"His shoulders globed like a full sail strung" can also show the distance between them both as the father becomes like a ship, getting further and further away. That can also be seen as the distance between whats strong and whats left (his father was strong: "globed", he was weak "stumbled"). 'Globed' can also be seen as the father carrying the world on his shoulders, showing strength and responsibility. Perhaps it can be seen as the change in the Father-Son relationship as they grow older and grow further apart due to occupations and dreams.
'All I ever did was follow in his broad shadow'. The noun 'shadow' conveys how the speaker often felt eclipsed by their father's presence. In order to escape this the speaker had to ultimately pay the price of their relationship, hence the distance felt between the two characters at the end of the poem.
Yes, and broad suggesting the shadow is large and he cant escape the shadow cast over him that his father has spread, and how he feels trapped and his attempts to escape this 'eclipse' is futile because his escape is unreachable!
Thank you so much for this playlist, I managed to get 29/30 on the poetry comparison question in my mock! Again, thank you so much! Really appreciate all you do.
thanks for all of these videos, i forgot to do my homework (an essay to compare follower and climbing my grandfather) due tomorrow and this vid + the CMG video are currently saving me from detention lmao
You could interpret the way Seamus has followed so far in his father's footsteps only to break away in writing. it shows changing dreams and expectations people are given by parents and such-- Heaney wasn't as good as his father at ploughing and farm work yet he excels in writing. It is new territory which his father lacks expertise in showing the reversal in roles.
You could say that the speaker following in "his broad shadow" reflects his lack of identity. The speaker could be the "shadow" of the father, merley a darkened area that cannot seperate from the one making a shadow: his father. The way a shadow cannot part with the object could imply the strong, inseperable bonds between the father and son, but there could be a darker meaning. Just like a flower needs light to grow, the son needs opportunities and freedom to grow into his own person- it's a necessity; the father could be the shadow blocking the 'light' the son needs (maybe to limit his future- forcing his into a farmer just like him?) and as a result becomes just as helpless as a flower in a 'shadow'.
@@user-qg4td6rg5x if you’re talking to me, I didn’t do too well, this poem didn’t come up unfortunately, I got a 6 in literature but an 8 in language so I’m ok with that
@@user-qg4td6rg5x and if your talking to me, i got a 9 in mocks but an 8 for gcse. My year cut out poetry cos of covid, sadly it was the topic i did best in
How do Follower and Before You Were Mine relate in a brief bulletin? *Parental *Bonds *Admiration *Desire and Longing *Aging *Memory And what else??????
oh my god why couldn't you have done more Heaney, I have my English lit exam tomorrow in Northern Ireland and half the poems we have to learn are Heaney but you hadn't done any of them. I'm so dead for this exam 😖😖😖 but that's not really your fault, I haven't revised. I was just hoping for some videos from at least someone for last minute revision 😂
The line "to close one eye, stiffen my arm" can also symbolise the use of a telescope in olden day naval navigation. The eye closed so that the view is clear and the arm stiff so that the view is stable which further emphasises the imagery of sailing.
It almost demonstrates differences throughout the eras like a timeline as we’re taken through these past farming processes. I kind of believe the ending represents Heaney’s actual father perhaps taking new interest in his academic teaching role. Starting off young looking up to old but ending old looking up to young; like a nosy father hehe. Thanks for the video
could the sail metaphor also be used to say a sail changes course just like how life does? you could also reflect that onto how the farming industry is changing course too
Awesome video! I'm quite unsure though whether to compare Follower with Climbing my Grandfather or Before you were mine. I have noticed in your comparing poetry video you said it would compare well with Climbing my grandfather but in this video you said Before you were mine? I know they could both compare, but will one would you suggest is better to analyse with and what could you say about them?
Although in the final three stanzas, the 1st and 3rd lines are indeed half rhymes. But how do you account for the fact that the 2nd and 4th lines are full rhymes in these stanzas? Simply the placement of full and half rhymes as switched. Does that change the meaning considering that in the first three stanzas about the father, there is still half rhyme?
The enjanbment can also be an attempt at allowing for the reader to conceptualise what Heaney may have been intending to portray - how they may distance but are still tethered to one another.
You know the imagery of ships and the ocean? Could you say that there is a semantic field of the ocean and ships or is there not enough for it to be a semantic field? It’s my literature paper tomorrow and this video was such a good help. Thanks!
there's nothing to say about form, but the mark scheme says we need form and structure anf language. so... then what do we do?? plz reply im so confused
This is what dictionary.com says for full rhyme: rhyme in which the stressed vowels and all following consonants and vowels are identical, but the consonants preceding the rhyming vowels are different, as in chain, brain; soul, pole.
It's a scholastic/pedantic argument, but nonetheless: "Though homophones and homonyms satisfy the first condition for rhyming-that is, that the stressed vowel sound is the same-they do not satisfy the second: that the preceding consonant be different. As stated above, in a perfect [full, Ed.] rhyme the last stressed vowel and all following sounds are identical in both words. If the sound preceding the stressed vowel is also identical, the rhyme is sometimes considered to be inferior and not a perfect rhyme after all. An example of such a super-rhyme or "more than perfect rhyme" is the identical rhyme, in which not only the vowels but also the onsets of the rhyming syllables are identical, as in gun and begun. Punning rhymes, such as bare and bear are also identical rhymes. The rhyme may extend even farther back than the last stressed vowel. If it extends all the way to the beginning of the line, so that there are two lines that sound identical, it is called a holorhyme ("For I scream/For ice cream")." [Wikipedia] Although it is irrelevant in this case, the distinction between the two concepts becomes more important to point out lazy, "grammatical" rhymes or puns. Also I've seen many different definitions of half-rhyme - it doesn't seem to be agreed upon in literature, so it might be beneficial for your students to give their own definition before they use it in an analysis.
Thanks for your comment - it certainly makes sense. I've not heard of 'identical rhyme' before. The interesting thing with 'round' and 'ground' is that the preceding consonants DO rhyme, where there ARE preceding consonants. So the 'r' rhymes, but of course nothing before thats rhymes in the word 'round', because there IS nothing before that in the word itself.
A point on form would be actual poetic forms. E.g. Sonnet, Dramatic Monologue, Ballad, Lyric Poem. And something like a rhyme scheme is something that makes up the form. Basically, the structure of the poem makes up the form. For example; An AB AB CD CD EF EF GG is what makes up a sonnet.
I think you have gone to deep. However you need to bring the overall tone of your video up. You have stripped the poem down very well and I fount it very excitable.
No problem. Keep in mind that GCSE students need to analyse the poet’s use of language, structure and form. There are also 6 marks awarded for analysis of context.
the examples that you are including are very poor on the whole. For example the ship metaphor there is no connection and TBH you are making it all up. Some of therm were useful but others were poor
"His shoulders globed like a full sail strung" can also show the distance between them both as the father becomes like a ship, getting further and further away. That can also be seen as the distance between whats strong and whats left (his father was strong: "globed", he was weak "stumbled"). 'Globed' can also be seen as the father carrying the world on his shoulders, showing strength and responsibility. Perhaps it can be seen as the change in the Father-Son relationship as they grow older and grow further apart due to occupations and dreams.
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mrbruff thank you 😊
mrbruff you can add it to ya new vid now
I bet that mrbruff just gets his income by a massive influx of viewers in November and April May June as students start to prepare
Actually I get very little of my income from TH-cam. That's why I have to sell ebooks and books too
Yeah also love your work on all of the poetry and allowing us to succeed in our English GCSEs even though I personally don’t deserve it
It's not a problem!
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Literally amazing, though some of what he’s saying is word for word from the CGP book
'All I ever did was follow in his broad shadow'. The noun 'shadow' conveys how the speaker often felt eclipsed by their father's presence. In order to escape this the speaker had to ultimately pay the price of their relationship, hence the distance felt between the two characters at the end of the poem.
Yes, and broad suggesting the shadow is large and he cant escape the shadow cast over him that his father has spread, and how he feels trapped and his attempts to escape this 'eclipse' is futile because his escape is unreachable!
what do you mean by had to pay the price of their relationship?
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I hope that the Flying Spaghetti Monster always blesses you with perfectly cooked pasta. R'amen.
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Thank you so much for this playlist, I managed to get 29/30 on the poetry comparison question in my mock! Again, thank you so much! Really appreciate all you do.
Katie A what did you get on your actual gcses??
what did you get on your GCSEs?
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thanks for all of these videos, i forgot to do my homework (an essay to compare follower and climbing my grandfather) due tomorrow and this vid + the CMG video are currently saving me from detention lmao
You could interpret the way Seamus has followed so far in his father's footsteps only to break away in writing. it shows changing dreams and expectations people are given by parents and such-- Heaney wasn't as good as his father at ploughing and farm work yet he excels in writing. It is new territory which his father lacks expertise in showing the reversal in roles.
You could say that the speaker following in "his broad shadow" reflects his lack of identity. The speaker could be the "shadow" of the father, merley a darkened area that cannot seperate from the one making a shadow: his father. The way a shadow cannot part with the object could imply the strong, inseperable bonds between the father and son, but there could be a darker meaning.
Just like a flower needs light to grow, the son needs opportunities and freedom to grow into his own person- it's a necessity; the father could be the shadow blocking the 'light' the son needs (maybe to limit his future- forcing his into a farmer just like him?) and as a result becomes just as helpless as a flower in a 'shadow'.
this is super helpful and a great structure, might use this word for word for my mocks ahah! tysm
this is amazing wow what did you end up getting
@@user-qg4td6rg5x if you’re talking to me, I didn’t do too well, this poem didn’t come up unfortunately, I got a 6 in literature but an 8 in language so I’m ok with that
@@user-qg4td6rg5x and if your talking to me, i got a 9 in mocks but an 8 for gcse. My year cut out poetry cos of covid, sadly it was the topic i did best in
@@ameliawolf omg well done they cut out jane eyre for me this year thank god
How do Follower and Before You Were Mine relate in a brief bulletin?
*Parental
*Bonds
*Admiration
*Desire and Longing
*Aging
*Memory
And what else??????
oh my god why couldn't you have done more Heaney, I have my English lit exam tomorrow in Northern Ireland and half the poems we have to learn are Heaney but you hadn't done any of them. I'm so dead for this exam 😖😖😖 but that's not really your fault, I haven't revised. I was just hoping for some videos from at least someone for last minute revision 😂
dont woorrry il pray for u !
You'll be ok
this is aimed at the aqa spec for english gcse so...hope you did well and have moved on
how did you do all those years ago?
The line "to close one eye, stiffen my arm" can also symbolise the use of a telescope in olden day naval navigation. The eye closed so that the view is clear and the arm stiff so that the view is stable which further emphasises the imagery of sailing.
That’s a great idea!
Hello, I am Seamus Heaney. I did not mean a lot of these things that you seemed to interpret.
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+Evelyn Boansi great!
It almost demonstrates differences throughout the eras like a timeline as we’re taken through these past farming processes. I kind of believe the ending represents Heaney’s actual father perhaps taking new interest in his academic teaching role. Starting off young looking up to old but ending old looking up to young; like a nosy father hehe. Thanks for the video
thank you so much ur videos are amazing! Got an A* in my mock test because of these videos and i was expected around a B.
Tovi Ward nice
could the sail metaphor also be used to say a sail changes course just like how life does? you could also reflect that onto how the farming industry is changing course too
Oh my gosh, this is actually some really deep analysis thank you!
This has been so so helpful - thank you so much! I love Seamus Heaney poetry :) Will be watching all your videos!
+Katherine Schutte great!
Awesome video! I'm quite unsure though whether to compare Follower with Climbing my Grandfather or Before you were mine. I have noticed in your comparing poetry video you said it would compare well with Climbing my grandfather but in this video you said Before you were mine? I know they could both compare, but will one would you suggest is better to analyse with and what could you say about them?
Consider comparing it with Simon Armitage's 'Mother, any distance' and the familial relationships they represent :D
Although in the final three stanzas, the 1st and 3rd lines are indeed half rhymes. But how do you account for the fact that the 2nd and 4th lines are full rhymes in these stanzas? Simply the placement of full and half rhymes as switched. Does that change the meaning considering that in the first three stanzas about the father, there is still half rhyme?
Thank you so much, this is really helpful. Have you done an analysis of Cecil Day Lewis' 'Walking Away'? If not I'd really appreciate that!
+Izzie Pyle not yet. New poetry video every Saturday so please subscribe
Thanks for this. I have used this video as basis for my tutees to further explore poems.
+Babes 1968 great!
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Could you possibly make a video on Farmers bride by charlotte mew. As all your videos are really helping me with my poetry
I plan to!
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Mr Bruff, could you please do analysis videos on the Deep and Dangerous collection?
The enjanbment can also be an attempt at allowing for the reader to conceptualise what Heaney may have been intending to portray - how they may distance but are still tethered to one another.
Will we get marked down for not writing about form, even if there aren't any form points to write about?
+Imaan 1234 no
You know the imagery of ships and the ocean? Could you say that there is a semantic field of the ocean and ships or is there not enough for it to be a semantic field? It’s my literature paper tomorrow and this video was such a good help. Thanks!
we were taught this a nautical imagery
Thanks again from 10Y2
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Nice video mr buff , on Wednesday I got an exam . I have to compare this poem to another poem called "Digging" . Do you have any tips ?
Is it just me or is "artistic lisence" (6:50) just a fancy phrase for complete making something up
Another sailing image could be "And back into the land"?
Thankyou this helped me write my homework essay very helpful 😊📚
No problem!
Could we say it is written in Quatrains?
The continuity in the amount of line sin each stanza could work with the idea of repetition and routine in his life.
“I wanted to grow up and plough” ;)
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Ooh and also the poem has semantic field of farming
Wow this is really great but can you do some poems from the power and conflict cluster please thank you
+rosey half of them are done already: check the playlists
mrbruff I've checked them out already lol
When talking about context near the start the photo on the right is of a potato field
Is the full stop of 'An expert.' and example of caesura.
yes as the punctuation is not at the END of a line.
there's nothing to say about form, but the mark scheme says we need form and structure anf language. so... then what do we do??
plz reply im so confused
i have a revision guide and the form talks about the amount of stanzas, the iambic tetrameter and the rhyme scheme :)
This ain't on the ebook, how do I get it on the ebook?
+Taaha Khalifa it never will be as it's in copyright
mrbruff never? But would the last dutchess ebook get updated with this book
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate your analysis!:)
+Craig Malcom thank you!
thank you this is so helpful and interesting too!
happy to help
How do you spell the word used in Latin for the turn at the end of the line in the field?
Enjambment,? Visited?
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round/ground are identity rhymes, not perfect/full rhymes
This is what dictionary.com says for full rhyme: rhyme in which the stressed vowels and all following consonants and vowels are identical, but the consonants preceding the rhyming vowels are different, as in chain, brain; soul, pole.
It's a scholastic/pedantic argument, but nonetheless: "Though homophones and homonyms satisfy the first condition for rhyming-that is, that the stressed vowel sound is the same-they do not satisfy the second: that the preceding consonant be different. As stated above, in a perfect [full, Ed.] rhyme the last stressed vowel and all following sounds are identical in both words. If the sound preceding the stressed vowel is also identical, the rhyme is sometimes considered to be inferior and not a perfect rhyme after all. An example of such a super-rhyme or "more than perfect rhyme" is the identical rhyme, in which not only the vowels but also the onsets of the rhyming syllables are identical, as in gun and begun. Punning rhymes, such as bare and bear are also identical rhymes. The rhyme may extend even farther back than the last stressed vowel. If it extends all the way to the beginning of the line, so that there are two lines that sound identical, it is called a holorhyme ("For I scream/For ice cream")." [Wikipedia] Although it is irrelevant in this case, the distinction between the two concepts becomes more important to point out lazy, "grammatical" rhymes or puns. Also I've seen many different definitions of half-rhyme - it doesn't seem to be agreed upon in literature, so it might be beneficial for your students to give their own definition before they use it in an analysis.
Thanks for your comment - it certainly makes sense. I've not heard of 'identical rhyme' before. The interesting thing with 'round' and 'ground' is that the preceding consonants DO rhyme, where there ARE preceding consonants. So the 'r' rhymes, but of course nothing before thats rhymes in the word 'round', because there IS nothing before that in the word itself.
Makes sense, I just wanted to check my understanding. Cheers for the content.
Why does the rhyme scheme come underneath structure? Is it not a form point?
A point on form would be actual poetic forms. E.g. Sonnet, Dramatic Monologue, Ballad, Lyric Poem. And something like a rhyme scheme is something that makes up the form. Basically, the structure of the poem makes up the form. For example; An AB AB CD CD EF EF GG is what makes up a sonnet.
Furrow and plough don't rhyme how is this A B
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@@lilbigarab4201 judging by your lack of punctuation I doubt you have much experience with teachers
Very helpful! Thank you
please anyone, how do you spell versos or whatever the word was for the turn in latin
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I think you have gone to deep. However you need to bring the overall tone of your video up. You have stripped the poem down very well and I fount it very excitable.
can you make some videos on animal farm
Can you do a video comparing Heaney and hardy poems?
I think your analysis is amazing
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Some interpretations were useful. But some were questionable.
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Can someone link me to that interview where Heaney says "the idea of doing work that doesn't bring sweat to the brow seems a little paradoxical"
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Typical academic describing common sense as some abstract concept.........None the wiser in regard Heaney's objective...
Feel free to explain your take on the poem.
@@mrbruff .........Give me a few hours as I wasn't familiar with poem and was looking it up for my son's homework......
No problem. Keep in mind that GCSE students need to analyse the poet’s use of language, structure and form. There are also 6 marks awarded for analysis of context.
@@mrbruff ......Thank you for advice ......much appreciated and my judgemental initial comment has proved to be far from truth......apologies.
No problem :)
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I feel that this video has been sort of helpful but you make no sense when you say this poem is like riding a poem.
He said writing lol
the examples that you are including are very poor on the whole. For example the ship metaphor there is no connection and TBH you are making it all up. Some of therm were useful but others were poor
Don't rate it at all mate
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