Guys the list was just for fun, I fully understand that even some of this stuff, if I could, I would go back and change. I did the best I could so please refrain from insulting me. 😭🙏
Not trynna be mean, but some of your PCX points are wrong. Final Act has been reworked, it used to send both pcx and the player to the area, pcx does not drain stam and gains speed. But the survivor can escape if they have high stamina. If pcx makes contact with the player he deals 70 damage. Now when Final Act is used PCX will drain stam when floating before teleporting a player. If a player is sent to Final Act they must run to the end with high speed and basically 3x stamina, although while inside Final Act the player is burning and takes damage in ticks. While the player is in Final Act another half spawns that targets the closest player, this half can only deal 10 max damage. PCX can teleport to the ring if he wants (although not a good strategy).
Because inkfell is just niloticus if they took steroids and could teleport, don't get me wrong they have their differences but if there's an inkfell good luck on doing any objectives or god forbid playing the game
as a fogborn main (yes of course I'm biased) I'd place fogborn a _little_ bit higher cuz misuse of his thunder warp ability is extremely exploitable. If you go up against a good player who knows what they're doing, and you thunder warp without regening to full stamina, you simply can't get a hit in before running out of stamina (and even if you do thunder warp on full stamina, there are still times where you cant get a hit). Additionally, foggy stare can be countered for the most part by just relying on sound and looking at the floor, which can also bait a fogborn player into using the ability and missing (you can still do the dumb strat of using a bad player to activate it and then going after the competent one though.) As a whole, I think your placement of him was pretty fair but I'd personally put him a bit higher.
True I think he's very difficult to play as the most annoying thing to play as fogborn is he can't sprint while attacking yeah fog stare is guaranteed kill but literally no one look at you they just run away he got 100 stamina but can run only 5 seconds also he got no increase time ability that made him so difficult to server wipe personally I think he should go to top 3
@@Equinox-oq4zlI personally just use foggy stare less, unless it’s a long hallway, a turn on a corner, a door, or just as a way to regain stamina for thunder warp. You can sprint in thunder warp pretty much around the moment players react, so unless they pull off some crazy juke or find a good hiding spot they are dying. That’s why I just like to run around and ambush people instead of relying on foggy stare, especially since his own foot steps are kinda quiet and he doesn’t make idle sounds.
As a lvl 30 Baldi main, he requires WAYY more skill than you think. He's very map reliable and even when you have max speed you catch up to players in like, a minute, if they can manage their stamina well. Some additions, MX requires less skill than Baldi with his abilities. Look, he can regain his abilities after a kill, SEE everyone after a kill, and just cycle all of that if a player is nearby. He does 70 DMG, 2 shots you, and basically requires almost no skill
@@Sir_Catto I mean watching both sides, with the speed baldi gets he indeed would be found easier to use but because he has teleport slaps he basically can get duped very easily compared to other monsters. Baldi will require to be skilled based on the map and on if players can dupe you easily on it, while MX has quite some bigger area of effect abilities
@@Sir_Catto Baldi is easier to juke, with the way he moves he's really hard to get used to, and you're telling me that mx is harder to use than Baldi. I'm sure you're a mx main or sum.
As a Jeff the Killer main, I find this list really doesn’t show his advantages in sneaking around survivors which is really easy and quick to do so I’d honestly put him lower.
For mimic, his footsteps aren’t silent while he’s invisible. My main counter for him is just using headphones and immediately running as soon as you hear him.
@@arthurbennemann1514 yes, thats the main counter, but there are a lot of times where flashlights are just taken immediately by other players and you cant get one due to an unfortunate spawn.
@ManipulatorTime yes, but I already managed to lose with the last player with 1 minute left because of the lantern and Stephano,maybe it was skill issue.
Vapor is really debatable with that first ability almost guranteeing a free kill. Not to mention in maps like the baldi map hes a complete powerhouse because there isnt a very large amount of area to run in you can very easily corner survivors even with such slow speed. 99% of the time your one shot because of skull minions not to mention they reveal your location. For large open maps you need some skill, but in maps that are closed and there arent really means of "getting away" from Vapor efficiently are hell to deal with because of the skull minions going to the nearest player. You are basically cooked with anything below 80 hp because Vapor can one hit. So if your half-competent as a vapor user it is very easy to server wipe. Vapor was my first gold and diamond just because of how easy the gameplay is.
I 100% agree bro, but that's why it's so debatable, because it's map dependent. Even on maps like Baldi's schoolhouse there's a chance to get away because it's spacious enough. But I see what you mean, maps like the fnaf 3 map are an absolute nightmare to run from Vapor. But it also comes into account that you can out run him even while injured so you're really reliant on your head crab which can be destroyed fairly easily. Also, like I said at the start of the video, a lot of monsters aren't that hard to play, it's just a matter of who's slightly more difficult.
"first ability almost guarantees a free kill" yall reallly saying this 🤣🤣. gang vapor sucks, the teleport doesnt work on someone who has EARS and EYES. genuinely whenever i get a vapor as a monster I praise the lord because i know its a free win
I agree . @MrMan01737, and I also agree with @GordunFrimun but not entirely... As a vapor main I can tell you that they are right about the "guaranteed kill" but it would be 50/50 since if someone is fast enough, they can break the vapor skulls almost instantly preventing you from using the teleport, which makes it difficult to play with this monster or it directly does not allow you to kill a player unless you take them by surprise (which I have done for example: using the skulls as bait as if I were using the TP, while stalking a player from behind) Not to mention that certain maps like the EXE world or the Ao Oni house (I don't know the names of the maps xD) allow players to run in circles with their elevated areas of the map, which sometimes means that you simply cannot kill players with vapor or the timer runs out for stalking them. I feel that the place where you put it is correct, it is true that Vapor is easy to use since it is only a matter of "putting skull and TP" but at the same time it is a monster that is very easy to evade or that if a player is moderately skilled, you will not be able to kill it.
@@ArrivaldCraft gang even if they stand still to break the spider skull, if they instantly hear the to they can hold shift backwards and completly loop you again. It was never a guaranteed kill, yall keep forgetting that the average pc2 player has a brain that is the size of a peanut, they instantly die to monsters like fogborn and call it op or "guaranteed kill" because they suck. Vapor just needs a rework in general. Its the number one noob stomper due to massive damage and teleport but cant kill a player who has ears and eyes. Same thing happened to old rosemary
Guys the biggest tips for pcx and so most people can stop complaining is when you hear when he uses found you just sprint then walk then sprint and walk to bait it and when you do since the new update pcz got more enlag so you can regain stamina and don't try juking cuz he can walk and gain stamina while your losing stamina this is the number one mistake people make going against pcx and so just run fowared and when he uses jump just go fowared and he might use final act depending on how long the chase is and when they do use it just run and try to out run it cuz when he uses final act he is very fast but loses stamina very fast as well so just save stamina and repeat I thinking about making a video and yap about it
I mean Fogborn isnt too hard to play, although i do think MX is easier than him, Inkfell is the hardest monster to play imo. Vapor is good but if someone know what they are doing, your screwed
I am also fogborn main,i can say that mx is to high placed and inkfell,maybe? But vapor kinda deserves it,but my problem with fogborn is that he feels like he drains his stamina faster then players
@@MrMan01737 First of all, I am a diamond MX and i can safely disagree with the placement. He definitely deserves to go lower, because all his gameplay revolves around is using POW hop when chasing survivors, using charging demise when in hallways or tight spaces (or the rare scenario where the survivor is dumb enough to walk in a straight line) and occasionally getting pow hop kills when you can. I am also a gold exe (close to diamond) and he deserves to be a bit higher on the list 100%. Going against skilled players as EXE is a total NIGHTMARE! especially when getting bad maps such as eclipse (ironic because eclipse is actually EXE's dimension lol), dungeon and forest. As an EXE, you absolutely HAVE to rely on your traps when going against loopers. If you didn't place a trap beforehand, the looper makes a mistake or you did a 1000 iq move, you are either screwed or will not have enough time to kill the rest of the survivors. You also have to manage your traps and be close to them because you want to be able to kill survivors when they get into your trap in the nick of time. EXE is also not a good chaser because not only is he slower than survivors, his too slow hitbox can be very frustrating at times and you're better off being close to them. EXE is a very skilled killer and requires knowledge of maps, strategies and EXE itself. Fogborn should also go higher because you need players to look at you to begin with if you wanna get a guaranteed kill, and thats already a struggle because players can just simply not look at you. Chasing as fogborn without the foggy stare buff activated is not a good idea, unless you can cleverly ambush players with thunder warp. Other than that he's pretty weak if players just dont look at you, and dont even get me STARTED on loopers. And finally, springtrap needs to go way lower. all his gameplay revolves around is just use ventilation error when chasing, use phantom step when out of stamina or getting a free hit, and throwing axes when in hallways. His gameplay is very repetitive and just like MX's gameplay. Just use some abilities when needed and you should be fine.
@@internetchaos5003 I agree with this, it’s kinda just hard to make the list considering a lot of the killers rely on the map. Thanks for the feedback man 👍
As a PCX main lemme explain Final act might be confusing but whenever he lands to send someone there the PCX player has an option if they wanna go there as well by pressing the final act ability while on cooldown so thats why he might randomly show up there also whenever someone is in the final act there is a clone of PCX that will go after the nearest player and the clone can also use "found you" so the PCX player can litterly go double trouble on that one survivor with the clone by itself
I feel that PCX and Forest King should lowkey swap spots, every single move in PCX's kit deals damage. At least with Forest King, you get a warning when the heads are close. Edit: Some more stuff. How many times has PCX seen a nerf/rework since he dropped?
yep 💀 first rework was with found you changing into an invis, second was adding the ability to fly during found you, third was final act adding obstacles, fourth rework was completely removing the stamina gain from jump and making into an ability that does damage, fifth was making it so that he no longer spawns in final act making it so that he spawns a clone while those in final act burn slowly to death, and the sixth one was making it so that the timer doesn't decrease when escaping final act
As a WYST main, he is a bit easy to use on certain maps. BUUUUT, for the most part, you're going to be going in loops because of corner campers on any other map. Also, WYST needs to go a bit higher since the discovery of shift tapping. Anyways, that was a great tierlist from a small creator!
@@MrMan01737 Shift tapping is when you tap shift or w I forgot to move without making noise, basically making wyst even less skillful than he already is and even less fun to go against.
@Fluffy_Puffy-f8u No i am vita mimic and fogborn main.And i don't really think vita mimic that easy.Most of places are wrong.Like,do you think niloticus the hardest monster?
10:02 hi rosemary main here just wanted to say that we do exist that's all love the content although i do think fogborn could've been lower, its pretty accurate however in my personal opinion Inkfell and Niloticus should swap places Nilo is in my opinion one of the easiest monsters to server wipe with as he can easily kill most players even without the use of godly leap depending on how close you start the chase whereas inkfell, requires all of his abilities to even have a chance at server wiping, since you could still win with nilo without using one of your abilities, the same cannot be said for inkfell as all of his abilities are crucial if u want to server wipe.
I kill the entire server with Inkfell very easily, I don't know how so many people find Inkfell difficult to use or bad when everything about it is good, the damage, the hitbox, the stamina and the skills, only the speed is bad which is not a problem since the skills make players slower than you, just place portals in good places, use the 3rd skill that I forgot the name in corridors or for locomotion, and never use the 2nd skill that I forgot the name unless there are a lot of survivors in the same place because when you use it some portals can come out and this makes it very difficult for you to have to go back and place the portals again, in my opinion it is easier to kill the entire server without using the 2nd skill than to kill using the 2nd skill
@ true however he still needs more skill than nilo in my opinion as whenever i use nilo its just a free win since he is so good. Although i love inkfell and im about to get gold with him, i still think he needs 1 or 2 small buffs And i really do mean Small buffs For example boosting his speed from 16 ti 16.5-17 (keeping him the slowest monster in the game but making it easier to move around the map and whatnot) And also slightly buff devils dive Prolly with just a lower cooldown and nothing else I love inkfell tho He is my main Although i still think he needs more skill than Nilo and a small buffs
??? Inkwell is NOT faster than survivors even with debuff,survivors still have 0.1 more speed than inkfell,by the time survivors reach 30 stamina and their debuff probably disappeared already,making it much easier to just regenerate stamina and continue to outrun inkfell
Tbh i rarely see anyone use rosemary at silver or above so its good to know that theres a small minority who actually enjoy her kit and use it properly
Hey, for me, i don't think anybody that is viewing this video should stop playing a character coz "no skill" that's like pyros in tf2, play that character if you want and that you think is fun and if someone says "no skill" answer them with the lowtiergod monologue!
a skill nilo player can destroy a server unless if some random either camps their entire gameplay or hide somewhere that nilo cant find unless if he find every corner
As a level 70 inkfell im honestly surprised he was so high up, I was expecting to see exe higher then him and while typing this making me realize us trap killers are either gifted the most free win ever or doing everything we can to get like half the people
inkfell is super fun, like I ABSOLUTELY LOVE PLAYING HIM!!! I love the fact that you need strategy to win and that devil's dive just... never hits, so you gotta use it at the perfect moment :P he takes a lot of skill but we all know that when you find a good inkfell... it's over
my brother, wyst may be unfair but compared to survivors that ACTUALLY know how to loop and outrun him makes him hella skilled, as a wyst main myself you would not believe the amount of times ive gotten looped with him
Unless its pillars, WYST on Pillars has to be THE BEST monster + map combination in terms of win rate. I have WYST level 40 and have never lost a single round on Pillars.
As a MX main,I think it's good placed,tho it could be 9#,I mean yea,you need to be a good player equilibrating stamina and habilities. And yea, it's not fast enough. But if the survivors are doing missions,they are distracted,perfect moment for a POW Hop. Yep,you can still kill survivors chasing them,but as you said,low stamina is a problem.
As a Springtrap main myself, I would say he is very tactical, and his abilities are very situational in a good way. He was one of the worst monsters after Ventilation rework and post axe throw. Now I can say he's like top 5 skill-based monsters in the game. Other than that, there isn't really anything I disagree with besides one thing. I think PCX after his "final" rework takes skill. PCX is not a "Pick-up and play" monster. You have to lock in to get a server wipe. His stamina is not very good, and you have to land some moves to get stamina back. High risk, high reward type stuff. Yes, it can do good damage to you but for those who buy med-kit before the round starts, you are gonna survive and waste the PCX's time. To me he's a low skill floor, high skill ceiling monster. He may be an annoying monster but he's only just that with a skilled player behind the wheel. I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter. Love your videos btw!
I'm a spring main and I have to say I completely agree with you the only reason for me is because of late game which he is very bad due to loopers and stamina issues besides that for me he will be top 7 because with his new buff server wiping is not that hard.
As a wyst main, I can confirm he can be no skill. Something I do find skilled is where and when to use gobble bombs and frenzy. You (can) be skilled with him if you actually use gobble bomb well, but when I see others use him, they just spam frenzy and run on people to get a free kill which is pretty no skill.
I agree that AO ONI'S stamina is very strong but they definitely take a bit more than you think, they suffer a lot from the timer since if someone notices you from afar you have no methods of getting close unless you have disguise on, which prevents you from using Oni vision. Their main issue is that their only good way to approach players is disguise since they are so loud otherwise but they can't use their player tracking ability while in disguise and good players can usually spot you from a mile away if you aren't careful due to you having default animations and only being able to use the flashlight. Their melee hitbox is also fairly short and can be juked if you time it wrong. Making them very punishing to use (unless your lobby is new in which case it's basically free but that applies to all monsters)
MY first character was Springtrap, bc I love FNaF. I would get like 3 kills as him. I also got Pixelated skin for him even though, I was bad at his character. I use EXE now :D
Why forest king is considered as unskiled!? Damage is not that big, hitbox is VERY small. I player him a lot, but I can't say that he's op... maybe it's just me, but for me forest king is one of most skilled, cuz you have to have good aim to shot facade. And his heads are not that hard to dodge. Good video tho, I'm glad that you consider pcx unskiled, it's so true
idk, hitbox is bit big, and usually u can hit players with 25 attack, you have to do 4 attacks, which takes pretty long time. And you have to aim good with blitz
Forest king’s ability to be unskilled comes from that fact you can bone break people from across the map. With the introduction of more interactive tasks means that players will stay still for a LOT longer than normal, pair that with the fact TFK basically has infinite wall hacks and an infinite range attack and it makes him pretty busted. Its not that hard to aim either unless you’re on mobile.
few notes: PCX's final act no longer adds up to the timer anymore WYST is one of the monsters that REALLY struggle against the last few survivors that know what they are doing and can outloop WYST WDYM EXE IS A "WASHED OUT BALDI"-
What a coincidence that you put MX and EXE next to each other 😂 Also I totally agree with Forest King and PCX, or just all of them, ESPECIALLY Nilo since I’ve been playing him way more often
No way fogborn is 11# for me.. fogborn is WAY more because 1.his stamina is running out SO FAST 2.After using thunder wap you can't attack or sprint which gives players 2 seconds to run and if it's closed map its even more skilled 3.if you are chasing someone its based if they are look at you because they will run instead of looking at you (this is nore harder if it's closed map) 4.even if you are in open map and you did foggy stare while you are chasing someone other player will look at you and while you are in foggy stare buff and going towards player who looked at you from a like mile away your buff will end
PcX is harder to play than it seems. Your stamina nerfs you BAD. If you know how to manage your stamina and dodge "i found you" you have half of what you need to escape him. The another thing that you need is to lose Sonic. If you lose them, they gain 2 options, either wait for i found you and keep chasing you, therefore losing time. Or, going for someone else.
Nilo main here, I 100% agree with his placement. You only get 3 portals, if you know what your doing you can easily out stam him, he struggles on open maps, and he does no damage if the survivor isn't irradiated, I have him at gold btw.
Most niloticus players i go up against spam godly leap one player for half the match I know this by all the niloticus players that won't stop meat riding one ability + springtrap needs to switch his spot cuz he's op when he's chasing you and use the blind/speedboost ability and it's annoying to run away from because 90% of the chase is gonna be heavy breathing and pitch black screens
2:20 if you press final act while it's on cooldown, you can teleport to the final act zone by the ring. Though it might as well be useless since the humans have basically infinite stamina and is MUCH faster than you in there so if anything, staying in there will actively harm you more than help you (unless you so happen to use final act on the last 2 survivors)
as gold EXE main i don't feel comfortable whatsoever putting exe THAT low. His speed and stamina stats are pretty bad, making his chases almost impossible to catch up to against competent players and as mentioned in the video, his traps ARE destroyable. The only actual way to kill competent players are to predict where players WILL run prolong the chase TOWARDS the trap, forcing the players to either run though the trap or through you.
Alright, I know I’m a MX hater. AND I STILL AM! If I made a tier list, he would be placed no-skill because, even though he has fast stamina drain, he is basically the same speed as the players and he will basically ride you till he gets the kill. 10 second cooldown for pow hop? He won’t stop chasing you. Once you are found YOURE DONE
to be honest, you are the first person who also know that mx is not really a skilled character, the reason of people playing mostly him is because they love playing as the most op mosnter, remember when inkfell was busted? yeah, literally everyone forgot about mx and started playing as him, but after nerfs they all got scared to play as him and went back to mx
I play Rosemary and Baldi the most so here are my strategies, I know they may not be good but I'm just saying. Rosemary: I often use shriek whenever chasing survivors to get them lower health rather then gaining more stamina I don't use sightless essence that much tbh, I just think it's not that good. Overall, she's my favorite monster to use. Baldi: I often use the tape and I usually manage to atleast catch one survivor, Not much else for me to talk about Baldi but he's a pretty fun monster to use. End of yapping session.
As A Gold Vapor Main, I think this he's like super OP when you get the hang of it. So basically you use Spider Skull, Follow it when it goes to a player, Wait, Use Demonic Shift And Get A Free Kill😅
As a wyst player you may say wyst is unfair for survivors but as soon as they camp and loop around the map then your kinda screwed, Ive actually haven’t had to deal with a player like this in forever so maybe they fixed this problem or I just got lucky
the whole list is fine but nilo at 1? if he focuses onto you, even without his abilities you are dead, theres nothing you can do, he outspeeds you, and if you hide he will eventualy find you anyway
Nilo belongs in 1st ngl. As a nilo main he requires a lot of skill Becasue he already has bad stamina and his damage is trash. You need to hit a survivor 5 time in order to kill them and by the time you reach them you stamina is gone. His stamina drains fast and a survivor can out run him. If you get grabbed tho by the godly leap you can still escape from nilo. Another thing is that facing him is kinda easy just avoid his puddles and you can hear him from a mile away Becasue his steps are so loud anyone can hear them.
@malikjohnson2603 Fair, i get that he needs radiation to keep track of survivors and his stamina drain IS bad, but his speed makes up to it. He has some flaws, like most monsters, but i don't think he belongs at 1.
As a dimond baldi and TFK these are some mostly good placements BUT 2 things baldi has a problem with slops so bad infact that playing him on drainage makes him THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME cause if someone drops into the middle section in chase baldi has to go all the way to the bottem of the hill befor dropping down cause with his movement he FOR SOME REASON flouts over the hole going to the other side yea it helps withcatching people camping the other side of the whole but in chase it sucks. And for the second thing i have like 3 friends that have dimond MX and i have almost gold and all of us agree that he is right above TFK not baldi
Can tell you prob only play tfk because most of these are wrong no offense while I agree some of those were fair, nilo in first and mx so high up is just insane Edit: I have silvers and up for all monsters so this is not biased
I pray that this makes people think "hmm maybe I should pick a harder to play character to flex how good I am" instead of going with PCx like everyone else I have seen entire servers full of PCx'es and I'm over here with the fatass plumber demon
ao oni's placement is so horrible, as a level 71 ao oni main, if there's a single conpetent survivor in the lobby the difficulty increases ten fold, not to mention he breathes very loudly and his footsteps are also loud too, also his shapeshifting ability cant replicate the animation pack of the survivor he's mimicking, so its a major flaw that makes him need way more skill, also i dont know about you guys but his hitbox is horrible, sometimes im literally touching someone with my body and the hit doesnt register, so yea he actually needs skill
Aint no way bro put nilo over inkfell 💀 Inkfell is basically nilo but harder to use and more rewarding (seeing the entire right side of your screen get filled by exp notifs gives so much dopamine)
As a Mobile player, nah FK might be one of the hardest monsters to play as on pc2 (also like ev small hibox character like fogborn and oh wait pcx is second on the list k nvm)
more people should play fogborn, prolly one of the funnest monsters to use just because how easy it is to secure kills, especially if you just thunder warp straight onto someone, 75% of the time theres like no counterplay to doing it
Competent players are Fogborns worst nightmare, i’ve seen for myself that thunder warping directly onto them does little to nothing since the end lag is long enough for them to react in time and get far enough away.
As a TFK main myself (she also my main too except I have at lvl 100 also im actually shocked you don’t have a diamond yet) before blade decided to buff her after her 4 consecutive nerfs people were able to counter her ability in 1 of 2 ways Lurking facade - Dodge the thing while trying to find where the monster is it cuz from what I’ve seen, most people know about the location reveal thing but are not aware of how to deal with the monster at a disadvantage (most people just give up or leave the game from what I have personally seen) Glitching Blitz - mostly used if she knows where you are and just mainly for sub-damage (as it cannot kill) in most cases try to avoid it (it used to have windup but no longer does, However it does have end lag so try not to be so predictable in movement) But otherwise since people rarely use TFK (luckily cuz I be scared going against a fellow TFK main as well) she becomes one of those “every time you die is a learning experience” If people got any more questions feel free to ask, I can’t exactly speak for every TFK user (especially when again, there are so little of us) but I personally play her as a assassin/ambusher role (if it makes sense) Me personally Pillar chase is about horror, and I like to take advantage of the fact that I can “jump” on people with surprise using the TFK like a jump-scare sorta? Hoping other fellow TFK users see this and tell me how they use her cuz I’m actually curious about it now
As a TFK main as well (Lvl 44 and my highest lvl monster) i’d argue personally that she’s slowly becoming more overpowered despite not receiving buffs for the simple reason of blade incorporating more interactive tasks in every map, making players stand still for longer and making TFK be able to land glitching blitz much easier. I’d say his most impressive trait is how he can actually handle competent players much better than most.
is vapor really that skillfull I mean there a reason he is a starter monster when I first play the game as a mosnter I server wipe without even knowing what I was doing
Even though he is the slowest the skull minion things make it WAY more annoying since he immediatly knows your location and can teleport to you basically guranteeing a free kill. Its very useful when you wanna catch a survivor off guard by cornering them with a skull minion. Also the damage is insane even for the slowest monster. So i would agree that he isnt very skillful because anyone thats half competent is gonna almost full server wipe easily.
I put him so high up on the list not because he's skillful, but I think he takes more skill than other killers. A lot of the killers if not almost all of them are really easy to play.
As a (nearly) Silver EXE, Silver PCX, Silver Forest King & GOLD MX, I have a few hot takes: *EXE* - EXE is definitely _NOT_ like Baldi in any shape or form in how he's used. If anything, EXE should be compared to Inkfell. Inkfell, upon release, was compared to being just a better version of EXE. Speaking after all the Inkfell nerfs, EXE is now the better Inkfell. Plus, he now has 20 sprint speed. On a trapper. That is *_INSANE._* *PCX* - In my opinion, PCX should definitely be the bottom of the list, right at 16th. The thing is with him right now, is, despite him supposedly being balanced. It is _STILL_ *_PCX._* Every lobby a PCX is in, the lobby gets wiped. In fact, he is at such an OP position right now, most PCX players (myself included) don't even need to use Final Act. He has 3 abilities. And PCX players only need to use TWO OF THEM. That is NUTS. If there was any way to "balance" PCX, Found You should honestly be an entirely different ability. Such as a spindash or something. And has most have correctly pointed out with most PCX players, if you are hit once by a PCX, they will continue to go for you right up until you die. *Forest King* - Forest King definitely shouldn't be last. But she's close. Probably a 13th. I wouldn't even say it's because of Lurking Facade, although it definitely helps. It's mainly Glitching Blitz. It's such an easy ability to hit, even despite it's speed being nerfed. The only thing that saves most players from Forest King is that you can out-run her, plus you get a warning when a Lurking Facade head locks onto you. *MX* - His placement is quite fair. Admittedly, most of his gameplay revolves around is using POW hop when chasing survivors, using charging demise when in hallways or tight spaces (or the rare scenario where the survivor is dumb enough to walk in a straight line) and occasionally getting pow hop kills when possible, but if playing against competent players who know how to avoid POW Hop, all you are doing as an MX is either flanking, or relying on the survivor completely blundering. MX having to use his abilities to catch up to players is a very correct statement And I also don't see how people have a problem with his 70 damage. Remember readers, that when this dude came out, his damage was *_85 + A BONE BREAK IN ONE SHOT._* Being strong like that is just sorta the whole point of him. He is at such a balanced point right now that saying he has such less skill is basically implying you don't know how to survive him. If you know what you're doing + can manage your stamina, MX is piss easy to survive. If not, you are absolutely cooked.
Nah Inkfell should be #1 tbh and this is coming from an inkfell main. Niloticus doesnt take too much skill bc a useless ability (His radiation puddle) doesnt do anything if the survivors have 2 braincells actively working. All u gotta do with him is godly and m1 and repeat.
as a Nilo main with 42 levels on him, can confirm I lack the skill to use him well. the only maps I can sometimes do decent on is Forest and Mansion, and that's assuming there's no high level looping trolls to break my ankles 30 times in a chase
TFK being the least skilled mosnter is the game is an L take. Hes quite hard to use. you cant just randomly use ablities, you gotta cut off survivors, aim blitz well, ect. PCX is a complete skill issue, no offense. Your just bad, his kit IS quite hard and not that complex
as someone who has almost every character gold Heres wat I would change/my opinion Forest king: Putting him in last is diabolical not bc hes skilled bc compared to mx nilo btw ill get to nilo in a sec I js think hes a bit harder than the others especially mx NILO: as someone who mained nilo for a long time he is really easy due to his forgiving hitbox and the fact u can constantly increase the time by spamming mist and getting someone to half health then diving them to go to the next person hes very easy and I would recommend him to beginners PCX: Im in the minority who mains him and while u think hes no skill his found u in chase if rly punishable same thing with jump if they miss found u or jump they dont have enough stam to catch up and u conserve stam until they use ablilty again were if u keep juking which is rly ez bc u can see him in found u and his jump has a rly small hitbox
Saying Ao Oni is easy to play as is just like saying Pcx is hard to play as. He has the worst hit box(I really hate it when I play as him and hated it when I first time played him, but it seems better for his classic skin). He is VERY slow. His sprint speed is the same as Vita Mimic, but even that dude seems to be faster. And also "Hard to run away from"? I should be in a hugging distance to kill players, and when I die to other Oni players, that's because I always waste my stamina even if there's no one around(I'm saying all of that as a level 100 Oni).
I disagree with Vapor HIGHLY on the grounds of his cycle is spawn skeleton, teleport to it, catch up, repeat. Fuwatti can catch up with EASE due to that damn rush
as a level 27 vapor main, he is not that hard bro its rather rare to find someone who knows how to counter vapor perfectly, and even if they do, if they slip up once in chase, 9 times outta 10 they will die due to his insta bone break
Guys the list was just for fun, I fully understand that even some of this stuff, if I could, I would go back and change. I did the best I could so please refrain from insulting me. 😭🙏
Not trynna be mean, but some of your PCX points are wrong.
Final Act has been reworked, it used to send both pcx and the player to the area, pcx does not drain stam and gains speed. But the survivor can escape if they have high stamina. If pcx makes contact with the player he deals 70 damage.
Now when Final Act is used PCX will drain stam when floating before teleporting a player. If a player is sent to Final Act they must run to the end with high speed and basically 3x stamina, although while inside Final Act the player is burning and takes damage in ticks. While the player is in Final Act another half spawns that targets the closest player, this half can only deal 10 max damage. PCX can teleport to the ring if he wants (although not a good strategy).
@ I literally didn’t know that rework happened, I lowkey thought it was a bug. Actually thanks for clearing that up.
@@MrMan01737 please never cook again
PLEASE
how tf do you think niloticus is more skilled than inkfell
@@leonoraarocho658 niloticus is a WAY MORE skilled than Inkfell.
Because inkfell is just niloticus if they took steroids and could teleport, don't get me wrong they have their differences but if there's an inkfell good luck on doing any objectives or god forbid playing the game
Thing I HATE about every pix player is that if you get hit ONCE they target you for the whole game until you die. EVEN I DO THAT
Pix?you are brazilian?
Rosemary gameplay
That's almost every monster, not just pcx...
@@randomrave6635 No it's really just pcx, I guess maybe niloticus because he does so little damage
I don’t target as pcx unless they’re in the 50 health range (I’m a level 89 pcx)
Wyst players when the survivor actually has EARS:🤯
@@VIOK465 i hate when people has ears bro 😭
I'm one of them lol@@dataexpunged6023
Or when there are no tasks in corners XD
i hate when people has eyes😭
As a WYST mani i can confirm
as a fogborn main (yes of course I'm biased) I'd place fogborn a _little_ bit higher cuz misuse of his thunder warp ability is extremely exploitable. If you go up against a good player who knows what they're doing, and you thunder warp without regening to full stamina, you simply can't get a hit in before running out of stamina (and even if you do thunder warp on full stamina, there are still times where you cant get a hit). Additionally, foggy stare can be countered for the most part by just relying on sound and looking at the floor, which can also bait a fogborn player into using the ability and missing (you can still do the dumb strat of using a bad player to activate it and then going after the competent one though.) As a whole, I think your placement of him was pretty fair but I'd personally put him a bit higher.
True I think he's very difficult to play as the most annoying thing to play as fogborn is he can't sprint while attacking yeah fog stare is guaranteed kill but literally no one look at you they just run away he got 100 stamina but can run only 5 seconds also he got no increase time ability that made him so difficult to server wipe personally I think he should go to top 3
fog horn
@@Equinox-oq4zlI personally just use foggy stare less, unless it’s a long hallway, a turn on a corner, a door, or just as a way to regain stamina for thunder warp. You can sprint in thunder warp pretty much around the moment players react, so unless they pull off some crazy juke or find a good hiding spot they are dying. That’s why I just like to run around and ambush people instead of relying on foggy stare, especially since his own foot steps are kinda quiet and he doesn’t make idle sounds.
As a lvl 30 Baldi main, he requires WAYY more skill than you think. He's very map reliable and even when you have max speed you catch up to players in like, a minute, if they can manage their stamina well.
Some additions, MX requires less skill than Baldi with his abilities. Look, he can regain his abilities after a kill, SEE everyone after a kill, and just cycle all of that if a player is nearby. He does 70 DMG, 2 shots you, and basically requires almost no skill
you're so wrong baldi is faster and easier to use than MX if you hit abilities
@@Sir_Catto I mean watching both sides, with the speed baldi gets he indeed would be found easier to use but because he has teleport slaps he basically can get duped very easily compared to other monsters. Baldi will require to be skilled based on the map and on if players can dupe you easily on it, while MX has quite some bigger area of effect abilities
@@Sir_Catto Baldi is easier to juke, with the way he moves he's really hard to get used to, and you're telling me that mx is harder to use than Baldi. I'm sure you're a mx main or sum.
real
@@razu_the_tree Bro stop glazing baldi, after 3 or 4 matches he becomes so boring because it needs near to no skill to win
Tbh I think what makes PCX so frustrating is that he can stun you twice if his clone gets you
And that happened to me
Can yall stop crying to pcx just get a friggin stephano and juke him
Plus pcx is getting less used
@@LuizAlbertoMelo-z1vBro my guy he’s being used too much, I’ve seen like 6 PCX players in the same server
@@LuizAlbertoMelo-z1vYou’re saying that cause you’re probably a PCX user ngl 😭🙏
As a Jeff the Killer main, I find this list really doesn’t show his advantages in sneaking around survivors which is really easy and quick to do so I’d honestly put him lower.
0:20 The Forest King
1:15 PCX
2:38 WYST
3:19 Vita Mimic
3:55 Ao Oni
4:28 The Fogborn
5:16 Uncle Samsonite
6:15 Baldi
6:55 MX
7:40 EXE
8:14 Vapor
8:46 Springtrap
9:22 Fuwatti
9:55 Rosemary
10:30 Inkfell
11:13 Niloticus
As a wyst main I actually try to kill I sometimes forget to use frenzy
You mean mostly?
For mimic, his footsteps aren’t silent while he’s invisible.
My main counter for him is just using headphones and immediately running as soon as you hear him.
bro any kind of light will counter him.
@@arthurbennemann1514 yes, thats the main counter, but there are a lot of times where flashlights are just taken immediately by other players and you cant get one due to an unfortunate spawn.
@ManipulatorTime yes, but I already managed to lose with the last player with 1 minute left because of the lantern and Stephano,maybe it was skill issue.
Vapor is really debatable with that first ability almost guranteeing a free kill. Not to mention in maps like the baldi map hes a complete powerhouse because there isnt a very large amount of area to run in you can very easily corner survivors even with such slow speed. 99% of the time your one shot because of skull minions not to mention they reveal your location.
For large open maps you need some skill, but in maps that are closed and there arent really means of "getting away" from Vapor efficiently are hell to deal with because of the skull minions going to the nearest player. You are basically cooked with anything below 80 hp because Vapor can one hit. So if your half-competent as a vapor user it is very easy to server wipe. Vapor was my first gold and diamond just because of how easy the gameplay is.
I 100% agree bro, but that's why it's so debatable, because it's map dependent. Even on maps like Baldi's schoolhouse there's a chance to get away because it's spacious enough. But I see what you mean, maps like the fnaf 3 map are an absolute nightmare to run from Vapor. But it also comes into account that you can out run him even while injured so you're really reliant on your head crab which can be destroyed fairly easily. Also, like I said at the start of the video, a lot of monsters aren't that hard to play, it's just a matter of who's slightly more difficult.
"first ability almost guarantees a free kill" yall reallly saying this 🤣🤣. gang vapor sucks, the teleport doesnt work on someone who has EARS and EYES. genuinely whenever i get a vapor as a monster I praise the lord because i know its a free win
I agree . @MrMan01737, and I also agree with @GordunFrimun but not entirely... As a vapor main I can tell you that they are right about the "guaranteed kill" but it would be 50/50 since if someone is fast enough, they can break the vapor skulls almost instantly preventing you from using the teleport, which makes it difficult to play with this monster or it directly does not allow you to kill a player unless you take them by surprise (which I have done for example: using the skulls as bait as if I were using the TP, while stalking a player from behind) Not to mention that certain maps like the EXE world or the Ao Oni house (I don't know the names of the maps xD) allow players to run in circles with their elevated areas of the map, which sometimes means that you simply cannot kill players with vapor or the timer runs out for stalking them. I feel that the place where you put it is correct, it is true that Vapor is easy to use since it is only a matter of "putting skull and TP" but at the same time it is a monster that is very easy to evade or that if a player is moderately skilled, you will not be able to kill it.
@@ArrivaldCraft gang even if they stand still to break the spider skull, if they instantly hear the to they can hold shift backwards and completly loop you again. It was never a guaranteed kill, yall keep forgetting that the average pc2 player has a brain that is the size of a peanut, they instantly die to monsters like fogborn and call it op or "guaranteed kill" because they suck. Vapor just needs a rework in general. Its the number one noob stomper due to massive damage and teleport but cant kill a player who has ears and eyes. Same thing happened to old rosemary
Guys the biggest tips for pcx and so most people can stop complaining is when you hear when he uses found you just sprint then walk then sprint and walk to bait it and when you do since the new update pcz got more enlag so you can regain stamina and don't try juking cuz he can walk and gain stamina while your losing stamina this is the number one mistake people make going against pcx and so just run fowared and when he uses jump just go fowared and he might use final act depending on how long the chase is and when they do use it just run and try to out run it cuz when he uses final act he is very fast but loses stamina very fast as well so just save stamina and repeat I thinking about making a video and yap about it
As a fogborn main, I find it confusing how Mx, inkfell, and vapor are more “skill based” than the fogborn😭
bro my fogborn main friend is raging cause of that
I mean Fogborn isnt too hard to play, although i do think MX is easier than him, Inkfell is the hardest monster to play imo. Vapor is good but if someone know what they are doing, your screwed
I am also fogborn main,i can say that mx is to high placed and inkfell,maybe? But vapor kinda deserves it,but my problem with fogborn is that he feels like he drains his stamina faster then players
@@Incredible_sinix my idea is that rosemary should be number 1 and vapor number 2 and fogborn should be number 3 and and samsonite 4/5
Fogborn has a relatively simple gameplan, however what makes him require skill is how easy it is to counter him forcing you to try new tactics
as a nilo main ty for putting him in 1st place :D
Never cook again 🗣🔥
@@internetchaos5003 what would you change?
@@MrMan01737 First of all, I am a diamond MX and i can safely disagree with the placement. He definitely deserves to go lower, because all his gameplay revolves around is using POW hop when chasing survivors, using charging demise when in hallways or tight spaces (or the rare scenario where the survivor is dumb enough to walk in a straight line) and occasionally getting pow hop kills when you can.
I am also a gold exe (close to diamond) and he deserves to be a bit higher on the list 100%. Going against skilled players as EXE is a total NIGHTMARE! especially when getting bad maps such as eclipse (ironic because eclipse is actually EXE's dimension lol), dungeon and forest. As an EXE, you absolutely HAVE to rely on your traps when going against loopers. If you didn't place a trap beforehand, the looper makes a mistake or you did a 1000 iq move, you are either screwed or will not have enough time to kill the rest of the survivors. You also have to manage your traps and be close to them because you want to be able to kill survivors when they get into your trap in the nick of time. EXE is also not a good chaser because not only is he slower than survivors, his too slow hitbox can be very frustrating at times and you're better off being close to them. EXE is a very skilled killer and requires knowledge of maps, strategies and EXE itself.
Fogborn should also go higher because you need players to look at you to begin with if you wanna get a guaranteed kill, and thats already a struggle because players can just simply not look at you. Chasing as fogborn without the foggy stare buff activated is not a good idea, unless you can cleverly ambush players with thunder warp. Other than that he's pretty weak if players just dont look at you, and dont even get me STARTED on loopers.
And finally, springtrap needs to go way lower. all his gameplay revolves around is just use ventilation error when chasing, use phantom step when out of stamina or getting a free hit, and throwing axes when in hallways. His gameplay is very repetitive and just like MX's gameplay. Just use some abilities when needed and you should be fine.
@@MrMan01737 CHANGE LITERALLY EVERYTHING even your roblox character taking up 80 percent of the screen
@@internetchaos5003 I agree with this, it’s kinda just hard to make the list considering a lot of the killers rely on the map. Thanks for the feedback man 👍
@veecee3480 it sounds more like you hate the video more than the list
As a PCX main lemme explain
Final act might be confusing but whenever he lands to send someone there the PCX player has an option if they wanna go there as well by pressing the final act ability while on cooldown so thats why he might randomly show up there also whenever someone is in the final act there is a clone of PCX that will go after the nearest player and the clone can also use "found you" so the PCX player can litterly go double trouble on that one survivor with the clone by itself
I feel that PCX and Forest King should lowkey swap spots, every single move in PCX's kit deals damage. At least with Forest King, you get a warning when the heads are close.
Edit: Some more stuff. How many times has PCX seen a nerf/rework since he dropped?
i think he's gotten like 5 or 6 reworks since he came out
Holy shit that much? 💀
yep 💀 first rework was with found you changing into an invis, second was adding the ability to fly during found you, third was final act adding obstacles, fourth rework was completely removing the stamina gain from jump and making into an ability that does damage, fifth was making it so that he no longer spawns in final act making it so that he spawns a clone while those in final act burn slowly to death, and the sixth one was making it so that the timer doesn't decrease when escaping final act
As a WYST main, he is a bit easy to use on certain maps. BUUUUT, for the most part, you're going to be going in loops because of corner campers on any other map. Also, WYST needs to go a bit higher since the discovery of shift tapping. Anyways, that was a great tierlist from a small creator!
What is shift tapping? Also ty man
its a
@@MrMan01737 Shift tapping is when you tap shift or w I forgot to move without making noise, basically making wyst even less skillful than he already is and even less fun to go against.
@Sentient_Mechanism I didn’t know that, thanks for letting me know
@@MrMan01737I believe BladeNinja said not to use shift tapping because it’s a bug, so I wouldn’t try it
I may be wrong tho
Made by MX main:
No, his main is forest King, he even said that
@Fluffy_Puffy-f8u who knows,maybe he got 2 mains.Still this tier list sucks
@@АдамБутаев-е9з i think you just say that because you hate his tier list or your an MX Main, who knows
@Fluffy_Puffy-f8u No i am vita mimic and fogborn main.And i don't really think vita mimic that easy.Most of places are wrong.Like,do you think niloticus the hardest monster?
@Fluffy_Puffy-f8u And yea i don't like his tierlist
10:02
hi rosemary main here
just wanted to say that we do exist
that's all
love the content
although i do think fogborn could've been lower, its pretty accurate
however in my personal opinion
Inkfell and Niloticus should swap places
Nilo is in my opinion one of the easiest monsters to server wipe with as he can easily kill most players even without the use of godly leap depending on how close you start the chase
whereas inkfell, requires all of his abilities to even have a chance at server wiping, since you could still win with nilo without using one of your abilities, the same cannot be said for inkfell as all of his abilities are crucial if u want to server wipe.
I kill the entire server with Inkfell very easily, I don't know how so many people find Inkfell difficult to use or bad when everything about it is good, the damage, the hitbox, the stamina and the skills, only the speed is bad which is not a problem since the skills make players slower than you, just place portals in good places, use the 3rd skill that I forgot the name in corridors or for locomotion, and never use the 2nd skill that I forgot the name unless there are a lot of survivors in the same place because when you use it some portals can come out and this makes it very difficult for you to have to go back and place the portals again, in my opinion it is easier to kill the entire server without using the 2nd skill than to kill using the 2nd skill
@ true however he still needs more skill than nilo in my opinion as whenever i use nilo its just a free win since he is so good. Although i love inkfell and im about to get gold with him, i still think he needs 1 or 2 small buffs
And i really do mean Small buffs
For example boosting his speed from 16 ti 16.5-17 (keeping him the slowest monster in the game but making it easier to move around the map and whatnot)
And also slightly buff devils dive
Prolly with just a lower cooldown and nothing else
I love inkfell tho
He is my main
Although i still think he needs more skill than Nilo and a small buffs
???
Inkwell is NOT faster than survivors even with debuff,survivors still have 0.1 more speed than inkfell,by the time survivors reach 30 stamina and their debuff probably disappeared already,making it much easier to just regenerate stamina and continue to outrun inkfell
Also inkfells portal needs to increase time
Tbh i rarely see anyone use rosemary at silver or above so its good to know that theres a small minority who actually enjoy her kit and use it properly
Hey, for me, i don't think anybody that is viewing this video should stop playing a character coz "no skill" that's like pyros in tf2, play that character if you want and that you think is fun and if someone says "no skill" answer them with the lowtiergod monologue!
a skill nilo player can destroy a server unless if some random either camps their entire gameplay or hide somewhere that nilo cant find unless if he find every corner
Yea, but if the map is bad it’s finna be harder
As a level 70 inkfell im honestly surprised he was so high up, I was expecting to see exe higher then him and while typing this making me realize us trap killers are either gifted the most free win ever or doing everything we can to get like half the people
inkfell is super fun, like I ABSOLUTELY LOVE PLAYING HIM!!! I love the fact that you need strategy to win and that devil's dive just... never hits, so you gotta use it at the perfect moment :P
he takes a lot of skill but we all know that when you find a good inkfell... it's over
my brother, wyst may be unfair but compared to survivors that ACTUALLY know how to loop and outrun him makes him hella skilled, as a wyst main myself you would not believe the amount of times ive gotten looped with him
Whats your record of being looped? Mine is 3 minutes on eclipse hill.
@gavinliermann Uhm... That could've been me. Sorry, didn't have anywhere else to go...
Unless its pillars, WYST on Pillars has to be THE BEST monster + map combination in terms of win rate. I have WYST level 40 and have never lost a single round on Pillars.
2:53 in my opinion I would say WYST is like the second worst monster in the game. Loopers can easily go around this man 😭😭😭
As a Nilo main
I appreciate you for telling how hard to play as him
Rosemary really depends on the map tbh
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it
W + Sightless Essence + m1 + Demonic Shriek + m1 + m1 -> Kill -> Rinse Repeat
@LzeniX mfw demonic shriek doens't get to the player 😭
@@dataexpunged6023it does. You get stamina from using the ability while chasing unless this comment was before the rework.
As a MX main,I think it's good placed,tho it could be 9#,I mean yea,you need to be a good player equilibrating stamina and habilities.
And yea, it's not fast enough.
But if the survivors are doing missions,they are distracted,perfect moment for a POW Hop.
Yep,you can still kill survivors chasing them,but as you said,low stamina is a problem.
As a Springtrap main myself, I would say he is very tactical, and his abilities are very situational in a good way. He was one of the worst monsters after Ventilation rework and post axe throw. Now I can say he's like top 5 skill-based monsters in the game.
Other than that, there isn't really anything I disagree with besides one thing. I think PCX after his "final" rework takes skill. PCX is not a "Pick-up and play" monster. You have to lock in to get a server wipe. His stamina is not very good, and you have to land some moves to get stamina back. High risk, high reward type stuff. Yes, it can do good damage to you but for those who buy med-kit before the round starts, you are gonna survive and waste the PCX's time. To me he's a low skill floor, high skill ceiling monster. He may be an annoying monster but he's only just that with a skilled player behind the wheel.
I would love to hear your thoughts on the matter. Love your videos btw!
I'm a spring main and I have to say I completely agree with you the only reason for me is because of late game which he is very bad due to loopers and stamina issues besides that for me he will be top 7 because with his new buff server wiping is not that hard.
As a wyst main, I can confirm he can be no skill. Something I do find skilled is where and when to use gobble bombs and frenzy. You (can) be skilled with him if you actually use gobble bomb well, but when I see others use him, they just spam frenzy and run on people to get a free kill which is pretty no skill.
I agree that AO ONI'S stamina is very strong but they definitely take a bit more than you think, they suffer a lot from the timer since if someone notices you from afar you have no methods of getting close unless you have disguise on, which prevents you from using Oni vision. Their main issue is that their only good way to approach players is disguise since they are so loud otherwise but they can't use their player tracking ability while in disguise and good players can usually spot you from a mile away if you aren't careful due to you having default animations and only being able to use the flashlight. Their melee hitbox is also fairly short and can be juked if you time it wrong. Making them very punishing to use (unless your lobby is new in which case it's basically free but that applies to all monsters)
MY first character was Springtrap, bc I love FNaF.
I would get like 3 kills as him.
I also got Pixelated skin for him even though, I was bad at his character.
I use EXE now :D
I have over 100 hours on Pillar chase 2 and i’ve literally never used springtrap once 😭
@@SamynotSammy As of right now, I have John Fogborn and WYST
Why forest king is considered as unskiled!? Damage is not that big, hitbox is VERY small. I player him a lot, but I can't say that he's op... maybe it's just me, but for me forest king is one of most skilled, cuz you have to have good aim to shot facade. And his heads are not that hard to dodge.
Good video tho, I'm glad that you consider pcx unskiled, it's so true
forest king is literally a top 4 monster
idk, hitbox is bit big, and usually u can hit players with 25 attack, you have to do 4 attacks, which takes pretty long time. And you have to aim good with blitz
Forest king’s ability to be unskilled comes from that fact you can bone break people from across the map. With the introduction of more interactive tasks means that players will stay still for a LOT longer than normal, pair that with the fact TFK basically has infinite wall hacks and an infinite range attack and it makes him pretty busted. Its not that hard to aim either unless you’re on mobile.
few notes:
PCX's final act no longer adds up to the timer anymore
WYST is one of the monsters that REALLY struggle against the last few survivors that know what they are doing and can outloop WYST
WDYM EXE IS A "WASHED OUT BALDI"-
Pcx also has an Endlag in his found you ability which makes survivor can run a bit while Pcx stuck there 1 sec then can run
What a coincidence that you put MX and EXE next to each other 😂
Also I totally agree with Forest King and PCX, or just all of them, ESPECIALLY Nilo since I’ve been playing him way more often
No way fogborn is 11# for me.. fogborn is WAY more because 1.his stamina is running out SO FAST
2.After using thunder wap you can't attack or sprint which gives players 2 seconds to run and if it's closed map its even more skilled
3.if you are chasing someone its based if they are look at you because they will run instead of looking at you (this is nore harder if it's closed map)
4.even if you are in open map and you did foggy stare while you are chasing someone other player will look at you and while you are in foggy stare buff and going towards player who looked at you from a like mile away your buff will end
As a Niloticus main I stan this skill cap placement.💪🗿
PcX is harder to play than it seems. Your stamina nerfs you BAD. If you know how to manage your stamina and dodge "i found you" you have half of what you need to escape him. The another thing that you need is to lose Sonic. If you lose them, they gain 2 options, either wait for i found you and keep chasing you, therefore losing time. Or, going for someone else.
Small thing, Mimic's footsteps are not muted when Elder Ascension is active, they're just very, VERY quiet, same with his idle sounds.
However, pretty good list! You make a lot of points that I've made in my prior experience.
I just realized that nowdays all killers are fareley easy to play cuz noloticus has really good stats for his speed.
Nilo main here, I 100% agree with his placement. You only get 3 portals, if you know what your doing you can easily out stam him, he struggles on open maps, and he does no damage if the survivor isn't irradiated, I have him at gold btw.
The little talking drawing is so cute on god-
Most niloticus players i go up against spam godly leap one player for half the match I know this by all the niloticus players that won't stop meat riding one ability + springtrap needs to switch his spot cuz he's op when he's chasing you and use the blind/speedboost ability and it's annoying to run away from because 90% of the chase is gonna be heavy breathing and pitch black screens
As a MX main, i approve of your ranking, very well explained and summarized.
Keep it up and God bless ya. ❤
As a monster who takes no skill I'll take it
it showcases my strength 😤💪
ao oni is like top 5 most skilled killers, if you cant manage to surprise the survivors with the shapeshift ability you will not catch them period
As a Diamond Nilo, I did not him expect to be #1 on this list, he does require skill but after a while, you can just server wipe with ease.
2:20 if you press final act while it's on cooldown, you can teleport to the final act zone by the ring.
Though it might as well be useless since the humans have basically infinite stamina and is MUCH faster than you in there so if anything, staying in there will actively harm you more than help you (unless you so happen to use final act on the last 2 survivors)
Lets go!!! My boy springtrap is number 5!
Thats not really a good thing. This is a tier list of how difficult they are to use.
2:30 if u click on the domain while its on cd (i mean that after u caught someone with it) ur gonna spawn in the domain exactly near the circle 🤑🤑
as gold EXE main i don't feel comfortable whatsoever putting exe THAT low. His speed and stamina stats are pretty bad, making his chases almost impossible to catch up to against competent players and as mentioned in the video, his traps ARE destroyable. The only actual way to kill competent players are to predict where players WILL run prolong the chase TOWARDS the trap, forcing the players to either run though the trap or through you.
other than that beautiful video
as another gold EXE main, I agree
it’s least skilled to most skilled
Alright, I know I’m a MX hater. AND I STILL AM! If I made a tier list, he would be placed no-skill because, even though he has fast stamina drain, he is basically the same speed as the players and he will basically ride you till he gets the kill. 10 second cooldown for pow hop? He won’t stop chasing you. Once you are found YOURE DONE
to be honest, you are the first person who also know that mx is not really a skilled character, the reason of people playing mostly him is because they love playing as the most op mosnter, remember when inkfell was busted? yeah, literally everyone forgot about mx and started playing as him, but after nerfs they all got scared to play as him and went back to mx
I play Rosemary and Baldi the most so here are my strategies, I know they may not be good but I'm just saying.
Rosemary:
I often use shriek whenever chasing survivors to get them lower health rather then gaining more stamina
I don't use sightless essence that much tbh, I just think it's not that good.
Overall, she's my favorite monster to use.
Baldi:
I often use the tape and I usually manage to atleast catch one survivor, Not much else for me to talk about Baldi but he's a pretty fun monster to use.
End of yapping session.
6:21 the infinite "stamina" literally does nothing, if you hold down shift his speed doesnt change at all, so he basically has 0 stamina
As A Gold Vapor Main, I think this he's like super OP when you get the hang of it. So basically you use Spider Skull, Follow it when it goes to a player, Wait, Use Demonic Shift And Get A Free Kill😅
what if they can one punch the damn spider?
As a nilo main my self. is true
This killer is very complicated is very hard to me to server wipe but I have fun with him dough
Mx not being dead last is crazy
As a wyst player you may say wyst is unfair for survivors but as soon as they camp and loop around the map then your kinda screwed, Ive actually haven’t had to deal with a player like this in forever so maybe they fixed this problem or I just got lucky
I play Fuwatti for the Goofy at first, now it just become my main 😅
If you get Fnaf 3 map as Baldi,Uncle Samsonite,Niloticus,Inkfell and Zombie you can get an easier win
Dont forget TFK, Vapor, and EXE.
the whole list is fine but nilo at 1? if he focuses onto you, even without his abilities you are dead, theres nothing you can do, he outspeeds you, and if you hide he will eventualy find you anyway
Nilo belongs in 1st ngl. As a nilo main he requires a lot of skill Becasue he already has bad stamina and his damage is trash. You need to hit a survivor 5 time in order to kill them and by the time you reach them you stamina is gone. His stamina drains fast and a survivor can out run him. If you get grabbed tho by the godly leap you can still escape from nilo. Another thing is that facing him is kinda easy just avoid his puddles and you can hear him from a mile away Becasue his steps are so loud anyone can hear them.
@malikjohnson2603 Fair, i get that he needs radiation to keep track of survivors and his stamina drain IS bad, but his speed makes up to it. He has some flaws, like most monsters, but i don't think he belongs at 1.
@ I respect it
As a dimond baldi and TFK these are some mostly good placements BUT 2 things baldi has a problem with slops so bad infact that playing him on drainage makes him THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME cause if someone drops into the middle section in chase baldi has to go all the way to the bottem of the hill befor dropping down cause with his movement he FOR SOME REASON flouts over the hole going to the other side yea it helps withcatching people camping the other side of the whole but in chase it sucks.
And for the second thing i have like 3 friends that have dimond MX and i have almost gold and all of us agree that he is right above TFK not baldi
Can tell you prob only play tfk because most of these are wrong no offense while I agree some of those were fair, nilo in first and mx so high up is just insane
Edit: I have silvers and up for all monsters so this is not biased
I pray that this makes people think "hmm maybe I should pick a harder to play character to flex how good I am" instead of going with PCx like everyone else
I have seen entire servers full of PCx'es and I'm over here with the fatass plumber demon
dude, vapor INSTANT BONE BREAKS, AND has a big hitbox. Yeah so skillful..
1:45 pretty fair to me , you get mauled to death but also you get free toes. (Not in a freaky way)
ao oni's placement is so horrible, as a level 71 ao oni main, if there's a single conpetent survivor in the lobby the difficulty increases ten fold, not to mention he breathes very loudly and his footsteps are also loud too, also his shapeshifting ability cant replicate the animation pack of the survivor he's mimicking, so its a major flaw that makes him need way more skill, also i dont know about you guys but his hitbox is horrible, sometimes im literally touching someone with my body and the hit doesnt register, so yea he actually needs skill
Aint no way bro put nilo over inkfell 💀
Inkfell is basically nilo but harder to use and more rewarding (seeing the entire right side of your screen get filled by exp notifs gives so much dopamine)
Why is MX so high. Do you play with your eyes closed? There is no world where MX is more skilled than ao oni, fogborn, uncle Samsonite.
Exactly, all you do with MX is follow someone and use POW hop till you get close enough to hit them.
very cool guy in lobbies 10/10
Atleast MX isn’t a instant bone break LIKE THAT DUMB VAPOR I SWEAR I CANT WITH THE INSTANT BONE BREAK + THE SKELETONS
as a fellow nilo main, this made me happy
As a Mobile player, nah FK might be one of the hardest monsters to play as on pc2 (also like ev small hibox character like fogborn and oh wait pcx is second on the list k nvm)
how do you only have 646 subs? great video
Exe is low skill
You can just spam traps in doors and his hitboxes are very large
more people should play fogborn, prolly one of the funnest monsters to use just because how easy it is to secure kills, especially if you just thunder warp straight onto someone, 75% of the time theres like no counterplay to doing it
Competent players are Fogborns worst nightmare, i’ve seen for myself that thunder warping directly onto them does little to nothing since the end lag is long enough for them to react in time and get far enough away.
Yeah it's easy when you hit people from 50 metres but in your screen your antop of him that is how I die against fogborn 90% of the time
Monsters when people have ears and knowledge: 💀
As a TFK main myself (she also my main too except I have at lvl 100 also im actually shocked you don’t have a diamond yet) before blade decided to buff her after her 4 consecutive nerfs people were able to counter her ability in 1 of 2 ways
Lurking facade - Dodge the thing while trying to find where the monster is it cuz from what I’ve seen, most people know about the location reveal thing but are not aware of how to deal with the monster at a disadvantage (most people just give up or leave the game from what I have personally seen)
Glitching Blitz - mostly used if she knows where you are and just mainly for sub-damage (as it cannot kill) in most cases try to avoid it (it used to have windup but no longer does, However it does have end lag so try not to be so predictable in movement)
But otherwise since people rarely use TFK (luckily cuz I be scared going against a fellow TFK main as well) she becomes one of those “every time you die is a learning experience”
If people got any more questions feel free to ask, I can’t exactly speak for every TFK user (especially when again, there are so little of us) but I personally play her as a assassin/ambusher role (if it makes sense)
Me personally Pillar chase is about horror, and I like to take advantage of the fact that I can “jump” on people with surprise using the TFK like a jump-scare sorta? Hoping other fellow TFK users see this and tell me how they use her cuz I’m actually curious about it now
As a TFK main as well (Lvl 44 and my highest lvl monster) i’d argue personally that she’s slowly becoming more overpowered despite not receiving buffs for the simple reason of blade incorporating more interactive tasks in every map, making players stand still for longer and making TFK be able to land glitching blitz much easier. I’d say his most impressive trait is how he can actually handle competent players much better than most.
As a level 47 mx yeah you need alot skill for when use his abilitys and stamina but i just use Denise if I'm low at stamina
EXE and MX has more skill than Baldi?
Yeah i really disagree with that one, Baldi takes way more skill than these 2 and especially if you get eclipse map then you are cooked
@Ogamer320 then dont play him on eclipse
@@Salgamesishere Yeah and i learned from my mistake of playing this character on that specific map so whenver i see eclipse i rush to change to Ao Oni
@Ogamer320 good job mate
Rosemary 3rd place? I take pride in that :D
Micmic Can be good and absolutely terrible at the same time
3:15 wyst bro
Fogborns foggy stare takes a lot of skill from him unless you have good players in the lobby or it is the last survivour so he deserves this spot
PCX Users trying not to use the 2017x skin challenge (spoiler, it’s impossible)
i can somehow agree with all of these btw, but i may disagree with nilo being 1st
this is like 90% accuracy
is vapor really that skillfull I mean there a reason he is a starter monster when I first play the game as a mosnter I server wipe without even knowing what I was doing
Even though he is the slowest the skull minion things make it WAY more annoying since he immediatly knows your location and can teleport to you basically guranteeing a free kill. Its very useful when you wanna catch a survivor off guard by cornering them with a skull minion. Also the damage is insane even for the slowest monster. So i would agree that he isnt very skillful because anyone thats half competent is gonna almost full server wipe easily.
I put him so high up on the list not because he's skillful, but I think he takes more skill than other killers. A lot of the killers if not almost all of them are really easy to play.
As a (nearly) Silver EXE, Silver PCX, Silver Forest King & GOLD MX, I have a few hot takes:
*EXE* - EXE is definitely _NOT_ like Baldi in any shape or form in how he's used. If anything, EXE should be compared to Inkfell. Inkfell, upon release, was compared to being just a better version of EXE. Speaking after all the Inkfell nerfs, EXE is now the better Inkfell. Plus, he now has 20 sprint speed. On a trapper. That is *_INSANE._*
*PCX* - In my opinion, PCX should definitely be the bottom of the list, right at 16th. The thing is with him right now, is, despite him supposedly being balanced. It is _STILL_ *_PCX._*
Every lobby a PCX is in, the lobby gets wiped. In fact, he is at such an OP position right now, most PCX players (myself included) don't even need to use Final Act. He has 3 abilities. And PCX players only need to use TWO OF THEM. That is NUTS. If there was any way to "balance" PCX, Found You should honestly be an entirely different ability. Such as a spindash or something.
And has most have correctly pointed out with most PCX players, if you are hit once by a PCX, they will continue to go for you right up until you die.
*Forest King* - Forest King definitely shouldn't be last. But she's close. Probably a 13th.
I wouldn't even say it's because of Lurking Facade, although it definitely helps. It's mainly Glitching Blitz. It's such an easy ability to hit, even despite it's speed being nerfed. The only thing that saves most players from Forest King is that you can out-run her, plus you get a warning when a Lurking Facade head locks onto you.
*MX* - His placement is quite fair. Admittedly, most of his gameplay revolves around is using POW hop when chasing survivors, using charging demise when in hallways or tight spaces (or the rare scenario where the survivor is dumb enough to walk in a straight line) and occasionally getting pow hop kills when possible, but if playing against competent players who know how to avoid POW Hop, all you are doing as an MX is either flanking, or relying on the survivor completely blundering. MX having to use his abilities to catch up to players is a very correct statement
And I also don't see how people have a problem with his 70 damage. Remember readers, that when this dude came out, his damage was *_85 + A BONE BREAK IN ONE SHOT._* Being strong like that is just sorta the whole point of him. He is at such a balanced point right now that saying he has such less skill is basically implying you don't know how to survive him.
If you know what you're doing + can manage your stamina, MX is piss easy to survive. If not, you are absolutely cooked.
Bro you so real for pcx,like i hate playing against him like i just do my task and then here he is to jump me with his clone,FUCKING RODE-
Nah Inkfell should be #1 tbh and this is coming from an inkfell main. Niloticus doesnt take too much skill bc a useless ability (His radiation puddle) doesnt do anything if the survivors have 2 braincells actively working. All u gotta do with him is godly and m1 and repeat.
make a video is worth spending your coins in the player upgrade or monsters to buy
as a level 72 vita mimic main, i can agree with you on this one😔
as a Nilo main with 42 levels on him, can confirm I lack the skill to use him well. the only maps I can sometimes do decent on is Forest and Mansion, and that's assuming there's no high level looping trolls to break my ankles 30 times in a chase
TFK being the least skilled mosnter is the game is an L take. Hes quite hard to use. you cant just randomly use ablities, you gotta cut off survivors, aim blitz well, ect.
PCX is a complete skill issue, no offense. Your just bad, his kit IS quite hard and not that complex
Swap this whole list around 😭💔
as someone who has almost every character gold Heres wat I would change/my opinion
Forest king: Putting him in last is diabolical not bc hes skilled bc compared to mx nilo btw ill get to nilo in a sec I js think hes a bit harder than the others especially mx
NILO: as someone who mained nilo for a long time he is really easy due to his forgiving hitbox and the fact u can constantly increase the time by spamming mist and getting someone to half health then diving them to go to the next person hes very easy and I would recommend him to beginners
PCX: Im in the minority who mains him and while u think hes no skill his found u in chase if rly punishable same thing with jump if they miss found u or jump they dont have enough stam to catch up and u conserve stam until they use ablilty again were if u keep juking which is rly ez bc u can see him in found u and his jump has a rly small hitbox
Saying Ao Oni is easy to play as is just like saying Pcx is hard to play as. He has the worst hit box(I really hate it when I play as him and hated it when I first time played him, but it seems better for his classic skin). He is VERY slow. His sprint speed is the same as Vita Mimic, but even that dude seems to be faster. And also "Hard to run away from"? I should be in a hugging distance to kill players, and when I die to other Oni players, that's because I always waste my stamina even if there's no one around(I'm saying all of that as a level 100 Oni).
I disagree with Vapor HIGHLY on the grounds of his cycle is spawn skeleton, teleport to it, catch up, repeat. Fuwatti can catch up with EASE due to that damn rush
as a level 27 vapor main, he is not that hard bro
its rather rare to find someone who knows how to counter vapor perfectly, and even if they do, if they slip up once in chase, 9 times outta 10 they will die due to his insta bone break