Is UNC’s 24-25 roster currently better than last year’s? | Cadeau, Davis, Trimble backcourt intact
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 พ.ค. 2024
- North Carolina is expected to add more pieces to its 2024-25 roster, but what about where things stand today? Is the team in its current form better than it was in 2023-24? The Tar Heels return Elliot Cadeau, RJ Davis, Seth Trimble, Jalen Washington, Jae’lyn Withers, and Zayden High. Do the additions of Ian Jackson, Drake Powell, Cade Tyson, and James Brown offset the losses of Armando Bacot, Cormac Ryan, Harrison Ingram, Paxson Wojcik, and James Okonkwo? The coaching staff stays intact for another and will certainly continue to grow, led by Hubert Davis in his 4th year.
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Both JWs and High plus Brown will work in the end. I like it.
If we enter the season thin in the front court it will be on the coaches to figure it out. When it's run what you brung, you'll have to craft a gameplan that accentuates your strengths and minimizes your weaknesses.
When RJ and Cormac Ryan was not in the game our offense felt real congested like barely spacing……And Withers don’t need to be starting his non shooting ass
Let those frontcourt guys play and gain much needed time. It'll be fine .
This offense is going to be lethal if Cadeau can bump his 3 point % to at least 30%. Very few defenders will be able to stay in front of him if they have to come out to guard him. It's going to open the offense up so much in my opinion
*Ron Howard Narrator Voice* "He won't."
@@halfwaydecent6842 why not? The easiest thing for anyone to learn in basketball is shooting, a ton of top prospects don’t shoot well coming into college. I think he’ll shot 36% and be impossible to guard
I REALLY THANK THEY COULD WIN MORE GAMES THAN THEY WON LAST YEAR IT ALL DEPENDS ON HD!!!!! This team is loaded like the team in 2022 the team u guys keep disrespecting. HD lost that team with the way he played them. ITs that simple. This team is very similar. He has to push them hard on the defensive end and push push push the ball. If he play RJ and Cadeau more than 30 min every game early he is going to lose Trimble and Jackson. If he forgets to give Drake and Withers minutes he will also lose them. He really needs to find some time for High also. He has to be very good with time management this year the season depends on it
@@johnbowser855 it never depends on just the coach, player have to do something, right? Jackson already said he is one and done, so it’s critical that happens, if not, gonna be hard to get more high level players. He was going to UK, and HD turned him.
The question of whether this team is better than last years team is irrelevant. We don’t need to play last year’s team! The question is are they good enough to win the championship against this year‘s competition? You could make a case that the 2016 team was better than 2017 but we all know what happened.
It could be . Patience. Hubert has got it the right way and reasons.
Let’s remember, the 2017 team won a natty after Bryce and Marcus left.
The only drawback is the size of Davis and Cadeau.
My own opinion. I think we have enough. Between JWash Jwit and Zayden High and Drake Powell. We need to develop these guys in our system instead of going out every year looking for hired guns. These guys will leave.
there's potential to be better I think. undoubtedly the back court is going to be better. should be a huge jump for Elliot and Seth. I would expect RJ to be as good as he was last year and then with the addition of in Drake and Cade, I don't see how this isn't the best backcourt in the country. still need to find one or two more pieces in the front Court. someone who is a really good rebounder defensive post player that can push people around . I feel like if we can add one or two pieces there it will be as good. if not, potentially better than last year's team. if we don't add to the front Court, I'm not sure if this team's ceiling could meet last year's. just for that reason alone. I think we need at least one more piece in the post
Ian, Elliot and Drake should be fun to watch
We're too use to Bacot. Let him go in your thoughts. We're North Carolina.
I'm looking forward for a great season Tar Heels.
The kid from Vanderbilt we're eyeing is legit!!
Yes
So were the other guys that we didn’t get
@@amiga4everandever so far UNC is the only team tryna get him for some reason so he’s most likely going to UNC.
@@JacobGeigel Cool, he does looks like a dude, I’m low key impressed with James Brown highlights, I know it’s hard to predict but he can stoke it and looks good inside, either way we need another big
@@amiga4everandever if you look up Ven Allen’s stats, he’s a pretty good player.
Our back court and guards should be better obviously. But bacot leaves a big hole along with Ingram, but if Washington makes a jump this season and Cade Tyson is as advertised well be just as good maybe better bc EC makes a sophomore jump
Besides a huge hole now in the front court, you have to remember the value that Ingram and Ryan brought from experience and especially the infectious "don't ef with us" energy. It's not always just talent. Also Cadeau needs to get his 3 point shooting % up Go Heels!!
Luden or Hawkins can make a difference. Hawk time hopefully. I'll take both. Who wants to be a HEEL.
These two have an amazing grasp of the obvious. Those that know, don't say and those that say, don't know.
Silly question, why would anyone think that. Did you forget how well Bacot played D, including picking up guards. Who’s going to get the rebounds that he and Ingram got.
This team has more depth at 1-3 for sure, but 4-5 is suspect. Let's go through it.
PG 2nd year Elliot will be be at worst as good, but very likely better than freshman Elliot was...so +1 for this year.
SG RJ Davis was an All American last year and while he is unlikely to regress his numbers will likely go down ...similar to how Armando was a better player last year (improved FT%, better Pick and roll, perimeter defense with reduced stats). So SG is a push.
SF This is where things get murky (do we play small ball or do we get another big?) Assuming Ian Jackson or Cade Tyson at the 3. Either will be more dynamic as scorers (Jackson likely SG/SF, Cade SF/small ball 4) Cormac was a better, engaged all around defender than I expected, and brought a fire, leadership and intangibles) I would say this would be slight upgrade this year but not as much as you might think advantage .5 this year
PF ???? Is it Cade Tyson/Drake Powell Small ball , is it J. Withers, Zayden High? Is it an NBA Draft dropout yet to be named? No matter how you slice it none of the current rostered players can match Harrison Ingram's overall utility. He could defend smalls and bigs, shoot 3's and was a great rebounder. The closest all-around talent is probably J. Withers and he doesn't have the motor or the basketball IQ that Harrison possessed. Advantage Last year
Center Jalen Washington (backup small ball J. Withers/ Zayden) I have high hopes for a stronger Jalen, making pick and pop 3's playing through contact at the 5. I think he could have a much more diverse offensive game than Armando. If, and it's a big If, Jalen bulks up in the off-season and puts it together he could be a superior offensive player....Visually he will be more impressive but in terms of efficiency it will be razor thin. Armando was a very efficient player.
Defensively, he could be a better shot blocker ...and that's about it . Jalen is going to get killed on high screen roll. He will either live in drop coverage or pick up fouls on a hard hedge, Hubert won't even let him switch cause it will be a disaster. Armando's defense and rebounding last year is not attainable for Jalen. Armando (outside of Billy Cunningham) is the best rebounder in UNC history. Armando was on the All-ACC defensive team last year. Jalen will win the highlight reel but not match Armando. Advantage Last year.
Bench; The overall bench is definitely deeper and while Hubert is evolving, he has yet to show a propensity for playing many players. That fact tempers the seemingly improved bench's effect on the betterment of the team.
So the long and short of it is this team is not better than last year's team. Unless they get a stud portal player at the 4/5, can make small ball work or get a combination of internal improvement from the Jalens and/ or Zayden High.
Play these guys or why bring them in . Drake Powell is already out second best on ball defender. I love Zayden High passion and toughness and Ian Jackson one on one scoring ability.
Unless they get a big man for rebounding and shot blocking who can spell Washington down there, the answer is no. I like the Tyson pickup and the new guys will be good but Harrison Ingram was a great rebounder and scorer. Ryan was the leader on the team, I don't see who is replacing those two guys - unless Tyson steps up and takes Ryan's spot. We are still suspect at guard with Davis and Cadeau because of their size. It showed up against a number of teams last year.
IF Washington improves as much over the summer as he did last year and I’ll say with Withers rebounding and energy I think we can be set, as always the key word is IF
Besides a huge hole now in the front court, you have to remember the value that Ingram and Ryan brought from experience and especially the infectious "don't ef with us" energy. It's not always just talent. So no, at this time they are not better.
Cade tyson is 100% better than Cormac because Cormac is extremely inconsistent when it comes to shooting, I will admit though cormac was Probally a little better on defense.
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Need a rebounder..... Facilitates the run ...run ...run
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Still under size back court and no size down low I’m going with no
Y'all still acting stupid what this approach of who should start and you always want midget basketball you can't start Tyson at the four you always want to get somebody on the floor that shouldn't be on there yet Jalen Withers needs to start at 4 and he should have been starting last year Elliot can't start in front of Ian Jackson he needs to come off the bench so we can match up with teams properly defense
Of course not...lost 20 rebounds and two shooters. Without 2 experienced bigs 6'10" 6'9" 245 260...we get mauled on the boards against top 20 power teams...especially with two 5'11" starting guards. Washington will have 3 fouls in 1st 15 minutes consistently. High a small thin forward...we gotta get a 24 year old 6'10" man!
UNC4L!
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Wdym? We have Cade Tyson and we’re most likely getting ven Allen Lubin.
Id say we need one impact front court player. I like the kid from Vandy but I am hoping for a stud dropping out of draft. At the end of the day it has to be a great chemistry fit and a guy that can run the floor well. We have enough other pieces that have earned playing time (jwash, jwit, zayden)
@@timothyjones9982 ven Allen Lubin is pretty good, he averages 11.6 points, averages 0.9 blocks, averages 6.3 rebounds, and only averages 22 minutes.
@@JacobGeigel I like him for sure I just think we need a bit more size instead or as well.
@@JacobGeigel I also think if we pick up too many pieces it sends a bad message to the unselfish players at UNC that have waited for their time and worked hard to earn more.
I think they are. Remember ! People questions Huberts coaching when we broughtvin Manek you questioned it. When we brought in Ryan and Ingram you questioned it. On Cbs it has UNC as a top 5 starting lin up. Ian Powell is not starting right out the gate . Ian plus Powell can play Guard all thexway to the forward spot. This team is more versatile on paper than last years team. Nobody thought tgat Ingram would have a 3, 4, 5 game last year. Nobody we all thought he wasnt thst good. Our bench is going to be lethal starting with trimble Powell. We just need a Big rebounder. Somebody who can set screens block shots. Powell can flat out play D . You are overrating Hubert Favis coaching.
Rn idk but if we get ven Allen or Coleman Hawkins ill think we’re better than last year.
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Not even close! People are underestimating the loss of Bacot. Not to mention CR and HI. The backcourt has 2 non shooters. Tyson is a liability on D. Unc will be good but nowhere near last year.
Cormac Ryan was extremely inconsistent and ven Allen lubin has stats very close to Harrison Ingram while averaging less minutes, for example, Harrison Ingram averages 12.1 Ppg, 0.4 blocks per game, 7.1 rebounds per game, and 31 minutes while ven Allen lubin averages 11.6 ppg, 0.9 blocks per game, 6.3 rebounds per game, and while only averaging 22 minutes.
Oh and ven Allen shoots 51% while Ingram shoots 48%.
Cade Tyson is one of the best off ball defenders in the portal lol
@@Happytarheel7 he definitely is not...
@@JacobGeigel So you'd rather have him over Ingram?
Hubert got it under control . We miss on some big men. Hubert and staff GM has a backup plan . 2019 team they very good didn’t have a true 5. Brooks at 6-9 was the 5. We will add a couple good pieces. UNC4L!
We did late in the season when Nasir started to come in his own
We have to many guards
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