I didn't know you did shuai jiao! But I shouldn't be surprised due to your enthusiasm for Bannerman martial arts! Your 甩 really reminds me of the 金雞獨立勢 from Qi Jiguang's "Essentials of the Fist"
Sweet! I just learned about this martial art and it looks cool! I’m just a simple wrestling man myself and anything grappling intrigues me. I guess I also do boxing; but I started with wrestling.
Wai definitely focuses more on lengthening out the opponent, and shuai popping out the leg - results in basically the same posture and imbalance but a different feeling in execution... 🤔😁👍
What if I told you Jeng Hsing Ping (Zheng Xingping) who is direct student of Chang had another name for this? And it is SAME name at least one branch if Beijing Jiao uses? AND that when you pull arm across body as you do it there is even another name? Spent last several years translating about 50 different texts 😂
SC as in "Shuai Chiao"? There is no-jacket Shuaijiao. Most styles of Shuaijiao do no-jacket as warm up, and there is one local style in Shanxi that is 100% focused on no-jacket.
@@the.wandering.warrior Yes Shaui chiao. For years I've read about the differences between SC and judo. One being that SC doesn't need a jacket/gi like judo. And two being that SC throws are intended to land opponents specifically on thier head which is why it make break falls different or difficult. I was more interested in seeing these types of throws where one is thrown on head. Do you know of any examples of this?
@@the.wandering.warriorlol of course you wouldn't want to harm your partners. And perhaps not an attacker if you could give him a less harmful lesson. Clearly there is a combat version and a sport version. I wouldn't want to punch my partners in the nose either but we know it is possible. My interest is to see the claims of no gi and these types of throws that are said to be different than Judo. The SC sport version does not reflect this.
@@Leonidas3888 well, no jacket I'll probably show more of in the future... I actually quite enjoy it Head smashing, I'd like to but I'd have to be very careful about presentation.... I have some ideas but we'll see, no promises
And this is why I love Chinese martial arts. Stances and forms give you the basics.
Nice collaboration! Ill be releasing the next episode of the Shuai Jiao history series hopefully in the next couple of weeks.
Looking forward to it!
在北京，天津和保定，崴是一個最為重要的跤絆，訓練包括崴樁和崴樁引申的基本功，崴指稍微轉腳並把腳往後貼地退。
你做的動作，估計是常東昇去臺灣後編制的保定二十四式中的一式，甩在北京話和天津話，指從下到上拋出，你做的動作就有這個甩的手法。
我不認為崴和甩是同一個跤絆，因為重點不同，實際上是兩個接近的跤絆。
類似於腦切子和斜打，大外刈，大外掛，不是同一跤絆，而是接近的跤絆。
Grazie Emanuele, grazie Vincent 🙏🏽
Grazie per il supporto Maestro 🙏
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I didn't know you did shuai jiao! But I shouldn't be surprised due to your enthusiasm for Bannerman martial arts! Your 甩 really reminds me of the 金雞獨立勢 from Qi Jiguang's "Essentials of the Fist"
Yup, began formally training it in 2020. 金雞獨立勢 huh? I'll have to take a look at the old general's manual... 🤔
Sweet! I just learned about this martial art and it looks cool! I’m just a simple wrestling man myself and anything grappling intrigues me. I guess I also do boxing; but I started with wrestling.
You got the essens of "why" - thanks for sharing and keep up the good work.
Fantastic vid! So similar yet so distinct, great work guys.
Thank you 🙏
能夠更多了解中式摔角，感謝分享👍
Wai didn't focus on the leg smash just using the leg as a fulcrum. Shuai really used the leg to displace the person's balance.
Wai definitely focuses more on lengthening out the opponent, and shuai popping out the leg - results in basically the same posture and imbalance but a different feeling in execution... 🤔😁👍
Amazing video, guys!!! By the way, does anyone know the name of the background music? Thanks!!
Another nice informative video. Well done.
I'm glad you made this video.
Even if the arts are similar, it's always good to look at the vernacular and ask "Wai?'
Absolutely... and you know I hate puns 😑😒🤣
@@the.wandering.warrior Don’t worry man, I got you.
I’ll come up with all the dad jokes for you.
Wai so serious?
Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge
Thank you for watching!
Thanks 🙏
Love it.
I'll try to incorporate this in my no gi game
Good, do it and if you get it on camera and post it, give me a shoutout or tag me on Instagram 🙏😁 wishing you success
fantastic!
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What if I told you Jeng Hsing Ping (Zheng Xingping) who is direct student of Chang had another name for this? And it is SAME name at least one branch if Beijing Jiao uses? AND that when you pull arm across body as you do it there is even another name?
Spent last several years translating about 50 different texts 😂
where can i train kuai jiao in taiwan?
我也很崇拜常老前辈，我的师爷高宝山就是河北保定人，祖传八卦掌，所以高师爷的跤把非常好，善使绝技坡脚，后又和北方跤技结合，在奉天回回营跤场很是了得。借此机会，借问哪位知晓高宝山老前辈的事项？如能介绍，不胜感激。
我不認識高寶山師父，他是誰？
@@the.wandering.warrior 高宝山师父，年纪比常东升老师还要大20岁左右，是河北保定人，家族祖传八卦掌，跤技绝伦。
伪满时期在奉天回回营开设第一商场跤场，和徐俊清等人是半师半友，同时又是小西关伪满警察所所长，再往后，遭遇不公平待遇，病死于东北农村。
高宝山的坡脚绝技，现在世上已未有人再现，我曾看过常东升前辈的坡脚视频，和高宝山的很相似。
我们前辈的好东西，我们一定要珍惜，并且要传下去。
名利只是粪土，传统技艺无价之宝。
Where do you teach in Taiwan?
I'm in Pingtung Taiwan but willing to travel
Nice video 👍
You kinda look like Dmah from Martial Club. 😮
Really?
@@the.wandering.warrior Yeah he does Martial Arts too coincidentally. I’ve been a fan of them for awhile. Look up Daniel Mah reel 2015 you can see. ☺️
您的语言表达很好,但是实话实说，您的基本功还有加强，爆发力要加强，动作要到位，进的要深一些才行，实战是不接受好看的东西，只承认实用的东西。我不是什么摔跤老前辈，但我已经近七十岁，是老奉天（沈阳）传下来的。北方跤法很讲究横力。
練武是一個過程👍
Is there no gi SC?
SC as in "Shuai Chiao"? There is no-jacket Shuaijiao. Most styles of Shuaijiao do no-jacket as warm up, and there is one local style in Shanxi that is 100% focused on no-jacket.
@@the.wandering.warrior Yes Shaui chiao. For years I've read about the differences between SC and judo. One being that SC doesn't need a jacket/gi like judo. And two being that SC throws are intended to land opponents specifically on thier head which is why it make break falls different or difficult.
I was more interested in seeing these types of throws where one is thrown on head. Do you know of any examples of this?
@@Leonidas3888 throwing on the head? Yes that's easy. But it's also a good way to lose training partners... 🤷🏻♂️
@@the.wandering.warriorlol of course you wouldn't want to harm your partners. And perhaps not an attacker if you could give him a less harmful lesson. Clearly there is a combat version and a sport version. I wouldn't want to punch my partners in the nose either but we know it is possible.
My interest is to see the claims of no gi and these types of throws that are said to be different than Judo. The SC sport version does not reflect this.
@@Leonidas3888 well, no jacket I'll probably show more of in the future... I actually quite enjoy it
Head smashing, I'd like to but I'd have to be very careful about presentation.... I have some ideas but we'll see, no promises
cool