EREN FREES YMIR! | Attack on Titan Season 4 Fiancé Reaction | Ep 21, “From You, 2000 Years Ago”
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- Everything has led to this moment. After learning the truth about the origin of titans and the Eldian empire, Eren convinces Ymir to let him use the power of the founder! In doing so, Eren uses his powers to do the unthinkable, and finally his endgame plan comes to fruition. This episode was shocking, heartbreaking, thrilling, and disturbing, and we can't WAIT to see what happens next, even though Eren already has.
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Attack on Titan, Season 4, Episode 21 “From you, 2000 Years Ago”
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I waited to see your reaction to this episode since season 4 part 2 begun.
I think you can try Japanese dubbing
Watch death note!!
Demon Slayer
@@dryblackfire7587 more like for 2000 years.
I just noticed that Ymir was speared through the heart, she literally gave her heart for the king, which is the salute that the paradis military has done forever
Woooooooow
Aaaand that just blew my mind
Second fun fact: the X mark that eldian restorationist do in their bodies is in the same position as the place where the spear wounded Ymir.
Wow, the salute is right where the spear hit her, sdfhsahd that really blew my mind right now woow
damm dude!
Eren starting The Rumbling is one of the greatest moments if not the greatest moment in all of Attack on Titan. Everything about that scene, from the music to the visuals just speaks pure terror.
It was way more terrifying than the manga, mappa really did a great job with it 👏
@@BEEP594 meh, I’ll give it to the manga for that sene but it was crazy either way
@@WaifuConnoisseur4405 either delete this comment or edit it(giving spoiler warning)
its aight
I love when armin said. The walls on the paradis are no more
This show went from killing titans and reconquering the walls to being about a full on global apocalypse.
Also Fun fact: The scene in which Ymir is being eaten by her children was shown in the ending of season 2 and at that time nobody knew it was a spoiler cause the chapter in which it shows Ymirs backstory wasn't even released yet, so essentially the anime spoiled for the manga.
I find it very fitting for the theme of the show that the lyrics of the soundtrack and some endings foreshadow events of the future. It solidifies the vibe that "everything was always meant to happen, fate was set in stone from the beginning"
@@outbreakperfected9374 yeah
@@outbreakperfected9374 it basically supports the theory that things can only happen 1 way if they have same situations(each and every situation same),
basically with this we can say that if we get some kind of "god like" powers to solve some kind of "equations" then we can predict each and every event happening in future.
Is it even a spoiler tho, literally brings nothing to the show.
@@sattes it's the best kind of spoiler: the kind that you don't realize is a spoiler until you get there. In other words, almost some kind of prophecy.
"I hereby set you free" is a terrifying conditioning tool the King set into every slaves mind. Being free means danger while being a slave means security.
with that in mind, what could had Ymir be thinking when Eren said to her that she is now free. Adds another layer to that scene, but not sure what it would mean yet
@@redmdlee the thing is she still wasn't free, he used her exactly like king fritz used her. the kings dying wish was to have his kids multiply and for the terror of titans to always exist, thats the exact same thing eren is doing he just has another motive for it.
@@arko.0.1. Yes, but if we believe Eren's rage about Children having to inherit power's (by eating another person) for eternity and his determination to stop, that would certainly feel very strong with Yimir, as she suffered the same.
Also, there is a possibility this outcome could end her eternal servitude. Just thinking how many centuries it must have felt for Yimir inside the paths realms, making the wall Titans feels overwhelming, and I'm not even counting every time a titan-shifter has transformed....
@@arko.0.1. "the kings dying wish was to have his kids multiply and for the terror of titans to always exist, thats the exact same thing eren is doing"
Excuse me but no.
First of Ymir was free when Eren talked to her, she decided to help Eren by free will.
Second Eren doesnt want to multiply so the terror of the titans will always exist.
@@TheBlackfall234 1. that's the illusion of free, he uses her power for HIS plans just like king fritz did. she did it without hesitation just like how she did it for the king. 2. eh yes? he literally wants to kill everyone so eldians (titans) will be able to live and have kids. eldians will be the only people to reign across the world just like king fritz wanted. this mf caused the rumbling do you not think that is the terror of titans over the world?
Zeke: "Oh yeah, Eren?! Well I have royal blood anyway so you can't do anything!"
Eren: "I'm about to execute what's called a pro gamer move."
Eren the POG
Zeke was so tone deaf. "Obey me" "I'm royalty", dude did you just not watch the flashback.
@@partypiano0729 Well, considering he never thought about the fact Eren and Historia could've undone his euthanization after Historia took the Beast, I'm not surprised he was this stupid. (Eren had more time left than Zeke, so I'm sure that would've been number one on his bucket list if he'd chosen this double-cross instead)
@@partypiano0729 I think that Zeke really didn't see the past of Ymir. The whole flashback seems like started when Eren touched Ymir, and they are both holders of Founding Titan so..
Eren: I activate Talk no Jutsu
*To You, in 2000 Years* - the people of the Walls are believed to be what remains of humanity
*From You, 2000 Years Ago* - the people of Paradis are soon to be what remains of humanity
Eren wants to make what people used to believe within the walls a reality.
@@dryblackfire7587 he doesnt want to. he feels like he has to
@@dryblackfire7587 he will also erase their memories of what happend before that to make any opposition disappear
@@lewis0705 no he wants to. If he felt like he needed to he would take better care to not kill all the Eldians on Marley
@@EloWhisperer that wouldn’t be possible lmao, hundreds of thousands of wall titans don’t have that kind of precision to pick and choose who they kill, they just decimate everything in the immediate vicinity
Montana has really grown. She used to not be able to look at the screen when Eren’s mom was slurped up like spaghetti but now she’s been desensitized enough that she doesn’t look away at titans killing people.
Slurped up like spaghetti PLS 💀💀💀💀💀
She flinched barely more than Kenny when Maria, Rose and Sina ate Ymir's corpse
Yup, till this day I still cover the scene when it gets too brutal. When Eren used the jaw titan as a nut cracker and gulp up the blood, I was so gross out I looked away. When I found this channel, I thought Montana would have the same reaction, but she didn't look away! I was suprise how use to it she getting.
Some character development right there
@@akiraiton4331 lol
Considering Eren's head getting blown off and him turning into the Founding Titan happened almost instantly in the real world, I can't even begin to imagine how terrifying it must've been for everyone.
Gabi shoots Eren's head off but sees another health bar appear.
@@dryblackfire7587 million times bigger
@@dryblackfire7587 boss music ensues
@@philkennedy5758 yea his titan is like 500 meters tall, considering colosals are ants next to it
@@bennogb5069 And it is all bone all of Eren Founding Titan. I bet it is as hard as War Hammer Thorn weapon.
Titans will only regenerate so long as they have the will to live. That's why Reiner wouldn't get up in season 4 and why Ymir died. It's sad, she chose to die, possibly the first choice she made in countless years.
I wanted to say this myself, but yeah You are correct
See, but what I don’t understand is that if she chose to die as an act of defiance against the king, losing the will to live and serve him, why does she get up and continue to serve him once she wakes up in Paths despite that? Didn’t she lose the will to live and serve him?
@@komarunaegi7460 Welp, she wanted to love someone. She loved fritz so thats why she served him and the royal bloodline under their command. And also, even tho she died she made titans in that co ordinates world becuz thats what she was supposed to do i guess.
That is clearly not true(She was tired and decided to die ) ........why ..because 1:The spear hit the heart(the core energy supply) and the brain was not getting oxygen to keep working because the spear was disturbing the healing process because it was still attached to the chest. 2:True pure slave does not get tired why she is loyal and she was still working on the other side and she had the power the to destroy everything if she was tired she would massacre everyone and rest ......... 3:So don't say that without understanding aot first
@@funnycats6976 you can also say she has been only living as a slave her entire life, so she doesnt know anything else and thats why shes so willing to serve Fritz and everyone else with her service.
I always found it disturbing how much of a monster King Fritz truly was. Mostly the fact that he forced Ymir to bear his children and that he had his daughters eat their mother's corpse.
Yeah the true villain of the story.
Fun fact: It is said that King Fritz killed triple the current population which is 2,000,000,000. Which means he exterminated 6 Billion lives
Yeah he was the real devil in that relationship
But then, because of that. Eldia became the most dominant force for 2000 years.
The irony being, for as much as a victim of that tiranny Ymir was, she became much more worse in the end.
Because of her repressed nature, she was literally responsible for global genocide of unprecedented scale. Without her, Eren would not have been able to do what he did.
She was as much to blame as any other, if not much worse. And that’s key in the message the author is trying to portray with this complex story. Nothing is black/white, and everyone is capable of the worse possible things.
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She did have regenerative powers all the time. She could have just gotten up and walked it off...
But when she heard what the king said, she just accepted death and left her body... She decided to die...
She died 13 years after inheriting Titan power. She choose her death. This is why all Titan shifters are cursed to die after 13 years...
Just like with Reiner, you have to have a will to live in order to regenerate. I don't know if "she just accepted death and left her body", Instead I think she just lost the will to live and died.
It was the first time Ymir made a choice for herself and it was for death. What makes it even more tragic, is that even in death, she never had any rest.
@@SemiJuggaloNumber2 And even worse, Zeke claimed that he had experienced years in the Paths between the time he touched Eren's head and the time Eren recovered enough from the shock of being decapitated to awaken within them. That took place over maybe a second or two. Ymir has been in the Paths for *2,000 years.* How long, subjectively, has she been doing this?
One huge message about Attack on Titan is that when you compare suffering you can’t acknowledge suffering at all, Marley and Paradis comparing each other’s suffering couldn’t see the other side.
The Marleyans were objectively worse though, because they had knowledge of the Vow Renouncing War, and that the Reiss family had the ability to wipe people’s memories on a national level, and that it had been used. So even in spite of their knowledge that everyone on Paradis had no clue the outside world was even a thing, they still wanted to make it to where every last one of them was dead, no matter how long it took. Grisha was completely right when he said it was no atonement for the Eldians to die ignorant of the past and in terror. Maybe some would think like Zeke, maybe some like Eren, but how would they know if they never realize there is an outside world?
@@TheLordNovo 💯they caused the rumbling themselves
If it didn't happen to you, it isn't worse. As Hange said - keep your issues to stuff we actually lived through because both sides had horrific experiences. Ymir could have killed the king but didn't - she chose that life, there was no magical force making her obey him other than her thinking protecting the people & making them strong was important (since there was no one to do so for her people that were killed in the beginning of her story). So instead of blaming the people of king Fritz, she knew they weren't guilty of his or the militarys decisions & crimes but she knew they were innocent and needed a protector & she could give them that.
It's important to note that Eldia's oppression of the world BEGAN 2000 years ago, only ending a hundred years before the start of the story. While that still doesn't justify the treatment of Eldians in the world, it goes to show just how deep the scar of Eldia's rule runs in the world. Just consider how big of an impact World War I had on the development on our modern world a hundred years back and try to imagine having the atrocities of that world visited on the world for 1900 years, it's a shitty situation for everybody.
With all due respect, Marley is doing the same thing Eldia did. What pacifist king did was naive. He didnt stop wars, he just handed the weapons to another psychopath.
@@abhabh6896 He gets that. He just said it doesn't justify what everyone else has done, but it makes the world-building make sense in how it informs the beliefs of so many characters.
@@abhabh6896 did he say they didn't? Why did you put words in his mouth.
He just referred to how it's not unrealistic for the world to hate the eldians even in the present since they are still recovering from the scars of 2000 years of terror
In the manga Kruger said that if they do for 2000 years then not be a single Malean I think the audien empire did happen but just I think there was in betweens idk
The main reason the world hates subjects of ymir isn’t because of the historical atrocities of the eldian empire, that’s just a justification. The real reason for all the hatred is because they fear them, due to their capability of turning into titans. Eren is probably correct in saying that even if the paradis island eldians (considered the last remnant of the eldian empire) were to be wiped out, the world would still not be satisfied until all subjects of ymir everywhere are destroyed. Not saying that justifies wiping them out first pf course, but it’s important to understand what’s fueling the cycle of hatred on both sides.
A titan shifter can regenerate as long as he wants to live. Ymir was just tired of that life, so she gave up and that's why there's the course of Ymir: a titan shifter dies after 13 years because she decided to die after 13 years
However, Fritz ordered her to come back to life and continue his work after she was practically dead, so she was reawakened in that hell of a place.
@@elheber close enough, but there's more to the story.
Well a kill shot doesn't allow a Titan shifter to come back to life. The spear could have pierced her heart which could have been an instakill
@@ViolentVibrator Eren has been beheaded, so… 😂
@@maghettoesplosivoHP scientifically it's been proven the brain is still active for moments afterwards. There's been numerous studies on that. She bled out and died from a spear right to the heart. They even state in the anime that Zeke said I made contact with you while you still had consciousness just after the beheading which put him in the limbo of the Coordinate.
Now we've finally seen the true history. It was a mix of both Eldian and Marleyan truth. Ymir did build stuff, but she also destroyed and crushed a lot of things and people too. And her descendants then did the same as well. Time to play devil's advocate for a bit. A lot of people always seem to think the Marleyan-Eldian conflict happened 2000 years ago. While yes, that is correct that it began 2000 years ago, it only ended recently, about a hundred years ago. Meaning the Eldians basically subjugated and destroyed the world for 1900 years. The Marleyans who currently are alive probably had Grandparents or Great-Grandparents who were subject to the Eldian Empire. And the stories of fear and hatred were passed down. Which is why the world hates Eldians.
In war, things usually end with both parties coming to an agreement to not cause further destruction. But Karl Fritz didn't do that. He decided he didn't want to be that guy and his response to his people causing 1900 years of suffering was basically, "Sorry about all that. Promise we won't do it again." But he also threatened them with the Rumbling, pushing that same fear and rage onto future generations, running from the conflict and wiping people's memories. Some people like to sit on a moral high horse, but if someone tormented your family, friends, and everyone you knew for 2000 years throughout multiple generations, and their only response was saying sorry, you probably wouldn't be like, "Oh. They were just in a silly goofy mood".
That doesn't mean treating Eldia like how they were treated is right. And doing what happened to them to the rest of the world also isn't right. But the show brings up a few interesting themes. And one of those is becoming like your enemy. Hange noticed that she and the Government were becoming exactly like the same people they fought so hard to take down 4 years ago. People mistreat Marleyans and treat them like servants on the Island. Pixis notices that Yelena and the Jaegerists are putting armbands on people and isolating them like Marley did. And Marley became what Eldia once was. So the question arises. If you're so determined to defeat your enemy that you lose yourself and become exactly like them, do you still consider that to be a victory?
Wish rest of the Fandom too would deep dive into these messages, philosophies and question rather than just waging a war about their opinions and not resting till they are able to prove another person wrong and following the same thing the anime warns people to not do(although on a much smaller scale but stil..)...a well thought out comment indeed!!
The main reason the world hates subjects of ymir isn’t because of the historical atrocities of the eldian empire, that’s just a justification. The real reason for all the hatred is because they fear them, due to their capability of turning into titans. Eren is probably correct in saying that even if the paradis island eldians (considered the last remnant of the eldian empire) were to be wiped out, the world would still not be satisfied until all subjects of ymir everywhere are destroyed. Not saying that justifies wiping them out first pf course, but it’s important to understand what’s fueling the cycle of hatred on both sides.
her descendents not ancestors, ancestor becomes before.
Honestly some people still alive could have even had parents who were directly oppressed.
This is such a well thought out comment! A well done analysis!
When Eren declares that she's free, you can just see the pain and anger in Ymir's eyes. She had been suffering for thousands of years by obeying the royal bloodline and when she finally has the chance to make a decision of her own free will she takes it and unleashes her wrath. This always gives me chills.
"If Grisha wanted to stop Eren why did he gave eren the founder"
It's answered in "3X11 - Bystander", after he learn about Carla's death his desire for vengence rises again
Precisely, especially because if he saw the walls breach, that means he saw Bertholdt and Reiner breach it in their Titan forms, and he knew the Marleyans had those titans, and to him, even in a world where to them, he’s long dead in their eyes, they won’t stop tearing his life apart, so he gives up on hope of mitigating the damage. After he sees his new home is destroyed and ripped away, he commits fully to the destruction of Marley
Grisha knew the path was set. He knew if Eren is to be stopped that is already in motion, he just hasn't seen that glimpse yet.
Season 1: we’re the only survivors of humanity
Season 4: let’s make that a reality shall we
That titan worm resembled a real life animal called "Hallucigenia". It is an animal from the cambrian period, when multicellular animals first started to appear
And that parasite attached to its host and when the host is hurt or injured it protect the host. Sound familiar ??
When titan shifter (host) hurt, then they transform.
@@akaza_Snow_Compass Where are you getting that from? Hallucigenia wasn't a parasite.
Source : Trust me Bro
@@budiamies5531 you can just google the name lmfao
@@KingKraid my comment was to Lucid , not you
Grisha didn't know about the fate of Carla when he asked Zeke to stop Eren. In season 3, we saw how learning of her death made him so distraught that he chose to inject Eren anyway.
Maybe he wasn't on Eren's side at first but after seeing what happened to his family and neighbors he was fully on board. Burn them all lol
@@BhlackBishop I doubt that I don’t think he would be that heartless and lacking in morals
@@tennisplayer5490 that attack titan (Eren) drive to fight...and each attack titan suffered HUGE up close lose young..Kruger's family buried alive in front of him and they each saw someone who witnessed up close lose...
He also probably knew that the path was set. Eren was going to be a titan & set on the path of destroying the outside world - but Grisha can't see every single moment of the future, just glimpses. So he has to go forward on his path either way & trust someone, maybe Zeke, will set a better future he isn't yet privy to.
I was pleasantly surprised that Eren's transformation into the Founding Titan didn't use any CGI.
Even if it was CGI im pretty sure it would've had looked great lol.
the animation was so smooth and beautiful.
Eren's compassion for Ymir and her slavery is proof that he didn't mean any of the things he said to Armin and Mikasa, about how he hated anything and anyone that wasn't free. I just think that's interesting.
i think he was trying to protect them by warding them away from him.
He doesn’t care about Ymir he merely said what he needed to do he could use her
It’s actually a sense of subtle irony that Eren only talks about freedom to everyone, but he tells Ymir that ‘you’ve been leading me here’, implying he never had a choice, but that his being there was by Ymir’s will. Eren was nothing more than the tool of her wrath so to speak, or at least that’s an implication. Eren also could’ve not said anything to Grisha, but he did, meaning he still has his free will too
The silence when the episode ended is amazing. Exactly how I felt after watching this episode.
Not so Fun fact: zeke waited for eren to wake up for years in the Paths world (where ymir is) and those years went by in an instant in the outside world. Ymir was in the Paths world for 2000 years....IN THE OUTSIDE WORLD!!! If i say she stayed a slave in the paths world for billions of years it would an understatement.
yeah , making millions of titans while walking with bucket of water is gonna take time :D
Someone did the math on it, she was there for about 200 Billion years.
@@firemochimc someones math is wrong, it states that time their is differentit is both instant and infinite so not billions of years but an eternity
@@houseofaction what that statement you posted means, is that while something is occuring in the paths, like ymir constructing a titan, time will stop. Once she's done, it resumes.
I dont know about the 200 billion years part, but i imagine that's how they came to that conclusion.
This is the only show where you could also probably do a genuine react series of a rewatch and still have it be just as fresh and exciting
Fun little detail: Grisha would’ve lost had he gone along with the plan the first time since the previous founding titan user was experienced in fighting (as we saw in Kenny’s flashback). He easily overtook Freida because she was still inexperienced.
Still not guaranteed he would have lost eren was less experienced than reiner and he beat him for example
And Kenny would likely have been protecting Uri as well. Grisha would've been toast.
@@lucidiously I don’t think Kenny ever had Odm gear to do anything though
@@nnightkingj I don't know if Kenny had access to odm gear at that point, but he is still an Ackerman. Grisha could be dead before even having the chance to transform.
@@lucidiously without odm gear and blades it’s unlikely he would be able to attack before he transforms plus as a shifter you can handle more than normal humans
Eren did promise as a kid that he would "kill every last one of them", guess he's fulfilling that promise
The key to understanding the series is that Eren never really changes during the series. It's really us the reader/watcher that perceives Eren differently over time.
@@ocalaballa yeah he is been an angry borderline psycho the entire series
When he said hes gonna conquer the world I know hes crazy af
“Kill every last one of them…”
I can’t see that line anymore without thinking of a certainly eyepatch wearing lord.
S1-3: "Run, Eren!"
S4: "Run, it's Eren!"
I love this!😂
Hear me, Subjects of Ymir.
The whole episode is fantastic, but those last few minutes were god-tier.
MANGA SPOILERS DOWN BELOW! READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!
Edit: This was the chapter/episode that made me realize, "Paradis is doomed. Between Eldia's bloody past and Eren's Rumbling, there is no way the rest of the world are going to live this one down, should they survive the oncoming massacre."
Something that was confirmed by the extra pages.
Truth be told, many years have I watched anime and never have I seen one like Attack on Titan
Those extra pages are only to show that conflict would never end, it's human's nature to fight. Look at our current world..
SPOILERS
Wrong after the events of the rumbling the rest of the world will have no choice to get over it, when 90% of the worlds population is wiped out the dominant force on earth from that moment on is Paradise island with most of their military force intact, by the time the rest of the world can rebuild their militaries to what it was, Paradise will finally be modern. war will eventually occur again but by that time no one will have any feelings of being oppressed by eldia
Just to remind you: Protagonist does NOT always mean the good guy
In AOT no one is the good guy
@@RandomGuyVid thats not the point
no one is good, no one is bad
it's just a battle of perspectives and Ideologies
@@nerevarchthn6860 it kinda is
@@RohanSinghal-ob7zu i mean there are people undeniably evil. Two examples:
King fritz
Gross
Prove me wrong
There are also characters with questionable morals.
For example Floch literally becomes a facist and no one can say shooting an unarmed person after telling them there home is doomed because of eldia and then tell them to join the Eldian empire is somehow a morally grey thing
When that scene came up in the manga my friend had the theory that when she was alive Ymir could only turn into titan when Fritz was asking something or pointing a goal, like the power couldn't work without Fritz, which is why she couldn't escape him despite that power. He based this theory on Eren training from Season 1. In order to turn into a titan Eren needed to bleed and to have a clear purpose before turning, like catching a spoon, Killing the titans inside the wall or Killing Annie.
But Ymir had no goal of her own she lived for other and was a slave unlike Eren she couldn't turn by herself because she couldn't have clear purpose . And what happened after didn't help
Ooo now i have another thought in my head that would keep me awake at night
That's a pretty good theory actually
i read a comment up above that i'm basing this off of. ymir was hunted when she was free. she was safe as a slave. so that's the type of conditioning that king fritz instilled in his slaves so they didn't rebel. ymir was only a child when she got the power of the titans and already fritz's slave for a while.
My issue is there is no magic power linking that. It would still be Ymir's choice to only use her power when asked. Was it just brainwashing, low self worth, or as she saw that wedding walking through the village just wanted that image of security & love? While the king didn't see her as a person & could have been a better person, putting his power first included putting his people and nation first. You can say it was all ego but once dead it wouldn't matter to him - he was doing what all leaders do, try to ensure his people will endure forever. Ymir could have killed the king but didn't - she chose that life, there was no magical force making her obey him other than her thinking protecting the people & making them strong was important (since there was no one to do so for her people that were killed in the beginning of her story). So instead of blaming the people of king Fritz, she knew they weren't guilty of his or the militarys decisions & crimes but she knew they were innocent and needed a protector & she could give them that.
I don't understand what you mean by there are no magical power linking to that? This theory is based on the event of season one, where Eren had to had a purpose before turning so based on that the loophole that started totally make sense. It can't your choice if you don't know the other options.
Plus there is a timeskip between the moment Ymir got the power and moment Fritz "rewarded" her and got her to go to war. So all love/brainwash thing must have happened between that time or after she got her first kid
The last episode and this episode happened in about 5 seconds in the real world. The eldians could only see Gabi blewing off Eren’s head just to instantly start the rumbling. Horrifying
One of the things i like about this episode, is that you learn that all the marley 'propaganda' about how evil and oppressive eldian was, was actually true
And also what the eldians said about building and the good that was done is also true. Each side just chose to see different sides of black and white while the actual truth as always was much more gray
@@xenonnati well yeah it is perspective because the eldians committed atrocities against the other races and empires but of course on their side Ymir was a great help in developing their land
@@xenonnati but no this portion isn’t morally gray at all the actual truth was both but not in the way the eldians restorationists assumed because they tried to act like Ymir was a benefit to everyone but she only helped the eldians
@@tennisplayer5490 yes, but we are talking about eldians not just ymir, the whole seeing everyone of an entire race as evil devils, is what the cycle of violence revolves around, eldians being horrible to everyone when they were strong, marleyans being horrible to everyone when they are strong, yet there's nothing truly black and white,
not all of the eldians are "devils" neither are the marlyeans the propaganda of each side is very much twisted and equally fucked up.. i wasn't saying either of the sides is right i was saying that ther is a hint of truth in both sides's stories... ohh and come to think of it we see very little of the time before eldians had the power of the titans. the cycle of violence may stretch back far longer than ymir's time.
If you remember, that original plan was to release a PART of the wall as a deterrent after the euthanization.
The villagers pointing to OG Ymir reminded me immediately of what happened with, umm, 'freckles' Ymir during her flashback (she was also dressed like OG if I recall)
Also, the flowers randomly blooming when titan powers were called upon makes sense now, given that they were a focal point in this flashback
"IS EREN GONNA GET THE WORM??" made me laugh so loudly i love you guys
Ymir dying then could mean 1 of 2 things: Either the parasite had taken a toll on her after 12 years to the point where her body could no longer regenerate, or like Reiner during the attack on Liberio simply had no will to survive (understandably so), and in doing so sort of set a timer on all her successors.
It's the second one
ONE STEP CLOSER TO EPISODE 22 BABY
What do you like so much about episode 22? All I see from it is just the aftermath of this behemoth episode
@@dryblackfire7587 I'm excited for one particular scene which I expect to be my favourite scene of the part.
Not many people know this but if you read the manga it shows that Ymir actually DID let the pig escape. Not that that makes it much better though.
Literally everyone who read it should know this.
Your comment may be a spoiler, since that’s not shown until later in the manga. At this point, it was meant to be ambiguous.
@@marshall3869 Anything that we would only know by watching future episodes/pages is the definition of a spoiler, if it's never known then it's not a spoiler. But since the show hasn't ended yet then this information can be classified as a spoiler.
@@BhlackBishop nerd
That's revealed later on, it's definitely a spoiler
14:42 remember what falco said "as long as he has the will to live he can regenerate" (limitations apply of course)
The number symbolism of 9 and 13 is everywhere in this episode: Thirteen fingers pointed at Ymir and the flower Ymir was looking at had 9 petals for example.
The fact ymir died at 13 as well
@@annamirosh2085 I dont think she died at age 13. She died 13 years after becoming the Founder.
@@supersilva2 good point my brain fried a bit
It’s cool how there are 9 petals on the flower representing the 9 shifters but on one has blood on it. Maybe the one with the blood represents the attack titan.
Ok, so in my opinion, the reason why Ymir died there was because she decided to give up. Since she died after 13 years, that's why the "curse of Ymir" is a thing (all shifters die in 13 years). Since she was the first, the curse of Ymir would happen to anyone else that inherited her powers.
You know, normally anime protagonists use Talk no Jutsu in order to stop bad things from happening. Eren used it to start a global genocide.
It is important to notice, that Eren is refering to his own always as "subject of Ymir" and never "Eldians".
99% of all eldians are Subjects of ymir because Ymir and Karls bloodline mixed with the entire race
first ep was foreshadowing personified of this amazing masterpiece, this isnt just an anime, its a work of art.
smart call not answering the question "do you support the rumbling and what eren is doing why/why not? and if you don't support it what alternatives would have been a better option" that question would give you so many mixed responses it would have been crazy
Easy. Use the small scale rumbling to scare everyone off. Demand the titan shifters tobe handed over, with 9 tiran shifters, buy time for technology (demand scientists from others aswell) and also spend some time figuring ymirs curse and ways to control it.
@@abhabh6896 ok and what do they do after they got the technology, and while they advance that technology they have to continue passing down the titan so historia is basically a breeding horse, and what if there is no way to control ymirs curse, literally everything you just said is so flawed I could keep going for a while
eren already see the future, what's make him so eager and desperate to find another option by himself make me believe he already saw that there's no more titan's power, means titan's era already end, but the price to achieve this too damn high. i see it this way, eren try to achieve the same ending, but try to find another way and the best option to minimize the damage along the process, but the thing so complex and no one could understands including himself. if we we gonna talk about zeke's plan and 3 options he give, it's just prolong the crysis, not to mention his plan are basically asking his race to commit suicide and perish slowly. eren's goals always clear since the day 1, the world without any single titan and it's power. if the price is 80% humanity outside the paradis being wiped out, so be it. i see a fair trade here, eldia without any titan power, and the world technologies and millitaries being reduced.
@@joesitsukie5615 the world would still have titans, since eldians still exist but there wouldn't be any discrimination since the only ones left would be eldians, I personally don't see any other options but to wipe out the 80% in ep 12 of season 4 part 2 we see eren only made up his mind to commit to the 80% killing plan once he heard how other eldians and other nations view paradise island until that point he kept looking for other options
Oh how I've been waiting for this episode lol. Guess thats the end of "Eren doesn't want the rumbling" counter huh?
Without getting into spoilers, they're officially past the point where a huge portion of the fanbase begin to have mixed to negative feelings about the narrative, the plot and the characters.
15:20
Keep in mind, the will to live is important for Titan shifters. Remember when they were in Marley and Reiner was basically catatonic for a while after his conversation with Eren? Because at that moment he lost his will to live. He wanted to die. He only regained that will because he needed to live to protect the kids.
Ymir was tired. She could have regenerated, but she didn't want to. She lost her will to live.
Montana asked if there could have been a "Half Rumbling" that was Armin's plan/hope, that Eren would use some Titans to only destroy the military, but clearly Eren has decided against that plan. Zeke had a Euthanasia plan, Armin thought Eren had the same Rumbling plan as himself, but Eren had his own Rumbling plan. Lots and lots of plans.
I guess that means the rumbling can be stopped on purpose since Armin was on board.
I dunno if you guys check it yet but, after this episode please revisit season 2 ED. It changes so much with context
I absolutely love all the AoT episode titles! It's genius.
That soundtrack was amazing.. Footsteps of Doom💀💀
I got CHILLS when the walls came down.
Just keep in mind this all happened just in like 10 seconds from Gabi's shot
I'm glad that i found your channel. Your reaction are genuine
13 hands pointing to Ymir, 13 years she lived as a titan, so every subject of Ymir after having titan powers will die within 13 years, just like founder Ymir.
9 petals of that flower, 9 types of titan. Even though it was splitted into 3 first and then further into 9.
But in that scene 16:01, one titan is missing. Either it could be founding Titan or attack titan. Where attack titan makes sense as it revolts royalty.
I have an idea for a video:
Kenny and Montana make a list of their favorite scenes from aot, and then react to the Japanese dub versions of those scenes
I like that idea
Oh my God let it go already it's never gonna freaking happen 🙄
Grisha crying to Zeke, Erwin's last charge, and most Kenny scenes.
Another attempt at trying to get them to watch sub?
@@everburn it never stops, they don't care that Kenny and Montana have auditory issues
Yeah. In here, we find out the history that Marley teaches people really is the untampered version backed by multiple other sources from other victims of the Eldian Empire. The history Grisha and the Restorationists are teaching their kids is the revisionist version with all the atrocities commited by their ancestors denied or reframed.
The reason the Eldians and the Eldian Empire are so viscerally despised is because they're basically Dark Age Nazis who terrorized the world with the power of the titans for more than a thousand years--enslaving and wiping out many other people and entire cultures in the process. Its first king? Basically Barbarian Hitler. They also instituted blood supremacy laws that put themselves on top and everyone else below them. The Eldians we see now are the inheritors of this putrid legacy.
Marley. They don't seem any better.
@@abhabh6896 They aren't. But that's not the point. The point is they and the rest of the world have a legitimate grievance against the Eldian race. 1900 years of worldwide historical trauma isn't undone by a handful of generations.
@@Borderose No i am sorry they have no true grievance agains the Eldian race. as humans are NOT responsible for the actions of their ancestors. nore are the Eldians themselves responsible for this opporession. the royal bloodline is as they were following the will of King Karl Fritz by force
@@houseofaction The Reiss family _saved_ humanity because Karl Fritz couldn't take the guilt anymore. His will to bind his successors to pacifism is as overpowering and absolute as it is because Karl believed in his heart of hearts and in the deepest recesses of his soul that the Eldian Empire and the Eldians who benefited from it are a malignant force on the world and mankind. Karl Fritz didn't do the atrocities of the Eldian Empire. The First Fritz, sure, but Karl? How is that his fault if he's the one who put an end to the world's suffering at his own people's expense?
And the idea of whether or not the descendants are responsible for the actions of their ancestors...They aren't. But that's cold and little comfort or help to those victimized. Those who lost people, wealth, time, and opportunity. People who were forced to live under heel of a people they and many others loathed. Eldia had a literal thousand year reich and almost had a second after that to do to the weak as they pleased, during that time countless people they considered subjects and inferior were killed and some cultures and tongues completely wiped out. And again all this suffering, non-stop, for close to two thousand years. Think of the scale of the violation here. Think of the sense of loss the world feels for what the Eldian Empire took from them? No one's saying Marley or the other nations are in the right for returning the abuse. They aren't. Two wrongs don't make a right. But some understanding is warranted. The sins of the Eldian Empire were of a truly abhorrent and unforgivable nature. And the world simply cannot let their anger and fury go.
Everything about this episode was absolutely spectacular, the truth behind Ymirs past answers so many questions that you have throughout this show and then just the pure terror you feel when eren starts the rumbling and delivers that speech at the end.....my God this anime is perfect
In my opinion, this episode marks the end of the War of Paradis Arc, so I will give my review of the full arc here.
Attack on Titan's War of Paradis Arc, spanning from Episode 9 to Episode 21 of Season Four, is possibly the arc of the series most rich in character growth, and certainly my third favourite arc of the series.
Eren Yeager continues to be the best written character in Season Four, transitioning seamlessly into his role as an antagonist while manipulating everyone around him to set up the events that would lead to him inheriting the Founding Titan.
The end of Mikasa Ackerman's arc is set up here, an arc that I don't see anybody talking about: Her struggle to be free. I won't say anything more.
Gabi Braun's development here is a perfect extension of her characterization in the Marley Arc, facilitating my favourite scene of the arc: the Children of the Forest speech. People who say that Gabi didn't deserve redemption need to watch that scene again.
Floch Forster comes into his own as my second least favourite character in the series in this arc, but he only has that title because no character in this series is badly written. I love hating this guy and I won't change my mind about that.
I could talk about the small character moments found in this arc for days, but this comment is already a wall of text.
Needless to say, I am giving the War of Paradis Arc of Attack on Titan a 9/10.
Only one arc left, and it's a doozy.
The Rumbling Arc.
Can we take a moment and appreciate how good was soundtrack of this episode ❤️
The comment that Hange originally made about the legend of the tribe of cannibals, when discussing seaney and bean, should ring much darker now. The tribe Hange belongs to, and all the people of the walls, the Eldians are a tribe of cannibals, feeding parent to child for 2000 years to continue the titan lineage. We also now have a reason titans eat people. It is the will of the king. Just in the same way a member of the royal family could create a vow renouncing war, King Fritz speech was his vow for his people.
Sean, your iq is too low
Beautiful...you guys finally caught up
I like how you guys hold hands when something crazy happens in the show lol so cute ☺️
One of the best episodes in the entire show
This means a lot to the Eren-Mikasa relationship. Eren stating that he hates anyone without a free will while he fully understands the situation of Ymir. Ymir and Mikasa are pretty much the same considering that both of them have the urge to protect a particular person that they're in "love" with. This does prove that Eren was setting up a play in the convo with Armin and Mikasa.
yeah, gorls are crazy for psychos in this story lol.
I would for sure watch a rewatch reaction for the whole series
Yes finally you reacted to this episode
you all remember the propaganda counter...? yeah, there was no propaganda in the end. Both sides were right, she did helped built the roads, bridged the mountains etc but all the atrocities marleyans told were also true, the massacres by the hands of the eldians/titans was true too... so who is truly right in the end...?
"You have been guinding me this whole time, haven't you?"
As a anime only I don't know if this line is explained further ahead, but considering the tittle of this ep I belive that Ymir planted memory's in Eren's subconscient since he was a child, even before he gets Titan powers, and that was what make his personality like that. Remember Eren's dream in the first ep? That's why i belive that Ymir is the "vilan" of this history, while Eren was just her tool to set her free.
Hmmm good theory and it back up well. With what the first episode title is and this one.
Since Ymir is the original Titan, I think she probably had all of the powers of the current 9 Titans, including the Attack Titan's ability to share the memories of past and future Attack Titans. Considering that, was Ymir influencing Eren -- or was Eren influencing Ymir? Or are they all essentially one consciousness, one will?
First time in her life she felt like a person. Even helped her remember that.
ANOTHER ICONIC EPISODE MY GOD AJDJSKJCSN love your reactions 💜
Comment below which Anime we should watch next! We will select the top two choices based on votes, watch the first two episodes of said series, then decide which one to continue watching as our next series!
-Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood
-Death Note
-Demon Slayer
All 3 are really good, but I would love to see you 2 react to Death Note.
Death note without any doubt.
Demon Slayer. And maybe, alongside it, if you choose to do two shows at the same time again:
Your Lie In April
Teasing Master Takagi San
A Silent Voice
Demon Slayer is a super fun anime!
Death note😊
I think it's incredibly interesting that the perspective of Marleyans and Eldians on Ymir is both accurate in some parts and inaccurate in others. Ymir never made a deal with the devil and she did help build roads and buildings, but she also won battles on the orders of King Fritz and her descendants dominated the world for thousands of years and slaughtered countless people thanks to the powers of the Titans. It shows that just like in the real world, no perspective is truly unbiased and there are always some lies mixed in with the truth.
However, her descendants doing that is still not her fault. She was forced to bear those children and then those children were forced to eat her.
King Fritz, the Reiss family, Paradis government S1-S2, and the Marleyan government plus Floch, and Eren are the true villains of this story. (I may understand why Eren went the way he did, that doesn't mean I condone his course of action)
Both races took parts from the story for their advantage and took out parts that were to their disadvantage
@@messingmusic_and_animation I'm not saying that all of that is Ymir's fault, I believe she is the most tragic characters in the story, I'm just saying that the Restorationist such as Grisha refuse to believe that the horrible actions the Eldians and Ymir (who did it because she believed she had no free will of her own as a slave) did actually happened, which they unfortunately did.
Ymir built roads for Eldia. Fritz, that damn pig of a man, had her destroy everyone else's and ordered her to assist him in enslaving the world.
Marley's version of the facts is more accurate to the truth. I'm inclined to believe it because these flashbacks aside, Eldia's atrocities are known to more than just Marley and is in fact how the newly freed nations were able to find common ground with each other in a post-Eldian world. Peace among nations party hinged on the idea of hating Eldians together.
@@messingmusic_and_animation Eren has the power to destroy the world! Why not use it?!
I find it cool that king fritz and his soldiers were draw to look bigger (maybe not on purpose) than the slaves. In my mind it kinda shows that they were the "titans" before titans existed
I'M SOOOO EXCITED FOR THE NEXT EPISODE
Everyone wants to stop Eren but no one has another plan. Their only plan is trying to negotiate with the rest of the world. That obviously wasn't working. Eren is basically doing the most realistic thing someone in his position of power would do. Its easy to see Eren as the bad guy as we sit at home in our comfortable houses and watch. Long story short if I lived the same life Eren did, I'd probably do the same thing and so would you.🤷♂️
Kenny bro your reactions are the best..!
There's a decent argument for this being one of the greatest episodes of television ever
ymirs dead because she no longer have any will to live, thus making her regenerative powers stopped. remember when reiner didn't heal after protecting falco? just like that. reiner heals and transforms when he heard the kids' scream and restored his will to live.
I definitely prefer Ymir's roar in the sub. But still a good episode for the dub, nonetheless. Can't wait to see you two watch the next episode!
Did you notice the flower Ymir looks at before entering the tree? It has 9 petals, like the 9 Primordial Titans.
And when she is accused of letting the pig go, 13 hands are pointing at her, like the 13 years during which an Eldian can receive the power of a Primordial Titan (which is linked to the fact that she lived 13 years with the power of her titan)
This episode is just a masterpiece ❤
I just realized why Eren didn’t show Grisha Carla’s death.
How do you think he would have reacted when he saw his previous wife (whom he saw get turned into a Titan) eat his current wife, after what Dina said- I’ll make sure to find you.(or something along those lines.
So yes it was a mercy call from Eren.
Oh so that is why he didn't show Grisha the memory even though he would eventually find out about it
24:23 was pretty much like everyone's reaction after this episode
This is so epic !! I love this anime so much !!
All the support from your bro Big T
There's the Eren we know and love again.
since when did we ever love Eren
Been waiting for this episode for quite a while. The Rumbling was the greatest scene in the entire show imo. You two should check out the sub version of it due to better voice acting in my opinion
Or you could just watch someone else's reaction instead of trying to force these guys into doing something they can't
@@daurydavis3983 Oh look a genius. Alright here
1. I suggested they check it out for themselves, not forcing.
2. I never told them to film it, I just think they'd also enjoy the sub now that they've seen the full scene.
3. It is certainly very doable, the scene is on TH-cam, by itself, subbed, and uncut with at least a few million views.
4. I'm sharing my opinion with them and anyone who reads it cause I can
5. Shut up
@@gamerdude7481 or people who obviously don't listen never want to think that not everyone has/want to react to sub, people are allowed to watch dub if they want. They don't need cultists like you telling them nonstop to watch to watch sub. You want the stupid sub go watch it, let these guys watch however they want
@@daurydavis3983 True, it gets kind of annoying when people constantly tell dub watchers to listen to the sub.
7:00 fun fact eren Japanese VA had to recover his voice after that screaming, that's why in the next 3 episodes Eren didn't have any screen time
He was not seen in the manga as well
I completed the manga and man it made me realise humans can be incredibly evil , despite peace coming it never lasts long
Jokes on Eren. Those Titans aren’t going to just kill all the people but all the plants and animals as well. The ecological disaster will make the earth unlivable. The people of paradise will eventually die out as well.
Spoiler for the next few episodes
Floch's plan seemed to include that they will stay in the island rather than to go out and explore. If they really wished to explore, why not keep the Azumabito? And besides they can just raise more cattle and farm like they've always done inside the walls.
But i think major vegetation on paradise would live and they can cultivate crops. it would be really difficult for them for 5 or 6 years with limited food supply. but considering this situation, there is a considerable decrease in the paradise population as well. the steaming of the collosals is only started in the sea. so there is only trampling damage,not steam damage in paradise island ecosystem.
They have survived being isolated for a long time. It should be "fine", I guess. Probably not in the best shape.
They have plants and animals on Paradis. They can also (re)introduce plants/wildlife from Paradis to the rest of the world. You just need time after that, something that the maybe a million or so people on Paradis will have compared to a fairly empty world
theres a short clip out there on youtube that shows how much time passed for someone like gabi. As soon as gabi shot erens head, causing it to land on zekes hand, is when the walls came down. It was literally in an instant and its so fascinating. Also, Demon Slayer please!
That was so awesome!
The significant of white flower is genuine because it has a nine peatls with only one with blood. It's a reference for nine titans and one of them is sacrificing himself which is an attack titan. There is no freedom freely without suffer. That's the Pov
This episode is best to watch in japanese because the voiceacting is just outstanding! I recommend sub!! 👍🏾
Than watch it in Japanese yourself
@@daurydavis3983 Just a recommendation 😂😂😂
The curse of Ymir... Dying at 13 to a spear because she finally wanted to rest and be free. Even when saving her king's life, she was still called a slave. What's really horrifying is that she died at 13 with children who seemed like they were around 3 years old. The king is a monster. 😢
I think it was 13 years after she got the power of the titans
I love it that the main character is becoming the villain of the story
*Young Erwin Smith:* "But how can we know there's not people living somewhere beyond the Walls?"
*Present Eren Yeager:* "Just give me a week or two, then you'll know."