Here is the second video of this series. Get a tour in Cicely's studio and learn how she does it: th-cam.com/video/FaWPyq5pzr0/w-d-xo.html Continue learning Ableton Live & Push from my online courses: www.lnamusic.com/programs Get -10% with the code: STARTCREATING10
LNA, thank you so much for putting this interview together and asking these wonderful questions! Cicely's answers were so insightful and helpful. Keep up the awesome work! I'm glad my question made the cut 😁
You know what's insane???? The engineering internet world is full "what gear should I buy" questions. But whenever a real professional speaks the last answer to a question is gear. It's always about the "soft skills" if you will. The listening to a client. The communication skills. The subtleties of the work. The boring side of things lol. I think this is what separates a real working professional from the one still dreaming. Yet somehow we mostly only hear from the dreamers online. I guess the working professionals are too busy working to post content :) Thanks to both of you for the great video showing what is professionals actually worry about when working!
deadmau5´s mastering chain is : Enginers Filter just to cut 10 Hz Compressor, Pro L Limiter then Ableton Limiter often a span to see if there is good balabnce
This does exactly what it says on the tin - it introduces the song, so it goes at the start. The intro has several functions in a song, for example it gives people an initial idea of what the song will be like, and sets the scene for what’s to come. It can be used to get people into the best mind frame to enjoy the song, and tease the mood that will follow. Introductions are important because the human ear and mind sometimes have a delay factor when hearing something new. As an example - try walking up to your partner or a friend and saying an important statement without any expression or warning beforehand. More often than not the other person will miss it, not hear it, or only get the second half of the statement. This is because it takes a moment for them to tune into you and what you are saying. However, if you were to flag that important statement first by saying “I’ve got something to tell you” or “can you listen to this?”, you have given them the introduction and provided them with time to tune in as you elaborate. An introduction doesn’t have to be long. In some genres, it might be 4 bars, in a lot of ‘radio ready’ songs it may be a cut down/altered part of the chorus. In a DJ/Club arrangement, the intro beat may go on for 8 or more bars to allow the DJ to merge your song with the previous one. It can be based on what is appropriate for the genre or situation - or just might be a case of personal preference.
Verse also is where you set the scene aka start the story. And also it’s where the story conflict is at while verse 2 is the resolution. Verse 1 is also where the story is being detailed too.
The verses, both lyrically and instrumentally, are often the ‘story’ of the song.In some genres (especially in country music), there are real stories that take you on a journey over 2-3 or more verses. In others, it provides a framework for the statement or theme in the chorus. For some, it is a stepping stone before a highlight.
A break can be also called as “Instrumental” or “Prelude”. Depending on the placing of the break, it can also serve as the climax of the song together with the bridge, although it usually has no lyrics. It is where heavy instrumentals kick in. This part emphasizes guitar licks and lead parts, or the piano parts or bass parts or whatever, depending on the genre of the song. Usually it takes two or four bars, but some songs take six or even eight bars of break. This part is also the breathing point of the song, as well as, the mood retainer of the song. It maintains the mood and meaning set by the intro, verse, pre-chorus and chorus. So basically, it is placed in between the chorus and bridge. This part also attracts listeners who are very interested in instrumentals as it mainly highlights the instrument part of the song.
You nailed it! This kind of "segue" thing happens at the mastering stage of an album... typically the engineer masters all the songs together and then splits the songs up into their own tracks. This way the whole album could play like "one long song" with about the same audio levels between each song. That's why sometimes you'll hear the end of a song at the beginning of another. Hope this helps!
I love the intro. Audio science is fact. I hated my mixing and my mastering is nothing special. Trying to find people who are'nt married to 'just have fun! It's all creative expression!' Naw Dawg.🤣 Thanks!
Nothing is a dark art. Mastering is these things 1.a proper room at a critical listening resolution 2. Adequate monitoring 3.Ability to listen and make decisions to help the music translate as best as possible Critical listening skills take time to develop. Everything takes proper training/practice to do it well
A verse can also be independent without the intro if and only if the verse can supply the mood for the song. That’s why some songs have intros, while other songs start with a verse.
Intro - from the word “Introduction”, this part comes at the beginning of the song. It is usually an . It also gives the listener a hint of what genre the song is and what expression it may give. An intro, when compared to the plot of a story, is the opening or the “Once upon a time” part of the song.
My question for people in this profession is. Is it difficult to mix music you don't like? There's a few musical genres I don't care for. I think I would have difficulty doing her job. Also, does she get to pick and choose what kind of music she mixes? I can't see this as an option if just starting out in the industry.
A bridge can also be called “Coda”, this part highlights the chorus, thus, making this part the climax of the song. Usually, the instrumentals and vocals goes heavy or light at this part depending on the song. It is considered as the instrumental chant of any song as it is also sounds chanty and rising. The bridge part can have as many as eight sentences or lines, but most artist makes only two lines or phrases and repeat it by two or four times. This part can also be catchy as the chorus.
Usually, an intro takes an eight-count / note interval or a sixteen-count / note interval. Some songs take a thirty-two or more counts for the intro, taking up more than a minute of the whole length of the song.
Verse does have the story details like verse 1 set up the story aka set up the scene while verse 2 basically continue the story aka conflict and resolution and while the bridge is basically the climax of your song 🎵 aka story. And chorus is the hook which is true. Verse does basically have the story details when listening 👂 to a studio album 💿 like newsboys not ashamed and the whole entire album 💿 when looking at the front and back album 💿 it becomes one big huge story. Usually the songs on an album are the result of an artist's creations during a season of life. This means the songs can all speak to a similar set of themes, ideas and topics. So the aim of an album name is to try and sum up the big story/concept that all the songs pull from when they were written. It's not always like these, especially today. But traditionally, an album is like a "book" with the songs inside being like "chapters." Fun stuff! (I think 🤓) To me, it does still count as one whole story, even if there's no segue between tracks. I think it's just an artistic choice to use segues. I think even if the songs start and stop on their own, they can still point back to the big theme of the album 👍 100%, every song calls for its own structure- most of the time that means shifting around the "traditional arrangements." Part of what makes writing so fun! Totally agree. Most of the time our intuition takes over and we don't even think about the terms of the sections we're writing. That's the best! And structure is absolutely a tool for furthering and supporting the story & concept 👍 You nailed it! This kind of "segue" thing happens at the mastering stage of an album... typically the engineer masters all the songs together and then splits the songs up into their own tracks. This way the whole album could play like "one long song" with about the same audio levels between each song. That's why sometimes you'll hear the end of a song at the beginning of another. Hope this helps!
To me, it does still count as one whole story, even if there's no segue between tracks. I think it's just an artistic choice to use segues. I think even if the songs start and stop on their own, they can still point back to the big theme of the album 👍
You and Jonathan Byrd agreed that song 🎵 🎧 🎶 tells a story. And also you guys both agree that you guys know that a chapter book 📖 and a studio album 💿 are both viewed as a studio album 💿 but in a different way now that’s something that definitely blows my mind and I was like woah 🤯 that’s cool 😎. And you know that music 🎼 🎶 🎵 can definitely change a person’s life and you know it for sure.
I would say it does count! I understand segue to mean: continue without pause to another section. So I view segue as an artistic choice. Usually an album is viewed as one big story by the artist or band. So they could use segue as a way to transition from song to song, but also as a way to furthers the story and connect things to the "big concept" of the whole album. Hope this helps!
Thank you ☺️ 😊 🙏 LNA for answering my question about mastering but do you know that segue also plays a huge part of the mastering stage? And Nathan Eswine told me was that when you mastering a track all of the songs are on the same levels but they became one ☝️ to me now that’s cool 😎 but very interesting 🧐 all at the same time. And also for mastering is that they become one long song 🎵 that’s why you listen 👂 to a track from the end and beginning that’s why listen to the story from beginning to end LNA.
It is important that you catch your listeners by just hearing your song’s intro, or else they are likely to just skip your song. It must have a good instrumental quality.
Automation or clip gain in post, so the difference between tracks isn't to big, that should be enough. Wouldn't recommend slapping on a limiter without doing that first at least.
with writing a narrative story, or storytelling. Song Structures work very much the same as the plot of a story. Table Of Contents A chapter book 📖 and a studio album 💿 both tells a story but totally in a different way.
Such a drag being interrupted by the COMMERCIALS all the time. I pay good money for TH-cam Premium, so I don't have to put up with them. I will definitely give up on this channel if they continue. Shame, but I really DO NOT COMMERCIALS! :|
Here is the second video of this series. Get a tour in Cicely's studio and learn how she does it: th-cam.com/video/FaWPyq5pzr0/w-d-xo.html
Continue learning Ableton Live & Push from my online courses: www.lnamusic.com/programs
Get -10% with the code: STARTCREATING10
LNA, thank you so much for putting this interview together and asking these wonderful questions! Cicely's answers were so insightful and helpful. Keep up the awesome work!
I'm glad my question made the cut 😁
Yay glad you liked it!!
You know what's insane????
The engineering internet world is full "what gear should I buy" questions. But whenever a real professional speaks the last answer to a question is gear.
It's always about the "soft skills" if you will. The listening to a client. The communication skills. The subtleties of the work. The boring side of things lol.
I think this is what separates a real working professional from the one still dreaming. Yet somehow we mostly only hear from the dreamers online.
I guess the working professionals are too busy working to post content :)
Thanks to both of you for the great video showing what is professionals actually worry about when working!
Glad you liked the video and I totally agree with your thoughts!
deadmau5´s mastering chain is : Enginers Filter just to cut 10 Hz Compressor, Pro L Limiter then Ableton Limiter often a span to see if there is good balabnce
Can't wait for the others! "It depends" is probably what I'll remember the most 🤩...
Hahh it definitely depends 😅😂
Enjoyed this chat with you smart ladies.
Glad you liked it!
Thanks lina for Arrangging the Session
My pleasuire :)
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@@LNADoesAudioStuff Did you checked out my TH-cam comment yet LNA?
This does exactly what it says on the tin - it introduces the song, so it goes at the start. The intro has several functions in a song, for example it gives people an initial idea of what the song will be like, and sets the scene for what’s to come. It can be used to get people into the best mind frame to enjoy the song, and tease the mood that will follow. Introductions are important because the human ear and mind sometimes have a delay factor when hearing something new. As an example - try walking up to your partner or a friend and saying an important statement without any expression or warning beforehand. More often than not the other person will miss it, not hear it, or only get the second half of the statement. This is because it takes a moment for them to tune into you and what you are saying. However, if you were to flag that important statement first by saying “I’ve got something to tell you” or “can you listen to this?”, you have given them the introduction and provided them with time to tune in as you elaborate. An introduction doesn’t have to be long. In some genres, it might be 4 bars, in a lot of ‘radio ready’ songs it may be a cut down/altered part of the chorus. In a DJ/Club arrangement, the intro beat may go on for 8 or more bars to allow the DJ to merge your song with the previous one. It can be based on what is appropriate for the genre or situation - or just might be a case of personal preference.
Thank you for checking out my question LNA.
Dope dope dope! Thank you guys!
😁
Verse also is where you set the scene aka start the story. And also it’s where the story conflict is at while verse 2 is the resolution. Verse 1 is also where the story is being detailed too.
Thank you so much for this video, so many questions answered 🔥
Yay happy you liked it Ira ❤️
The verses, both lyrically and instrumentally, are often the ‘story’ of the song.In some genres (especially in country music), there are real stories that take you on a journey over 2-3 or more verses. In others, it provides a framework for the statement or theme in the chorus. For some, it is a stepping stone before a highlight.
Looking forward to the upcoming tutorials, thanks so much!
Glad you liked it!
A break can be also called as “Instrumental” or “Prelude”. Depending on the placing of the break, it can also serve as the climax of the song together with the bridge, although it usually has no lyrics. It is where heavy instrumentals kick in.
This part emphasizes guitar licks and lead parts, or the piano parts or bass parts or whatever, depending on the genre of the song. Usually it takes two or four bars, but some songs take six or even eight bars of break.
This part is also the breathing point of the song, as well as, the mood retainer of the song. It maintains the mood and meaning set by the intro, verse, pre-chorus and chorus. So basically, it is placed in between the chorus and bridge.
This part also attracts listeners who are very interested in instrumentals as it mainly highlights the instrument part of the song.
You nailed it! This kind of "segue" thing happens at the mastering stage of an album... typically the engineer masters all the songs together and then splits the songs up into their own tracks. This way the whole album could play like "one long song" with about the same audio levels between each song. That's why sometimes you'll hear the end of a song at the beginning of another. Hope this helps!
I love the intro. Audio science is fact. I hated my mixing and my mastering is nothing special. Trying to find people who are'nt married to 'just have fun! It's all creative expression!'
Naw Dawg.🤣
Thanks!
Hah yeah it’s all physics! 🙌💕
Great video! Wow! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Always thought mastering was a bit of a dark art. Thankyou for throwing some light on it.
Happy this helped!
Nothing is a dark art. Mastering is these things
1.a proper room at a critical listening resolution
2. Adequate monitoring
3.Ability to listen and make decisions to help the music translate as best as possible
Critical listening skills take time to develop. Everything takes proper training/practice to do it well
Fascinating and great insights - much needed too
Happy you liked it!
Great fun and relaxed video with some awesome answers on mastering 🤗
Happy you liked it! ☺️
Thank you. Very informative
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing Interview! Tks
Glad you liked it ☺️
Vai ser perfeito essa serie de videos sobre masterização!❤️
You’re an awesome 😎 TH-cam channel.
A verse can also be independent without the intro if and only if the verse can supply the mood for the song. That’s why some songs have intros, while other songs start with a verse.
Intro - from the word “Introduction”, this part comes at the beginning of the song. It is usually an . It also gives the listener a hint of what genre the song is and what expression it may give. An intro, when compared to the plot of a story, is the opening or the “Once upon a time” part of the song.
Super interesting stuff. Kiitos & thanks to both of you! 💖🥰
Happy you liked it!
My question for people in this profession is. Is it difficult to mix music you don't like? There's a few musical genres I don't care for. I think I would have difficulty doing her job. Also, does she get to pick and choose what kind of music she mixes? I can't see this as an option if just starting out in the industry.
i like her english accent reminds me of when i lived in England
A bridge can also be called “Coda”, this part highlights the chorus, thus, making this part the climax of the song. Usually, the instrumentals and vocals goes heavy or light at this part depending on the song. It is considered as the instrumental chant of any song as it is also sounds chanty and rising.
The bridge part can have as many as eight sentences or lines, but most artist makes only two lines or phrases and repeat it by two or four times. This part can also be catchy as the chorus.
An intro . This type of sequence is often used on energetic songs and genres like rock songs.
Thank you for this.
My pleasuire!
Usually, an intro takes an eight-count / note interval or a sixteen-count / note interval. Some songs take a thirty-two or more counts for the intro, taking up more than a minute of the whole length of the song.
Verse does have the story details like verse 1 set up the story aka set up the scene while verse 2 basically continue the story aka conflict and resolution and while the bridge is basically the climax of your song 🎵 aka story. And chorus is the hook which is true. Verse does basically have the story details when listening 👂 to a studio album 💿 like newsboys not ashamed and the whole entire album 💿 when looking at the front and back album 💿 it becomes one big huge story. Usually the songs on an album are the result of an artist's creations during a season of life. This means the songs can all speak to a similar set of themes, ideas and topics. So the aim of an album name is to try and sum up the big story/concept that all the songs pull from when they were written. It's not always like these, especially today. But traditionally, an album is like a "book" with the songs inside being like "chapters." Fun stuff! (I think 🤓) To me, it does still count as one whole story, even if there's no segue between tracks. I think it's just an artistic choice to use segues. I think even if the songs start and stop on their own, they can still point back to the big theme of the album 👍 100%, every song calls for its own structure- most of the time that means shifting around the "traditional arrangements." Part of what makes writing so fun! Totally agree. Most of the time our intuition takes over and we don't even think about the terms of the sections we're writing. That's the best! And structure is absolutely a tool for furthering and supporting the story & concept 👍 You nailed it! This kind of "segue" thing happens at the mastering stage of an album... typically the engineer masters all the songs together and then splits the songs up into their own tracks. This way the whole album could play like "one long song" with about the same audio levels between each song. That's why sometimes you'll hear the end of a song at the beginning of another. Hope this helps!
I have question. -6 headroom left.then average volume is -13 got nice?
To me, it does still count as one whole story, even if there's no segue between tracks. I think it's just an artistic choice to use segues. I think even if the songs start and stop on their own, they can still point back to the big theme of the album 👍
You and Jonathan Byrd agreed that song 🎵 🎧 🎶 tells a story. And also you guys both agree that you guys know that a chapter book 📖 and a studio album 💿 are both viewed as a studio album 💿 but in a different way now that’s something that definitely blows my mind and I was like woah 🤯 that’s cool 😎. And you know that music 🎼 🎶 🎵 can definitely change a person’s life and you know it for sure.
I would say it does count! I understand segue to mean: continue without pause to another section. So I view segue as an artistic choice. Usually an album is viewed as one big story by the artist or band. So they could use segue as a way to transition from song to song, but also as a way to furthers the story and connect things to the "big concept" of the whole album. Hope this helps!
And the chorus is the catchy and hook and for the bridge it twist everything around.
Thank you ☺️ 😊 🙏 LNA for answering my question about mastering but do you know that segue also plays a huge part of the mastering stage? And Nathan Eswine told me was that when you mastering a track all of the songs are on the same levels but they became one ☝️ to me now that’s cool 😎 but very interesting 🧐 all at the same time. And also for mastering is that they become one long song 🎵 that’s why you listen 👂 to a track from the end and beginning that’s why listen to the story from beginning to end LNA.
It is important that you catch your listeners by just hearing your song’s intro, or else they are likely to just skip your song. It must have a good instrumental quality.
What about mastering a dj mix with tracks that are already mastered?
Automation or clip gain in post, so the difference between tracks isn't to big, that should be enough. Wouldn't recommend slapping on a limiter without doing that first at least.
with writing a narrative story, or storytelling. Song Structures work very much the same as the plot of a story. Table Of Contents A chapter book 📖 and a studio album 💿 both tells a story but totally in a different way.
What’s the difference between standard and deluxe album 💿 and are they the same or different from each other?
And bridge 🌁 is push something forward.
Segue is part of the mastering stage but segue is actually furthers the story which is true.
Such a drag being interrupted by the COMMERCIALS all the time. I pay good money for TH-cam Premium, so I don't have to put up with them. I will definitely give up on this channel if they continue. Shame, but I really DO NOT COMMERCIALS! :|
Sorry but I can’t work for free.
@@LNADoesAudioStuff I do understand, but I thought you had Patreons? That's all I use. I will certainly miss your enthusiasm