@@Scavigger593 Maybe it could be temporary, like how vulture masks only temporarily scare lizards. Long enough to let you slip by without a fight if you want to.
Went to check this out on Reddit to ensure the idea wasn’t stolen, as I’d seen it appear in my recommended a day before, and all of this is genuinely made by this person, ‘Whoa Horsey’. The idea is well crafted, fits the Rainworld aesthetic, sound design and feel. Having the mask be a silencer makes manoeuvring areas like The Leg easier, as many enemies are based off of sound there, including the dreaded Rot (I mostly just call the ‘Rot’ cancer). Great idea, great execution, great description and more. The idea fits well into the game, and I hope all goes well!
Thanks! I tend to post concepts on many different social media accounts before uploading the final video to youtube so I can get the opinions and thoughts of as many people as possible before finishing it up. Glad you liked it :)
@@Wallace_Horsey that’s actually a good way to do it as well, as you can see what others think before posting it somewhere that may attract more attention. It also shows what you’ve been working on as a small sneak-peak to what you may upload onto your TH-cam channel as well, so it’s intriguing for those interested in your content. Great job overall, I cannot state how good all of this is!
@@ProphecyOfLunarFlame-rq2ip they're interesting, but for rain world this isn't pretty interesting Every creature in rain world has it's differences with their real life analogs Also they're pretty weak for predator, literally everybody gonna eat them in such cruel ecosystem Even strawberry lizards
Maybe on the Wall, they become more active at night and have their eyes open instead of solely relying on sound. I think it would fit with the more dangerous creature spawns during that time and well… because they’re based on owls lol.
This is awesome, dude! Genuinely I want this to be an actual mod. Question: what would an owl act like without a mask? How would other owls react to that? Would they attack the maskless owl like vultures do? Can an owl even survive without a mask considering it must be knocked off by a spear to obtain?
I didn't really think about that when making them, so I guess they would behave like normal maskless vultures. I think a cool detail is that since the mask provides the silence buff, one that looses it's mask would be kicked out of a flock because loosing their silence could disrupt a hunt
i have an idea for a new vulture variant but no way to implement it. i know how to code in c# but can't do something as complex as adding an entire new creature to the game, and i don't want to use fisobs since that mod is disgusting. my idea is the "scarab vulture": an extremely powerful vulture that looks similar to a miros vulture, but its head is the same as the ones vulture grubs have. it can breathe fire through its mouth and shoot lasers, is extremely aggressive, and difficult to kill. essentially a boss fight.
Them being Tamable was not expected by me, it’s basically having a slightly larger slugcat buddy that has wings. I wonder how effective they are compared to the Lizards as a partner
I'd say it's about even, lizards are tankier and deal more damage but owls would be quicker and able to follow you through more regions because they can fly.
With the mask power concept, I think it would also be nice if wearing an owl mask makes them less likely to attack you and go for other prey if there are more in that one room. And if not, since it is only slightly larger than a slugcat, I would assume in dark areas like shaded citadel, an owl could mistake a slugcat with a mask for another owl, and would ignore them the first time they made noise, and only go after them the second time noise is done.
Well... considering they mute your sound entirely, owls might just be completely unable to detect you when wearing an owl mask unless they're already hunting
@@TrixterTheFemboy well maybe you could still be in their line of sight if they detect another sound from some other source, so this could be something that helps who knows.
If you can drag a jetfish into the water, you can probably drag an owl onto land. They’d probably be too busy trying to survive to worry about hunting you, and they wouldn’t be able to immediately fly away with you as prey due to their wet wings, so it would give you a grace period to scurry away if dragging them out of the water didn’t fully tame them. All in all I like this idea.
@@Rainworldiscool me thinking about rain world Deluxe(Rain World Remake) that literally have better graphics and you can use emotes in jolly-coop(you can make online servers! and set the player limit) and if i was the developer of this idea of my rain world remake game i would add that creature
It would be cool if tamed owls could possibly bring you prey, other food, or random items. It would also be cool if the player could break into an owl's nest and eat/steal the eggs at the cost of reputation (this could also bring up the possibility of raising automatically tamed baby owls [owlets] as a pet)
I also think it'd be really cool if they had some indicator of their damage(especially since at minimum they can't kill you in one hit), maybe higher damage ones have slightly bulkier bodies, and the mask types are connected to their damage? So, you're more likely to find wide-eyes and discs on the weaker ones, then smooth and finally spiked on the strongest ones?
reminded me of how we ('we' as in me and a friend) were originally planning a ''miros owl'' creature for a rw project, but we eventually ended up with what is now known as a ''miros crow'' instead and also on the topic of vultures, we have a vulture with a gauss cannon strapped to its head lmao
I'd say flock owls should be one-shot; mobbing sounds like it would be an excellent alternative to a QTE that fits not despite but _because_ Rain World is a movement game, but making them attack multiple times would drag it on for too long. The time to react* should likely be ~0.65s-0.35s ±0.1s, or a flat 0.5s ±0.1s if "New dynamic difficulty" is disabled. Also they would have to be heavy, as to make the spears easy to retrieve. *Only starting from the moment when an input should be made, so: The time you'd spend in perfect play *+* the buffer, per move; you would be spending some time walking/airborne/whatever that do not count towards these numbers, you wouldn't need a ridiculous 240 CPM. Also keep in mind the faster the "event" is, the shorter the amount of time that you would have to be concentrated.
Oooo was the tamable idea inspired by my comment???? And also when tamed I think olws should be able to be used as squidcadas of sorts?? Or maybe they hold a spear on their legs for you or yeet it. Also uh another idea that could work for smaller prey (specifically slugcat) would be picking you up and throwing you from the heights attempting to kill/stun you it'd be very cool to see this behaviour on flock owls as if each one had a role in the hunt
Perhaps spawn density would be (1 is about mole in filtration, while 0.1 is about alpha in high industrial for example) Shaded 0.8 Underhang 1 Wall 0.3 Leg 0.4 Crypts 0.2 Farms 0.3 Grotto 0.8 Filtration 0 Shoreline 0.1 Wastes 0.1 Archipelago 0.9 Canopy 0.9 LTTM 0 Drainage 0 Suburban 0.1 (0.4 as non-monk/survivor) Voided 0.2 High industrial 0.2 (0.7 as non-monk/survivor) Outer expanse 0.3 Metro 0.8 (top) 0.5 (mid) 1 (bot) Pretty sure they would absolutely thrive in saint's timelane (if they make it thru Ruffles :P) cause greens are gone and lots of zoops, as well as basically no water and high cold resistance
Very cool concept, if I was a bit more experienced with coding, I'd take a crack at it. Real life owls are often targets of harassment by other bird species, perhaps other creatures (i.e, Squidcada, if they are not considered prey by the owls) Would do so? The only creature I have managed to make so far is a spider that shoots bombs. Coding hard.
Honestly this is a really good idea! I did see a lot of good suggestions in the comments so im going to list them down below. Wearing an owl mask convincs them that you are one of their species (atleast until you get close). You could grab Owls that enter the water to save them and that would increase reputation or instantly tame them. You could grab tamed Owls and use them like more controlled squidcadas (maybe you could hold jump to make them fly, since you're like the same size they wouldnt fly for long or very high)
i LOVE this thing. The other comments saying the Slugcat can "hide" as one of them is also definitely my favourite idea seen in here so far Now, some ideas and criticism that wasn't asked for, and does not need to be valued whatsoever, incoming;
These are super cool, although for some reason the bird-ness bothers me... They don't Have to be related to Vultures in any way in order to be a flying threat, but I like that the "Vultures" barely resemble birds at all. Weird grappling things on the face, distinctly shaped masks that are more reminiscent of an insect's mandibles, unwieldy body and pathetic wing structure. It's distinctly alien but also distinctly designed, as most creatures in RW appear to be, having been meddled with and turned bio-machine aeons ago by the ancients. And since they copy a few things from the Vultures, namely the mask-developing their faces do, I would imagine there is SOME relation. Maybe their quick ascension into the sky could be aided by a smaller thruster on their body, similar to how the Vultures fly. I like how mostly natural the Owl feels, but it also looks like... yknow, an actual owl, as if it was from earth and just ported into this alien world. It really feels like a creature who happened to evolve into it's own niche & adapt better and quicker than others- but, we've seen evolution in this game before, somewhat, and it appears pretty limited. Possibly due to the way the ancients bio-machined everything so every organism was purposed? Seeing a creature somehow make it's way out of that limitation is fascinating. I'd love if it still had evidence in it of once being purposed and from the world the ancients' built. As it is, it's a VERY natural feeling creature, maybe too natural, if that makes sense. It would be really cool if it had a more unique facial structure as opposed to basic birdlike beak, or just a more vague silhouette, to embrace the alien-ness of the world. I remember a while ago seeing artworks showcasing the different structures of beaks and bird feet and how they're specialised to do what they do.... I imagine this Owl would have evolved specialisations to reflect it's hunting styles. Maybe the stronger an Owl is, the bigger the mask, as if they rely on swooping they'd want more hard surfaces on their body to smack into their prey and protect themselves. (I'm imagining an Owl with a funny helmet on now.... Takes proper protection to dive safely........) Additionally, the masks totally covers their entire face. Probably works great for diving, but how are they supposed to grab anything when it's so snugly over their mouth? Hence why I suggested to do away with the beak, if they had a different structure in there like the vulture's mandibles, then the masks themselves could keep the beak shape and probably have the wriggle room underneath to allow the Owl to grab it's prey. The Vulture masks have that little divot at the front specifically to give their mouth room for use. Works fine for a long-necked turkey that just plucks it's prey up off the ground, not so much for a creature who is the same size as it's prey. Maybe another gameplay mechanic, depending how fast the swoop is, would be to add the sightlines that King Vultures have. Maybe not the whole time it's eyes are open, rather just when it's offscreen. That gives the players opportunity to see what the Owl is thinking when they can't see the Owl itself. And, if they hunt prey bigger than themselves I would assume some things can't be taken off into the sky with them. Maybe they can be distracted in a "feeding" state for a time, where the flock just swarms the carcass and is too busy mangling it to notice when prey better-suited to be stored in their nests makes noise.
@@spazmak666 Thanks for the feedback! My thought process behind owls looking more natural than other vultures is that they could have evolved after the ancients had acended (though we don't really know how long ago that was) and adapted to fit a more niche roll in the ecosystem. In some of the images in the video, I did add a thruster onto them to add to their relation with vultures, but in the main image showcasing them I accidentally left the thruster off, as it was screenshotted before I decided to add the thruster and I forgot to update it. The mask being shaped like a real bird beak was to make it seem adapted to the owls hunting style. vultures grab with their madibles and fly off before the prey is actually dead, so having grabbing madibles makes sense. Owls are too small to fly off with any prey larger than a slugcat, so they would have to kill it before flying away, hence the hunting style of swooping. a sharp beak would help with piercing and stabbing damage, especially with a good amount of speed built up from a swoop. the mask covering the whole face, I'll be honest I tried to experiment with the face showing a bit under the mask but it ended up looking weird or goofy so I just left it how it is. Adding sightlines like with king vultures would take away from the stealth and silence aspect of owls. they're meant to use the element of surprise with their silent mask ability to ambush prey. I get how this could be seen as a bit broken, as you wouldn't be able to tell when their coming, which is why I added that they screech before a hunt, as kind of a warning to the player. I like the idea of the feeding state, I never really went into detail or thought about how they handle their prey after catching them so I think that's a cool idea :)
I made a concept about a vulture species called owls as well (never shared it online though). The original concept was made a couple months ago with another species called hawks (which came first in 2023) and I've been adding to them since then. Then I coincidentally find this video today. From watching this, it's really interesting to see what other people can make with very similar ideas and have them be extremely unique. I liked the social behaviors, which is basically the opposite of my owl concept since they naturally don't have masks. The fact that you can tame them also makes this really intriguing.
I think I can see a problem with this.. I know is supposed to be a deadly creature, but even then, Isn't there any way to defend or dodge when spotted?
@@Wallace_Horsey Maybe you didn't think about it much, but... What if one of the solitary owls failed to catch a prey? Would it fly back to where it was or would it start chasing it while it was flying? Sorry for the questions! I just found this concept really interesting.
@@Random-oy7vk i guess I didn't think too hard about stuff like that, I would say they could either continue chasing their original target or fly back to their perch depending on how much health they have or how high the aggressive nature of an individual is
I love the concept. It’s just it doesn’t make much sense for the mask to conceal their sounds. 90% of the time everything in rainworld makes sense. Why would wearing a mask conceal your sounds. Shouldn’t it just be a weaker vulture mask?
the way I see it, Rain World, while meant to act as an ecosystem simulator, is not as realistic as it seems and is still very much a "fantasy" game. In the example of vulture masks, they just don't make since at all. How do the vultures get them? they clearly don't have the ability to craft them, so is every vulture somehow born with both a mask and a pair of thrusters, two inorganic things that are physically impossible to occur in a natural ecosystem? same with the robotic jaws of a leviathan and the legs of a miros bird. How can the Gourmand just pull an infinite amount of items (including other living creatures) from its stomach or the artificer turn a spear into an explosive one by putting it in its mouth? for a "makes sense for Rain World" idea, maybe the mask is made of a special sound-absorbing material or something. Glad you like the concept, and sorry for the long reply, I just like talking about stuff like this :)
You are naming Biotic and abiotic creatures. These have to be made by an intelligent species as these cannot be made naturally using our knowledge on every creature in rainworld. These have to be made by iterators or ancients. Leviathans, miros birds, miros vultures, king vultures and vulture grubs (tell me if I’m missing anything.) are abiotic and biotic things mixed together. Vulture masks have blood flow because they lose saturation when knocked off, They are physically connected because it takes a perfect hit to take one off and They are different in color and shape. It’s either they make the masks, acquire them somewhere else or they grow with them (most likely.) these jet packs use gas to fly and control themselves, they do not look abiotic. Therefore vulture masks are in 2 Scenarios: A Creatures of sonaria shararook or a creature who grows these masks for defense. Vultures kill demasked vultures because they probably are sickly and therefore making future vultures with stronger masks. I am 90% sure vulture masks are natural and are basically the finger print of vultures.
@@Wallace_Horsey squids can suck water in and shoot it out as a way of thrust. Arial creatures could do the same with biological gas like substance. Considering how big the vultures are it would make sense they would evolve this instead of really developed wings considering the size they would need to be to be the primary source of movement.
@@Wallace_Horsey gourmand can only make these infinite amount of items from food pips. Therefore it’s not infinite. Considering it takes up food pips as he vomits it up. It’s only natural to assume he’s vomiting food he has previously ate considering the fact food pips are being taken.
@@Wallace_Horsey oh main reason I hated the rainbow was becuase I thought it didn’t fit tight the game tbh I didn’t know rainbow vultures existed (sorry)
@@Skeletonarchmage it's fine lol, i think they're only a part of downpour and even then they're really rare so it's more of a hidden easter egg in the game. I kinda agree the original colors on the rainbow owl are very saturated and look unnatural, but in some other pictures in the video I scaled down the saturation to make them look more like the in-game rainbow vultures.
Owls technically cannot be called a vulture Only trait that owl shares with vultures is mask And I think it's gonna be hard for it, to hunt without having neck
@@Marx8679 kinda... I started the concept and made these sprites before this month even started, the upload date was just a coincidence, and they are, for the most part, made as a reference to the rainbow vultures already seen in-game. that being said, I was 100% aware of the next month was and decided to lean into it to show representation and pride. but yes, the are mostly meant to be based on the already existing rainbow vultures.
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Due to their similar size to slugcats, I think wearing a mask should trick the owls into believing you are one of them.
That’s such a good idea
It did say they were smart tho. Might not fall for that. Idk
@@Scavigger593 Maybe it could be temporary, like how vulture masks only temporarily scare lizards. Long enough to let you slip by without a fight if you want to.
@@EndertheDragon0922”oh cool another owl…. Wait a minute.”
So just small tamable vultures? Maybe u can use them like better squidcadas when tamed?
That mask would be a lifesaver in Unfortunate Development / The Rot (if they’re even still around by Rivulets time)
Went to check this out on Reddit to ensure the idea wasn’t stolen, as I’d seen it appear in my recommended a day before, and all of this is genuinely made by this person, ‘Whoa Horsey’.
The idea is well crafted, fits the Rainworld aesthetic, sound design and feel. Having the mask be a silencer makes manoeuvring areas like The Leg easier, as many enemies are based off of sound there, including the dreaded Rot (I mostly just call the ‘Rot’ cancer).
Great idea, great execution, great description and more. The idea fits well into the game, and I hope all goes well!
Thanks! I tend to post concepts on many different social media accounts before uploading the final video to youtube so I can get the opinions and thoughts of as many people as possible before finishing it up. Glad you liked it :)
@@Wallace_Horsey that’s actually a good way to do it as well, as you can see what others think before posting it somewhere that may attract more attention. It also shows what you’ve been working on as a small sneak-peak to what you may upload onto your TH-cam channel as well, so it’s intriguing for those interested in your content. Great job overall, I cannot state how good all of this is!
Problem with aesthetic of this creature is that owl has too many traits with real owls and honestly nothing such interesting
@@Pebbsi_official You imply owls themselves aren't interesting
@@ProphecyOfLunarFlame-rq2ip they're interesting, but for rain world this isn't pretty interesting
Every creature in rain world has it's differences with their real life analogs
Also they're pretty weak for predator, literally everybody gonna eat them in such cruel ecosystem
Even strawberry lizards
Maybe on the Wall, they become more active at night and have their eyes open instead of solely relying on sound. I think it would fit with the more dangerous creature spawns during that time and well… because they’re based on owls lol.
This is a really cool concept! I hope someone can implement this in a mod.
This is awesome, dude! Genuinely I want this to be an actual mod. Question: what would an owl act like without a mask? How would other owls react to that? Would they attack the maskless owl like vultures do? Can an owl even survive without a mask considering it must be knocked off by a spear to obtain?
I didn't really think about that when making them, so I guess they would behave like normal maskless vultures. I think a cool detail is that since the mask provides the silence buff, one that looses it's mask would be kicked out of a flock because loosing their silence could disrupt a hunt
Need someone to make a mod for this :0
I would love if these were added to the watcher (or nightcat)
Maybe vultures hunt alone or injured owls?
i have an idea for a new vulture variant but no way to implement it. i know how to code in c# but can't do something as complex as adding an entire new creature to the game, and i don't want to use fisobs since that mod is disgusting. my idea is the "scarab vulture": an extremely powerful vulture that looks similar to a miros vulture, but its head is the same as the ones vulture grubs have. it can breathe fire through its mouth and shoot lasers, is extremely aggressive, and difficult to kill. essentially a boss fight.
can you also make something like a miros bird variant and another vulture variant like an eagle, just a suggestion, btw nice concept
Ooooh???
How do they spawn? Like from typical dens or off screen den like other vultures, can they travel through pipes due to their size?
they would spawn in regular dens like most creatures and their small size allows them to chase prey through pipes
@@Wallace_Horsey alright, I'm sure that would be very interesting to see in-game
Hehe owls r cool
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Them being Tamable was not expected by me, it’s basically having a slightly larger slugcat buddy that has wings. I wonder how effective they are compared to the Lizards as a partner
I'd say it's about even, lizards are tankier and deal more damage but owls would be quicker and able to follow you through more regions because they can fly.
they'd be better cuddle buddies that's for sure, not shelter hogging :D
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@@ProphecyOfLunarFlame-rq2ip don't you dare
With the mask power concept, I think it would also be nice if wearing an owl mask makes them less likely to attack you and go for other prey if there are more in that one room. And if not, since it is only slightly larger than a slugcat, I would assume in dark areas like shaded citadel, an owl could mistake a slugcat with a mask for another owl, and would ignore them the first time they made noise, and only go after them the second time noise is done.
Well... considering they mute your sound entirely, owls might just be completely unable to detect you when wearing an owl mask unless they're already hunting
@@TrixterTheFemboy well maybe you could still be in their line of sight if they detect another sound from some other source, so this could be something that helps who knows.
@@TrixterTheFemboyit doesn’t make sense why the owl mask makes you quiet. Also this would be insanely op for any area with rot.
Maybe saving Owls from drowning should increase your reputation with them? Or tame those you saved?
Idk... They become grabable when wet?
or you can spear the water to make it let go of them, the same way you can save lizards from vultures
If you can drag a jetfish into the water, you can probably drag an owl onto land. They’d probably be too busy trying to survive to worry about hunting you, and they wouldn’t be able to immediately fly away with you as prey due to their wet wings, so it would give you a grace period to scurry away if dragging them out of the water didn’t fully tame them. All in all I like this idea.
I don’t care if I’ll die all the time to them, add them to the worldrain
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@@Rainworldiscool me thinking about rain world Deluxe(Rain World Remake) that literally have better graphics and you can use emotes in jolly-coop(you can make online servers! and set the player limit) and if i was the developer of this idea of my rain world remake game i would add that creature
It would be cool if tamed owls could possibly bring you prey, other food, or random items. It would also be cool if the player could break into an owl's nest and eat/steal the eggs at the cost of reputation (this could also bring up the possibility of raising automatically tamed baby owls [owlets] as a pet)
I also think it'd be really cool if they had some indicator of their damage(especially since at minimum they can't kill you in one hit), maybe higher damage ones have slightly bulkier bodies, and the mask types are connected to their damage? So, you're more likely to find wide-eyes and discs on the weaker ones, then smooth and finally spiked on the strongest ones?
reminded me of how we ('we' as in me and a friend) were originally planning a ''miros owl'' creature for a rw project, but we eventually ended up with what is now known as a ''miros crow'' instead
and also on the topic of vultures, we have a vulture with a gauss cannon strapped to its head lmao
Ah yes, harpoons weren’t enough for vultures, thus a gauss cannon was the perfect next step lol
bro they need to get this guy in the team also this feels like something that would be in the dlc
I'd say flock owls should be one-shot; mobbing sounds like it would be an excellent alternative to a QTE that fits not despite but _because_ Rain World is a movement game, but making them attack multiple times would drag it on for too long.
The time to react* should likely be ~0.65s-0.35s ±0.1s, or a flat 0.5s ±0.1s if "New dynamic difficulty" is disabled. Also they would have to be heavy, as to make the spears easy to retrieve.
*Only starting from the moment when an input should be made, so: The time you'd spend in perfect play *+* the buffer, per move; you would be spending some time walking/airborne/whatever that do not count towards these numbers, you wouldn't need a ridiculous 240 CPM. Also keep in mind the faster the "event" is, the shorter the amount of time that you would have to be concentrated.
Oooo was the tamable idea inspired by my comment????
And also when tamed I think olws should be able to be used as squidcadas of sorts?? Or maybe they hold a spear on their legs for you or yeet it. Also uh another idea that could work for smaller prey (specifically slugcat) would be picking you up and throwing you from the heights attempting to kill/stun you it'd be very cool to see this behaviour on flock owls as if each one had a role in the hunt
Perhaps spawn density would be (1 is about mole in filtration, while 0.1 is about alpha in high industrial for example)
Shaded 0.8
Underhang 1
Wall 0.3
Leg 0.4
Crypts 0.2
Farms 0.3
Grotto 0.8
Filtration 0
Shoreline 0.1
Wastes 0.1
Archipelago 0.9
Canopy 0.9
LTTM 0
Drainage 0
Suburban 0.1 (0.4 as non-monk/survivor)
Voided 0.2
High industrial 0.2 (0.7 as non-monk/survivor)
Outer expanse 0.3
Metro 0.8 (top) 0.5 (mid) 1 (bot)
Pretty sure they would absolutely thrive in saint's timelane (if they make it thru Ruffles :P) cause greens are gone and lots of zoops, as well as basically no water and high cold resistance
i cant imagine they getting stabed and falling in the ground
would be funny
scott pilgrim pfp and rainworld???? ur so cool
Very cool concept, if I was a bit more experienced with coding, I'd take a crack at it. Real life owls are often targets of harassment by other bird species, perhaps other creatures (i.e, Squidcada, if they are not considered prey by the owls) Would do so?
The only creature I have managed to make so far is a spider that shoots bombs. Coding hard.
Silent, but deadly.
Honestly this is a really good idea! I did see a lot of good suggestions in the comments so im going to list them down below.
Wearing an owl mask convincs them that you are one of their species (atleast until you get close).
You could grab Owls that enter the water to save them and that would increase reputation or instantly tame them.
You could grab tamed Owls and use them like more controlled squidcadas (maybe you could hold jump to make them fly, since you're like the same size they wouldnt fly for long or very high)
Nice, I was waiting for for another enemy concept video
What if there was a vulture that decided, “since my wings work like hands, what’s the point of wings?” and it just walks around with them
I think the owl attack would be fast, but not to fast so the player could at least get a shot in
i LOVE this thing. The other comments saying the Slugcat can "hide" as one of them is also definitely my favourite idea seen in here so far
Now, some ideas and criticism that wasn't asked for, and does not need to be valued whatsoever, incoming;
These are super cool, although for some reason the bird-ness bothers me... They don't Have to be related to Vultures in any way in order to be a flying threat, but I like that the "Vultures" barely resemble birds at all. Weird grappling things on the face, distinctly shaped masks that are more reminiscent of an insect's mandibles, unwieldy body and pathetic wing structure. It's distinctly alien but also distinctly designed, as most creatures in RW appear to be, having been meddled with and turned bio-machine aeons ago by the ancients. And since they copy a few things from the Vultures, namely the mask-developing their faces do, I would imagine there is SOME relation. Maybe their quick ascension into the sky could be aided by a smaller thruster on their body, similar to how the Vultures fly.
I like how mostly natural the Owl feels, but it also looks like... yknow, an actual owl, as if it was from earth and just ported into this alien world. It really feels like a creature who happened to evolve into it's own niche & adapt better and quicker than others- but, we've seen evolution in this game before, somewhat, and it appears pretty limited. Possibly due to the way the ancients bio-machined everything so every organism was purposed? Seeing a creature somehow make it's way out of that limitation is fascinating. I'd love if it still had evidence in it of once being purposed and from the world the ancients' built. As it is, it's a VERY natural feeling creature, maybe too natural, if that makes sense.
It would be really cool if it had a more unique facial structure as opposed to basic birdlike beak, or just a more vague silhouette, to embrace the alien-ness of the world. I remember a while ago seeing artworks showcasing the different structures of beaks and bird feet and how they're specialised to do what they do.... I imagine this Owl would have evolved specialisations to reflect it's hunting styles. Maybe the stronger an Owl is, the bigger the mask, as if they rely on swooping they'd want more hard surfaces on their body to smack into their prey and protect themselves. (I'm imagining an Owl with a funny helmet on now.... Takes proper protection to dive safely........)
Additionally, the masks totally covers their entire face. Probably works great for diving, but how are they supposed to grab anything when it's so snugly over their mouth? Hence why I suggested to do away with the beak, if they had a different structure in there like the vulture's mandibles, then the masks themselves could keep the beak shape and probably have the wriggle room underneath to allow the Owl to grab it's prey. The Vulture masks have that little divot at the front specifically to give their mouth room for use. Works fine for a long-necked turkey that just plucks it's prey up off the ground, not so much for a creature who is the same size as it's prey.
Maybe another gameplay mechanic, depending how fast the swoop is, would be to add the sightlines that King Vultures have. Maybe not the whole time it's eyes are open, rather just when it's offscreen. That gives the players opportunity to see what the Owl is thinking when they can't see the Owl itself.
And, if they hunt prey bigger than themselves I would assume some things can't be taken off into the sky with them. Maybe they can be distracted in a "feeding" state for a time, where the flock just swarms the carcass and is too busy mangling it to notice when prey better-suited to be stored in their nests makes noise.
@@spazmak666 Thanks for the feedback! My thought process behind owls looking more natural than other vultures is that they could have evolved after the ancients had acended (though we don't really know how long ago that was) and adapted to fit a more niche roll in the ecosystem. In some of the images in the video, I did add a thruster onto them to add to their relation with vultures, but in the main image showcasing them I accidentally left the thruster off, as it was screenshotted before I decided to add the thruster and I forgot to update it.
The mask being shaped like a real bird beak was to make it seem adapted to the owls hunting style. vultures grab with their madibles and fly off before the prey is actually dead, so having grabbing madibles makes sense. Owls are too small to fly off with any prey larger than a slugcat, so they would have to kill it before flying away, hence the hunting style of swooping. a sharp beak would help with piercing and stabbing damage, especially with a good amount of speed built up from a swoop.
the mask covering the whole face, I'll be honest I tried to experiment with the face showing a bit under the mask but it ended up looking weird or goofy so I just left it how it is.
Adding sightlines like with king vultures would take away from the stealth and silence aspect of owls. they're meant to use the element of surprise with their silent mask ability to ambush prey. I get how this could be seen as a bit broken, as you wouldn't be able to tell when their coming, which is why I added that they screech before a hunt, as kind of a warning to the player.
I like the idea of the feeding state, I never really went into detail or thought about how they handle their prey after catching them so I think that's a cool idea :)
They're tameable!? :D
Its moments like this i wish I knew how to code stuff
Now u have to make a mod from this concept
We NEED this in the game
How much HP do they have? Can they be instant killed by a spear?
probably around the same as a blue lizard, so 1-2 spears
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Omg, their mask would make going through the unspeakable hells of Filtration System easier
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I made a concept about a vulture species called owls as well (never shared it online though). The original concept was made a couple months ago with another species called hawks (which came first in 2023) and I've been adding to them since then. Then I coincidentally find this video today. From watching this, it's really interesting to see what other people can make with very similar ideas and have them be extremely unique. I liked the social behaviors, which is basically the opposite of my owl concept since they naturally don't have masks. The fact that you can tame them also makes this really intriguing.
How would holding both an owl and vulture mask work? Would you be able to switch hands to change which mask you’re wearing?
You should make it so that players can ride on tamed owls
I think I can see a problem with this..
I know is supposed to be a deadly creature, but even then, Isn't there any way to defend or dodge when spotted?
the same way you defend or dodge with any rain world creature; stab them or run away
@@Wallace_Horsey Uh- I think I can see it
@@Wallace_Horsey Maybe you didn't think about it much, but... What if one of the solitary owls failed to catch a prey? Would it fly back to where it was or would it start chasing it while it was flying?
Sorry for the questions! I just found this concept really interesting.
@@Random-oy7vk i guess I didn't think too hard about stuff like that, I would say they could either continue chasing their original target or fly back to their perch depending on how much health they have or how high the aggressive nature of an individual is
i saw the reddit post for this, the idea is still just as cool
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Hope you can make This a mod
I love the concept. It’s just it doesn’t make much sense for the mask to conceal their sounds. 90% of the time everything in rainworld makes sense. Why would wearing a mask conceal your sounds. Shouldn’t it just be a weaker vulture mask?
the way I see it, Rain World, while meant to act as an ecosystem simulator, is not as realistic as it seems and is still very much a "fantasy" game. In the example of vulture masks, they just don't make since at all. How do the vultures get them? they clearly don't have the ability to craft them, so is every vulture somehow born with both a mask and a pair of thrusters, two inorganic things that are physically impossible to occur in a natural ecosystem? same with the robotic jaws of a leviathan and the legs of a miros bird. How can the Gourmand just pull an infinite amount of items (including other living creatures) from its stomach or the artificer turn a spear into an explosive one by putting it in its mouth? for a "makes sense for Rain World" idea, maybe the mask is made of a special sound-absorbing material or something.
Glad you like the concept, and sorry for the long reply, I just like talking about stuff like this :)
You are naming Biotic and abiotic creatures. These have to be made by an intelligent species as these cannot be made naturally using our knowledge on every creature in rainworld. These have to be made by iterators or ancients. Leviathans, miros birds, miros vultures, king vultures and vulture grubs (tell me if I’m missing anything.) are abiotic and biotic things mixed together. Vulture masks have blood flow because they lose saturation when knocked off, They are physically connected because it takes a perfect hit to take one off and They are different in color and shape. It’s either they make the masks, acquire them somewhere else or they grow with them (most likely.) these jet packs use gas to fly and control themselves, they do not look abiotic. Therefore vulture masks are in 2 Scenarios: A Creatures of sonaria shararook or a creature who grows these masks for defense. Vultures kill demasked vultures because they probably are sickly and therefore making future vultures with stronger masks. I am 90% sure vulture masks are natural and are basically the finger print of vultures.
@@Wallace_Horsey squids can suck water in and shoot it out as a way of thrust. Arial creatures could do the same with biological gas like substance. Considering how big the vultures are it would make sense they would evolve this instead of really developed wings considering the size they would need to be to be the primary source of movement.
@@Wallace_Horsey artificer has explosive saliva, they clearly didn’t make a whole new sprite for artificers explosives.
@@Wallace_Horsey gourmand can only make these infinite amount of items from food pips. Therefore it’s not infinite. Considering it takes up food pips as he vomits it up. It’s only natural to assume he’s vomiting food he has previously ate considering the fact food pips are being taken.
I know it’s a mod and I love this concept however I really hate the rainbow variant
regular rainbow vultures already exist in rain world, the rainbow owls are meant to be referencing that (same with albino)
@@Wallace_Horsey oh main reason I hated the rainbow was becuase I thought it didn’t fit tight the game tbh I didn’t know rainbow vultures existed (sorry)
@@Skeletonarchmage it's fine lol, i think they're only a part of downpour and even then they're really rare so it's more of a hidden easter egg in the game. I kinda agree the original colors on the rainbow owl are very saturated and look unnatural, but in some other pictures in the video I scaled down the saturation to make them look more like the in-game rainbow vultures.
Owls technically cannot be called a vulture
Only trait that owl shares with vultures is mask
And I think it's gonna be hard for it, to hunt without having neck
Nice I could do without the pride month owl tho
the rainbow variant is based on the regular rainbow vultures already seen in-game and is not meant purely for pride month
Regular vultures have a rainbow variant and since these are also vultures, they have it
Oh so it’s a coincidence
@@Marx8679 kinda... I started the concept and made these sprites before this month even started, the upload date was just a coincidence, and they are, for the most part, made as a reference to the rainbow vultures already seen in-game. that being said, I was 100% aware of the next month was and decided to lean into it to show representation and pride. but yes, the are mostly meant to be based on the already existing rainbow vultures.
ok