LED Lights for Tropical Carnivorous Plants

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  • @sna4163
    @sna4163 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    thank you for keeping this video short and simple and answering everything we need to know!!!

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching.

  • @stanley3384
    @stanley3384 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    OH MY GOD, thank you so much for this video. Been waiting for something like this for years.

  • @215BlackMoses
    @215BlackMoses ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruh you just saved me lots of money. I was currently looking to buy some "grow lights" wrecking my brain. Then I came across your vid. And let me tell you it was a relief , because I was gonna try out the Mother brand grow light for $130. Which is bananas, I'm trying to setup a Nepenthes mini greenhouse.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad the video was helpful! Yes, we've had great results with the LED shop lights. They're very suitable for the average grower and for nursery like ours!

  • @leochulsongjr
    @leochulsongjr ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the video on the LED lights. Yes, I have never been fond of the pink lights for the reason you give. I use the Feit plant Grow lights. They have two led types, the pink ones and white. As you may know, light for us growers have two characteristics which we are made aware of. Quality- spectral makeup with respect to the wavelengths for optimum absorption by the chlorophyll- the pink ones emit in these wavelengths. Quantity/intensity- whites round out this very well and does remove the eyestrain. Each 2 ft fixtures are rated at 19W and can be daisy chained using the power cord to plug into the socket at the opposite end. Makes it easy to daisy chain on various shelves chosen on 2 ft lengths. Phone pix can still be color enhanced, but this has been a good solution for me. LED shop lights were not available at the time I sent these up.

  • @ScaryFear
    @ScaryFear ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Totally agree. I had some of those aweful pink lights a few years ago when they first came out. I trashed them all. Could you put links for amazon on the lights you use? I did a search but not sure if the ones you have are available anymore. I do like them.

  • @corvairfanatic7106
    @corvairfanatic7106 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Sean for the lighting update. Good job on the video. I was just talking to my wife about some lighting for my bogs. Greatly appreciated 👍

  • @christineedwards4865
    @christineedwards4865 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking forward to some grow light experiments. Have you used a PAR meter to experiment with light intensity? It would help with translating that intensity to different grow lights, because the light I'd like to use is pretty strong compared to these little shop lights.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for watching our video! We purposely avoided meters and technical jargons because we wanted the lighting concepts to be easy to understand and implement for first-time growers. If it gets too technical, many folks get discouraged learning about these plants. We strive for simplicity!

    • @christineedwards4865
      @christineedwards4865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SarraceniaNorthwest Fair enough. Are there any channels with more detailed technical information? I want to learn the science behind growing carnivorous plants, rather than just follow others' examples without understanding the plants' tolerance ranges. Beginner growers might get run off from too many details, but what about experienced growers that are trying to improve their skill? Considering how simple it is to find detailed growing information for cannabis, I'm disappointed that it's so difficult to find any similar information when it comes to carnivorous plants.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well, we're experienced growers, and we don't find it necessary to go into full details about LED lights. The reason for that is because we're always looking to simplify the growing technique. That has always been our MO, and we pass on the information to our customers. We have many customers who grow beautiful tropical carnivorous plants without the use of expensive lights. You can check out some of their photos on our website.
      www.growcarnivorousplants.com/nepenthes-care/
      Keep in mind that carnivorous plants are varied in growing conditions. There are outdoor perennials that grow in full sun with seasonal changes. Even with tropical plants, some carnivorous plants full sun. Some need partial sun. A few grow best in partial shade. This is why information from cannibis growers doesn't always translate to carnivorous plants.
      There's also a big difference between the goals of growing cannibis and tropical carnivorous plants. Cannibis growers are looking to maximize production of flowers and tweaking THC and CBD content. Carnivorous plant growers just want nice looking plants. (This is why we stopped using the so-called "grow lights" touted by cannibis growers. They were expensive and we didn't get the growth we wanted. We found shop lights to be more beneficial for our plants.)
      As a grower, it really comes down to knowing what you want your plants to look like and make appropriate changes to achieve the growth you want. There is no magic bullet or recipe to follow. It's an art more than a science. You can study plant physiology and learn how light intensity (and frequencies) affect photosynthesis and plant hormones. I've done that, and so has my one of my workers. He has a degree in horticulture. (I learned about plant physiology from my pre-med classes and studying on my own.) In the end, it comes down to our skills in observing our plants and modifying various factors to achieve the growth we want. Do we utilize our knowledge of plant physiology? Not really. The only time it comes into play is when there is something detrimental going on. For the most part, we're like many growers; we're looking to simplify our growing methods and reduce our expenses. So as experienced growers, we believe our information is useful for other experienced growers looking to simplify their growing method, even though the aim of our video is for beginners.
      I'm also not sure what you mean by "experienced growers who are looking to improve their skill." Which skill are you referring to and what are you wanting to achieve? Our nursery tends to push the envelope on a plant tolerances, more so than other nurseries. We will purposely grow plants in strong light, high temperatures, low temperatures, and other conditions just to see what would happen. Based on that, we come up with general guidelines that would be safe to follow. So, I'm not sure if you want to learn why a particular technique works (or doesn't work) versus how to achieve a specific result. Those would be very different goals. Our videos are always about the latter.
      If you want to explore the science of plant growing, consider enrolling in horticultural classes at a community college. You can also purchase textbooks on plant physiology to study on your own. There are some very good ones out there from very good universities. Some schools also have very good horticultural programs, such as Oregon State University. Maybe you can be the one who takes on the challenge to do full experiments with LED lights on various carnivorous plants. Carnivorous plants is a relatively new field when compared to cannibis, orchids, and many other types of plants.

    • @christineedwards4865
      @christineedwards4865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SarraceniaNorthwest Thank you for the extremely detailed response. It being a relatively unexplored field explains a lot. I don't doubt your experience with growing carnivorous plants, it seems to me like this channel has some of the MOST experienced growers making videos, that's why I became interested. You're exactly right about the goals being different when growing different crops, but their growth is affected by similar principles, light being one of the most important when growing indoors. Learning about the particular species' tolerance ranges in scientifically repeatable methods makes things easier for beginner growers, especially for the ones that live in areas where at best they can only take their plant outside in the middle of summer, or ones with limitations for growing conditions or materials and wants to push boundaries in an attempt to save money, or someone in a foreign country that can't easily get perlite or sphagnum. It also makes things easier for experienced growers who already have quality growing equipment and would like to bring out pigments and maximize growth using uv and far red light without burning the plant. Getting beginners into gardening is very important, but there are a lot of people who have experience with growing plants in one way or another, who are interested in extending their collections, preserving rare and endangered plants, or maybe even cannabis growers looking for an alternative to sticky traps for fungus gnats.

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​​@@SarraceniaNorthwest>>> Have you folks experimented with flexible LED strips? The kind you unroll and cut to length?
      I have long toyed with the idea of making tetrahedron-based plant holders. {Yes, I am kinda weird...😊} IF I ever do so, using LED strips might be an option for lighting. Due to the layout and orientation of my house, I do not have any rooms that get a lot of direct sunlight for too much of the day. And I would prefer to have my plants indoors.
      {Thanks in advance.}

  • @RoyDudzic
    @RoyDudzic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the great information! Nice to know we do not have to spend big bucks on artificial lighting.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.

  • @boomfiziks
    @boomfiziks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video was very helpful. Thank you!

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You're so welcome! Glad the info was helpful.

  • @Chrisfeb68
    @Chrisfeb68 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent video. To the point and practical.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for watching. Glad it was helpful!

  • @Mike100istCarnivorousPlants
    @Mike100istCarnivorousPlants ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good points. I never use those purple lights.

  • @marcofini1777
    @marcofini1777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes please, i need to nerd out on lights!

  • @crittergirl3647
    @crittergirl3647 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helpful! Thanks. Ive had great success with Sansi lights from Amazon. Great output and great customer service if theres’s any problem.

  • @LanceKirkman
    @LanceKirkman ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What do you suggest for a house that gets little sunlight and no direct light?

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same principle applies! We'll cover it in future videos.

    • @LanceKirkman
      @LanceKirkman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SarraceniaNorthwest thank you

  • @chevyfish4028
    @chevyfish4028 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    It goes to show that you don't need expensive lighting when supplementing natural light. Thanks for the info. 🌱

  • @ronj9448
    @ronj9448 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a fun video and thanks for sharing. Here in Chicago I had the most impact with older style grow lights. The LEDs seemed to create less robust leaves. Regular bulbs weren't impactful but I'm not in a greenhouse so have less natural light.

  • @mandyrichardson3126
    @mandyrichardson3126 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this info. This is a BIG help, can't wait until the next video

  • @stevenmclaughlin1834
    @stevenmclaughlin1834 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Works great for me

  • @ElmoRitter
    @ElmoRitter ปีที่แล้ว

    *Laughs in commercial cannabis*
    Great to have this out there! It's been tough finding useful info on lighting for carnivorous plants. I tried to use some commercial equipment and found out a 1000w bar is a little much for anything that's not sarracenia lol. I'm using some old clone fixtures right now dimmed way down.

  • @peterphan227
    @peterphan227 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blurple lights didn't do much for me either. Weird color and didn't seem to provide any advantage over white or warm white lights.

  • @tartgreenapple
    @tartgreenapple ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos, hope to see more!

  • @DeadlyPlants2024
    @DeadlyPlants2024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m using a 4 foot long LED shop light 5500 lumens 4000 K 55 Watts. 14 inches above my nepenthes. I have seen decent growth, coloration, and basil shoots. Is this light sufficient enough?

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks for watching! The best way to determine if the lighting is sufficient is to observe how your plants are growing. Are you satisfied with how they look? Great! Then the lighting is perfect. If you're not satisfied, then you need to determine if you need to move the lights closer or further away. Always take your cues from the plants rather than trying to follow a prescribed formula. All guidelines are just guidelines. It's up to you to make the necessary adjustments to get the best growth possible. If you need further assistance, write to us through our website.
      www.growcarnivorousplants.com/ask-the-growers/

  • @romandgtl
    @romandgtl 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can I use the shop lights you mentioned even indoors as a sole light source or do you only recommend it as supplemental lighting.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  10 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for watching. Yes, you can use it as your sole source of light. You just have to move the lights closer to ensure your plants are getting the proper light intensity.

  • @grantimusmaximus8932
    @grantimusmaximus8932 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, glad that I need less. Sean's pretty cool, more of him, please!

  • @zimmy1958
    @zimmy1958 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @eskara1239
    @eskara1239 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a great no nonsense video as expected from SNW. I bought one of those blurple lights for my first light it was horrible.
    Pros:
    1) It works okay
    Cons:
    1) Eye strain, the lighting sucks
    2) Because it doesn't use green light, and plants are green, your plants look black under the lights. Very annoying
    3) Expensive
    4) Loud, most come with fans for cooling
    5) Strangers ask if you're growing weed constantly
    I since switched to a shop light fixture with just the brightest daylight LED light I could find at lowes (The unit you want to look for is Lumens, the more lumens, the brighter the light)
    Just using these ordinary lights on a timer, my plants color up very well (solid red leaves on N. Miranda for example) and produce crazy amounts of nectar/sap on the traps. There is just really no downside to the lights, and they double as a house light.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy our no nonsense approach. Yes, those inexpensive shop lights do a great job as a plant light. We hope to have more videos about lighting. It's just a matter of finding time to film these videos.

  • @Snuckleputz
    @Snuckleputz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any update on that experiment video? I live in a zone 4A, so having my carnys outside in the summer is great at 25-34c however winters can snap down to -40c so I tend to have a mix of indoor growlights supplementing outside patio direct sunlight. It can be hard to find information that doesn't contradict the last thing you read! I currently have 4 Sunblaster white LED growlights set up next to a large west facing window.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for watching. We hit a snag with the video. We have had to restart the experiment. I'm not certain when the a complete video to share. Sometimes, you just have to run your own experiments to see what works for your particular microclimate. If you're satisfied with how your plants are growing, then stick to what you're doing. If it looks like the plants need more light intensity, then move the light source closer or use a different setup. If the plants are burning or getting bleached, move the lights further away or change the daylight hours. That's pretty much the gist of working with artificial lights.

  • @KENTOSI
    @KENTOSI ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, while a lot of grow-lights are blue/purple, there are a few good ones that give of a combined "warm-white" light. Eg - VIPARSPECTRA XS1000.

  • @IMHobby121
    @IMHobby121 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will the white LED shop lights work indoors with very little natural light?

  • @ellenfay9902
    @ellenfay9902 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can these be used for orchids in my garage when it drops below 50 degrees? I have windows, but my bluple lights loose their "color" and end up with shop lights anyway! I have a Polytunnel outside, too. Over 450 orchids and a few nepenthes and the ones that stand up (tall and really tiny short) grown outside. I live in NE FL. Thanks!

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like carnivorous plants, there are many different varieties of orchids. Their care depends on the species and hybrid you have. Our specialty, however, is carnivorous plants, so we can't advise you about your orchid. You will need to ask a grower who specializes in orchids and who can help you identify the type of orchid you have.

  • @madambutterfly5343
    @madambutterfly5343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would this work for Sarracenia seedlings?

  • @CrymInAction
    @CrymInAction ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative. I've tried both, and all though the newer LEDs are all the rage in the marketplace, I've personally had better luck and results with older T5 CFL's.

  • @TheChardluz
    @TheChardluz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what is the waterproof rating on them ?

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      YIKES! I really don't know. We position the lights so they don't get sprayed on. We also cover the tops of them to avoid drips and such. Frankly, waterproof rating isn't something we've considered because the majority of our viewers are windowsill growers.

  • @xthe_rad_bradx1110
    @xthe_rad_bradx1110 ปีที่แล้ว

    So regular white lights work for the carnivorous plants? I'm wondering because idk if my windowsill is giving my flytrap and red d. Capensis enough light. My capensis is blooming for leafs but isn't producing alot if sap and my flytrap is turning black when catching pray

  • @queenkatma
    @queenkatma 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I practically live under pink light. It's my preferred lighting at home. White light gives me a headache. Strange that I seem to be the opposite of most people! I only turn on the white lights if I'm really struggling to find some small object that's fallen under my desk or behind something.

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Queen! Thanks for watching. Pink is your color! Be you!

    • @queenkatma
      @queenkatma 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SarraceniaNorthwest Maybe I am a plant in disguise 🥸

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nepenthes Red Queen!

  • @Malevolous104
    @Malevolous104 ปีที่แล้ว

    I went ahead and bought the Barrina shop lights like you mention in this video but I also see they offer a "grow light" LED version. Would you recommend that over these? Too minor of a difference? Would appreciate your input.

  • @anthonyflores8313
    @anthonyflores8313 ปีที่แล้ว

    have my plants in a 2x3 grow tent. I am currently using an HLG quantum panel @ 100 watts with a shade cloth. Plants seem happy. Any advice on changes? Is the wattage too high?

  • @davidbabcock1231
    @davidbabcock1231 ปีที่แล้ว

    Will these lights work for Venus flytraps and any carnivorous plants or just certain ones?? Thanks for the video. Also could I use a fluorescent bulb it something like a lamp that has the neck you can move down?? I don’t have much space in my apartment at all and badly want a Venus flytrap and a sundew plant and I don’t have a ton of money to sink into it

  • @3dandyrandy3
    @3dandyrandy3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No needing out here, I just leave all my sundews and flytraps outside here in zone 13 and hope the weeks of rain and nights in the 60s will be enough for my fly traps to rest for another growing season in the spring.

  • @starwing2524
    @starwing2524 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know if a 6 watt aquarium light will be enough for Pinguicula lutea?

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  ปีที่แล้ว

      We haven't used any of the lower wattage lights, so you will need to experiment it on your own. That's how we figure out what works and what doesn't!

  • @DJJumpdancer
    @DJJumpdancer ปีที่แล้ว

    i use fullspectrum led lights for my flytraps

  • @SatanenPerkele
    @SatanenPerkele 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I have Blurple lights and I feel nauseus everytime I switch it on. I literally can't be in the same room when that light is on!

    • @SarraceniaNorthwest
      @SarraceniaNorthwest  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks for watching. Yeah, I know what you mean. They hurt my eyes too. I'm so glad we switched to white LED lights. Same results and no discomfort.

  • @fritzschumacher6047
    @fritzschumacher6047 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't hang lights from my ceiling.

  • @scoobydew420
    @scoobydew420 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know why most grow lights cause plants to turn an unnatural color? Almost like a sun burn, and typically very red.
    I have some sarracenia divisions growing both indoors under leds and outdoors naturally, and the colors are very different even though they are the exact same plant genetically.

    • @HernánSlar
      @HernánSlar ปีที่แล้ว

      what leds do you use? And what LED do you recommend for dioneas and sarracenias?

    • @scoobydew420
      @scoobydew420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HernánSlar I use full spectrum HLG brand lights. It depends on the species of drosera. Some like full blasting sun and other thrive with less intense lighting.

  • @Bamu7597
    @Bamu7597 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree that sunlight is the best but my Pings and Haworthias can't stand hot temperature and it is 38-40c° everyday here in South East Asia. So I keeping my purple light in ac room😂

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman ปีที่แล้ว

    @SarraceniaNorthwest >>> Great video...👍

  • @Tommyr
    @Tommyr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video! I hate the so called grow lights. Regular daylight florescent lights work fine as you can see here. Just be sure to get the "Daylight" type tubes, color temp around 6500k.