first off, that is less a fact than it is an observation since it's specific to each case and not generalisable. Secondly, James wouldn't be classed as an abuser as there was no prior history of violence towards others, once off does not define someone as an 'abuser'.
@@nathanconway131 Studies also now indicate that about one-third of people who are abused in childhood will become abusers themselves. So, then, just an "observation"? Do your homework, mate..
A fact is a statement that is objectively true and can be proven or verified. ‘Sometimes’ reduces the statement to be less generalisable, thus, not a fact. Just like saying 2+2=4 is a fact, however, to say ‘2+2 sometimes = 4’ would not be a fact (even tho it does sometimes add to 4 because it then isn’t reliable over time). Also, are you referring to a study from 1987…? 😂
I actually want to see James at Lucas’ football game on the next episode I know the opera glasses are a joke, but I can imagine James in his posh accent cheering him on 😂😂😂
"I actually want to see James at Lucas’ football game on the next episode" I wanted to see it too, but they don't show it. James and Ste won't appear again until around January 8th.
Big up Lucas for thinking about his dad James should of not hit him but can work it out James need to make up for it and get help and show Lucas some respect and treat him right
I can't trust you. That reminds me of the scene when Warren was saying to Sienna how, don't you trust me? Sienna was like Brody she can trust with her life. Warren she doesn't. May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤️Team Summer and Sienna💕Team Simmer💍
Oh my OA I really am glad Lucas tried to make things right for his dad and his stepfather he’s really starting to act mature. I really feel sorry for James, Lucas and Ste and I really hope they’ll work this out I even hope James will stick to his word about going to anger management therapy. I really wish they’d put Lucas together with Dillon already and have them becoming a couple those two are giving me similar reminders to #McDean I even sometimes wish Craig came back to meet Carter and help him get rid of this conversion therapy thing plus I’m really worried about Lucas being apart of the group. 😧
James has had loads of chances to get helped and has not done it you really think he will step and do it now naw he won't. And he crossed a line hitting ste son and locking him in a shed.
@@adamwinters448 I loved Mcdean I felt Sarah and Zoe could have been a great match I hated Lydia and Sarah together I have grown to like Spike more after rewatching Mcdean he was smitten with John-Paul he was openly gay had no girlfriend and wanted an exclusive relationship with John-Paul whilst JP was happier sharing Craig with Sarah than being exclusive with Spike
Because they are 2 irrelevant situations and different circumstances that's why. Ste was brendan partner and when you get abused by your partner you get scared to leave and plus you think you can change that person when they tell you they are sorry and say they will change. Lucas is ste child and when your child was hit by your partner you tell your partner to one as your duty of care is protect your child that's why
Lucas provoked James ,he hit Lucas and Ste found out so he’s mad at James for hitting Lucas (excusing the fact that Lucas provoked him ) and he’s also excusing that with the fact that Lucas is 15 here (a child According to Ste)
@@javierasalgadoreyes15 is a child Amy was 15 when she gave birth to his biologically half sister Leah she was a child on her 15th birthday she slept with Billy in the park and hid her pregnancy her and Ste later got together and she lied that he was the dad then he became abusive Chopped off Amy long hair she lied about being pregnant to stop the abuse only to find out she was really pregnant
I’m sorry but I may be the lone opinion but I don’t like Ste with James. Not condoning what James did but I felt like Ste as well as his kids only view James as an open wallet. They don’t seem to care about him except when his money is flowing. Ste is so quick to not forgive but he let his kids just run a muck and nothing is said. Again not condoning what James did but a lot went on before it got to that point and Ste’s past behavior when he needed forgiveness seems to be all but forgotten. He was the main reason Yaz doesn’t have her hearing but that’s ok he’s forgiven. They blew up their apt when he was a part of the extremist group oh we forgot about that huh? And he wasn’t even allowed to see his kids. He was allowed to rehabilitate but now that James needs a little help oh it’s a non starter. So how about you gather your posse up and move back to Lela’s without the comfort of James’ cash and luxury home. You know where you were when you couldn’t pay rent or buy gifts or drink wine….. I’m just saying I don’t think they love James just for James so that’s why forgiveness is not a part of the conversation.
You comparing ste and yaz situation to this lucas is ste son and when you lock up your fiance son and hit him then you don't deserve forgiveness people like you are trying to compare irrelevant situations
Ste in taking Lucas words as gospel he's not ready to talk about why James clocked him so i see end of marriage hes a good example of I am goodness personified. Not
The abused sometimes become the abuser. That is not a justification. It is a fact.
first off, that is less a fact than it is an observation since it's specific to each case and not generalisable. Secondly, James wouldn't be classed as an abuser as there was no prior history of violence towards others, once off does not define someone as an 'abuser'.
@@nathanconway131 Studies also now indicate that about one-third of people who are abused in childhood will become abusers themselves. So, then, just an "observation"? Do your homework, mate..
Not true I was abused as a child and not an abuser x
A fact is a statement that is objectively true and can be proven or verified. ‘Sometimes’ reduces the statement to be less generalisable, thus, not a fact. Just like saying 2+2=4 is a fact, however, to say ‘2+2 sometimes = 4’ would not be a fact (even tho it does sometimes add to 4 because it then isn’t reliable over time). Also, are you referring to a study from 1987…? 😂
@@claregoodhead5919 Good on you.
I actually want to see James at Lucas’ football game on the next episode
I know the opera glasses are a joke, but I can imagine James in his posh accent cheering him on 😂😂😂
"I actually want to see James at Lucas’ football game on the next episode"
I wanted to see it too, but they don't show it. James and Ste won't appear again until around January 8th.
Jamie Holmes OA I would too that’d be epic to see James at a soccer game.
0:26 WD that son and father moment though!#Hollyoaks #All4 😊
Big up Lucas for thinking about his dad James should of not hit him but can work it out James need to make up for it and get help and show Lucas some respect and treat him right
I can't trust you. That reminds me of the scene when Warren was saying to Sienna how, don't you trust me? Sienna was like Brody she can trust with her life. Warren she doesn't. May Summer Ranger return back onto our screens and marry Sienna please❤️Team Summer and Sienna💕Team Simmer💍
Oh my OA I really am glad Lucas tried to make things right for his dad and his stepfather he’s really starting to act mature. I really feel sorry for James, Lucas and Ste and I really hope they’ll work this out I even hope James will stick to his word about going to anger management therapy. I really wish they’d put Lucas together with Dillon already and have them becoming a couple those two are giving me similar reminders to #McDean I even sometimes wish Craig came back to meet Carter and help him get rid of this conversion therapy thing plus I’m really worried about Lucas being apart of the group. 😧
James has had loads of chances to get helped and has not done it you really think he will step and do it now naw he won't. And he crossed a line hitting ste son and locking him in a shed.
We need a million more gay storylines . So good to watch and cool
Which same sex couples have been your favourite pairing?
@@loobyh6274 to be honest i loved many. And for me they all were cool to watch
@@adamwinters448 I loved Mcdean I felt Sarah and Zoe could have been a great match I hated Lydia and Sarah together I have grown to like Spike more after rewatching Mcdean he was smitten with John-Paul he was openly gay had no girlfriend and wanted an exclusive relationship with John-Paul whilst JP was happier sharing Craig with Sarah than being exclusive with Spike
Somebody hit my kid, love or no love and you're history.
Oh please Ste!
James and Ste's marriage is over and bring the trust back to Ste. 👨❤👨💔
I hope they 2 can stay on track for 2024
Mackenzie Fraser I hope so too. I love #Stames.
Why wasn't Ste like this when he was constantly getting beaten up by Brendan? He stuck by him.
I’d think Ste would leave Brendan in a heartbeat if he laid a hand on his kids
Not true, follow the story line of Ste!
Because they are 2 irrelevant situations and different circumstances that's why. Ste was brendan partner and when you get abused by your partner you get scared to leave and plus you think you can change that person when they tell you they are sorry and say they will change. Lucas is ste child and when your child was hit by your partner you tell your partner to one as your duty of care is protect your child that's why
Can someone explain to me what happened to them?
Lucas provoked James ,he hit Lucas and Ste found out so he’s mad at James for hitting Lucas (excusing the fact that Lucas provoked him ) and he’s also excusing that with the fact that Lucas is 15 here (a child According to Ste)
@@javierasalgadoreyes15 is a child Amy was 15 when she gave birth to his biologically half sister Leah she was a child on her 15th birthday she slept with Billy in the park and hid her pregnancy her and Ste later got together and she lied that he was the dad then he became abusive Chopped off Amy long hair she lied about being pregnant to stop the abuse only to find out she was really pregnant
Lucas had also been blackmailing his stepdad and trying to split them up. Being a child isn't an excuse when he's 15. He knew what he was doing.
I’m sorry but I may be the lone opinion but I don’t like Ste with James. Not condoning what James did but I felt like Ste as well as his kids only view James as an open wallet. They don’t seem to care about him except when his money is flowing. Ste is so quick to not forgive but he let his kids just run a muck and nothing is said. Again not condoning what James did but a lot went on before it got to that point and Ste’s past behavior when he needed forgiveness seems to be all but forgotten. He was the main reason Yaz doesn’t have her hearing but that’s ok he’s forgiven. They blew up their apt when he was a part of the extremist group oh we forgot about that huh? And he wasn’t even allowed to see his kids. He was allowed to rehabilitate but now that James needs a little help oh it’s a non starter. So how about you gather your posse up and move back to Lela’s without the comfort of James’ cash and luxury home. You know where you were when you couldn’t pay rent or buy gifts or drink wine….. I’m just saying I don’t think they love James just for James so that’s why forgiveness is not a part of the conversation.
You comparing ste and yaz situation to this lucas is ste son and when you lock up your fiance son and hit him then you don't deserve forgiveness people like you are trying to compare irrelevant situations
I don't like Ste and James together at all wish Ste and John Paul would reunite.#MCHAY
jwsm2 Sorry but the #McHays ship has sailed I’m actually more into #McShepherd.
@@ChelseyLindenWD you should be removed from TH-cam at least 11 months!😅
@@ChelseyLinden 😆😆
@@jwsm2 What’s so funny?????
@@ChelseyLindenYou'll understand when you're older 😂😂
Lucas is hardly a child haha
15 is still a child bit if he was 20 James wouldn't of been right to hit him
He is 15 he is a minor which makes him a child
Ste in taking Lucas words as gospel he's not ready to talk about why James clocked him so i see end of marriage hes a good example of I am goodness personified. Not
Give me a good reason for leaving a kid out in the cold
First all off there is no excuse to hit someone else child and 2nd of all there was no excuse in locking lucas in a shed