Bringing the DeLorean DMC-12 back to the future? | Chip Foose Draws a Car - Ep. 17
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- Hop in your time machine and take a trip with Chip back to the 1980s to explore the design of John DeLorean's infamous DMC-12 "affordable" sports car. Chip takes a crack at updating certain aspects of this pop culture icon in an attempt to give it a more timeless appeal.
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I’m gonna have to disagree with Chip on the rear of the DMC12. Those taillights are iconic, and are probably the most 80s looking car feature ever. That’s the one part of the design I wouldn’t touch.
Without doubt the most recognisable car lights in history....iconic personified 👍
Or at least change too much on.
The drawing looks like how I drew cars as a kid..youd see front and back at the same time.
It came off as too lazy to draw two separate 3/4 view pics
he cant draw
He can, but in an attempt to get all angles, he went with a panoramic view of it rather than 3/4 view X2.
Well, that's the secret behind Picasso's masterpieces, he would do like a planning of an object or person, so there you have it, you little Picasso.
I knew i was seeing something off lol
I love this guy. He can take any car ever made and turn it into a Chrysler Concorde.
ROTFLMAO
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Haha. Right?
he is a crap car designer over hyped
I'm a big fan of Chip Foose. But his take on the Delorean is hideous. Glad the Delorean looks the way it does.
Yeah I'm shocked, Foose has been dictating auto style to me for some 35 years but this is... not good. Still a fan tho
I think where he went wrong was that the front looks too much like an old volvo. And he should’ve stuck with 3/4 angle, not the wacky panoramic thing he did.
@@ForzaMonkey I think where he went wrong was that It looks like a DatsunLorean
Agree whole heartedly! Chip is a legend, he got this massively wrong though!
Agree with you Megan
The Delorean was designed by legendary designer Giorgetto Giugiaro. He's responsible for some remarkable design examples (mk1 Golf/Scirocco, BMW M1, Lotus Esprit, De Tomaso Mangusta, Maserati Ghibli, etc).
He has a very specific design philosophy. I normally stick up for Chip, but this rendition takes away from Giorgetto's design aesthetic. Sometime it's better just to leave the originals alone.
Agree 100%, when something is perfect you shouldn't mess with it.
There was Mercedes concept designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro that never made production. Many of the DMC-12s designs are almost identical.
That said, I do like they way Chip redid the rear of the car.
Well said
“Let’s have some fun and draw a Delorean”
Easy there master critic. You’re acting the like chip didn’t spend the first 45 seconds explaining that he actually LIKES most of the design as a unique work from the start.
Called an exercise.
Yes, who can forget the grace and elegance of the 1988 Hyundai Excel.
I really like the DeLorean looks. Wouldn’t change anything on the car. The design is solid.
Agree Giugiaro was great he did previously Lotus Esprit, BMW M1, DeTomaso Mangusta, Porsche Tapiro.. all with similar ques in style so maybe he wanted to bring the European success into the US market the main issue was that as Chip mentioned DeLorean upset many GM leading boarder guys, so he left by it's own creating his own brand that is why this car suffered from what we know as cheap build quality by cutting all expensive materials & parts costs which translated and resulted in what DeLorean car it is ..
@@poplaurentiu4148 John DeLorean designed the car. Giorgetto helped with the final design
I shouldn't be able to see the front back and side all at the same time unless the car has been wrecked
NO!!!
Front end reminds me of an 80’s Buick Skylark.
Looks terrible.
My mother owned a Skylark would always scrape horribly getting out of parking structures.😖
chip foose is over hyped
a skylark mated with a Mach 1 ... >:(
Delorean is perfect the way it is. It will look just as good in a 1000 years.
That thing he drew was nasty.
It is interesting that Chip mentioned a Yugo at the end. I would really like to see an redesign of a Yugo by Chip Foose!
My two favorite parts of the Delorean...the grill/front of the car and the back. Sorry but the Delorean is perfect like it is/was.
Also front looks like an old VW Jetta now... lol.
Renault Fuego came to my mind
@@cariusx haha... Chip bats a .999 usually.
cariusx I also got that, as well as a Sterling. His new front looks super generic 80's as does the tail lights. The original is so much better
looks like a ford
I love Chip but low riding and destroying the design of a a perfect 80s car?! Maybe it's only cause I dislike lowered cars in general. It always looks like owners of these cars had mechanics that hate them by breaking their suspensions.
chip is hyped
Hey! low riders will never go out of estilo, eeese!
After having wrenched on at least a few thousand of these back in the day I can honestly say there was much room for improvement from new. By the time the DMC12 left Dunmurray there were 2 pages of mechanical retrofits alone! As for the body, the front/rear fascias never fit correctly as their mounting systems were ill conceived costing John Z a small fortune in man hours to correct. I made a special pry bar in the shape of a P trap to lift the center of the front fascia up by bending the metal panel under it. There were also many a cracked front fender so to that end fabricating a new DMC13 would be better in some alloy with a stainless wrap. If I remember correctly there were horrendous reception problems with the stereos in the DMC12 on account of static caused by bare metal at speed. Also, you Foose Folk need to add a baby bump to that hood so the rear flippin tire can actually be stowed. And don't let any of that Lotus epoxy-coated-buffoonery influence the suspension design for godsakes.
Whats he drawing?? Pimp my Delorean??
I wouldn`t mess with the DeLorean. It is fine just as it is.
It's Iconic and I like it the way it is. You can't update the design and bring it into the future. That's already been done. Thanks Doc!
The "new" front looks like a Volvo 🤣
It had a volvo engine so why not.
@@joseventurausmc PVR exactly
old one if that lol
I wish I could go back to 1955 and stop Chip from drawing this dreadful picture :-(
You would need a time machine.
This video series with Chip is phenomenal. I could watch this series for years to come.
Great job Chip. You turned a DeLorean into a J-car Cavalier. Some cars were never meant to be approved upon.
It’s perfect in its original form..
Final product looks like a 90's American Ford Escort redesigned front and a 240z redesigned rear. 🤔 The DMC-12 was a quintessential 80's car in the 80's from the 80's.... The redsigned one barely rubs the 90's in the authentic way....
Heh, I was thinking the rear looked like a 300zx
@@dumahim and it kind of does. Either way, very Nissan by design.
Coolest car to come out of the 80s
My Navy division officer bought a new DeLorean back in the day. He waited 9 months for delivery, he drove it for a week and it spent the next year in and out of the dealer shop for "required testing, maintenance and upgrades", always scheduled during our at sea periods... of course. He sold it 10 years later for twice what he paid for it... (not considering all the fixes, add-ons, upgrading which all had "Co-Pay's") And when I drove it once, it was a pig... a heavy pig. I had a 65 Mustang with a very tired six and 3 speed, and by that scale it was not a pig. Looked like a pig but drove like an old cat, smooth and slow. The DeLorean felt claustrophobic, like being in a safe... the kind you put all your loot in. My DO's wife refused to ride in it... she said it reminded her of a casket... the kind they bury you in. How about drawing a upsized Cadillac Escalade version of the Chevy HHR style? Now that would be ART, Foose kind of ART. Thanks Chip!
My father in law was a product manager for DMC , he was there for the foundations of the factory being laid into the ground until it closed. In its time it was a high tech factory with robot type moving platforms believe it or not ,The biggest mistake was how quickly the car went from designed to manufacture, I think it was 2 years which is crazy , most probably would be around 5 to 10 years 🤔.. the factory was also built in the time of the “troubles”situation in Ireland and it got fire bombed destroying plans and other important information, but amazingly both sides of these factions worked under the same roof without issue..it has a very interesting history, Back to the future film appearance was just part of it.
I used to think I could draw cars but when I showed the finished work to my wife, she would always say it looked twisted. Looking at this, I can see what she meant.
I understand Chip's take on the DeLorean, it's not perfect, however, changing the design of that car, would be like looking at the Mona Lisa, and deciding to make her into a blonde instead of a brunette, or something ridiculous like that. That is the design, whether we like it or not, and it is Iconic, and a permanent part of Automotive History.
I own a DeLorean DMC-12 and Personally I wouldn't change a single design aspect of the DeLorean DMC-12, exterior or interior. I don't not think it was dated when it came out and it still stands out as a beautiful car today, especially the interior was so clean and simple it was really ahead of it's time. I remember hearing John DeLorean say in an interview, "I wanted the interior to still look good 40 years from now. " And it does. Mechanically and electronically the car is and has always been a nightmare. I bought my car with 6k original mike's on it and the car show show condition. Sadly that's not the case anymore. The car has never run in any real way. It's a giant, expensive paperweight that breaks my heart every day I see it. I've sent the car out to be fix and had it come back more damaged, I spent my saving getting it relates by the DeLorean dealership in Southern California and the car. Dies before I could get it home and so many things were just done wrong got he car and they refuse to take any ownership of responsibility. So basically I gave them my life savings so they could make my car even worse. It's so depressing. I keep promising my nephew I'll pick him up from school in it and I can't. I've missed out on special event because I didn't have my car. It's so depressing. My dream car has been nothing but a nightmare.
I love this version , but the optical illusion of see both the front and back view at the same time ..... made myeyes go funny 😄😆
Huge respect for Chip and I sure can't do it better. But if he thinks the car looked dated before it now looks like a 70s concept of a 2000 car.
To be honest I like the original design more. Is such a 80’s icon.
The graduated circle template is so cool old school.
Great Scott! This isn't the best work I've seen from Biff Foose.
A new Delorean that has an actual reliable engine and something that won’t try to lock you in would be ideal
спереди выглядит как Москвич 2141
Interesting drawing that gives us a side view and 3/4 front and rears at the same time.
Great vid! You should do one where Chip goes over the art supplies he uses for these creations.
It's like a mullet , you cant erase it , it's part of of our history .
2021 is looking up for you, Hagerty. You are rapidly becoming my favorite channel. Can wait for Thursday with Jason. I think thats gonna seal the deal.
@David w haha neither just a a wishful bromance for Jason Cammisa haha
And very appreciative of the new shows by Hagerty
Chip your the best! The original car should stay in the past like everyone that thinks it looks great for whatever reason. Maybe they like it because it takes them back to a simpler time, but I think your subtle changes are cool and clean. I’m sure you’d have a big block with tons of power in it.
I like 👍🏾! Would love to see it into production!
At least he didn't add the 24" wheels
He's basically taken the best parts of the car and made a generic 1980s front and rear end.
1990s generic, no even todays.
hmm, I have been restoring my Delorean for almost 20 years now (sad I know). I was hoping for some cool design ideas to make her a little different. I think Chip is super talented, but this fell flat with me.... Looks like the front and back of an 80's Dodge Omni.
Chip,,, met you at Pasadena college of design back in the day,,,,, looks like Pietro Frua’s design concept proposal for the 914....or the VW-Porsche Tapiro ,,,,once again back in the day......Ps: Still love you talent after all these years....
Wow! I was drawing banana cars like this as a child because I wanted to capture the front and the pack of the car at the same time 😂🍌🚗
That's some MC Escher action going with the drawing. I like the rear change but I'm not feeling the front end. Thats the trouble with redesigning iconic vehicles. They are so ingrained into the brain that most people are pretty critical of any change. I know that happened with chip's countach design as well. Interesting to see nonetheless.
Looks like it would do left-turns really well.
😂
Mr Foose thank you really are one of the greatest hot rod guy be safe and may God bless you thank you
his design looks underwhelming to me
Chip Foose drawing in the 4th dimension.
The double-perspective is genius, Chip. Wow.
While it was an interesting thought experiment, there's one problem with your design, Chip... The back edge of the door won't accommodate the window rolling down, and you didn't put in the "mini, inset window" into the full window to deal with that.
Stretched Conquest vibes for days x.x.
The original idea for a time machine - or at least one way previous to the DMC-12 - was a phone booth!
As a former DeLorean owner and all-time Foose fan, I was so excited for this. But this just wasn't it. I like his idea to bring the rear bumper around, but the front looks so plain now. Changing the angle made it look like an 80s Mustang or worse. The compact design is what makes the car work, and now it's too long (especially with the MC Escher drawing). I like that he didn't change the wheels though, and improved the door line. The taillights were also really special, and I wish he would have kept that look but just make them deeper. The biggest issue with the car was that it went from a mid-engine design to rear engine... just to fit golf clubs -- sounds familiar (cough C8 cough), and that's coming from somebody with one ordered.
The first design you have done, that does not work, in my opinion. I was excited to see what you would do. Glad this was not my only knowledge of your phenomenal design skills!
The design of the delorean was beautiful as is... problem was all power train.
Hello? Hello McFly? The DeLorean is perfect and of its time. Chip normally adds to a design, but this time he's turned a Silk Purse back into a Sows ear.
Hi, I'm from Spain new on this channel. The whole redesign is clearly based, for me, on a Renault Alpine GTA in the front and the Challenger backlights.
Sorry Mr. Foose but the original DeLorean was a great design and inspired Lotus Sprit later ... also another great car. I'll keep on watching for a better drawing.
Cool Contemporary Design and Concept for me.
Delorean reminds me of the Toyota celica Supra 1st gen.
Hey Chip, bet you can't improve on this '79-'81 Supra body! It's up there with the 2000gt & jag e-type! Most beautiful works of art ever!
There's a few spots that could be improved, but this reminds me of a Capris that's been beaten with an ugly stick.
For Heavens sake, the DeLorean doesn't need to be dropped like an East LA junk roller.
Very nice touch on 5/4 view!
I'll admit I kept looking through comments for someone who would have commented on the DeLorean story and I just didn't see it. I wouldn't say that it was so much John Z's mouth getting the better of him so much as just that he apparently was a threat. He actually pissed people off on a few fronts, particularly the British Parliament when he decided to found the company in Ireland which by itself was a whole bowl of wax because of the relationship of both nations. There was also the talk about the cocaine and money laundering, which come to find out was never proven and later come out to be a false accusation as a "legitimate" front to hose him down. There were also the other auto manufacturers who saw this as a potential threat to their sales. Many people had it out for the guy and when he died, he was both broke and living on a farm with the tattered remains of his family. The complete story is out there and those are just pieces of the puzzle.
This is what AI or a computer just cannot do, and is keeping with the same essence of how the original was made the human factor of the design gives it soul.
Awesome design. Love the idea !!! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Listen chip. This would make a great special series redesign the DeLorean. You got the resources man, Netflix or Amazon will pick it up.
A HAPPY NEW YEAR ! to you Chip & Friends
some cars never can't be change like DeLorean , mini ,beetle and others is that reason is icon's
Looks a bit like a corrado. Which I LOVE.
Chips hair is bangin
How about doing a redesign of the 96 Impala SS. What would it look like with your added touch?
I've seen one in real life, and it is just perfect as is !
A 2021 version would be cool, but playing around with the original design will probably not work IMHO :)
Is that 90 Tbird or Mustang headlights and side markers with Pantera tail lights? Maybe the drawing doesn't do it justice.
I like the missing rubber strip down the sides and why not eliminate the front and rear rubber add ons completely (all stainless o like Chips revision in aluminum painted gray metallic)...I like the Billet aluminum versions of the factory wheels and IF he lowers and stretches it like the drawing. (chip draws them that way, but doesn't usually build it lowered and stretched)
As always, Chip's designs are always amazing. A rare talent. I think he got the rear end looking much better but didn't quite get the look on the front. It does have the Citroen feel to it which doesn't quite fit the car. His next attempt should be a 1966 Triumph Spitfire. That front end could use a makeover.
I like what you did with the rear. Reminds me of the Mangusta. However the front looks like a cheap Ford Escort. Also how does the door window open? No way that glass fits into the door. Pretty cool design showing the front and rear at the same time I never seen that before.
Id love to have a drawing of his signed and framed on my wall
Controversial but very good. I like it.
Nice work. I like the new rear more than the new front...but nice work. The original rubber-look front and rear were never up to par with the rest of the design.
Mr. Chip I think of you .you are the best one that has a fixing car I have ever seen that made any car from its real look to new look, in your tv show,, that the car you fix became 1000 time more good and cute than the original factory-made inside-outside made,, I know that you are very top good in design cars 2D,3D real,, but the DeLorean car is ok good at all in total look when it was made at its time,, what you did for it was less in total look but really good to another type of the Delorean at more different kind,,,
I love your tv show very much the art of making cars a dream one,, you are the best
Amazing how you can make the front and back end face the viewer at the same time. 🤔
Doc Brown would be horrified
the reason he went with the Stainless steel is because the panels if damaged could easily be removed and another put on with out any work done to it such as having to paint it. he wanted to make a car that was built to last. Something the car makers of today dont want to do. have it for a few years and get another car. I dont think so
You made the front look like a Moskvich 2141 :D They're both supposed to be affordable I guess - the rear a little bit as well!
The design of the front part turned out like on the Soviet car 86's Moskvich 2141!))
I thought there was a small option a certain dealerships or a dealership or you could actually get it in red I know I've seen them somewhere before if I remember correctly
There is in the drawing a clear change in height of the roof line, the side windows are narrower. To really get an idea of the merits of the changes proposed...this just confuses things. In any event I thought the original rear facia one of the most successful aspects of the original design. The C pillars really date the car to me. Difficult to change though. Chip's front end looks like an Monza, missed the mark to me.
I respect your work, but the front end restyle looks like a Renault Alpine, and the rear like something AMC would have done for the Javelin. Not your best effort. That said, I don't think the design of the DMC-12 is without fault. IMO, it is just about the most milquetoast iteration of the 60s and 70s "Atomic Doorstop" design aesthetic, and the powertrain is laughably weak.
I'm a big fan of Foose but this redesign isn't one of his best. The design section of a Delorean, especially the tail lights are iconic and what gives it its 80s cool.
I don't know much about cars, but I think the original DMC is one of the best-looking cars ever. It was just not the right time for it, and the only negative side was engine was severely underpowered
just slam it a few inches and put a supercharger in it, and it's what it deserves to be.
Que projeto incrível, parabéns, gosto muito dos seus projetos Chip, uma nova visão de um carro super emblemático, de volta para futuro é meu filme favorito, um carro tão marcante para trilogia, acredito ser difícil modificar um carro que está na memoria de milhares de pessoas, particularmente devo dizer, achei a frente parecido com chevrolet chevette 1987 aqui no Brasil, carro muito usado no drift atualmente, e a traseira lembra bastante o nissan 300zx.
He drew the car from 3 different angles in to one picture. Interesting
Wow.. never seen him draw a car before...?
As it a wraparound concept drawing cant really tell what it reminds me of but I see at least 4 cars - front reminds me of an austin Ambassador (uk car ) side kinda has a Corvette/porsche 928 look and rear reminds me of a Ferrari testarossa basically looks a mess
I'm seeing '80's Pininfarina with some Miura in it's ass, mixed with a bit of Mercury Merkur XR4TI in the front. That would've killed during that time period.
Not every design has to be about efficiency or fixing problems. This redesign killed what makes the DMC12 look different from other cars (e.g. the boxy 80’s corolla-like front and the grid-like rear lights). It now looks like a silver 1985 Camaro IROC-Z.
You just destroyed the DeLorean. That drawing was hideous.
chip foose is over hyped
The rear looks ok. A bit like a 300 ZX. The front though, whew. Not good. The ramp up angle does bug me a bit, but isn't the right look at all.