware. So yeah even if she betrayed him so fast randomly its not a strange thing, instead thats quite expected to be honest, thats night city, why someone should be gentle with you to begin with?
Its not like they know each others or they were friends, she just flirted to get something, not that strange.
I also think that it makes sense for him to trust her, not only by the point you started but because of the set of events:
They meet
They do a partnership
They succeed and get paid
He gets sick and she gets him help
She rescues him like 2 times
And then she invites him to her house to chill.
The story might be told a little fast, but it all makes sense.
Yeah idk why that's so hard to understand she flirted with him to get what she wants, women do that currently in real life...
I don't understand the confusion at the end of the episode. She obviously betrayed him in order to give the implant to those specific people. The dude at the end even says the implant is his.
In fact, a lot of things you're asking questions about are either already explained, or expected to be understood because it's not very complicated. He trusts Lucy because he dropped out, has no parents, and has no idea what to do with himself. As for the "male gaze" stuff... lol
She could have literally just taken him to those guys at any point though? The purpose of the day together is so she knows he can use the devistan but that’s plot reason not character reason
@@NerdyNightly Your question pretty much gets answered in the next episode. The betrayal at the end was to have cliffhanger, nothing more
@@NerdyNightly He would have easily run away if she just took him to them.
@@NerdyNightly Easier to scam someone after building some rapport.
@@NerdyNightly he has a sandevistan he could've ran away
The more you know about night city and the lore,the more the early episodes make sense...its a cruel and unforgiving place where legends are forged.
10:15 If you are referring to the scene in the ambulance. Why would Lucy trust the paramedic to cut her in on the deal? By calling in her own deal she can make more profit, plus less risk because she would probably call people she already knows.
12:15 "Why would he trust her?" Probably because she only person that he could talk informally with? Maybe because they spent the day doing jobs, she saved him from getting his implant stolen, and she took him to a doc instead of just leaving him on the street? Why did agree to go to Lucy's place? David's got nothing else going on. What's waiting for him at home? The events in ep1 put him in a weird headspace and he wants to do something anything. You can also say, from a character perspective, it show his naivete.
15:20 "I don't really care about the people..." Welcome to Night City, you'll fit right in.
She's also not randomly selling it. It's loyalty to Maine
Am alone in thinking David's circumstances aren't that off putting? Coming from similar ones myself may have something to do with it, but I thought the show did a wonderful job portraying what life is like for those less fortunate, whether they be fictional or real.
The girl, Lucy, is a hacker (a runner). She's causing their chips to eject by hacking them.
To elaborate, you can't just fish for the chips with your fingers. Like with some sim cards/SD cards (even old CD's) there's usually an ejection system built in. Lucy is just cranking that shit up to spit the chips at a faster than normal rate. Much like runners are able to screw with optical implants to cause blindness, fuck up the immune system with the spinal implants, or just cause cybernetics to overheat causing the user to self combust.
I get that kinda, but how does no one notice? Even if she hacked the notification, wouldn’t they feel the spring or whatever getting shot?
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Not if she hacked their ability to feel it, or just temporarily numbed them subtly
@@NerdyNightly now days if some one want to hack someone else he do something that other person don't understand that in that time in future this technic will be nothing
@@NerdyNightly In Cyberpunk there is a quick hack called "Memory Wipe". She probably used that or something similar.
You have to have lived in a bad neighborhood to understand why a kid would have a way into/out of the house that avoids most of the people in the complex. Even if it made me have to jump in garbage, that was one that I immediately got.
The video wrapper is meant to evoke a condom wrapper. They're sharing an actual moment of intimacy, compared to the distance and crudeness of everything similar we've seen so far
Those songs are not copyrighted - they were recorded specifically for the game, so you are free to stream it with music.
Media vs game. They enforce different rules. The songs do have a copyright. Game makers tend not to chase people for it as they feel all the content on top adds value to their product. TV and Movies studios are not as forgiving and you can only get it wrong 3 times on TH-cam before they delete your channel. Anime tends not to chase over seas violators due to the difficulty of international law but they literally arrest copyright violators in Japan. This one is distributed by Netflix who might be less kind than videogame companies.
Here is a question: if the dude is day away from being 18, is it still a problem? What about older generation experiencing sex with each other when they were 14-17? Is it about numbers specifically? If not, then is it about maturity? Cause those two seem mature enough for me to do what they want together.
This show gives you the reality check, when people and "kids" live in anarchic world where "childhood" doesnt exist and sexual experiences lost their value, the genuine show of affection between two young people is about the most pure thing this world can offer. Live fast, die young.
"Live fast, die young" defines Night City perfectly, bravo.
Absurd, arbitrary american puritanism where childen are sacrosanct and childhood is defined strictly by a completely arbitrary number of days you've been alive.
@@fell5514 It's funny because they put common people in jail for their arbitrary rules but the elites in power are complete pedophile slave owners that all participate in the very thing they make against the laws
Ok so a couple things, while I must admit the show is fast paced and could definetly benefit from fleshing out the characters more, David's already a pretty relatable protagonist in terms of what we know about him. I mean think about it, there are plenty of kids that were in episode 1 David's position. Don't like school, don't have a passion so they don't have that thing they're good at, which if I remember correctly you guys said in the first episode you hoped he would have had another trait to make him more relatable. But thats reality for a lot of teenagers. They hate school, don't have anything they're good at, so they just sort of live day to day which is what David was doing before his mom died. Playing video games, going to school and kinda just bumming around. As for Lucy's betrayal, thats just to be expected. Its a shady city, David made the mistake of trusting the first good looking girl to talk to him, especially right after the trauma of losing his mom. It's both understandable and realistic, don't trust people you meet off the street.
I can tell you guys didn't play the game much. And if you did you missed the world that was created. The world of Cyberpunk is a unforgiving place filled with riches, despair, depravity & pain. Friends are hard to come by and survival in this world takes as much dumb luck as it does skill & resources. Worrying about the age of the characters for sexual purposes is pretty funny considering you're not worried that she set up that 17 year old boy to be killed for that implant.
Regardless...thanks for the reaction
I think it's a western thing. Sex, sexiness, objectification, etc is uncomfortable but somehow violence is acceptable and commonplace. wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Also I think it takes a while for viewers to pick up that Night City is a major character in the series/game/IP.
@@Findail As a westerner myself, you're probably right. I'm just glad I don't fall into that stereotype. I'm very thankful to be open minded & able to see a bigger picture. Them talking about how the show is aimed at guys cause of a few butt shots is pretty funny as well. It's like they never heard of lesbians or bisexuals.
@@3mrwright dude, we’re both bisexuals… that does not change the way the camera lingers on her body the way it does
@@NerdyNightly Good to know. Do the lingering butt shots bother you? If so, why? Does it take away from the story? Or is just an easy thing to notice & point out? Not trying to be rude. Just curious about your takes on the situation.
@@NerdyNightly This is normal in anime. In Japan, people are not as uptight as in the West.
It feels like you guys are actively trying to not like this show. You make assumptions and say the story doesn’t make sense when if you just watched the rest it will explain things.
They just looking 4 excuse to drop it, that’s obvious. Just be direct guys. Not a big deal
Yeah honestly, the show isn’t perfect but they’re gonna sit and tell me they’re finding all these terrible things my cynical ass didn’t see myself? Nah they’re just grasping at straws trying to find problems with it when the show is one of the best things to come out in a while. Again it isn’t perfect but I’ll say it’s damn close! Anyway if it isn’t for them just drop it and say it wasn’t, not this trying to convince everyone it’s bad when it isn’t
@@richb4062 especially the girl, I can’t stand her facial expressions
It's a lot of missed detail and presumption of how a dystopian society would work like ours but with more guns. The nitpicks might be just to fill airtime, as the show is dense but if you aren't the type to pick up details the first few episodes are just setting the stage. I do find it annoying when they're nitpicking details which they got wrong or missed exposition which was not that subtle. But that's the internet, getting it wrong due to missed details means 40 fanboys will jump down your throat.
@@steezymiguel2393She clearly has fetal alcohol syndrome btw, you can tell by looking at her. If she doesnt, then damn that's even more sad.
I will continue to watch these but im confused how they are confused lmao its not a complicated show
Your collective inability to follow a fairly simple story is concerning
yall need so much hand holding
4:29 they think they're laughing because they think of 80/20 is like a hallway for bedroom
You ever heard of a little phrase called "suspension of disbelief"??
How tf is this the most viewed reaction to this show I got no fucking clue
The very reason they're questioning the morals of the show is the reason why they're the most viewed reaction to this show. Beautiful irony.
You probably would need a mechanism to eject something harmful that was slotted in.. And Lucy is taking advantage of that.
This is my favorite theory I’ve heard, that makes sense, and I’m adding it to the head canon
@@NerdyNightly In the game there was someone that had harmful software slotted in. It even shielded the person's signal from alerting Trauma Team.. Who would come in and kill anyone stopping them from giving their client medical care.
Literally an eject button. That simple.
I mean, have they never launched a microSD?
man these guys are really slow aren’t they
Goals are a luxury for people who have their needs already met. This is Night City, you're worrying about so many things that are practically common place in Night City. It's not a forgiving place and it doesn't give a shit how old, young, male or female, wtv it's residents are.
I can never understand western "sensibilities" when it comes to works of fiction, even if it's appropriate for the setting and for a mature audience. Sex is so uncomfortable, but ultra-violance even at kids is acceptable. I also don't get how you can agree with sex themes for something like Euphoria, but somehow then think it's out of character for a dystopian setting like Night City.
But I get it, it's pref. Fair 'nuff.
Consider this as a friendly heads up tho, you might find yourselves having (more) friction with the show once Becca is introduced.🤣
Yeah they seemed very nit picky even though he “loves” the cyberpunk world
@@steezymiguel2393 I am pretty sure he does not even know what the word cyberpunk means.
This show gives you answers to all your questions but not in the formulaic way you expect. By the end I have no doubt you'll love this show.
The big guy literally said "That implant is mine, I am taking it back" you gotta remember that he found that implant through his mom's stuff.
I do think if you are gonna watch the show either way to do reactions. But if the show doesn't do it for you and you don't want to keep watching at all do not feel forced to keep making videos,
I suppose it's harder to digest the content if you're extremely unfamiliar with cyberpunk settings and this sort of compressed storytelling as a whole.
Every scene and sentence presents you with a ton of information.
Nobody is going to hold your hand for an exposition dump of the whole setting and what each individual set piece represents. They'll never sit you down and take sixteen minutes to explain what Choom and Preem mean, what Brain Dances are, what Cyberpsychosis fully entails, why living in Night City is a struggle, or who each cast member is and what they're about.
You get all this information and more through implication, context and visual design. This is storytelling in motion and it's magnificently done.
I think the girl can "snatch" the chips as her skill and he just picks it up with his lightning speed.
The show is really unique, not sure if you will like how it progresses but I think it was actually pretty good and just a very unique experience (which is a good trait in itself)
And I think you are completely right. The episodes are not "episodes" really, a true Netflix problem. But if you watch them in the binge method I think it clicks.
The plot and characters are pretty cliche.
she is a netrunner,basically a hacker,she hacks
the target and ejects the chip.
@@lurkingposter not really. It's just pacing and it being to short.
@@calvintyler9281 A fresh faced kid joins a social group / subculture with the help of an older male role model (who will most likely die) and falls in love with a girl in said social group with dark, generic past (she will also probably die). Literally paint by numbers archetypes. Throw in the designated loli for the pedophiles and you got all the generic anime tropes.
Plotwise the story is alot weaker than alot of what I've seen. You got the staple McGuffin that everyone wants but the problem is the protagonist already has it so it puts the whole narrative on the back foot. It's makes the character growth become the A plot but the character growth is pretty generic. The B plot heists also aren't particularly clever or well executed. Hey, at least it's pretty to look at.
@@lurkingposter the protagonist having the macguffin is essentially the ring from lord of the rings. It’s a good subversion of a macguffin. His strongest ability is harming him physically, mentally, and drawing him undue attention.
I don’t think these characters are made to reflect their own value, but to prove the themes of the story, and show how horrible this city is. Cliche is fine. Inescapable, really.
I am assuming you are just not that into it , because they explain things and just somehow missed the information
6:00 I think we need to get away from the sexualization of a great ass and realize that it's an extremely important connection between the spine and the legs and is a focal point in our weight distribution. Maxed out glutes means more than aesthetics. It's good posture, less impact on your legs and your feet don't get sore as often. The more defined, the more healthier you are lol. it's kind of bizarre.
3:43 He passes through there cause the actual stairs is barricaded with garbage with a troll jerk guarding it and probably making people pay a toll to pass through…😥😖
It sounds like you guys aren't feeling the show at all. I hope guy to the left decides to watch it on his own time. It's a nice story the further you get into it. Maybe just not reaction worthy for you two.
The world in the show and game has humans that enhance their bodies for survival to the point that they barely look human, even the shots of the girl's behind, you can see línes in her legs meaning she has leg and or skin augmentation, IMO, in that world modesty is lost or trivial, when you can be killed at any time in a city full of cybernatically enhanced Gangs, survival is all that matters
On Bills: There was a quick scene with David was looking through his mums accounts. He noted she had a oddly lot of money in there and she had been saying she was going to get the money for the upgrade of his wreath. Next episode you'll find out why she had that money. That money is what settled the rent and paid the washer. Hint: Related to why she had a implant in a bag.
Woman on the right: “Ew male gaze, disgusting!” while herself showing cleavage... Logic - not even once
So she's not allowed to question the sexualization in the show if she shows any hint of cleavage? Uh huh...
Lets be honest male gaze is pretty much just empty buzz phrase.
@@RazielBlair Japanese media does have a different frame of reference for it. Anime and Manga have an issue where sales are driven a lot by super fans who who engage with fan service a lot. In Japan a lot more of the profits from media are made from direct sales of Blu-ray and merch. So they focus more on pleasing super fans versus just drawing in general viewership.
If they shot the male character that way many men get uncomfortable about it. Think about peoples opinions about JoJo which does the male gaze to men.
If they framed the camera so her cleavage was a large portion of the screen then the criticism is more apt.
@@kingmanic Or you know, if she made a living off of the male gaze. Oh wait.
Seems like these guys trying so hard to not like the the show. There were so many hints and clues they missed most.
"What happens if someone throws at a fridge?"
You take the stairs right next to it....
Why did they made it sound like crediting Franz Ferdinand is like crediting some unknown artist. Lol. Maybe Im too old to remember them as a major artist
This is basically one long movie, I don't think there's anything wrong with that though.
Not every show will give you a perfect episode 1, most of the best shows has episode 1's that gives you a ride and some questions and the rest actually fleshes stuff out
I know you guys have already finished the series, but seeing how hung up you got on the fact that David is 17 is pretty funny.
9:22 Yeah man Braindances can be crazy, they are tuned so well that you can feel every little detail and can adjust it however you want.
The age of David is more important than David survival in night city.
Can’t wait for the next episode 😂
Do not worry, you will definitely care before the end, trust me :) This show is addictive
I can't make you like the show obviously but I do know that a lot of praise and love has been surrounding this anime, Studio trigger has done a phenomenal job making it, so I recommend you watch it till completion.
The girl Lucy is the one who was ejecting their little ports in the back of their necks on the train she's basically a hacker and she hacked while david snagged all the chips
the confusion at the end of both episodes really makes me realize that this show heavily benefits from binge watching.
Well, it is a Netflix show. They invented binge watching. And most people with glowing reviews say “I watched it in one sitting,” or something.
It's really a 3 and a half hour movie.
this show benefits from you having a brain in your skull. That's all you need.
By the way, the anime takes place 1 year before the events in the game.
I don’t think it’s been stated when it takes place but obviously before the events of the game
Agree 👍
11:54
He's right ✅
12:01
13:45 she right that's what i do
My 2 cents is a reaction video that is multiple episodes or episodes 3-10. I agree that this is an anime that seems intended to be binged. I finished it in to days and did feel connected to the characters. And the slots are what make it possible for a net runner to fry someone’s brains. The slots have mini software that store our memories and personal data is how I thought of it which would make them value enough to steal.
I'd like to see more of what you two think about this show. It's fun to see how non-anime fans react to anime shows. It really puts things into perspective.
What’s with the silly questions? Lmao
For his path look at the stairs it's overflowing with trash, that's honestly probably the only way to get down.
The chips popping out are just Lucy hacking the people to make it happen.
She press the chip "eject botton" wireless, because she´s a hacker.
In Japanese anime, 17 is the default age of most protagonists.
FMA is a good example of it. In the 80's it was more like 13 or 14.
Japan is much more liberal with sexual stuff happening to teens than American movies or series, and it's been like this for decades.
It's a cultural thing. No need to get flustered about it.
Lucy
7:32 oh boy, seriously so it is your first time drinking?
7:40 take it off
In the first episode we saw David watch the memo (brain dance) of a psycho kill several police man in horrific ways and get kill and you are questioning if he is to young for sexual content.
Tell me you are from the US without telling me that you are from the US.
You see a lot more development to the characters in the next few episodes.
People already explained but basically everyone has USBs their necks, a slot for normal personal info, and an extra slot incase someone wanted to show you something. Lucy was “hacking” then out of their heads and David was able to slow mo grab them
11:06 They do mention that in the first ep that he'd a straight A student.
When you're in a braindance you're unaware of the outside world to easy to get jumped (He's wearing the sandy so can easy escape if chased otherwise).
idk seems like they aren't into anime as a genera bc as animation goes this is pretty much in the same style and even top tier for that matter. Maybe they haven't watched much anime before so will have to get used to it. Might be why they feel so disconnected and confused to a point where they criticize at every step and miss dialogue and plot points. Like its supposed to be 2077 in a very futuristic world and they wanna know the specifics of each cyberware and how it works lol
Also he said he spent a lot of time in the game - but sounds like he hasn't spent enough lol ..how does he not know what a sandevistan is or armored skin, BDs, all the types of hacking, the hyper-sexualized and extreme capitalist society in game (Sex sells), etc. But also since body implants are so prominent, people lose touch with todays standards of "shame" bc it's most of the time not even their body.
All in all so far seems like they're just hate watching ahah, hope they like it more in the following eps. The show is more about the world than the characters. David is a story about the life of the lower class in this world trying to be better in his own way lol. But David's a relatable character to a lot of people either way, especially the less privileged.
the more I watched this show, the more I cared about everything and everyone in it. It just kept building, rather than hooking me all at once, it was more gradual. It definitely feels designed to be binged in 1-3 sessions, rather than watched episodically, so releasing it as an episodic show really does feel like a weird choice.
6:33 i agree i hate evil bad doctor
15:32 David may have no goal now other than survive, but that's about to change.
16 is legal consent in Japan.
To be fair it's a Japanese show and the age of consent in Japan is 16. Was 13 for a long time so it's something Americans will feel weird about but it's not our media.
They not prepared for this this is a incredible anime sad it’s only 10 episodes tho they could of made it way longer but it would end the same with way
I do think you should give it one or two more episodes before you decide whether or not to continue; I think the show improves with every episode and the opening is definitely rough. I personally would love to see you continue.
Just don't let the girl react she a kill joy
Hey thanks for the review!! I have seen the whole series multiple times! And like I said before it is not for everyone. I really appreciate the effort tho!! If you keep going you may like it more! As others have said, these "episodes" are DEFINITELY "vignettes of a single-thread larger story" and not really viewable individually. And... unfortunately if you don't play the video game or the TTRPG or understand the "base lore" it might be a little confusing, because, as David pointed out, the plot moves very very quickly and they... don't take time to explain very much. But... having played the living crap out of the video game, it took me a couple run-throughs to grok the whole thing. ... haha sorry I keep editing more on this comment... Edgerunners does not "build a world". Edgerunners is "a story in the world that is built by the Cyberpunk 2077 video game." And, yeah, it's basically a 200 minute (3H 20 M) movie.
it's worth pointing out that NC is not technically an American city. NC is a free economic zone in the Independent state of California and is not part of the New United States of America, or NUSA.
Latest update to the game includes a bit where you can sign a petition to get NC into the NUSA.
You guys are way past this... but Lucy was ejecting the chips. She is a netrunner. Her skill is hacking. She was remotely ejecting the chips while also manipulating each target to not feel it. She normally does this one person at a time but with David's help she can just eject like 5 chips at once and he grabs them all in a second.
The title is mistake, Cyberpunk Edgerunners is made by Studio Trigger and CD Projekt Red, not Netflix, they only release on platform and maybe co-financed project
11:44: Oh, so he's Deku basically
Arcane was pretty slow in the beginning too but it was great. This show really picks up around ep 3 with episodes 6 and 10 being in a league of their own.
Did you watch their Arcane reaction? It was just as painful.
Arcane actually had a great story thoo lol
Bruh in the last episode he dropped out bc his mom died
You realize all shows have to credit the artists right? That's like a copyright violation otherwise
This show is paced real fast
After the moon scene that ending and the song will leave you empty and depressed.
Just want to say you guys need to stop reading to far into everything lmao. It's a cartoon about a fantasy cyber world. Stop trying to have a reason or question for every little thing
Just hope y’all don’t cut out the music on the last ep
i would think of it like an emergency ejection system in case a chip goes really really bad
At this point there is no plot yet. David trusted Lucy because he was desperate. The plot will unfold as David finds his group but at this point he is desperate to latch onto anything because he just lost everything.
17 child 18 he is a grown up... Dont stuck on this please! This is Night city. 50 years from now. Not too long ago childs was getting merried for political alliances :D
You.guys.are.not.ready
That song will not be a banger -_-
David and Lucy aren't watching a video, they're experiencing a BrainDance together ^^; If you played the game (which you said you have), you've experienced a few of these too! :)
Basically it's putting a completely different location or person directly into your brain's synapses so anything you experience in there will translate to your brain as if you really experienced it. It's why when you're watching the braindance tutorial in the game, with the shoplifter getting shot at the end, V cries out in terror as they wake up, because despite the amount of blockers Judy puts in, dying still is a very visceral experience.
If your not enjoying it
By episode 4 drop it but after 3 is when most people fall in love with it. The first two can be rocky for sure.
Because that ARE her guys. She's acting like a honey bot and luring him into a trap. The whole deal was to see what he was all about and lead him into a trap because THEY want his implant.
Lucy’s a hacker. David’s the speedster.
Problem solved.
8:57 get out. Get out of my house.
Watching you two try to make sense of these two episodes is painful. The first episode was meant to show how sh tty his life was. Also. the girl is like his age.
thanks for the reaction, you definitely need to continue, it will be interesting to see your evolution and point of view changing towards the situation and characters.
I agree that it feel like a movie in 10 part more than really a series, and the first 3 episodes need to be watched in one sitting for you to really start to appreciate the show I guess, and if you don't remembered the world of the game well and night city well you will miss a few things but that said it's worth watching it regardless.
Plus I really think you need to watch the show considering it's not our world, it's cyberpunk 2077 world, you can't project the mores of our society in 2022 in everything you see in the show, it's a world with extreme poverty, with corporations superpower, with advance technology, violence, sex everywhere,(to be fair our world is already kinda like that tho lol) it's not our current world, people are trying to survive everyday, he's 17 years old yes, but he has seen everything already in a world like that, you seems to watch and care about details relative to our situation in 2022, not his situation in 2077, so it's putting you off the show and you don't understand why you should care. (and remember it's an anime, not everything need to be absolutely logical, it's also about style and cool and fun )
I think David don't need any friend or special ability for you to care about him, you 're just watching the life of a resident of night city and will see how he act and survive , what is path will be in a world and city like that.
or it's maybe just not a show for you, no big deal I guess :)
Hope you guys keep doing the reactions. I personally think it is better in subs than dubs, but that is because I'm a fan of Studio Trigger and their previous work. Pretty sure both your view points will change very soon, this show is pretty interesting and was set up this way on purpose. Also, Netflix isn't getting rid of the binge method, at least not as of 2022.
I actually prefer subs as well, but they’re impossible to react to. We just read the whole time, and then editing them is a nightmare to keep context for the audience
You should react to this show in batchs of two episodes ;)
JJK 0 reaction!? Its beautiful! I'm not sure of y'all do anime but if not y'all should.
I watched the first episode like 3 times with different people.. I picked up more each time.
Don't expect some slow burn build up to some shocking betrayal half way to the show, is pretty basic, sad dude in the gutter meets hot girl feels safe for a minute and then gets played is a very 80's type of trope, this isn't Game of Thrones
You will get more characters and more depth to Lucy and her interaction with David.
These are just 20 min episodes so you need a few to make the setup
Is it just me or this girl looks like Anya-Taylor Joy
Glas.... A fridge😂😂