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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.ย. 2024
- In the upcoming update 1.26 B-C 25t is finally getting buffed! I tried the new version on the test server and in this video I will share my opinion on the changes.
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5:19 Patch 9.18 was released in April 2017 and somehow everyone seems to forget about it. The "new" MM 3/5/7, T10 Lights, rebalancing of basically EVERY existing light in the game, more HD models, SPG rework, Stun mechanic and reusable consumables... That patch was garbage but the biggest one nonetheless
So it has been 8 years since the MM got changed.
No wonder why it's so fcking outdated now.
There are many times when I play with my T57 HT, loading in Malinovka as a single top-tier HT against tier 8s, and then I saw an S.Conq on the other side.
Oh well, I can't tell everyone to find a bush and hide.
So the S.Conq had the most chilled farm ever on the hill while I was trying to snipe as a top-tier HT.
It's just so fcking ridiculous.
Iyouxin specifically said "the biggest patch in this decade", which is definitely not as far back as 2017
That don't matter. What they are doing as CCs are driving clickbait keywords to drive up views and engagement in order to bring back older players and get people hyped again. You will see those key words on most of all of the videos in your algorithm of suggestions. Buffing the batchat is huge to us older players that have a lot of strong memories associated with what many of us considered as the best tank in WOT for a long time.
Has it already been 7 years 😭
I don't do it on purpose. I think I'm just stupid to make a statement like that with proper research.
Poor organisation 🥺
Hoping WG to buff ammo capacity on some tanks like Manti, T-10, IS-7, IS-4
And removing unnecessary modules like the 2nd gun on Cent 7/1 or the 2nd & 3rd gun on WZ-120
IS-7 doesn't need more ammo it needs more ramming speed.
@@Peacemania Da komrade, with speed governor gone, IS7 needs buff engine power&speed
W take
You will have a fuel consumable for the same 10% of engine power buff
24 MINUTES? i could have watched this kind of gameplay for 8 hours lol
Is this the FIRST EVER buff to BatChat?
Yes it is...
Definitely a huge improvement, though I was kinda hoping for an optional 3 shot gun, or reducing mag size to 4. It's still very inflexible with how fast matches can be.
Nah the whole point of the BC is the potential for huuge clips
I respectfully disagree. Batchat is a batchat because of its huge magazine. Changing it to three or four mag gun would just make it into a slower burst Skoda or a less flexible Progetto.
The Outpost battle that Iyouxin shown is the perfect showcase for Batchat: It is a late game assasin. Conserve HP until mid game while helping vision control, assist teammates as damage multiplier, stay alive and keep moving while looking for oportunities. Once late game, you can use your HP to one-clip assasinate tanks one by one while using speed to control engagement so your trade could be effective. That large mag IS important for this role so it can finish most tanks it can meet in a duel.
Would reducing its mags resulting in a much easier and better tank for general use? Maybe, but it won't be a batchat anymore. Managing clip and utilizing that long reload for positioning has always been the essence of batchat gameplay, and I don't want the buff to change that core identity.
Play a TVP or a 13 105. We want variety, not all tanks to be meta clones. This buff raises the skill ceiling of the tank without changing its essence and is still a very significant improvement.
Map changes always go the same way with WG. I'm sure they all sit around a desk and ask the question "How can we change the map's to screw over TD players" it's the same every map update, changes always in favour of HT players. The sad thing is a lot of players only play TD's to try and have a chance of penning the OP HT's.
Been waiting a long time for this buff. Batchat was my first tier X, but it was just so badly power crept by more accurate auto loaders, with faster intraclip loading that it was hard to justify playing it. Tank looks really good now, although that long reload may be a problem with the current meta of ultra short games. Otherwise, this is what the Batchat should have been all along.
I'm surprised by the WoT community, when WG release an op tank everybody complains about it being op, when they release a normal tank everybody complains about it being too weak lol
I'm an old player, and I'm so happy to see the batchat being relevant again, I was sad to see its decline and the fact that it disappeared from competition compared to new tanks
Nice video, I don't play world of tanks myself but love watching your gameplay.
As a light tank gamer you can do insane amounts of combined damage, I think the buffs will make BC one of the hardest 3rd mark tanks in the game
2:36 “WHY NOT??? 🤷🏼♂️ I am dying LMAO
Glad to see the bat-chat come back to being one of the most played tanks in the game at its tier
Man... watching your performance make me wanna install the game again and try out this beautiful tank 😀 Cheers iyouxin! Thanks for the entertainment!
Go for it!
I didn't put full bond gear on mine as I don't play it as much, but looking forward to the exp turbo, bounty IAM and Vents (vents may change) to see how it goes. The increase in ammo alone makes the tank more playable, giving it some gun handling will only make it more seemless. It will be another shitbarn session as so many baddies will be getting back into their BC's...
So now the Bat Chat has 15 shells more than the FV 215b heavy (aka the aircraft carrier), which is 4 times as big? Nice.
The Batignolles-Châtillon Char 25T, also known as the Bat-Chat, is a French medium tank that is 5.67 meters long, 3.16 meters wide, and 2.37 meters high.
FV215b aka Heavy Tank measured 25 feet (7.62 meters) long - not including the gun, 13.1 feet (3.99 meters) wide and 11 feet (3.35 meters) tall. It weighed 65 long tons* (66 tonnes)
You were quite close, ~43m3 vs 103m3 is almost 2.5 times "bigger".
@@Lone_Wolf_91 You, I like you :D
Regarding the gun handling, if will go live like this, it remembers me about buffs and nerfs of AMX M4 54 😅 Have a feeling that will buff and nerf 3 times in a year... i mean the buff right now, with these stats, it will be powerful.
HUGE BUFF! That is exciting. You know the first T10 I wanted 10 years ago was the Batchat? It was indeed my first. I didn't play it though because I wasn't aware enough to make it work I didn't feel like. So i just never bought it. I bought 140 first maybe? I did eventually play it at some point but handling was so bad! I ran GLD and vents and Vstab it was that bad, but so was I. lol I know, people were always pretty brutal about my bad choices if they saw.
I still achieved 57% in 81 games. Sold it though. Looks like I will be needing to buy it back, hope they keep these stats.
Great replays and commentary!
Thank you, Chris
Batchat needed some love. This is going to make it competitive again.
man i am so hyped i started the grind like a month ago without knowing it would be buffed and now that im at tier 9 they announce buffs :)
my first medium tier 10, love it so dearly. finally wot made some good decisions in a decade ;).
The Bat is back baby!!!!!!! one of the most enjoyable tanks to play.
I already love the BC, this is gonna be awesome!
awesome news, i have over 3k battles in bc, and 50 ammo is huge
As a french I'm very excited about this new BC 25t. It looks amazing. Thank you iyouxin 😍
great video info, got my Bat chat 25t last night but I'm using the 100mm gun. will wait for patch to get free Main gun
I love the gun, it definitely helps not having to put so much gun handling equip bcuz i think i did have vents and improved aiming, then turbo. The ammunition size def needed a boost bcuz there were games where i would support heavies, but then quickly run out bcuz im clipping heavies and they can eat a lot more😢. I tried to play the bc as a situational brawler, much like how u would play some more armored meds.
50 shells, this is what i was waiting for. Gun handling - doesnt matter at all. If you should hit you will hit, if you should miss you will have plenty of battles like this when rng will say no.
They might have buffed the bat-chat too much maybe? I can easily imagine this tank becoming the meta medium.
With the already good camo values and mobility, I'm afraid of other autoloader meds becoming uncompetitive.
I missed the Livestream. Nice to see this video. Thx dude
Changelog 1.26: Average games now reduced to 2 min instead of 3 min
what a win on that second game bro, beautiful composure even tho ur team sold you
I just grind the bc looking forward to buff
Thanks !! looking forward to the K91 video.. Watching Dez try it out it looks like it could take the wings off a fly at 300m :)
@@kizzzit5724 its actually pretty derpy
I'm super excited about the buff to the Bc 25 T it will be worth playing now. Also the K91 and it's fully traversable turret and all the other buffs coming to other tanks. Great changes.
Amount of luck you got on Outpost map is just incredible. So many shots could have obliterated you... GJ, Iyouxin, I love every minute of your high-level commentaries!
shot on fv without stabs holy heck...batchat famous for just shell shanking sideways with snap
nice, I have BC25t and never got it to work. Looking forward to play the changes!
As I can see it the problem was never the gun handeling. It was rather the reload time especially now when fast games are common. Sure the increase in ammunition is nice but I think the main problem is still the reload time.
BC got huge buff, crazy WG. but for me who playing tier8 most of time, i find there is one tank get troll "balance": AP amx30, crazy gun handling, good DPM, troll armor, crazy fast, everything u need on one tank. Whatever WG is taking in, get me some
I think the extra ammo and reduced aim time would be enough to get it back into the meta.
The current buffs would be a bit redundant!
(By the way, I got my 3rd BC-25 marker a few months ago, that journey was really emotional!)
Yeah this seems kinda strong, gun handling on the test server is quite close to the tvp at least with regards to how it's able to fully aim between shots even at long range with full spotting build. Kind of similar to the TVP in a way, which is scary
I cant wait to play it, it has so much dust on it i my garage Im gonna need shovel to get it out
Bat Chat 😍
The return of a king? Sounds too good to be true - and looks like i have to brush of the Dust of my bat chat! 😊
I have the BC 25 and don't play it much because of low ammo and bad gun handling.
I had this tank for a while, its gun handling was so bad so it kinda had to be used as a close range assassin style tank which I've never liked. It can't snipe or brawl. So I sold it.😂 guess I'll be buying it back
finally b-c got some love
sadly it was needed - years ago b-c was kind of balancing standard - how outdated it got equals to how much this game deviated from balance
P.S. CVS is braking this game
@@nick4uBB I agree cvs is bad for the game especially tier 7 light tanks getting destroyed by tier 8 mediums w cvs
Imagine if they put reload betven shells on 2.50 or 2.00
wish they lowered the interclip reload
i was hoping that the bc25 gets a bit more gun depression, but that buffs are also ok. And I hope they are not to much like on the amx M4...
I left WoT at the start of this year i’m probably gonna come back for 1.26 and grind the bat chat.
This is too much. The way to do it is :
- Increasing ammo to only 40
- Limiting the gun traverse dispersion improvement to 18 % instead of 38 % (who the fuck thought it was a good idea to give 2 Vstabs for free to a fucking autoloader ???)
- Not touching dispersion at 100m (YES, keep it 0.38 !) and keeping dispersion after firing AS IT WAS as well.
You were dreaming about a fucking Char Futur 4 with 5 shells and true burst potential at 400m ? WG is thinking about doing it right there...
I hope that BC buff does not hit the live server as it is on the test server, or we are gonna have some M4 54 syndrom going on, and WG will nerf it after a few months anyway.
Same for K91 : a fully traversable turret is the only improvement it needs. Buffing its dpm while it already is the best dpm med in the game is just plain stupid.
My 2 cents.
Respectfully disagree in some parts:
50 shell capacity is a good change. Running out of ammunition as a balancing factor shouldn't be a thing.
Gun handling buffs might be a little extreme, yes. On the other hand I'm not sure how well the old sit-and-aim playstyle of the batchat can really still work.
I don't think this will be anything like am 54. That thing got op because it was easy to play: the laser gun was backed up by enough armour to make mistakes. No matter how much you buff gun handling, most batchat players will still die after their first clip
Balancing tanks through low ammo count is dumb.
@@mihaivo_ That is your opinion (not supported by any argument), mine is different on the matter. BC 25t is an opportunistic assassin that should be pushed to get in close range (hence the derpy gun) and calculate the risk involved in going in for a full clip, not a fucking Char Futur 4 that could blindly and accurately dump 3 to 4 clips per battle from 400m, with a true burst potential.
Why do you think they balanced out the Char Futur 4 with 32 rounds (that is only 2 more rounds compared to a BC 25t, and nobody is complaining about it, thanks to the gun accuracy and the playstyle), with only 4 rounds per clip and 4 seconds intra-clip reload ? This what they are going to negate with 1.26 if this BC 25t buff hits the live server as it is, and trust me : you will feel how much better a 30 rounds BC was for tier X balance. Anyway...
@@errtik418 I don’t need any argument to tell you that balancing through ammo is dumb. Some tanks need the extra ammo. Char Futur rarely runs out of ammo due to long clip reload time and flash games which are getting shorter by the day.
@@mihaivo_ WTF ?! The clip reload time on both tanks is EXACTLY the same at 39.16 secs base, even though the shell count - therefore the dpm - is in favor of the BC. Either you're trolling (which would explain the "dont need any argument"' argument), or you're speaking out of your arse (which would explain the "dont need any argument"' argument just as much). Have a great day ahead !
Man the title should be Batchat Buff CHANGES EVERYTHING lol
I actually like it lol 😂
Well looks like he changed it 😂😂
It’s like having an old flame come back into your life…
wg did a nice job with bc 25t. not op but really strong in certain situations, especially in the hands of a great player. does anybody know if this is the same batchat as in the russian version of WoT?
Very well done as usual. Glad your videos hit TH-cam regularly. Cheers from NA server.
Much appreciated!
Bc 25t is more like Char 4 in tier 9 now :D
Very nice video, im already grinding for Bc. Do you know when the Update is going come in the game?
I believe this bc update will go live with the new season update however I might be wrong.
@@7slotsorfeet ok would be logical
@@7slotsorfeet thx
@@tobelix13 Hey what tank are you grinding on the bc line
So the buff comes after i stopped playing for years, and the bc was one of my first 3 t10’s along with type5 n the E4 merican TD. Maybe i get back now??
Why not! Game is insane
12:23 it's a test server bratan :))))
more ammo is great...think I'd rather faster interclip than gun handling.
Meanwhile me getting matchmaking with X tiers while playing centurion 1 with stock 75mm gun :)
I can't no wait play it on regular server 👏👏👏
Me too bro
my beloved baby gets a buff❤ this is the tank wich trained me to play well i have 2000 random battles in it i was like 1k wn8 when i got the bc25t and now im 2600wn8😊
I was hoping and waiting for this buff ages ago… At last ! Better late than never.
what is this 2d style on bc25? halal bc25?
Restricting ammo capacity is just a stupid way of nerfing.
This changes is so nice, but this tank need practice, the gun elevation and depresion some times is a little uncomfortable when you go full speed
Now buff progetto 65
Kinda over buffed the batchad. They should also just remove the progetto 65 all together, no reason for it to be in the game anymore.
How is dispersion after firing being calculated? Are they taking away 25% of the radius of the circle or 25% of the area of the circle?
When you for your bloom goes bigger. Kind of like recoil so you have to aim between the sholots
But I don't know the formula
Am I being silly, or does the last shell in the magazine now flash? I've never noticed it before.
your not its new that the last shell in mag is blinking
8:03 amount of HP of the enemy team
Wow this tank looks good now! So good that they should nerf the progetto 65 again
Finally, an update where we get a compensation for the progetto nerfs!😂
Rework Nerfs and Buffs just means nothing but RIGG.
its criminal the the m48 only got 3kph
What the B-C 25t needs is a shorter reload time and better pen at long ranges. This new buff is not gonna make it competitive again....at all.
before i donwload the test server... can i play the bc25t without having it or do i need it on my normal acc?
On test server you have a lot of gold, credits and free experience, so you can unlock pretty much everything you want to try for free.
B-C 25t. The best light tank in the game just got better.
Watching your videos makes me miss the game
🥺 come play
I want see if finally 59 patton is a usable tank.
Also k-91 has a huge dpm but was indeed the remove of ammom
The VZ was a total Strawberry.
Awesome Xin!! And the buffs too!!
nice now i can farm credits again to rebuy the bat haha
I think it's too strong, now it's a sniper with a lot of shells and godlike camo.
reduced cooldown time for consumables 🥰🥰
Was tier 9 buffed, too?
this one was five years overdue
what are the golden icons that show up above your ammo sometimes?
Crew skills activateing
Situational crew skills. We will talk about it in the future videos
The last game showed it, that they overdid it somehow. Not everyone will play it that good as you and if there will be some good light against bc, it may be more problematic, but still it feels like too much.
The return of the king
well my Budget is not so good
My mistake was playing the Bc line when it was out of the meta. Guns are trash. It's exciting to have it revived
I'm actually afraid that this buff will damage the game more than making the game better.
Because it's very likely an overbuff for the tank.
The BC now basically has all of its weaknesses removed.
No ammo limit.
No shitty gun handling.
It became a very fast tank that has very good camo, good gun handling, good penetration with a bloody huge clip.
Seriously?
When a tank that can burst you for most of your HP if not all of your HP is this reliable, it is a problem.
No other autoloaders have this kind of reliability.
The TVP has comparable gun handling, but its penetration is so shit, its mag potential nowhere near the 1950 of the BC, and of course worse speed and camo.
The post-buff BC makes every other autoloaders in the game apart the Lion look pretty bad.
This is not how balance should be.
Batchat had one of its core issues fixed, but the other two remain; long reload and intraclip. Every other T10 MT autoloader (save for Lion) shoots their full clip in a much shorter time, and they reload much faster. The Batchat is a more specialized tank, and even if it manages to overshadow the other autoloaders, it's unlikely that the Batchat will be overpowered. Foch B has a massive clip as well, with good gun stats and mobility but it is held back by its core issues like large size and massive weakspots, so it's not overpowered; Batchat is the same way with its long reload and intraclip.
@@letacodilesupreme6445 Foch B has the biggest weakness in the game.
NO TURRET, it has no flexibility.
Long reload on the BC? I don't call 33s for 1950 potential dmg is that long.
Because its after-firing bloom is so good that you can take the Lv7 Field Mod that reduces mag reload.
2.73s intra-clip reload for 390 each shot is just like 2.5s for 360 on the Pro65.
The BC now has no weakness, doesn't matter how you look at it.
An autoloader has no weakness? We've never had something like this in the entire WoT history.
What was WG supposed to do then? How would you have buffed it then? Instead of just complaining, why not give constructive feedback and say how you think the tank should have been buffed?
As it is right now the BC is completely unplayable because you miss or bounce 3 shots and if youre lucky you pen 2 shots so it has like 1000 DPM. What the BC needed was better gun handling so it could actually do the job it was meant to. Also, balancing tanks around their ammo amount shouldnt even be a weakness or a strength or balance, its just stupid. I think we can all agree that tanks like the IS4, BC and Manticore should all have more ammo so you can actually not worry about losing a carry because you just ran out of ammo, something you cant really control. Nothing is more frustrating when you lose because of something completely out of your hands. *ALL* tanks in the game with low ammo counts across all tiers, should get more ammo, because there is no point in not allowing them to.
None of these changes should make the BC OP or broken because bad or average players will still do horribly in a BC because its still not forgiving. All thats happening is now good players will get more out of the tank as now it can actually hit shots, which has always been the BC's problem and is *very* frustrating to play, now it will be enjoyable to play, thats a good thing.
@@baohungle5410 Foch B has no turret, but it has very good mobility for a TD (especially after buffs) - it's not that inflexible. A lack of a turret doesn't kill a tank - many of the best T10 TDs have no turret and still are good tanks.
Even though Batchat can reach faster reloads, that's not useful enough. It's not worth minmaxing the reload with the field mod to have a 3.5s reload difference when sacrificing a small bit of reload means the gun handling is good even on the move, which is especially useful for 1v1s where you may have no time to stop to aim. Although the reload can be specialized in, the full intraclip is still 10.91s, considerably longer than the 4.5 of the TVP or the 7.5 of the Prog65. Other autoloaders, like VZ. 55 or 50B similarly don't require as much of a commitment to get good damage output.
The thing with the Batchat is that it sounds broken on paper (huge damage, mobility, camo, and as of common test, decent gun handling) but in practice it isn't. It still has a long exposure time to utilize its burst, and that's unfavorable with the current map design and meta favoring corridors & hulldown scenarios where the Batchat cannot flank around. Batchat (on test server) may have one of the better autoloaders in the game purely by stats, but it doesn't have usable armor like Carro/VZ/Lion, nor does it have good gun depression. Batchat is limited by the maps, meta, and its long intraclip; there's no way for the Batchat to end up overpowered atm because it's still more specialized than other tanks. The other tanks may trade camo and mobility, compared to Batchat but they have better all-round capabilities.
Would it not be very funny if batchat suddenly OP 🤣
This buff is too much in my opinion. Like why the gunhandling is that better even witout single piece of the equipment to boost it? Basically on every sinle other autoloader, its impossible to fully aim between shots without stab etc. it doesnt make sence. From my point of view, this is overbuff.
the batchat is relevant again!
last game is the most absurd game ive ever seen
Bat-Chat is BAAAACK!!!!
The Bat Chat is back!
my wet dreams about batchat become a reality🎉❤😮😊