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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Does Adam Savage have a point of view on repurposing materials in builds? Has he ever considered blacksmithing? Which change to his shop is Adam's favorite? Does Adam have a favorite career comeback? In this live stream excerpt Adam answers these questions from Andrew Montgomery, God of Mischief, dannydaniel138 and Thomas Esson. What is YOUR favorite second act?
Palimpsest (noun): Something reused or altered but still bearing visible traces of its earlier form.
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turning old laptop screens into new monitors is incredible.
Jimmy Carter, from US president to his work with Habitat for Humanity
Got to be Robert Downey Jr. Went from a has been actor to spawning the marvel universe. All because he knocked the roll of Tony Stark out of the park. Probably going to be the biggest come back actor of our lifetime.
@@kaptainkrunch6179 *Role. I see that mistake far too many times...
Your workshop is a physical palimpsest of yr youtube life.😊
Love that a fan can get up and ask a super niche question and Adam has an answer locked and loaded.
A term I learned from Brennan Lee Mulligan
It's nice to see I am not alone in this.
Gamechanger is my sheeit
FANTASY HIGH FRESHMAN YEAR!!!!
Why aren't I surprised that's who you learned it from? 🙂
(❤ Brennan)
I learned it from the book Contact by Carl Sagan
Another fascinating thing about palimpsests is that the original writing or printing can be revealed by scanning the document using different wavelengths of light. So they can provide multiple windows into the past, not just one!
Fun fact: the Italian word for palimpsest, "palinsesto" is still used today for tv guides or more specifically the list of tv programmes for a given day, I guess the idea is that it changes every day, so you erase it and start anew
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That is actually interesting. I suppose the tv is a series of images that get erased and rewritten.
Interesting. Thanks for sharing!
My uncle is a car and truck repairman in a rural small town, so a lot of the vehicles he works on are big agricultural things (harvesters and such) that have been in fields. For years, he’s had two sculptures (it used to be just one, but got too big) made of stuff he pulled out of flat tires and welded together: forks, scraps of sheet metal, nails, pieces of rebar, you name it. The name of this ever-growing opus is “Do You Recognize Your Flat?” and it’s on display in his shop.
Other thing to keep in mind on pallets: Pallets are (or are supposed to be) treated to prevent the pallet wood from harboring bugs/fungi/diseases. Usually, this is by heat treatment (and it leaves you with wood that is very, very dry, which is fine). But there's also a process that sometimes gets used that basically pressure-treats the wood with pesticides; you probably should treat this wood much like pressure treated lumber. The pallets get marked (there's an international standard for indicating these things).
My favorite palimpsests are ancient wax tablet trays. People used them like notebooks and in the wood behind the wax are traces of what they wrote too deeply.
Fascinating as always. Did you know that, up until 2017, all UK Acts of Parliament were still printed on vellum, and the oldest extant law in the archives dates back to the end of the 15th century? All Parliamentary Acts passed since 2015 are now printed on archival paper, but still have vellum front and back covers as a nod to the old tradition.
Fun fact, it is sometimes possible to read the original text from a palimpsest page. I don't know much about it beyond knowing it can be done, but I like the idea of recovering forgotten knowledge being rediscovered.
look up "archimedes palimpsest calculus". you're allowed to get angry.
Sherlock Holmes does it in "The Golden Pince-Nez", that's was my first experience of the term....
Just yesterday, I turned my old solid wood dining room table into a bar island in my basement. Everything has its purpose, but purpose is a variable.
I love the idea that purpose is variable, both for projects like that, and in general
"It's really hard to transcend the object" I want to make a plaque with that quote. Found objects art has been a lifelong passion of mine that I think of it as I've just kept that childhood curiosity of building and creating things. I'm now a classically trained painter, but still things like taking apart old clocks and rebuild them I some new and different way is something I love. My wife encourages me to start showing my work but that's one of those things I've never looked at as something to display. Transcend the object...
Adam has such a depth of interests and it's amazing how well versed he is on this huge variety of topics. He must be a blast to just visit with.
Although new to your channel , Adam , I love coming here because your answers to viewers' questions have a habit of launching into
bold , new journeys of their own ! I seem to leave with at least a part of my mind blown and the remainder exploring unexpected new frontiers !!! Thank you !!!
I don't understand how Jody Foster didn't even get a nomination for "Contact" and I'm convinced had she been nominated she would have won. The part where she's on the journey in the seat is a masterclass in acting in itself.
Now that I think about it, Contact was possibly robbed of a Best Picture nomination. Contact is a brilliant hard SF film.
Jodie should get a special award for being the most wonderful, talented, beautiful, intelligent woman to appear in Hollywood since Katherine Hepburn, whose crown she is singularly suited to take over...
@@terrylong8894 💯! I couldn't believe it none of the recognition it richly deserved.
The only other place I have heard the word plaimpsest is Dimension 20's Fantasy High campaign. It is a fun weird word.
I love and *appreciate* that Adam looks at us not simply as viewers like many channels do, but as _"a close acquaintance he's never met"_ 😊
(or never talked to, for that matter heh)
I’m an archaeologist and almost every site we deal with is a palimpsest of human activities over time
Thank you for inviting us into your space Adam.
I have to say 2 of the shows I watched faithfully with our son. Myth Busters and Dirty Jobs. You guys were amazing thank you.
Adam calling us his neighbors. 🥰
Weird Al says that every album he's ever made after his first one is a comeback album.
The Rheostatics first album was called Greatest Hits.
"Palletsest" it was just right there for you!!
Independent of you but I had the same idea!
Just as an additional PSA: Metal is a lot better at hiding the problems, but it's harder to work with structurally because the problems (such as porosity or lack of fusion) can hide themselves. As opposed to woodworking where you'll always see a crack or rot, you could miss these problems, maybe grind it off, and have your trailer fall apart on the highway because the frame isn't even properly fused together. It's a non-problem for props and small projects though as you do.
Also unrelated, but listening you talk is so interesting no matter what the subject. It's like everything you talk about you just love to talk about and you're slowly becoming a part of my daily routine because of it.
Adam is simply one of the most intellectual and creative minds out there.
When you become a woodworker, you also become an offcut collector. Projects made from offcuts are a wonderful challenge because you can introduce constraints to a project that can be bragged about for years. Cheers.
Same with sewing but oh boy is that challenging... It's always a shame to throw away the offcuts. I've been looking for a way to use them, maybe making a resin blank will be good enough or shredding them into pillow stuffing... But that still seems like a waste
"The Swerve" by Steven Greenblatt is an awesome book I read last year about the story of the 'lost' poem by Lucretius, 'on the nature of things' from around 1 BC which was likely the first to posit particle-based physics, atheism and all kinds of interesting and way "dangerous" ideas. How it was lost for centuries, discovered by a book lover 600 years ago, and the rediscovery of which may have been one of the sparks for the enlightenment and influenced some of the great thinkers. Amazing book if you're into palimpsests. (And "career comebacks", for that matter, Lucretius was largely forgotten for 14 centuries.)
The difference between wood and metal is explainable with one word -- malleability. Thanks for the enlightenment on palimpsest.
I love playing a bunch of these in a row, like an Adam Savage podcast.
Be cautious with used pallets. Who knows what was shipped on then. I once worked at a manufacturing facility that had literal tons of liquid and powder chemicals shipped in on pallets and everything leaks. Be safe out there.
The art that speaks to my heart and the one that I love doing the most is found art sculpture. Thank you for this advice!! It spoke to me and was very useful
Hey Adam, love everything about your channel, I don't always have time to watch your builds. I never miss you talking, love the stories, and just how you answer the questions you answer
I love your childlike joy and energy to an idea or discovery. THAT is what drew me to mythbusters and it’s what draws me to TESTED. Never lose it.
The biggest win for me is when I have materials that get a third life. I am happy with a second time around, but sometimes I get to the third use, which makes me so happy. Most of my projects are around my house (which I built myself), so usually I'm making different things out of wood, which lends itself so nicely to re-purposing. Separate note: I am so jealous of Adam's workshop... it would be so fun to work in that space!
Our sun is a third generation star, so our entire solar system is palimpsest. We all reuse matter in one form or another. Nothing is waste, it just needs to get to someone who can use it, or repurpose it.
I don't think Adam really answered Danny Daniel's question about favorite and least favorite part of the remodeled shop. The meta aspect is interesting, and maybe the parasocial involvement is his favorite thing at a higher level, but I'm pretty sure Danny was looking for an answer along the lines of "the amount of additional space and lack of clutter is my favorite thing, but I'm not happy with the location of the lathe" or something to that effect.
Are you new to the channel? Adam is 100% a guy who goes off-track and sometimes doesn't directly answer a question. And that's what we're here for.
No I'm not new to the channel. He's usually pretty good at double-checking the question and circling back if necessary before moving on, often times with a "but that wasn't your question." This is the first time I had to go back myself, thinking I'd missed or misinterpreted something. Not a big deal sure, just thought I'd point it out.
"The amalgamation of them transcends each of their individual identities". You just described why The Beatles were extraordinary.
This is one time I feel I can weigh in with Adam - your searching of terms to "Transcend an object" reminds me of how I look at cooking, one of my favorite hobbies. It's all about making something Greater than the Sum of its Parts. Taking things that shouldn't go together and making them into something that does go together at the end. It's a small beauty in all of life and every maker's hobby. Just like life, when something becomes greater than the sum of its parts it truly speaks to us. The ability to describe these kinds of things is always tough, but thanks a lot for how good you are at doing it, Adam.
Definitely a word I’m adding to my arsenal wow
I’d consider myself a found object artist, as a sewist! Most of my material is secondhand and I let the finding guide and inspire the piece it turns into. I love when you can still see memories of what that fabric used to be.
"Errant bits of nails" almost cost me an eye. I was trimming the edge of a very old dresser board with a miter saw, and there was an unseen part of a square nail in the end. It ricocheted of the back and went straight for my eye, only to be deflected by my goggles. The next day my Sargent saw the wound on my cheek, asked what happened, and nominated me for the weekly "safety talk"... So yeah, be careful. It was "just one cut".
I live in Pittsburgh and my Dad worked in a steel fabrication mill. Over 30 years he did most jobs. Burner, Welder, Helper, layout and Milling Machine. His hobby was carpentry. He did a lot of projects, different sheds, bird coups, shelving units and GOOD kitchen cabinetry. I once asked how can he just pick up these skills in a few tries. He explained that steel fabrication is just like building things from wood. It is carpentry in steel but cutting/making the beans iron workers assemble when put up a big building. But fixing mistake in steel is a lot easer.
After Star Trek, William Shatner was in a teleplay called Andersonville(1970; directed by George C Scott). It's a history of the Andersonville POW camp in the southern United States during the Civil War. Very well done all around!
PALIMPSEST is the title of one of my very favorite podcasts. it is an antology of gothic horror, very beutiful, very melancholyc horror. ad each season bleed a little bit on the next, very well-written stuff.
Title is giving Fantasy High.
Say hi, Intrepid heroes.
@@Blasted2OblivionBlimey
See you at Basrar's!
This has been the Identify Spell.
Are you my dad?
Anyone else just focusing on the disco ball? Lol
Drives me nuts
I too love repurposing materials and recycling materials. I built a shed from utility pole crossarms and scrap lumber. I just recently finished a workbench built from plywood left over from house building, and drawers built from lumber reclaimed from packing crates. You have to be extra patient because you arent working with good straight clear lumber, but it can be done. My next project will be recycling three wall units into a rolling workbench for the garage. I am using an old industrial cart made from steel as the base. I think the laminated particle board from the wall units, along with the drawers will be easy to work with. As a last thought, i built a desk for my "covid office" from a solid maple work bench that was being thrown away. the desk drawers are actual desk drawer cabinets that a friend never used in building her house.
our move from our old house is pretty much complete, and I had to leave so much scrap pieces of wood and metal behind. I just don't have the space for it, and to be honest, in going through it to get things together to move, I realized that some of the projects they had come from were 30+ years ago. But it was so strange looking through everything and remembering what every single piece came from. It was a very hard process. I had lived there for 33 of the last 40 years. There were so many memories. I tried giving away as much as I could. But to be honest, most probably wasn't worth keeping, but having had grandparents who lived through the great depression, it was always instilled in me to save things because "you never know". And I've been in a part of my life for quite some time now where it's not about saving money, but the "just buy it if you need it" seems wrong when, I have it, why not keep it for when I need it. I'd like to know what habits die hard for you. You're only 1-2 years older than I am, I wonder if it's a generational thing, or I'm just weird! (ok, I am, but that's another story!)
"Steel is more forgiving than wood." That was my revelation early on as a fabricator! ❤
Praising Night Country is wild...
Love to see you and Alec Steel collaborate!
I LOVE PALIMPSEST especially in context of cities
In art school I had a teacher that talked about using more abstract things as materials - using space as a material or using time as a material for example. With found objects that have pre-existing cultural references you have the opportunity to use that baggage as a material. In many of my pieces I specifically choose objects that have a nostalgic feel for me so in a real sense I am trying to use nostalgia as a material. Of course not every viewer will have the same relationships to those objects so that's also something worthy of consideration. When I have a piece that is not working it's usually because the cultural baggage of some of the objects is clashing or interfering or I haven't considered or ignored some or all of it's references.
Have to agree with the words about wood and metal, my dad was a carpenter so grew up around wood and woodworking, it was only decades later that I started working with metal, particularly aluminium and mild steel, and it is WAY more forgiving than wood
My introduction to the word palimpsest was archaeological, describing a site with artefacts and features being partially replaced by the artefacts and features of subsequent events (building burned down, new foundation dug, flood erosion, new post holes, burials, plowing, utility trench cut through, etc). It is applied to buildings, as well, as it is modified to suit new purposes. I'm sure the previous uses of the Cave have left their marks on it, as Adam's own modifications have.
Protest the Hero released an album called “Palimpsest”. Phenomenal band and an incredible album.
Lego Bionicle had a really interesting concept in its deeper lore: a character who wore a "mask of psychometry," which gave her the power to read the memories within physical objects. She could use this power to uncover critical information by say, finding broken pieces of armor from a battlefield. I always found this idea really inspired, because it has what I think any really good magic power should - an ounce of reality to it. It takes a concept that is kind of real - the stories that physical objects tell us - and paints it as the magic power that it really is. There was some really cool stuff in that franchise, especially for something just made to sell colorful constructable toys.
I love these videos, thank you Adam
My favorite Protest The Hero album.
We use the word palimpsest a lot in writing studies specifically when talking about adaptation or even works inspired by other works - every adaptation is a palimpsest of the works before it.
“Nell” cemented Jodie Foster as one of the ALL TIME greats for me. So many great performances from her, but Nell is acting on a level that I’ve seen very VERY few accomplish… performances coming immediately to mind would be Tatiana Maslany (“Orphan Black”), Benicio del Toro (“The Usual Suspects”), and Leonardo DiCaprio (“What’s Eating Gilbert Grape”)
Hello Adam thank you for playing a positive and informative fun part of my childhood as I experimented with many elements.
yo kitbashing minis is just being a palimpsest wizard! I love that idea
This is a great song title for me. I frequently will write, unwrite and rewrite a couple times before I have an idea that speaks to me.
If you find yourself in Oakland, the Transmission Gallery is showing the work of a friend of mine named Jud Smith..
"The House of Miraculous Recovery"
August 1st to September 14th.
The reception is Saturday August 17th 1-4pm. Hope to see you there!
It's fascinating to see how a parasocial relationships are seen from both sides; we collectively must have a collective personality in the same way we have a version of yours Adam, thank you for that small insight
Palimpsest by Protest the Hero -- is one of my favorite Albums of the last couple of years, came out in 2020. If anyone's into Progressive Metal, you should check it out. :)
they did this with panels for painting to. I always thought these images that are somewhere underneath are like ghosts haunting the pictures. You see them appear in things like infrared imaging or x-rays of historic artworks.
6:30 Hank Green calls the relationship a creator has to their supporters a "sarapocial relationship." It's a neat way to point out how different the dynamics of the parasocial relationship can be.
Transcending the obect(s) reminds me of functional fixedness and that classic experiment about sticking a candle to a wall.
4:34 - what? You actually managed to break an anvil? I want that story!
I once read about how great an engineering marvel is the Spruce Goose being built out of wood because no two pieces of wood - even from the same tree - have exactly the same structural qualities, so two structural elements from either side of the plane might have slight physical differences to achieve the same structural function. Steel may be more homogeneous and interchangeable.
Before my vision started to go, I was interested in and experimenting with metal spinning, primarily aluminum to start with and then brass. Have you ever done that before and you do realize with the proper tools you can do it on your lathe.
I learned the term palimpsest it a history of mathematics lecture because of the palimpsest of Archimedes.
Essentially it was a collection of Greek mathematics treatises that was overwritten with something like a book of prayers during the Middle Ages. In the 20th century it was rediscovered and some of the mathematical works inside them had been lost to time, like a treatise describing a method Greek mathematicians used to calculate areas.
If you look at pictures you can see that they just wrote something else on top of the existing work except they turned the sheets 90°
I love De Quincey's "palimpsest of the mind"!
Danish Sculptor making huge trolls mostly out of up cycled pallets: Thomas Dambo. We have 6 here in PNW
Three actors spring to mind, all three reconstituted by Quentin Tarantino; the first being John Travolta in Pulp Fiction; the second (and third) being both Pam Grier and Robert Forster in Jackie Brown.
So thought provoking . Love all the comments here about palimpsests too.
I also loved how the mirror ball is twinkling in the background (top right) throughout. Every time it’s used - it’s repurposed at a meta level in the new scene ? I’m curious what the mirror ball gets used for by yourself - or is it just a really nice object to have?
On the subject of found object sculpture: in the field where I work, type design, there’s a commonly-cited phrase that “a typeface is a beautiful collection of letters, not a collection of beautiful letters.”
I’ve since found that to be a pretty useful way of approaching many other situations - you’re creating the sum of the parts; the parts themselves are less important than how they cohere.
"It feels like we're neighbors" Yes, that's it exactly 😊
Adam, Thanks for sharing this video! I think found object art is fun and that helps my creativity with new materials too. While not found object art, reuse art is the close second to it. I have found some awesome used materials and even stuff I could never afford new. Recently I have been practicing metalworking by using the foil packaging from my dogs frozen treats. I made this little robot inspired by the movie "*batteries not included". While just hurried together, he is very cute. I have people telling me I should do some stop motion with things. I am not against learning that as new skill. Have a great weekend!
Great video sir
We use that term in archaeology all the time.
Thought I was having a stroke when I saw that word.😂
I think you guys should recreate the experiment that you guys did with the myth that the dents in the golf ball make it go further, but instead make the dents on the car with the golf balls most likely creating more fuel efficiency
i have only heard palimpsest in the context of D&D. it refers to a gem that can be used to imprison someone. the size and rarity of the gem is proportional to the power of the imprisoned
Wow, videos from Dude Perfect, How Ridiculous AND Adam Savage all on the same weekend!! This weekend just keeps getting better and better!! 🙂
I know the word palimpsest because before I retired I was a Linux Instructor. Computer hard disks bear a similarity to palimpsests - you can write stuff onto them, erase it and rewrite them again and again till it wears out. So Linux used to have a disk management application called Palimpsest. I think it's been renamed as gnome-disks now though.
Love the video .
Great video and lots of cool information! Thank you! What’s the story with the soapstone sink? Link..?
Happy Saturday Tested family🛠🗜
The Palimpsests i have seen, were scraped or sanded and then turned 90°, so the new writing would be more readable. Because of that, it was sometimes possible to read the old text, too. With modern technology, it got a lot easier to read all the layers.
In Kingdom Come: Deliverance there is a quest where you're asked to provide a book to be reused like this. The game doesn't show the process, you just submit the book and get a reward, but still. A lot of historical goodness in that game.
“Keeping up with the Savage(s)” lol😂
I know from experience that steel fabricating allows for more errors, because I make a lot of them.
6:16 that is a really charming idea! We are digital neighbors in a digital age, I hope I’m a good neighbor 😅
Palimpsest is also a killer album by Canadian Band Protest the hero
I built my shed out of repurposed 32/1000 insulated roofing panels. Pressed steel with a polyester coating in anthracite on the outside and white on the inside, with a foam core.
Self-supporting and they cut just fine with a circular saw, then glue them together with sikaflex and add a few rivets
It's like building a gingerbread house.
Your hair looks great!
Hi adam, watch your show since I was a kid, I'm 28 now. Hope you're doing well. Seemed like the show was never going to end back then. I've always wanted to know how you guys as a team managed to work together if heads and ideas are clashing. Is there anyone that decides to take the lead or is it more of a unified vote on the decision that you guys would make for a project. Could use some advice in regards to working with my own friends in the field of imagery.
Apparently an old volume describing calculus method suffered palimpsest, possibly delaying our advancement of mathematics.