These ‘solar’ plants are not like the ones on your house… they use mirrors to focus heat to make molten salt, the salt stays hot for long time, they turn the heat into steam… the solar plant runs night & day once salt is molten… A big down side is it makes a death ray they kills birds & bugs that fly by. If we line the migration routs with death rays , it will have huge butterfly effect!
I agree Edit: why are ppl saying he’s wrong? People, it’s obvious the solar penal’s will go 2 metres up in the air! why u guys are still replying to me, anyways I saw this comment with 3 likes, and I didn’t think it would react 30k+ likes. So I just agreed, I wasn’t thinking this guy would get close to what it is now. I thought bc he has a tick, means he wouldn’t blow up. Yet he got 30k+ likes, bc his comment is really funny mediocre humour. :)
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that since the Sahara Desert is mostly sand, actually it doesn't have a defined surface, and, the winds make it constantly change, hills turning into valleys and vice versa.
@@It_aint_let_me_put_the_amongus Wait? Deserts are made out of sand? God damnit, I've been trying to build solar paners under water. I mistook them to sonar panels, no wonder my navigation was fucked. Fuck!
@@zoubeirfaouzi149 they can build solar panels high enough. I live there and there are high buildings it's not that big of a deal. After enough digging the ground start to ne solid.
The video already addresses the fact that a large part of the Sahara recieves 4x the amount of sunlight than most of northern Europe, making the efficiency by cost of the solar panels more effective. In reality a system like this would only supply electricity to Europe and Western Asia because of a number of issues mainly the tranmission losses and therefore the size of interconnectors to go further... I'm not saying that isn't a solvable problem, just everything else can be completed with current levels of technology!
@@joshuagarcia8885 And how much affect do sandstorms have on existing plants such as the ones in Morocco... to me that seems a very simple problem to solve, so what if you have to employ thousands of african labourers to maintain them. Good! Good jobs for domestic workers. I also didn't even point out the issue with the angle of solar panels on roofs in northern climates further reducing the efficiency of said panels. And the many other problems with local electricity infrastructure across Europe.
@@joshuagarcia8885 Nowhere is perfect, rooftop solar has to contend with falling leaves, snow... etc All I'm suggesting is that purpose built solar farms in high solar regions is a better solution to the need for large and increasing electricity needs is better than "just putting solar panels on poeples homes". Many people neglect that most countries electricity grids are built based on a 'tree and branches' type design where energy flows out from a few large power stations and is spread out into communities, grids are designed based around that and not around many smaller "power plants" (panels on peoples roofs). Introducing new large energy sources and upgrading existing infrastructure is easier than reengineering infrastructure. Having large production plants also means systems can be implemented to maintain efficiency of producting unlike they can with many on a smaller scale and also production can continue into the evening when consumption is at its highest (molten salt based solar), as described in the video.
not really. panels can be placed on towers. and spaced to allow sunlight through. add an intelligent irrigation system and the shade provided by the panels would provide a growing space. not your typical field farming. but perhaps green houses.
I can see a solar punk story called “The Glass Continent” where several cities are made across the Sahara and everyone is insulated in glass domes with unlimited air conditioning. Utopia has arrived!
I like how he says "now you're probably wondering how solar panels work," as if he's going to explain it, then advertises his sponsor and leaves you in the dark
A man once said "Let us go to the sun" to his friend. His friend replied "Are you crazy? It is too hot, we will die!" The man then said "No you dummy, let us go at night".
Planting solar panels in the Sahara would also mean they'd need to be elevated as well considering that lowered panels could end up covered in sand from one wind storm.
5:37 For those wondering why are they arranged in a sunflower pattern, its because the sunflower pattern follows Fibonacci sequence and the useful part is that arrangement doesn't allow the shadow of one panel to cast on other panel
When thinking about having the whole world’s source of electricity in one spot I can’t help to think about how crucial security would have to be for it (Hackers, terrorists, etc.).
Well, for effective use, the entirety of the Sahara doesn’t need to be covered, just the hottest areas where no life can survive. If the gathered solar energy can converted efficiently, there are a lot of places on the continent that could use the energy to improve the lifestyle of the people living there.
@Marc Kempe- there is life in every corner of the desert. Life is everywhere, always, even the furnace vents of the ocean @ 175 degrees F Life is everywhere it's just, often we're not aware of it or not listening.
absolutely possible. And we can use lifepo4 battery to keep the energy. But the problem is: Oil and gas company WON'T let this happened. Energy Companies need profit
@@yozerizki8136 oil and gas companies are going downhill as far as profits go. Elon Musk has all but ensured that they will be a relic of the past in the very near future. Anyway, as far as solar energy goes, it can still be distributed evenly and effectively so profits will be made, but what is truly important is proper maintenance of the solar panels. If they aren’t working properly, the project is a bust.
In harvesting light energy from the sun, the solar panel uses photovoltaic effects to convert light directly into electricity. It is light, not heat, that generates electricity - and too much heat can actually hinder the electricity-making process.
Generally speaking, you don't want to put all of your power resources in one single area. It simply makes it too easy in a conflict for an opposing power to completely take out your entire grid.
@@nyquist_control You mean how the US pressured their allies to put unreasonable sanctions on Russia so now the cost of oil and other commodities has gone up for a war that the US started 10 years ago? Consider the fact that Russia wasn't encroaching on territory, it was defending itself from secret biolabs that the US / NATO was funding, which is ironic considering that Ukraine isn't a part of NATO and it was a soviet country until about 10 years ago when it flipped 180 degrees due to WEF funding. Russia isn't innocent, they allied themselves with the Clintons and other bad actors as proven via Hunter's laptop but they had the right to defend themselves when their neighbor was threatening to release bio agents. The story gets a lot more deep but what you see on the news is disconnected with reality and it's a shame that there are so many people who believe in that crap.
Though it probably will happen at some point in our future, the very act of constructing infrastructure into the heart of the hottest zone in the Sahara would require the road and construction crews to be equipped with what would probably have to be formerly used NASA space suits and massive water trucks. The heat and direct sunlight in the Sahara is almost otherworldly, especially as temperatures and UV rays only get more and more intense with each passing year. Working in the hot zone of the Saraha will eventually feel more like the surface of mercury than it does the surface of earth, the workers will need thermal and UV shielding and continuous hydration to work under sustained conditions. Once the infrastructure is in place and the solar plant is operational, this would no longer be necessary, as workers could be flown in via helicopter or plane in regulated shifts like an oil rig (or you could construct a bullet train with all the power the plant produces), but the building of the infrastructure alone would be an incredible feat of human engineering, innovation, and endurance that would last many years and billions of dollars to accomplish. That being said... if we ever hope to one day build something like a Dyson Sphere or a massive Solar Sail.. the Sahara's hot zone would be an excellent place to test and innovate the technology.
Some of you guys have smooth brains, did any of you ever consider that we could get raid shadow legends to sponsor the project and already have all the needed money
What is not realized is that solar Farms are super HOT... I worked at a small area with maybe 500 panels and it was 20-30° Hotter. It could be 100° Outside but that specific solar panel area was 130ish. If it can get that much hotter i couldn't imagine how much hotter the Sahara would get.
You’ll need lots of silver. The project would require more than the entire mined supply for years. This would push the price up and also the cost. I suppose someone calculated this.
@@sorenwintherlundbys me too! Just so you know, the amount of silver mined each year is about 800 million ounces, but it’s been declining since 2015, it was previously about 950. An additional 100-200 million ounces is available due to melt/recycling. Currently solar accounts for about 100 million ounces a year. It’s not growing as fast as new solar because manufacturers are trying to minimize silver usage, it’s known as “thrifting”. Anyway, there’s no surplus, in fact we have been whittling the supply down these last couple years. If a massive amount of solar panels were to be ordered, it would cause a huge price surge. And FYI: Electric vehicles use 2-4x the amount of silver as internal combustion cars, which will also be taxing supply. usage for all vehicles is currently about the same as solar, but it’s about to grow drastically. That’s my contribution. Tell me anything you think I’d like to also know!
Don't forget the glass needed. If sand is needed to make the glass, then they're in for a shock when they realise that there is an ever increasing shortage of appropriate sand for that endeavour. And if you think you could just use desert sand, think again... not as easy.
@@lavh4406 thats just ignorant everything needs a price or else everything is worthless and if everything is worthless then whats the point of achieving something if u gain nothing from if u work at mcdonalds and the food is free then u dont get paid then whats the point of showing up
Chinese Bitcoin miners do be like "hold my truckload of RTX" now that the Chinese government is clamping down on crypto and the miners are all dumping their GPUs as fast as they can.
Can you image the target that would be for a terrorist or hacker organization?!? Possibly crippling the entire world's energy source?!? Put all the world's eggs in one tempting basket. Can you image the political power the land owners would have? I don't think that power would be relinquished that easily by other countries.
@@pbase36 I just think that nations have a lot of difficulties working together when not under extreme conditions. This project can be done but I am not optimistic it would go smoothly and not have a host of political problems that could possibly tear it apart. I tend to have a pessimistic view of humanity being able to adequately work together.
@@arthurpendragon3000 the biggest terrorist organisation in the world is the United States government. Looks like the Sahara desert needs some "democracy"
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@@acertainkirakuin He makes a good point. The problem isn't that there's not enough money... the problem is that those who have most of that money don't want renewable energy because many of their fortunes are built on fossil fuels. Investing that money into a NM sized solar energy plant would be a huge boon to 99% of the population, but the 1% of people holding the amount of money it would take to do it would be sacrificing their hold on their massively lopsided share of the world's wealth. They'd rather spend that money on lobbyists supporting legislation that forces the continued use of sub-par, inefficient, and dirty services and products they provide and blocking new more efficient and clean products or services from improving lives and moving humanity forward. That control is their infinite money cheat.
@@davepeesthepool bad reasoning. maybe We use fossil fuels because it's more efficient, reliable,and last longer than renewable energy. You know those solar panels and windmills don't last that long compared to traditional fuels and are not even that much greener when you take into account the production. And do you understand that the 1% is millions of people. do you think They all know each other and agree on everything? And if the 1% is so greedy why wouldn't they pursue renewable Energy if it's better than traditional Fuels to make more money?
This video took me on a ride "oh that seems like a bad idea" "hey no this is a GREAT idea" "wait no bad bad bad" "hang on.. but it would be so great" "ok definitely no bad idea"
Anything you do on continental scale will change environment. And any change to environment will kill a lot of species (because they are adapted to the current environment).
@@YashTrivedispaceport6492 not really, for a lot of reasons it's much better to spread them around the globe than to put them in one place. First of all - power lines have loses, the larger the distance between panels and the consumer - the more energy is lost to heat. Second issue - we don't have battery technology good enough to run whole world through the night from energy stored in the day. So we need to spread the cells in such way that always half of them are where sun is. Third issue is heat - solar panels increase heat where they are (because they reflect less sun), and they work less efficient if there is too much heat where they are. So it's not good to put too much of them in one place cause they interfere with each other. Ideally we should put solar panels in a line around the equator and move energy vertically from that line to each country :) Even better if we could move that ring into orbit and beam the energy directly to consumers :)
2:33 Morocco isn't going to sell surplus energy to Europe. It's the opposite, Europe built this energy station in Morocco and it will sell some surpluses to Morocco for a hefty price.
No europe invested in the project. As did golf countries. The tech was provided by EU, mainly spain for btp and germany for the panel tech and electricity tech. The tech itself was experimental thats why Morocco used 3 different models (CSP, CSP tower, PV). The energy is being used in Morocco although the CSP tech didnt prove to be cost effective enough and thus the excess energy cost is being sibsidised by the state (through MASEN).
All the people who are pouring in the problem statements are actually contributing in making this project a success. Great job guys post more negatives which can take place in this project so a better and robust Risk management plan can be created to make it a success.👍👍🎉
You forgot about power transmission losses. A 360kV power line will lose about 15% of power per 1,000km. So to send electricity from Sahara to the US, Japan, or Australia you'd lose 85% of the power. With such huge distances you'd also need many transformers on the way, which waste even more power. So you'd be lucky if the US would receive 5% of the initially generated power. These losses are another problem for putting solar panels on deserts. Because they're usually far away from big cities which require the most electricity.
The US has nevada, idaho, arizona and new mexico, and the same could easily be accomplished. I dont mean "we need all of these states to be PV arrays" - We need something like 62 sq miles to power the contiguous US. thats like the size of cincinnati
The Sahara desert is like a slow motion undulating sea in continuous motion.the logistics of keeping the panels above the sand and clean would be staggering. And how long does a solar panel last in a sand blaster.
And don't forget the amount of security you would need, in that part of the world. The area around the Sahara has been in almost permanent conflict for decades. Everybody and their mum, would be attacking these solarpanels all the time. So you would never get any stable power supply from that system.
@Uzi Khan So you don't think all the war lords and other criminals down there, who wants to keep people in poverty, would try to destroy something that would bring prosperity to the people? What about "Al Shabaab" "Al Qaeda", "Boko Haram"? None of them allow modern technology. They want people to live in the stone age. They would attack before the system was even build. Security is an issue in Africa. And no!, I'm not against a project like this. I think it would be super cool if it could be made. But we need to be realistic. People don't run away from Africa for no reason.
@@RandomUser6947 give thoses people free energy and many konflicts will just disappear because one problem is land to life in and with free energie the can settle in regions that are have to life in because of heat just take away one problem in people live like money for energy and give them a oportuntiy to do something else if you have free power you could plan mass projekt other then just solar plants in sahara like deep mining for gold platin titan the nation with free unlimited power it the nation that can deal this small problems like terror organisations or war lords just buy another nations protecton like the continet of EU or america free unlimited power is like a holy grail and nations will so every thing to protect it for even mass genocide on heligion terrorists western nation have crushed other nations and organisation for lesser things than that...
But wouldn't all the dust on the panels block them from accepting as much energy? Cos the wind storms there would have them covered the same day theyre installed
To clean the sand off, each solar panel would need to be attached to a robot arm. The robot arm would need to flip the solar panels upside down regularly to shake the sand off. You would definitely need some robots to clean those panels. No human is going to work there.
Helicopter blades would do the trick quick....wait bad idea. That would just coat the other panels, unless it was organized like lawn care workers with leaf blowers. I've seen helicopter pilots do cool stuff. So maybe?
Wendover Productions covered this topic and brought up the good point that there are very few routes to get the electricity from the Sahara to Europe and Asia. Upgrading the existing infrastructure would be quite expensive as well.
Assuming they spent 20 years placing all of the solar panels they could in theory just replace them in the path that they first placed them not counting ones that need maintenance just randomly
The true reason why this isn't a thing is very simple: It costs money and africa doesn't have it. Why would western powers want africa to get rich anyway?
“Immediately” This would be so awesome but “immediately switch” is short sided. Working in construction, I know that the instillation of anything in the middle of nowhere is a challenge. This would take decades unfortunately.
@@ndrsg3013 the chinese are busy working on their nuclear fusion reactor so it's ready to run in 2035 ish, I doubt they would even waste a second on solar energy.
I think this is an awesome concept to explore, although I feel that two things should've been looked at: the shear amount of silicon, copper, and other resources used in building such an array, and how they would withstand the heat. It's no secret that the Sahara is incredibly hot, so that begs the question: would that destroy the panels or any of their components? If the sand, with yellow-ish colored surfaces on their grains, could reach 80 Celcius, then what would a black (or blue) surface reach in the same intensity of sunlight, and would it surpass safe levels of heat absorption in the electronic components?
The simple answer: They are not gonna use silicon based solar panels at all. In the desert, a much easier solution for getting energy from the sun is just a bunch of mirrors focusing on a tower with something that can get heated, turn to a gas and power a turbine. In fact, this is what we see in the beginning when the Quarzazate plant is shown.
Well the equivalent energy of a square meter of sunlight is approximately 1000W whereas the best solar panels nowadays could only produce about 300w per square meter. If you could store that energy AND convert it to a convenient 230V 50Hz AC without any losses... then Bob's your uncle ;)
It is not the solar panels that are expensive, but the means for energy storage. Currently, it is not possible to efficiently store solar energy on a large scale.
Interesting synopsis, but you’re leaving out two of the most important aspects: 1. What’s the environmental cost to produce all of those solar panels, and how long will they last? 2. How would you keep the PV surface clean so they actually produce the max output they’re capable of?
@The Big and how much bigger would the array have to be to power a fan on every panel, and what would be the material cost and damage to the environment to produce all of these fans?
@The Big oh really? So, those solar panels will last forever, huh? And the fans too? Solar panels don’t even have a lifespan long enough to pay back their initial cost, let alone offset all of the carbon emissions/pollution from the required fossil fuels to mine, refine, manufacture, transport, install, run, and dispose of them at the end of their lifespan.
@The Big That's not how energy generation works buddy, you can't have a machine powering the very thing that makes it function, and then tap into that. If that were the case then we would've solved the energy crisis by now. Not to mention heat dissipation and wear, along with the sand producing micro-scratches along the solar array. There are many issues that need to be dealt with before creating a solar farm in the Sahara.
@@hokorikera do you know how quickly the sands shift. You could fall asleep one night in an open flat area of the desert but wake up to a huge sand dune in front of you
In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, you get the women. -Tony Montana
This is exactly what happened in the stort "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir and they got one of the most efficient and craziest amounts of energy but with a cost.
Huge tragedy everyone is so cautious on nuclear power.... Chernobyl? Experimental and flawed reactor design that would never come close to being approved anywhere else outside the Soviet Union (ok maybe NK..) Fukushima? Ok...who the hell puts a nuclear reactor in a tsunami/earthquake prone area? 3 Mile Island? it has pretty much been proven no lasting consequences have come from it...plus, we've had 50 years to advance technology
Mrbeast net worth is about 30 mil , such project will need trillions of dollars (1 trillion = 1000 billion , 1 billion = 1000 million) , you guys are overestimating mrbeast , i love him but not even close
The issue is that power doesn't store well. It's also difficult to transport over distances, there's too much energy loss. That is why we don't have panels all over the deserts in California to power the rest of the US. The energy depletes over distances.
When someone has looked at Google maps to find funny Stuff from there. For anyone who doesnt get what he means:Chad is a Real country in Africa, between Sudan and Niger.
@@STORMFIRE07 ....considering how many fossil fuels go into 1 panel, and the replacement of panels on that scale... yeah, no, its isnt that viable. Especially compared to other, far cleaner green energy methods that can produce far more energy with far less material requirements and overall less CO2 footprint..
This concept of planet wide energy self sufficiency is also known as the Kardashev scale. I believe humanity is still a Type 0 civ. If we were to ever get all of our energy needs from the sun, we'd finally advance to a Type 1 civ. There are 5 additional advancements after that including the harnessing of energy from the solar system and progressively larger energy sources like pulsars and black holes.
The natural climate cycles of the Earth create massive heating and cooling events over the ten thousand and hundred thousand year time scales. These occur inevitably and over enough time that humans adapt. Unnamed future generations will inhabit a frozen Italy and a balmy Antarctica. God Bless them. Next.
@@pietsnotty8283 They always do it. Think of the hyperloop, california's HSR, solar roads, prepping to go to mars and etc. It's standard procedure in what if videos. Who knows what the local regions' politics and money for infrastructure will allow, including hte politics in places like Europe. There are certain super powers that want to keep on making money with what they export. Still excited in things like this and MSR plants.
@@pietsnotty8283 When he was doing the cost he used the price of a commercial panel to your house, added a bunch of made up numbers and came up with the cost of 1k per panel. Even this ignored cleaning, maintenance and replacement cost as I doubt the panels would last more than a few years in such harsh conditions. Or the fact most solar farms use panels far more expensive and efficient than the stuff you can get commercially for your home.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Ok, but the idea remains. If people would use solar panels more, for their homes and on bigger scales in multiple places, bye energy problem
@@pietsnotty8283 If you or i can buy one single solar panel for our homes for $200 and they need 50bil panels they aren't going to pay $1000 each to buy and install them. They could build all the infrastructure and a giant solar panel factory in the center of the Sahara for a few 10s of billions.
6:46 "what will happen now"? Let me answer that question for you: at that moment the whole region becomes even more politically unstable as multiple factions will try to get access to this source of income, starting devastating wars, destroying the project in process and end up looking like shocked pikachu when the whole world gets mad at them.
@@Dan_Kanerva Yes but these countries have little to no law enforcement. Like Mali for example. It has lowest number of police officers/1000 people. So thieves won't be stopped by the government even if they wanted to.
So basically, setting up small solar farms here and there around big deserts = good idea, provides lots of electricity. Covering the whole desert in solar farms = bad idea, totally changes Earth's weather patterns.
@@femsplainer just because something is not completely green does not mean we don't have to change to the greener and more energy efficient alternative (don't say fusion energy because that won't be developed for the next 10-30 years by some estimates, and fission is used but is thought of as not as "safe" as solar)
@@aceofspades9640 Who said anything about "completely green"? I'm saying that they're not even green at all when you take them to scale, sometimes even before that (look up the carbon footprint of putting up wind turbines sometime). Sure once they're up and running they can be green, but that is incredibly myopic to ignore the carbon footprint of getting there. I mean seriously just look at all the fools saying we need to stop using gas vehicles and switch to electric ones, while failing to realize that the electricity they use is generally in the ballpark of 95% COAL power. The perception of being green is the problem because in most cases they are actually WORSE for the environment on multiple levels including their overall carbon footprint. The people who buy them seem to be totally ignorant of this fact and think they're solving a problem and being virtuous, but they're actually not. I wasn't going to say fusion, and I'm pretty sure we're much further off than 10-30 years. After all they've been saying that every 10-30 years for almost the last 70 years. Fission Nuclear power does have a perception of being less safe than solar, but in reality they're actually safer. It's basically the same problem that air travel has. Flying is an incredibly safe way to travel, far more so than by automobile, and yet there are tons of people that fear flying because when things go wrong they go very wrong, but the overall statistics do not lie.
People: You can't get resources to the Sahara, it's remote and hardly any road People building infrastructure in Siberia and Arctic for decades: And I took that personally!
Siberia and artic are a bit different than deserts. It's easier to build on hard frozen surfaces rather then sandy surfaces that don't stay in one place when you build on it.
I really appreciate how he basically answered the question in the first few seconds of the video for people looking for a quick answer, and had the rest of the video for people who are more curious. Well thought out
If they wanted to do this, some of the countries in the region wouldn’t maintain it properly and terror groups would probably destroy large parts of it within a few years.
His idea is just crap... And this is why: The gigantic surface of the panels would cause a massive refraction of the rays directly towards the Sun by mirror effect, which would risk causing a substantial but not insignificant increase in its temperature during the time of exposure of the panels to the rays. This could have the effect of increasing by causal effect the terrestrial temperature due to the increase in the intensity of the radiation induced by this new storage of redirected rays potentially responsible for the increase in solar temperature. This could have very deleterious impacts on the ozone layer and could also accelerate global warming ...
One of my professor posted a similar question in test where we had to calculate the area of panels needed to power the entire USA. The references I used showed me that the best solar panels in market produce electricity at about 20% efficiency, which is 10 times better than what nature has achieved by photosynthesis, but nowhere close to your assumption of 100% that you made in this video.
The maximum for solar energy is about 33%, while we are already at 26%. So whoever was responsible for calculating this video did a terrible job, considering there was any
I think his words are true, but you did not understand the idea, that the efficiency of 20% is the amount of benefit from photosynthesis in kilowatts per square meter. The company calculated it and gave you the figure of 350 watts, and now they have reached 650 watts and more in some countries. What I want to say, if the benefit was 100%, I would have taken a kilowatt and more per square meter of land
That is neat. To bad the sand storms from the wind would ruin the panels, costing trillions in repairs, which is also why the edges of the Sahara is better as well.
I have little knowledge of meteorology, but where water evaporates is not necessarily where it rains. I think the general rule is that the wind blows away from a hot area (because hot air generally has high pressure so it goes to lower pressure). Philip Shenon wrote in NY Times in 1995, "The waves of heat that rise from the mined-out plateau drive away rain clouds" This agrees with what the video said about inviting rain. But the importance is in the differences in pressures, between Sahara and areas around Sahara. Essentially, Sahara cools down, but at what magnitude, compared with its surroundings? -------------- About heating up the world, I also think that black solar panels would contribute to this. Idk how this plan (in the video) would affect other nations' economy, but if they wind up buying energy from Sahara, they would probably cut some of their heat-producing power plants. Idk if this is net heat loss (or gain). Whatever the answer is returns us to the question about the differences in pressures.
"save the earth people" are ignorant. They don't realize that it takes a MASSIVE amount of pollution to manufacture/produce solar panels and solar fans. For every one that's manufactured, it uses the same amount of pollution as a regular sedan uses in 2.4 years. Sssooooo.....to just break even, if the US made this many to cover the entire Sahara, it would take about, 400 plus years to just break even with the pollution amounts. Lmao.
"lets assume the solar panels are 100% efficient" every engineer watching has a stroke
As an Engineer, I recognize a simplified assumption to be corrected if the back-of-the-envelope calculation says there's a chance.
Me: so the earth won't catch on fire?
Everyone: .....
Bye bye birds
yea i think even the best monocrystalline panels are at around 23% efficiency
These ‘solar’ plants are not like the ones on your house… they use mirrors to focus heat to make molten salt, the salt stays hot for long time, they turn the heat into steam… the solar plant runs night & day once salt is molten…
A big down side is it makes a death ray they kills birds & bugs that fly by. If we line the migration routs with death rays , it will have huge butterfly effect!
Amazing idea. Too bad it won’t happen and the panels will probably be in the sand a day after being installed
At least Morocco does a demo edition
I agree
Edit: why are ppl saying he’s wrong? People, it’s obvious the solar penal’s will go 2 metres up in the air!
why u guys are still replying to me, anyways I saw this comment with 3 likes, and I didn’t think it would react 30k+ likes.
So I just agreed, I wasn’t thinking this guy would get close to what it is now. I thought bc he has a tick, means he wouldn’t blow up. Yet he got 30k+ likes, bc his comment is really funny mediocre humour. :)
Sandstorm
Make them 2 meters in the air
Most of the Sahra isn´t sand, but rocks and gravel, but I was thinking the same thing haha.
African Solar Energy Superpower? Also, 60% of the world's GDP seems totally worth it for the energy.
Who needs kyber crystals when we got sun power.
remember the imperials spent >60% of their gdp on the death stars lol
but its's challenging
Its İmpossible though
wow
I'm surprised that you didn't mention that since the Sahara Desert is mostly sand, actually it doesn't have a defined surface, and, the winds make it constantly change, hills turning into valleys and vice versa.
Man I learnt something new the sahara desert is mostly sand
They build sky scrapers in Sand
@@It_aint_let_me_put_the_amongus Wait? Deserts are made out of sand? God damnit, I've been trying to build solar paners under water. I mistook them to sonar panels, no wonder my navigation was fucked. Fuck!
@Saif Hope near the coast where ground is more solid. Deep in the Sahara it's just sand. Rocks and sand.
@@zoubeirfaouzi149 they can build solar panels high enough. I live there and there are high buildings it's not that big of a deal. After enough digging the ground start to ne solid.
I still like the idea of just putting solar panels on every home. That space is already taken up
The video already addresses the fact that a large part of the Sahara recieves 4x the amount of sunlight than most of northern Europe, making the efficiency by cost of the solar panels more effective. In reality a system like this would only supply electricity to Europe and Western Asia because of a number of issues mainly the tranmission losses and therefore the size of interconnectors to go further... I'm not saying that isn't a solvable problem, just everything else can be completed with current levels of technology!
@@Hileeeee sandstorms my guy
@@joshuagarcia8885 And how much affect do sandstorms have on existing plants such as the ones in Morocco... to me that seems a very simple problem to solve, so what if you have to employ thousands of african labourers to maintain them. Good! Good jobs for domestic workers.
I also didn't even point out the issue with the angle of solar panels on roofs in northern climates further reducing the efficiency of said panels. And the many other problems with local electricity infrastructure across Europe.
@@Hileeeee Sandstorms hit harder in other areas of the desert. You would be hard pressed to find a plant in such areas.
@@joshuagarcia8885 Nowhere is perfect, rooftop solar has to contend with falling leaves, snow... etc
All I'm suggesting is that purpose built solar farms in high solar regions is a better solution to the need for large and increasing electricity needs is better than "just putting solar panels on poeples homes".
Many people neglect that most countries electricity grids are built based on a 'tree and branches' type design where energy flows out from a few large power stations and is spread out into communities, grids are designed based around that and not around many smaller "power plants" (panels on peoples roofs). Introducing new large energy sources and upgrading existing infrastructure is easier than reengineering infrastructure.
Having large production plants also means systems can be implemented to maintain efficiency of producting unlike they can with many on a smaller scale and also production can continue into the evening when consumption is at its highest (molten salt based solar), as described in the video.
“Turn on infinite money”
Venezuela: now you’re talking
Darc
At least this is actually produces value rather than numbers.
Weimar Germany: catch up
🤣
@@JohnSmith-wx9wj Value to who and at what cost?
"North Africa becomes fertile for farming"
Yeah, but in order to farm the now green land, you have to remove the panels covering the land.
No, not really
Also the moisture would create clouds, blocking more light to the solar panels
Actually the Densely populated areas in North Africa are fertile and agricultural
@Arawashi Pilot Oniiko that’s an insult?
not really. panels can be placed on towers. and spaced to allow sunlight through. add an intelligent irrigation system and the shade provided by the panels would provide a growing space. not your typical field farming. but perhaps green houses.
After the first sand storm, half of the area with solar panels is 5m down under sand.
ok so we add windmills from all the sandy sand
Exactly!
If all desert is covered with panels then how sand will come?
@@j12325 The desert is much bigger than you can cover it
@@38MQ that's why this is assumed,he comsiderd total area
I can see a solar punk story called “The Glass Continent” where several cities are made across the Sahara and everyone is insulated in glass domes with unlimited air conditioning. Utopia has arrived!
I would watch that black mirror episode XD !
@Brupcat probably just a massive company charging too much for energy. Pretty much how it is now
😂
@Brupcat the catch is theres only one thermostat and it can never be changed.
do it
I like how he says "now you're probably wondering how solar panels work," as if he's going to explain it, then advertises his sponsor and leaves you in the dark
Sun -> Panels -> Energy
(With some science stuff)
I don't need to know how it works, I just need to know that it does.
@@scotth6814 nobody needs to, but some people want to
Murica
@@Bigmeatlover perfectly said
A man once said "Let us go to the sun" to his friend. His friend replied "Are you crazy? It is too hot, we will die!" The man then said "No you dummy, let us go at night".
okayyy?
I am not seeing the problem, what's actually the issue here?
@@paracetamol256 there is no issue, I mean I always visit the sun at night
@@paracetamol256 its a joke
@@maten3315 what's a joke? I mean this makes sense yeah? At night when the sun's out we can plan an expedition. The NASA guys should think about this.
Planting solar panels in the Sahara would also mean they'd need to be elevated as well considering that lowered panels could end up covered in sand from one wind storm.
Like building eolic turbines, but instead of a turbine they place a solar panel in it.
Do you think Sahara is a sand desert? Only 15% is sand desert...
@@Antesyd I'm assuming you deleted because you realized that sand gets carried by the winds.
>covers entire Sahara with solar panels
>Refuses to elaborate
>Leaves
**Inserts Gigachad.jpeg**
virgin .jpeg vs chad .png
That's how Elon musk would propose this project
trilionare grindset
solar energy sigma
"Raises global temperature causing greater damage"
5:37 For those wondering why are they arranged in a sunflower pattern, its because the sunflower pattern follows Fibonacci sequence and the useful part is that arrangement doesn't allow the shadow of one panel to cast on other panel
underrated comment spotted!
what does the fibonacci sequence have to do with it
@@AlmondChocolateMilk still fail to see why
Nice nice
@Karosnikov Well, no kidding
When thinking about having the whole world’s source of electricity in one spot I can’t help to think about how crucial security would have to be for it (Hackers, terrorists, etc.).
A hacker would prob try to stop terrorism cause you know they need electricity
@@Redman_real I mean as a hacker imagine literally being able to hold the entire world hostage, would be pretty cool
One spot that is larger than the US. If you decentralize it a both shouldn't be an issue.
If it is owned by one company we would have another issue too
@Peter Evans You wouldn't connect all and use multiple transfer cables.
Well, for effective use, the entirety of the Sahara doesn’t need to be covered, just the hottest areas where no life can survive. If the gathered solar energy can converted efficiently, there are a lot of places on the continent that could use the energy to improve the lifestyle of the people living there.
the problem with that is that there's not much infrastructure there to support development and maintenance.
@Marc Kempe- there is life in every corner of the desert. Life is everywhere, always, even the furnace vents of the ocean @ 175 degrees F Life is everywhere it's just, often we're not aware of it or not listening.
absolutely possible. And we can use lifepo4 battery to keep the energy.
But the problem is:
Oil and gas company WON'T let this happened.
Energy Companies need profit
@@yozerizki8136 oil and gas companies are going downhill as far as profits go. Elon Musk has all but ensured that they will be a relic of the past in the very near future. Anyway, as far as solar energy goes, it can still be distributed evenly and effectively so profits will be made, but what is truly important is proper maintenance of the solar panels. If they aren’t working properly, the project is a bust.
In harvesting light energy from the sun, the solar panel uses photovoltaic effects to convert light directly into electricity. It is light, not heat, that generates electricity - and too much heat can actually hinder the electricity-making process.
Generally speaking, you don't want to put all of your power resources in one single area. It simply makes it too easy in a conflict for an opposing power to completely take out your entire grid.
They would lose their power to
@@DaRKWizaRdGaming0 no... Just look at what Russia is doing with their natural gas and oil supplies.
@@nyquist_control yes. They are decoupling from the rest of the world. They are saying no to a one world govt and that’s a good thing.
@@nyquist_control You mean how the US pressured their allies to put unreasonable sanctions on Russia so now the cost of oil and other commodities has gone up for a war that the US started 10 years ago? Consider the fact that Russia wasn't encroaching on territory, it was defending itself from secret biolabs that the US / NATO was funding, which is ironic considering that Ukraine isn't a part of NATO and it was a soviet country until about 10 years ago when it flipped 180 degrees due to WEF funding. Russia isn't innocent, they allied themselves with the Clintons and other bad actors as proven via Hunter's laptop but they had the right to defend themselves when their neighbor was threatening to release bio agents. The story gets a lot more deep but what you see on the news is disconnected with reality and it's a shame that there are so many people who believe in that crap.
@@DaRKWizaRdGaming0 He’s saying it would give North Africa all the power to shut off the worlds power when ever they feel like it
Though it probably will happen at some point in our future, the very act of constructing infrastructure into the heart of the hottest zone in the Sahara would require the road and construction crews to be equipped with what would probably have to be formerly used NASA space suits and massive water trucks. The heat and direct sunlight in the Sahara is almost otherworldly, especially as temperatures and UV rays only get more and more intense with each passing year. Working in the hot zone of the Saraha will eventually feel more like the surface of mercury than it does the surface of earth, the workers will need thermal and UV shielding and continuous hydration to work under sustained conditions.
Once the infrastructure is in place and the solar plant is operational, this would no longer be necessary, as workers could be flown in via helicopter or plane in regulated shifts like an oil rig (or you could construct a bullet train with all the power the plant produces), but the building of the infrastructure alone would be an incredible feat of human engineering, innovation, and endurance that would last many years and billions of dollars to accomplish.
That being said... if we ever hope to one day build something like a Dyson Sphere or a massive Solar Sail.. the Sahara's hot zone would be an excellent place to test and innovate the technology.
I like this
Who will provide the Silicons. 🤔🤔
Build it at night?
@@ThePretender94 GENUIS
@@ThePretender94 GENIUS
Some of you guys have smooth brains, did any of you ever consider that we could get raid shadow legends to sponsor the project and already have all the needed money
@@EpicCaliChef I was thinking the same thing 😂😂😂😂😂
good point
Underrated Lmao.
What is not realized is that solar Farms are super HOT... I worked at a small area with maybe 500 panels and it was 20-30° Hotter. It could be 100° Outside but that specific solar panel area was 130ish. If it can get that much hotter i couldn't imagine how much hotter the Sahara would get.
you could bake anything just by leaving it in the air
8 Minutes in. They reference it.
You’ll need lots of silver. The project would require more than the entire mined supply for years. This would push the price up and also the cost. I suppose someone calculated this.
I would be interested in these calculations (and the other raw material calculations as well).
@@sorenwintherlundbys me too! Just so you know, the amount of silver mined each year is about 800 million ounces, but it’s been declining since 2015, it was previously about 950. An additional 100-200 million ounces is available due to melt/recycling. Currently solar accounts for about 100 million ounces a year. It’s not growing as fast as new solar because manufacturers are trying to minimize silver usage, it’s known as “thrifting”. Anyway, there’s no surplus, in fact we have been whittling the supply down these last couple years. If a massive amount of solar panels were to be ordered, it would cause a huge price surge. And FYI: Electric vehicles use 2-4x the amount of silver as internal combustion cars, which will also be taxing supply. usage for all vehicles is currently about the same as solar, but it’s about to grow drastically. That’s my contribution. Tell me anything you think I’d like to also know!
Don't forget the glass needed. If sand is needed to make the glass, then they're in for a shock when they realise that there is an ever increasing shortage of appropriate sand for that endeavour. And if you think you could just use desert sand, think again... not as easy.
It’s free. People just sticked prices on things.
@@lavh4406 thats just ignorant everything needs a price or else everything is worthless and if everything is worthless then whats the point of achieving something if u gain nothing from if u work at mcdonalds and the food is free then u dont get paid then whats the point of showing up
"We would produce so much power we would never be able to use"
Chinese Bitcoin miners: Hold my truckload of RTX
Chinese Bitcoin miners do be like "hold my truckload of RTX" now that the Chinese government is clamping down on crypto and the miners are all dumping their GPUs as fast as they can.
@Tanjiro Kamado I hate the miners because I have to play at 60 fps instead of a good graphics card
2nd place? Hmm. I wonder how far I have to scroll to see the " Am I a joke to you?" comment.
@Tanjiro Kamado no buddy, thats scalpers (i dont mean any disrespect to you)
@@HermanvanGelder lol
51.4 trillion? Man, that's a *brilliant* amount of money.
Gotta check under ..like maybe...40-45 couch cushions to find that kinda money
Almost enough money to buy at least 3 Toyota Corollas
@@Dee_Snuts27 or a nice house in California
@@CoreRealm or a decent apartment in NYC
@@Dee_Snuts27 maybe enough to buy an apartment in San Francisco...with 3 roommates.
Imagine if the world was actually working on advancing its needs instead of competing with and fighting itself?
This idea is 1000% unfeasible
@Jon Snow Yeah, this one guy should do that. Sure. Big brain solutions right here.
@@dredgenwar2375 Practice what you preach
@@UltraEgo2000 I will. I'm getting an electric vehicle and solar panels as quick as I can (I am currently 17 with no car, just to be clear).
@@dredgenwar2375 Good luck, electric cars aren't cheap.
Let's remind everyone that a Sahara sized solar array would also become the greatest no fly zone for birds ever.
I doubt many birds fly over the Sahara anyway.. lack of food and water even before the solar panels decimate them
The concept of give and take.
Who can say no to free fried bird? Place some tubs of vegetable oil in the sun and come back a few times every week for a fried delight
@@bloodiedjeffbezos1013
DON'T LET THE KFC CORPORATION INVEST IN THIS.
It would be a no fly zone for humans too. Imagine the reflected heat instantly igniting a plane's fuel tanks.
"We've filled up the Sahara with solar panels. What happens now?"
War. War happens now
Can you image the target that would be for a terrorist or hacker organization?!? Possibly crippling the entire world's energy source?!? Put all the world's eggs in one tempting basket. Can you image the political power the land owners would have? I don't think that power would be relinquished that easily by other countries.
@@arthurpendragon3000 Scatter the panels across the Sahara, hackers already target power grids, benefitting nations must provide for security.
@@pbase36 I just think that nations have a lot of difficulties working together when not under extreme conditions. This project can be done but I am not optimistic it would go smoothly and not have a host of political problems that could possibly tear it apart. I tend to have a pessimistic view of humanity being able to adequately work together.
@@arthurpendragon3000 the biggest terrorist organisation in the world is the United States government. Looks like the Sahara desert needs some "democracy"
Yep. War never changes.
“Let’s just assume that we’ve turned on infinite money”
I feel attacked
:-) While as a gamer, i totally appreciate your comment, as a critical beeing, id have to tell you : Tis would be easily possibly, because, well money cheat is already activated, but Half GOd Mode, is the defaut setting, for the handful of people , that OWN HALF OF OUR SHIT.
@@AdvertisingWorldpeace uhh.. okay?
Hmm…I guess u could say…
*”That’s no moon, that’s a space station…”*
@@acertainkirakuin He makes a good point. The problem isn't that there's not enough money... the problem is that those who have most of that money don't want renewable energy because many of their fortunes are built on fossil fuels. Investing that money into a NM sized solar energy plant would be a huge boon to 99% of the population, but the 1% of people holding the amount of money it would take to do it would be sacrificing their hold on their massively lopsided share of the world's wealth. They'd rather spend that money on lobbyists supporting legislation that forces the continued use of sub-par, inefficient, and dirty services and products they provide and blocking new more efficient and clean products or services from improving lives and moving humanity forward.
That control is their infinite money cheat.
@@davepeesthepool bad reasoning. maybe We use fossil fuels because it's more efficient, reliable,and last longer than renewable energy. You know those solar panels and windmills don't last that long compared to traditional fuels and are not even that much greener when you take into account the production. And do you understand that the 1% is millions of people. do you think They all know each other and agree on everything? And if the 1% is so greedy why wouldn't they pursue renewable Energy if it's better than traditional Fuels to make more money?
I'm supposed to be looking up a "how to" for changing my water heater, but I'm just in my basement watching this 😆
Haha. Welcome to TH-cam! I am supposed to be working on a project... 😆
So... Did you eventually learn what you needed?
The new water heaters all hooked up! 💪 Now I've been putting off fixing the water damage I caused while switching it out 😂
"Assume that we turned on infinite money"
*Let's Game It Out has awoken!*
But is there a limit?
ah, i see. now let's play a game i call: HOW MANY LGIO FANS CAN I FIND ON THE INTERNET?
@@AirMadeKat me
Hey there, is Josh.
Only if we're Earthling, one planet working towards the same goal.
This video took me on a ride
"oh that seems like a bad idea"
"hey no this is a GREAT idea"
"wait no bad bad bad"
"hang on.. but it would be so great"
"ok definitely no bad idea"
Like most things in science, its complicated
Anything you do on continental scale will change environment. And any change to environment will kill a lot of species (because they are adapted to the current environment).
and then some terrorist group blows up the main delivery lines.
It is feasible to do the new Mexico model and be 100 percent renewable
@@YashTrivedispaceport6492 not really, for a lot of reasons it's much better to spread them around the globe than to put them in one place. First of all - power lines have loses, the larger the distance between panels and the consumer - the more energy is lost to heat. Second issue - we don't have battery technology good enough to run whole world through the night from energy stored in the day. So we need to spread the cells in such way that always half of them are where sun is. Third issue is heat - solar panels increase heat where they are (because they reflect less sun), and they work less efficient if there is too much heat where they are. So it's not good to put too much of them in one place cause they interfere with each other.
Ideally we should put solar panels in a line around the equator and move energy vertically from that line to each country :) Even better if we could move that ring into orbit and beam the energy directly to consumers :)
2:33 Morocco isn't going to sell surplus energy to Europe. It's the opposite, Europe built this energy station in Morocco and it will sell some surpluses to Morocco for a hefty price.
No europe invested in the project. As did golf countries. The tech was provided by EU, mainly spain for btp and germany for the panel tech and electricity tech. The tech itself was experimental thats why Morocco used 3 different models (CSP, CSP tower, PV). The energy is being used in Morocco although the CSP tech didnt prove to be cost effective enough and thus the excess energy cost is being sibsidised by the state (through MASEN).
@@Venus-ky7gz if you invest in a company you own a portion of it.
Awesome!
This is wrong
Nope.
All the people who are pouring in the problem statements are actually contributing in making this project a success. Great job guys post more negatives which can take place in this project so a better and robust Risk management plan can be created to make it a success.👍👍🎉
It could never be made a success, there are massive issues with it that they never addressed.
Suuuuuuure, we live in a world where hating something equates with that something being successful. Suuuuuure.
Chad with no roads in the northern half of the country:
*I'm just built different*
Chads kind of a Chad ngl
maybe cuz their nothing in north to go to why build road to go no where lol
Chad is so Chad that no roads lead to Chad
⚾ SERCH ADITYA RATHORE, HE ALSO MAKES INFORMATIVE CONTENT LIKE REAL LIFE LORE⚾
@@tyronwsison Every one else in the world is a virgin, Chad is protecting its population of Chads from the power-hungry virgins
Cover the sun in solar panels. Imagine how much energy we’ll get!
Not on the night side of the sun though!
Hey yea! And run a cable to earth
👍👍
look up for dyson sphere :)
Dyson sphere :>
Hmm, Probably about as much as we get now. Oh, no, less because the panels are not 100% efficient. Also the light would be dimmer.
“Turn on Infinite Money”
German Hyperinflation: Hold my Lederhosen.
lol
Hey it worked for Greece ..... shit .... wait a min
Hold my Reichsmark
Hold my DAS BOOT!!
Hold my beer
You forgot about power transmission losses. A 360kV power line will lose about 15% of power per 1,000km. So to send electricity from Sahara to the US, Japan, or Australia you'd lose 85% of the power. With such huge distances you'd also need many transformers on the way, which waste even more power. So you'd be lucky if the US would receive 5% of the initially generated power. These losses are another problem for putting solar panels on deserts. Because they're usually far away from big cities which require the most electricity.
The US has nevada, idaho, arizona and new mexico, and the same could easily be accomplished. I dont mean "we need all of these states to be PV arrays" - We need something like 62 sq miles to power the contiguous US. thats like the size of cincinnati
So which countries could be users then?
Wanted: Professional swiffer operator. Must like working outdoors.
Bring your own sunscreen.
imagine being a soldier/security guard having to guard the cables from terrorists. Doesn't sound like a fun life
its a boring life but some people don't mind it.
Ai sentry bots?
@@freechurros even if possible, too expensive
@@freechurros "Sentry going up"
And this is I prefer local nuclear plants vs solar arrays that are 5000 km away
The Sahara desert is like a slow motion undulating sea in continuous motion.the logistics of keeping the panels above the sand and clean would be staggering.
And how long does a solar panel last in a sand blaster.
And don't forget the amount of security you would need, in that part of the world. The area around the Sahara has been in almost permanent conflict for decades. Everybody and their mum, would be attacking these solarpanels all the time. So you would never get any stable power supply from that system.
Its mostly a rock desert. Didnt you see the pictures?
@@hieatus1039 don’t you have google earth....he said the entire Sahara desert. And the whole region is subject to sand storms rock or not.
@Uzi Khan So you don't think all the war lords and other criminals down there, who wants to keep people in poverty, would try to destroy something that would bring prosperity to the people? What about "Al Shabaab" "Al Qaeda", "Boko Haram"? None of them allow modern technology. They want people to live in the stone age. They would attack before the system was even build. Security is an issue in Africa.
And no!, I'm not against a project like this. I think it would be super cool if it could be made. But we need to be realistic. People don't run away from Africa for no reason.
@@RandomUser6947 give thoses people free energy and many konflicts will just disappear
because one problem is land to life in and with free energie the can settle in regions that are have to life in because of heat
just take away one problem in people live like money for energy and give them a oportuntiy to do something else
if you have free power you could plan mass projekt other then just solar plants in sahara like deep mining for gold platin titan
the nation with free unlimited power it the nation that can deal this small problems like terror organisations or war lords
just buy another nations protecton like the continet of EU or america
free unlimited power is like a holy grail and nations will so every thing to protect it for even mass genocide on heligion terrorists
western nation have crushed other nations and organisation for lesser things than that...
But wouldn't all the dust on the panels block them from accepting as much energy? Cos the wind storms there would have them covered the same day theyre installed
They would probably clean it when they get blocked just like u have to do to a regular one
To clean the sand off, each solar panel would need to be attached to a robot arm. The robot arm would need to flip the solar panels upside down regularly to shake the sand off. You would definitely need some robots to clean those panels. No human is going to work there.
Helicopter blades would do the trick quick....wait bad idea. That would just coat the other panels, unless it was organized like lawn care workers with leaf blowers. I've seen helicopter pilots do cool stuff. So maybe?
@kiraxxxxxxxxx electric cars use some non renewable resources
Ever heard of windschield wipers? I've heard they work.
Indians would work there lol.
I live in a yellow area and I seriously don't find temps like 50C that bad xD
Who’s cleaning them? You’ll need several small armies cleaning it daily.
robots powered by the energy produced by the panels
Give them window wipers
Before the project starts, employ people to vacuum the sand. Bam! Problem fixed.
@Apistotle Stonker lol… just keep in mind, anything that becomes somewhat valuable will end up having “several armies killing each other for”
Well I guess that’ll fix their unemployment issues
I have a better one, what if we painted everything above the Arctic circle all white?
It's a good one.
What colour are you going for the bottom half ? 🤔
Epic
To reduce ice melting because white reflects light?
wow. thanks mr president
Wait until sandstorms hear about your idea 🤣
One dust storm and you'd be out there cleaning billions of panels. It would be an up keep nightmare
Self cleaning raised panels
just install windshield wipers
@@Merchaant we are talking about a huge dust storm that can swallow a whole city man
@@barryfugotomo Just install windshield wipers
FLEX SEAL
Humans : cover all Sahara desert in solar panels
Sun : dies
Sun: It would be a real dick move to die right now...
American be like
What
@@65firered hmmrphhh *dies*
if the sun died we would die as well so it wouldnt really matter
"Lets assume we turned on infinite money"
*Cities Skylines has entered the chat*
Mr Beast also entered the chat
Lets Game It Out has entered the chat
Wendover Productions covered this topic and brought up the good point that there are very few routes to get the electricity from the Sahara to Europe and Asia. Upgrading the existing infrastructure would be quite expensive as well.
The maintenance job for panels scattered across Sahara is gonna be tough xD
imagine your boss saying: "panel no. 47 981 402 801 is throwing a fault code, go check it out
unemployment rates at an all time low. rates of death due to overheating astronomically high
ye but then almost nobody could get a job
@@slipknotfan2217 panel at x and y 10008, 10679
Especially the dust on the panels
"Let's just assume that we turned on infinite money"
*Sweet Home Venezuela*
XD
*sweet home Lebanon*
Eeeeeee
LMAO
tiny brain moments
"UNLIMITED POWER!!!"
Emperor Palpatine.
The Dark side of the force is a pathway to many abilities that some consider unnatural..
Ultimate power!
What if we covered the Sahara Desert with Darth Vaders?
Until the panels find the dark side
Solar Panels: "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
Didn't expect you would end this educational clip with a commercial. Unbeautifully post.
There would also be the challenge of replacing them every 20 years or so.
Assuming they spent 20 years placing all of the solar panels they could in theory just replace them in the path that they first placed them not counting ones that need maintenance just randomly
The true reason why this isn't a thing is very simple: It costs money and africa doesn't have it. Why would western powers want africa to get rich anyway?
Bruh, they will be covered in sand within a few hours, solar panels need to be cleaned and that alone would cost a couple 100 billion more dollars
@@randomorange6807 but hey, more jobs
@@KiLLJoYTH-cam the western dont wnt any other country to get rich
“Immediately”
This would be so awesome but “immediately switch” is short sided.
Working in construction, I know that the instillation of anything in the middle of nowhere is a challenge. This would take decades unfortunately.
Immediately in a relative sense.
About ten years for the awesome Chinese, they would probably plant trees all over the place
@@ndrsg3013 the chinese are busy working on their nuclear fusion reactor so it's ready to run in 2035 ish, I doubt they would even waste a second on solar energy.
That's why they should start from the edges and work their way in.
hghhg
There's people that live in the Sahara, who've never seen a cloud. That's wild.
Most people that "live in the Sahara", die
@@PunchmadeQuakez as with all people all around the world. What's your point?
@@PunchmadeQuakez almost all living people born on this earth die on it(same vibe)
@@defenseoftheaxies4553 the Sahara desert is more likely to kill you than other places is his point
@@PunchmadeQuakez they also were most likely born at some point
"Let's assume the panels are 100% efficient"- Thermodynamics got shot on the face.
Sand grains: I am gonna end this man's whole career
Just slap some windshield wipers on them
I hate sand. It's coarse, rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
@@gregthorne4292, is that you, Anakin?
dead fucking meme
@@polipix_ not as dead as all those younglings Anakin killed
I think this is an awesome concept to explore, although I feel that two things should've been looked at: the shear amount of silicon, copper, and other resources used in building such an array, and how they would withstand the heat. It's no secret that the Sahara is incredibly hot, so that begs the question: would that destroy the panels or any of their components? If the sand, with yellow-ish colored surfaces on their grains, could reach 80 Celcius, then what would a black (or blue) surface reach in the same intensity of sunlight, and would it surpass safe levels of heat absorption in the electronic components?
Locals will do it faster than temperatures.
Also only talking about solar panels and not solar collectors despite showing them throughout the video is kind of lackluster.
Solar panels get less efficient the hotter they are, so the desert is a terrible place to put them
The simple answer: They are not gonna use silicon based solar panels at all. In the desert, a much easier solution for getting energy from the sun is just a bunch of mirrors focusing on a tower with something that can get heated, turn to a gas and power a turbine. In fact, this is what we see in the beginning when the Quarzazate plant is shown.
I wonder if the heat/cooling of the day/night cycle could provide even more energy than direct solar? Somehow? Science whizzes??
I think that’s the Solar Updraft Tower power plant.
Idk , I'm not a Scientist
Maybe we can also get energy from natural disaster? That's just a theory. A science theory!
Yes, by directing that energy via mirrors.
They doing it the middle east to help desalinate the water.
Well the equivalent energy of a square meter of sunlight is approximately 1000W whereas the best solar panels nowadays could only produce about 300w per square meter. If you could store that energy AND convert it to a convenient 230V 50Hz AC without any losses... then Bob's your uncle ;)
It is not the solar panels that are expensive, but the means for energy storage. Currently, it is not possible to efficiently store solar energy on a large scale.
Interesting synopsis, but you’re leaving out two of the most important aspects:
1. What’s the environmental cost to produce all of those solar panels, and how long will they last?
2. How would you keep the PV surface clean so they actually produce the max output they’re capable of?
@The Big and how much bigger would the array have to be to power a fan on every panel, and what would be the material cost and damage to the environment to produce all of these fans?
@The Big oh really? So, those solar panels will last forever, huh? And the fans too? Solar panels don’t even have a lifespan long enough to pay back their initial cost, let alone offset all of the carbon emissions/pollution from the required fossil fuels to mine, refine, manufacture, transport, install, run, and dispose of them at the end of their lifespan.
compressed air blowing on the panels, mark rober has done it on his solar panels
@The Big That's not how energy generation works buddy, you can't have a machine powering the very thing that makes it function, and then tap into that. If that were the case then we would've solved the energy crisis by now. Not to mention heat dissipation and wear, along with the sand producing micro-scratches along the solar array. There are many issues that need to be dealt with before creating a solar farm in the Sahara.
number 2 isnt a problem, with enough energy anything is possible
One problem: Sand.
There are literally entire pyramids buried in the sand yet to be rediscovered.
How do you know lol
You'd have to sandproof the panels, and elevate them quite a ways above the sand
Sahara is mostly a rock desert, sand isn't such a big deal
Eeeeeeeee
@@hokorikera do you know how quickly the sands shift. You could fall asleep one night in an open flat area of the desert but wake up to a huge sand dune in front of you
Moroccan here. Feels good to see something positive about my country 😍😎😎🇲🇦🇲🇦
Me too! It's also sad that it's 2021 and Europe is still not done stealing from Africa. Now they also want our sunlight 🙃
Morocco is great.
@@heyitsfadoua where just borrowing the sunlight, sun light causes heat and if we take enough sunlight it would end global warming.
@@kgsniper4850 I don't think it works like that but yeah there is enough sunshine for everyone
@@heyitsfadouaI was joking a little, have a good day and goodnight.
Better than a “what if” Star Wars Fan fic.
"Unlimited power!!"
- Palpatine, Star Wars
"Power, overwhelming!!"
- Archon, Starcraft
In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, you get the women.
-Tony Montana
This is exactly what happened in the stort "Project Hail Mary" by Andy Weir and they got one of the most efficient and craziest amounts of energy but with a cost.
Yeah but if they didnt, half the people on earth would be dead in 17 years. They had no choice. Fuxk the environment.
@@unropednope4644 well we won't live any longer if u fuck up the environment
@@trippin5619 exactly
Fist my bump and watch me sleep
@@alexchen5445 ill fist your bump if i can watch you eat. 10/10 best books ive ever read. Andy Wier is a master.
"For reference, thats nearly four times the amount of annual sunlight that germany gets!"
*Cries in Iceland*
They have sun through half of the year. What is the problem?
@@lookash3048 no they don’t it’s always overcast
Haha, cries in Newfoundland!
*Cries in ALL Scandinavian countries*
Iceland is powered by volcanic energy, Scandinavia by hydro and wind energy.
Nice video my friend 😮
"Let's just assume we turned on infinite money"
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Very clever!!
Eeeeeeeeee
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Nuclear Power Plants: "Look at what they need to mimic a *fraction* of our power!"
Also Nuclear Power Plants: "And look at how much less forever toxic, radioactive waste they produce."
Huge tragedy everyone is so cautious on nuclear power....
Chernobyl? Experimental and flawed reactor design that would never come close to being approved anywhere else outside the Soviet Union (ok maybe NK..)
Fukushima? Ok...who the hell puts a nuclear reactor in a tsunami/earthquake prone area?
3 Mile Island? it has pretty much been proven no lasting consequences have come from it...plus, we've had 50 years to advance technology
Yes a nuclear, hydrogen and renewable energy needs to be the future
Nuclear Fusion: Amateurs...
@@chrishuhn5065 cringe.
We need Mr Beast here . " I covered the entire Sahara Desert with solar panels " Bam! Yeah, just like that .
And it cost me a 100000 dollars 😂😂
Mrbeast net worth is about 30 mil , such project will need trillions of dollars (1 trillion = 1000 billion , 1 billion = 1000 million) , you guys are overestimating mrbeast , i love him but not even close
@@jomo3480 no... we are not overestimating him... you are taking jokes to serious.
@@gr4vityjuli4n Ehh? Where's the joke? I was already looking for the video.
@@leosegovia362 lol
The issue is that power doesn't store well. It's also difficult to transport over distances, there's too much energy loss. That is why we don't have panels all over the deserts in California to power the rest of the US. The energy depletes over distances.
There is an example of high voltage line in Kazakhstan, it is around 400km and it transfers 1150 kV
New Mexico: "What the hell? How did we get dragged into this?"
we are going to build a great solar panel and new mexico will pay for it
I live in New Mexico and find the humor in all of this. :)
I guess the same way that footage of Mars was dragged into this.
We have a bunch of land here in New Mexico we don't use because it's pretty inhospitable. Also, we have a bunch of land belonging to Native Americans.
@@soulknife20 pls don’t do what I think your gonna do
"Dude, you could put them in a pattern, so it made a giant dong."
The government of Chad.
When someone has looked at Google maps to find funny Stuff from there.
For anyone who doesnt get what he means:Chad is a Real country in Africa, between Sudan and Niger.
Why the word butt? Just make the pattern a giant penis.
@@VideoManDan Ah yes, classic.
What Daniel said
@@VideoManDan or write 69. That'll be nice
We'd have a whole damn lot of solar panels.
And a lot of energy, but it doesn't seem like it's worth all the trouble
@@GlowBerryPumpkin Yeah, it would be bad for the enviorement, having to make and replace that many panels
We don't have the resources to make them all, let alone the tech to do it across the desert.
@@gamerito100
Still better than burning so many fossil fuels, plus you can recycle the broken solar panels, but you can’t recycle burnt fuel
@@STORMFIRE07 ....considering how many fossil fuels go into 1 panel, and the replacement of panels on that scale... yeah, no, its isnt that viable. Especially compared to other, far cleaner green energy methods that can produce far more energy with far less material requirements and overall less CO2 footprint..
"Erik,we have enough banana farms already,stop placing banana facilities please,im trying to get a paragon."
Let’s save this idea until our sun is infected with Astrophage
What's that?
@PC JUNK exactly what I thought
@@Dylan-bc2po It's a reference to the book "Project Hail Mary"
PHM?
What if it already is? :o
As soon as I heard 'turning on infinite money' I immediately thought of Cities: Skylines!
Biffa
Sims: motherlode lol
Blocking the sun and the beautiful views ..$$$$ all for a $...
The question should be what happens after panels have finished their life cycle, how will the waste be recycled if possible
I clicked on it thinking it was a grey still plays vid lol
just dump it to outer space
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@@cantemiz8732 aynen knk
@@cantemiz8732 stupid, can't eject earth's matter into space we will be depleted of MATTER.
This concept of planet wide energy self sufficiency is also known as the Kardashev scale. I believe humanity is still a Type 0 civ. If we were to ever get all of our energy needs from the sun, we'd finally advance to a Type 1 civ. There are 5 additional advancements after that including the harnessing of energy from the solar system and progressively larger energy sources like pulsars and black holes.
The real question: how many Toyota Corolla Factories could be powered with an entire Sahara solar array?
Like 4
@Xavier Ross élève eh, I would say like 6 but I will agree with you
2, cause everyone else is on break charging their phones at the plant
@@Dipp182 😂
Less than 1/2 of a Nuclear Powerplant.
Imagine working together as humanity lol
thats all anyone can do because we wont ever see it happen lol
I wish...
“Imagine having high intelligence”
Some random animal relying on instinct
Don’t hold your breath
Working together? Lol no obviously not
“It would create an epic climate catastrophe the likes of which we have never seen before.”
But think of all the bitcoin mining we could do.
The natural climate cycles of the Earth create massive heating and cooling events over the ten thousand and hundred thousand year time scales. These occur inevitably and over enough time that humans adapt.
Unnamed future generations will inhabit a frozen Italy and a balmy Antarctica.
God Bless them.
Next.
@@lawrenceralph7481 tool bag
Bitcoin mining is horrible for the environment too
@@idk-ql3xs why is a kJ used to solve pointless algorithms more damaging for the environment than any other use?
@@sreilly1000.....why..... Just why
title should be what happens if we make sahara desert a forest
"First step, let's just make up numbers."
Wow, genius
Explain
@@pietsnotty8283 They always do it. Think of the hyperloop, california's HSR, solar roads, prepping to go to mars and etc. It's standard procedure in what if videos. Who knows what the local regions' politics and money for infrastructure will allow, including hte politics in places like Europe. There are certain super powers that want to keep on making money with what they export. Still excited in things like this and MSR plants.
@@pietsnotty8283 When he was doing the cost he used the price of a commercial panel to your house, added a bunch of made up numbers and came up with the cost of 1k per panel. Even this ignored cleaning, maintenance and replacement cost as I doubt the panels would last more than a few years in such harsh conditions. Or the fact most solar farms use panels far more expensive and efficient than the stuff you can get commercially for your home.
@@JustaGuy_Gaming Ok, but the idea remains. If people would use solar panels more, for their homes and on bigger scales in multiple places, bye energy problem
@@pietsnotty8283 If you or i can buy one single solar panel for our homes for $200 and they need 50bil panels they aren't going to pay $1000 each to buy and install them. They could build all the infrastructure and a giant solar panel factory in the center of the Sahara for a few 10s of billions.
6:46 "what will happen now"? Let me answer that question for you: at that moment the whole region becomes even more politically unstable as multiple factions will try to get access to this source of income, starting devastating wars, destroying the project in process and end up looking like shocked pikachu when the whole world gets mad at them.
Plus solar panels contain thin lines of silver. Once those factions discover silver, its game over. All of the panels will get destroyed.
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@@ameybirulkar7503 well not by the goverments themselves but by local thieves
@@Dan_Kanerva Yes but these countries have little to no law enforcement. Like Mali for example. It has lowest number of police officers/1000 people. So thieves won't be stopped by the government even if they wanted to.
So basically, setting up small solar farms here and there around big deserts = good idea, provides lots of electricity. Covering the whole desert in solar farms = bad idea, totally changes Earth's weather patterns.
Nice , this is exactly what i thought
Yeah, it turns out that so-called green energy isn't all that green when you take it to scale.
@@femsplainer just because something is not completely green does not mean we don't have to change to the greener and more energy efficient alternative (don't say fusion energy because that won't be developed for the next 10-30 years by some estimates, and fission is used but is thought of as not as "safe" as solar)
@@aceofspades9640 solar is trash energy. Its inefficient and not cost effective
@@aceofspades9640 Who said anything about "completely green"? I'm saying that they're not even green at all when you take them to scale, sometimes even before that (look up the carbon footprint of putting up wind turbines sometime).
Sure once they're up and running they can be green, but that is incredibly myopic to ignore the carbon footprint of getting there. I mean seriously just look at all the fools saying we need to stop using gas vehicles and switch to electric ones, while failing to realize that the electricity they use is generally in the ballpark of 95% COAL power.
The perception of being green is the problem because in most cases they are actually WORSE for the environment on multiple levels including their overall carbon footprint. The people who buy them seem to be totally ignorant of this fact and think they're solving a problem and being virtuous, but they're actually not.
I wasn't going to say fusion, and I'm pretty sure we're much further off than 10-30 years. After all they've been saying that every 10-30 years for almost the last 70 years.
Fission Nuclear power does have a perception of being less safe than solar, but in reality they're actually safer. It's basically the same problem that air travel has. Flying is an incredibly safe way to travel, far more so than by automobile, and yet there are tons of people that fear flying because when things go wrong they go very wrong, but the overall statistics do not lie.
Magnificent video. Well done! ♡
Yep, I can see Mr.Beast doing this.
"I covered an ENTIRE DESERT with SOLAR PANELS!"
He's too broke for that😂 he would have to sell everything still he wouldn't be able to cover even 1-2 percent
Maybe Elon Musk
maybe the "mistake" desert in Poland lol
@@adarshdalvi9772 he is joking dude
@@adarshdalvi9772 1. You dum his money increase is near
People: You can't get resources to the Sahara, it's remote and hardly any road
People building infrastructure in Siberia and Arctic for decades: And I took that personally!
Siberia and artic are a bit different than deserts. It's easier to build on hard frozen surfaces rather then sandy surfaces that don't stay in one place when you build on it.
I keep seeing you everywhere are you the new just some guy without a mustache
Considering the amount of dead bones in those Siberian roads, maybe it's not the greatest example, bud.
I really appreciate how he basically answered the question in the first few seconds of the video for people looking for a quick answer, and had the rest of the video for people who are more curious. Well thought out
If they wanted to do this, some of the countries in the region wouldn’t maintain it properly and terror groups would probably destroy large parts of it within a few years.
"Let's assume the solar panels are 100% efficient", yeah no.
“Let’s assume this nuclear power plant that isn’t using thorium rocks won’t produce radioactive waste”
Let's assume they not burn because of the heat they produce
@@buklau837 nuclear energy is way better than solar energy
@@alejandromunoz8011 yeah ikr, plus waste from solar panels are way more dangerous
It’s entirely reasonable for sheer speculation.
And it also would lead to the creation of a new sitcom “It’s Always Sunny in the Sahara.”
Hahahaha not bad.
Let's talk about the sand. Can we talk about the sand for a second? I've been dying to talk about the sand with you all day.
His idea is just crap... And this is why:
The gigantic surface of the panels would cause a massive refraction of the rays directly towards the Sun by mirror effect, which would risk causing a substantial but not insignificant increase in its temperature during the time of exposure of the panels to the rays. This could have the effect of increasing by causal effect the terrestrial temperature due to the increase in the intensity of the radiation induced by this new storage of redirected rays potentially responsible for the increase in solar temperature. This could have very deleterious impacts on the ozone layer and could also accelerate global warming ...
It's Never Funny in Ethiopia
So long as you, and the other morons, pay for it, go for your life!
Great video and small suggestion: when you talking about numbers - show them) thats help with information.
Except for the part where they put zero effort into using real numbers and admitted they were pulling those out their backsides.
Pretty sure this channel has over 4 million subs, I don’t think your suggestion is going to change much.
@@jvii9761 in a world of over 7 billion it is not hard to find 4 million idiots who blindly follow garbage.
If not for the 2022 Great Depression, the Third Relief would’ve been the longest emanatory superpower in history.
One of my professor posted a similar question in test where we had to calculate the area of panels needed to power the entire USA. The references I used showed me that the best solar panels in market produce electricity at about 20% efficiency, which is 10 times better than what nature has achieved by photosynthesis, but nowhere close to your assumption of 100% that you made in this video.
100% is nonescence regardless because of thermodynamics.
The maximum for solar energy is about 33%, while we are already at 26%. So whoever was responsible for calculating this video did a terrible job, considering there was any
I think people are misunderstanding what they mean by 100%, they mean 100% regarding their output, assuming they are cleaned frequently, etc...
I think his words are true, but you did not understand the idea, that the efficiency of 20% is the amount of benefit from photosynthesis in kilowatts per square meter. The company calculated it and gave you the figure of 350 watts, and now they have reached 650 watts and more in some countries.
What I want to say, if the benefit was 100%, I would have taken a kilowatt and more per square meter of land
@@Stettafire There is a cool article called "solar cell efficiency" on wikipedia that nicely sumarizes the problem!
That is neat. To bad the sand storms from the wind would ruin the panels, costing trillions in repairs, which is also why the edges of the Sahara is better as well.
Exactly what I was thinking, it's an interesting idea, but there's no way this could really work mostly in the desert
@@altemoosania9219 its a dumb idea
What if it was in a glass dome , protecting it but getting heat of the sunlight
@@AbdallaAmeri that would cost even more money
@@altemoosania9219 but better long term
Good news: We've solved the energy crisis.
Bad news: We fucked up the climate.
It's like those overpowered alien civilizations:
*Hey, if we press this button, we will achieve the peak of knowledgement!*
*b o o m*
sounds familiar to me for some reason
*ACCEPTABLE LOSSES*
HOW?
I have little knowledge of meteorology, but where water evaporates is not necessarily where it rains.
I think the general rule is that the wind blows away from a hot area (because hot air generally has high pressure so it goes to lower pressure).
Philip Shenon wrote in NY Times in 1995, "The waves of heat that rise from the mined-out plateau drive away rain clouds" This agrees with what the video said about inviting rain.
But the importance is in the differences in pressures, between Sahara and areas around Sahara. Essentially, Sahara cools down, but at what magnitude, compared with its surroundings?
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About heating up the world, I also think that black solar panels would contribute to this. Idk how this plan (in the video) would affect other nations' economy, but if they wind up buying energy from Sahara, they would probably cut some of their heat-producing power plants. Idk if this is net heat loss (or gain). Whatever the answer is returns us to the question about the differences in pressures.
I’m so happy my country is doing this!! 🇲🇦❤️
"save the earth people" are ignorant. They don't realize that it takes a MASSIVE amount of pollution to manufacture/produce solar panels and solar fans. For every one that's manufactured, it uses the same amount of pollution as a regular sedan uses in 2.4 years. Sssooooo.....to just break even, if the US made this many to cover the entire Sahara, it would take about, 400 plus years to just break even with the pollution amounts. Lmao.
You're moroccan?