The moving map display that you are talking about in this plane was the ASN-99 PMDS Projected Map Display System. It used a 21 foot long, 35mm film to hold the sectional charts that were displayed on the PMDS Display Unit. This tape also held emergency procedures. The ASN-99 replaced the ASN-67 Roller Map Computer which required the pilots to cut long strips of sectionals and roll them up and stick them on the Roller Map Computer. The ASN-99 was light years ahead of that old system. I worked on the A-7A, B, TA-7C and the E models. The C and E models were tremendously advanced from the A and B models in every way as far as electronics are concerned. He mentioned that the displays were all analog but the electronics were mostly digital with the analog readouts. This was really a nice video to watch. Have a nice day. C. Jeff Dyrek, Webmaster.
They has a small “flight line” of A-7s fresh back from the Gulf at Millington Naval Training Center. It’s what we did our engine turn and operation with in AD school. Did the Engine change evolution on an old F-4.
I was an electronica warfare technician in the air National Guard at Kirtland Air Force Base and worked on this plane for several years up till 1989. Then this exact plane in this video was on static display at an airshow here and I have a photo of me sitting in it, plus my signature is in the back end where you see all those other signatures. Awesome video that I stumbled across by accident.
I saw this display on a trailer and took pictures of it in a shopping center in Saraland Alabama a couple of years ago. I was going to try and talk to the person towing it but they left before I got the chance. Cool to see it here.
This was the plane, (A7-D), that i worked on at England AFB from 1974-1977. I was in Avionics Aerospace Ground Equipment 23rd AMS squadron. Loved the plane and the base.
A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it . I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2 engines. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
I worked in the 4450th in 1980. 295 was my bird until I transffered out the the range to work on the F-117. She was a great bird. The very first A-7D I crewed 1344 became the very first After Burner A-7D stretched and is now on display out at Edwards I believe. Thanks for the memories.
Awesome video! The A7 Corsair was what taught me 3D thinking when I was a youngin'...1/72nd scale Revell model, the pilots' hands were placed for HOTAS and his head was turned to the left...while "flying" the plane I realized that he was looking at the ground when banking to the left, which meant if he turned his head he would see sky, and vice-versa. I still have the body-memory of the exhilaration of being able to see in that 3 dimensional world. ❤️ the A7, and anything that flies!
From what I know the A-7 was built to replace the Navy's Douglas A-4 Skyhawk which was great attack aircraft albeit smaller. The A-4 was a simpler cheaper aircraft. The A-7 carried considerable amount if internal fuel and had either the P&W TF30 turbofan (the non afterburning version of the F-14s engine) or the Allison built TF41 (Rolls Royce) Spey. The A-7 had a very advanced avionics as the narrator said to enable very accurate navigation and precision attack utilising just about every air to ground weapon the Navy and Air Force had at the time. Like i said the aircraft carried a large amount of internal fuel and with its efficient engine, it had great range and endurance. In Air Force use in Vietnam, due to its endurance, it replaced the old piston engine Douglas A-1 Skyraider used in Sandy missions in rescue of downed pilots. Many times A-7s didnt fly with external fuel tanks due to the extra drag caused greater fuel consumption. Ive seen. A-7s sometimes flying with one external fuel tank. The A-7 had a radar that had a terrain avoidance feature that enabled very low level flight and cued the pilot of terrain ahead. Even though it was a subsonic attack aircraft and not a fighter, it had some very advanced features and was ahead of its time.
The plane had a primitive film based map display,nothing to do with GPS early tech,35 mm film strips of the area with they were too operate and it moved based on the INS nav system of the plane,also varying on the model the radar and map display were the same,it also depending on model could carry a IR pod and displayed IR imaging on the head up display for low altitude navigation and targeting.
I might have sat in that cockpit before. I was a INS tech at England from early 80-81. Changed many of those map displays when they went to red flag at Nellis. England was the original home of the Flying Tigers and were the only aircraft to wear the sharks teeth. They put them on the A10's when they switched over
Agree with Cesar, The location was given by the Inertial Measurement System and the Navigational Computer. Remember Compass Rose calibration and swapping out the PMDS Cassettes for different locations?
@@jimjones6657 Ive lived in Alexandria for close to 45 years. Im about to turn 49 in March. I remember seeing these fly over my house and when they replaced by the A-10. Was a sad day for us when they closed EAFB. Here a few years ago, myself and a few friends got to explore one of the 3 story dorms close to the old post gym awhile back. Some of the rooms had relics of the mid to late 80's. Even found a sign in/out sheet that was dated back to around 1989. Also found a complete pool table in one of the rec rooms.
Trivia question; What USAF attack aircraft used the same HUD as the A7 Corsair? What aircraft used the same HUD as the F16C? What aircraft used the same gunsight as the F100 Super Saber? Answer: The AC130H, the AC130H,U, et.al., the AC130A.
I crewed the second A7D in the Air Force, it was the CAT 3 test of the acft. it was at Luke AFB in glendale az. We got the acft from the mfg. It was a lot of fun. we got to prove it could what the mfg. sain it could do. The first squadron was at Luke AFB and it went to davis monthan AFB in tucson az where the first acft crashes on approach to dm and the second one ran out of fuel on the runway. the cockpit was only for one pilot at the time. With all that it passed the cat III test.that was back in 1969. It had a simple ins sys on it witch had to align for 45 min. to set up.
During 1967/68 I worked plane Captain eXp flight test at LTV on the A and D model. We lost one in Alabama due to fuel contamination, this place was the best I loved doing engine run. The tf41 had the power. The inflight fueling was done back and above the pilot for the Air Force. Those were the days. The plant and Dallas navel air were connected we had F8 sitting beside the A7 . One day a piloted missed the arresting cable went off the end of the runway he hit the injection seat sorry to say we lost him. I could tell stories all night long. I won't though
Good memories here. I was an in-shop jet engine mechanic on the A-7D assigned to the 23rd Component Repair Squadron (23 CRS) at England AFB, LA. from 1976 to 1980. Go Flying Tigers!
77-81 23rd AGS and Support. I had to deal with Chief Kretzinger or however you want to spell it. We had a mutual dislike. However I usually won our confrontations due to my pilot friends and others I knew. We were actually okay by the time I left Alexandria. But I really enjoyed my adventures with the A-7 and they hold a special place in my heart unlike the Warthog, I never got a chance to get use to them.
@@anthonyreid2934 Sorry, doesn't ring a bell with me. Were these your cars? FYI, the car I had was a brown Triumph Spitfire 1500.Also I think I know the Chief you were talking about earlier. One night a SSgt from AGS came over to our shop to borrow our tug. Found out later he and the Chief used it to steal a 50 gal barrel of oil (for the Chief).
354th TFW Myrtle Beach AFB Veteran myself from 1974 - 1976 as an automatic flight controls system specialist on A7Ds. Basically power steering and auto pilot system on the plane. War Bird Park at the entrance of the now closed AFB has an A7D on display along with an A10 and some Sabres/Super Sabres.
@@keithsurdyke2535: I was at Myrtle Beach (354th OMS), from December 1974 till November 1977 as a Crew Chief... Worked in Charlie (Green) Section... Was trained on aircraft 241 and 242, became Primary Crew Chief on 990, and Assistant Crew Chief on 994. Reenlisted and got a BOP to Scott AFB IL., working Phase Dock and Flightline on the C-9A, T-39A and C-140A Jet Star.
When I was in the Ohio Air Reserves on one Summer camp, I had a chance to fly in the simulator. It was on stilts with a bubble surrounding the sim that projected a 3D image. Quite and experience.
Thanks Brother Erik, I TOO, am passionate explaining everything about my ship CV64 as you are towards A7. You are correct A7 was a GREAT AIRCRAFT. I use to be confused between the F8 and A7 until I served in USN. What is weird, I always thought the A7 was cooler than the A6 (the bug) and then find out the A7 had limited capabilities to the A6, please say this isn't so. No matter, both the A6 and A7 I have nothing but respect, especially to the POWs A6 / A7 crews. Thank You for posting BROTHER.
wasn't built in Fort Worth....Vought was at Navy Dallas (which was in Grand Prairie :) ) regarding Crusader...Vought rebuilt a number of them for Phillipine Air Force. one pf them being a 2 person trainer. A Phillipine senior officer crashed the "Two-sador" which made transitioning the remaining pilots learn the hard way.
Correction: the F-8 was supersonic (first - and only - aircraft to exceed Mach 1 in level flight on its MAIDEN flight). Also, the A-7's subsonic status was not due to the size of its intake. It was designed to be a subsonic bomb truck from its inception. The F-8, by contrast, was designed to be a pure supersonic fighter from Day One. Both were Navy requirements in their respective Request For Proposals (RFPs).
I have once read a book that said that the A-7 and F-8 had the same airframe. But, at NAS Lemoore, the A-7s fit into the hangars where the F-8 was so much longer that we had to keep the hanger doors slightly open because the nose would stick out far enough to where we couldn't fit the plane in the hanger without pushing the plane into the fire lane. After seeing how long the F-8 was and then reading in the book that they had the same airframe, I couldn't see where the extra length came from, there was something different than just a different nose cone. Thanks for posting, now I know that my suspicions were right about the length. Have a nice day.
The guy clearly said the a7 was based on the f8. This is true. The engineers used much of the design of the airframe as a base for the a7. If you look, you can find several photos of them side by side and the similarities are evident. Not the same plane, just cousins.
He did not say that it was “based off”, he said it was “built off” of the F-8 platform, wich can be taken in different context when discussing, while most would interpret it as directly building the A-7 off the F8 . And when he said that, indeed it threw me off. The 2 are indeed related but entirely different airframes completely. A side by side comparison is like night and day, with only the obvious similarities standing out.
I had the pleasure to work on this A-7D at England AFB where I was stationed from 1972 - 1976 with the 23rd FMS. As a jet engine mechanic was trained to ground start and preform run up at the trim pad for engine trim and maintenance runs. An oil consumption run would last up to 2 hours in 30 minute intervals. It got hot in Louisiana ... did I mention the aircraft had A/C.....LOL
iirc, the reason Pres Reagan released GPS technology to the public was because the USSR shot down a passenger jet which had wandered off course by a significant distance, resulting in all lives lost. Releasing GPS (with an appropriate degradation of accuracy, from a few meters to perhaps 50 meters) allowed for safe travel near countries with a less-than-hospitable attitude.
This is awesome These Cold War planes are just so much cooler and more interesting that the all-digital stuff, IMO. Is there a longer version that isn't edited?
Dumb question for those of you in the know: Is it possible for civilians to buy these planes, refurbish, and fly like the old WW2 planes? Also, I saw a F86 Sabre at the Sioux Falls airshow and I think it is privately owned? Just wondering, thanks.
Furthermore, the F-8 which preceded the A-7 by a decade, had a rudimentary HUD (though it was not called that) which displayed the gunsight pipper. A similar setup was found on the much older (early fifties) F-86.
...then it's not a HUD but a gunsight. Literally the same as WW2 planes, just slighly more stuff you could do with the pipper such as ground-attack modes in later variants of the F-86. For HUD to be HUD it has to display all data necessary for flight. IE Speed, altitude, attitude.
No You set the wingspan directly on the knob on the bottom of it. Then twist the throttle handle to fit it to the visual size of target and select range that way. forum.largescalemodeller.com/uploads/monthly_2018_11/4.jpg.a89de6d9c055bb556e1e24be05b90315.jpg
ME to on NE 17th street The A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it =, the F8 has a after burner. I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the WE worked on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
I noticed the f16 has a bubble type canopy with no bracing to obstruct the pilots view. It seems all other planes do have obstructions. Does anyone know what's up with this?
A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it =, the F8 has a after burner. I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the WE worked on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
Dork. They were not the same airframe. The presenter is not accurate. My grandfather worked in the LTV plant during the assembly of both the A-7 and F-8.
The name "Corsair" was peculiar to aircraft manufactured by the Chance Vought Corporation. The first Corsair was a biplane, the O2U; another aircraft by Vought, the famous F4U Corsair, gained fame in World War II; the A-7 was dubbed the "Corsair II". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_Corsair
The moving map display that you are talking about in this plane was the ASN-99 PMDS Projected Map Display System. It used a 21 foot long, 35mm film to hold the sectional charts that were displayed on the PMDS Display Unit. This tape also held emergency procedures. The ASN-99 replaced the ASN-67 Roller Map Computer which required the pilots to cut long strips of sectionals and roll them up and stick them on the Roller Map Computer. The ASN-99 was light years ahead of that old system. I worked on the A-7A, B, TA-7C and the E models. The C and E models were tremendously advanced from the A and B models in every way as far as electronics are concerned. He mentioned that the displays were all analog but the electronics were mostly digital with the analog readouts. This was really a nice video to watch. Have a nice day. C. Jeff Dyrek, Webmaster.
They has a small “flight line” of A-7s fresh back from the Gulf at Millington Naval Training Center. It’s what we did our engine turn and operation with in AD school. Did the Engine change evolution on an old F-4.
I was an electronica warfare technician in the air National Guard at Kirtland Air Force Base and worked on this plane for several years up till 1989.
Then this exact plane in this video was on static display at an airshow here and I have a photo of me sitting in it, plus my signature is in the back end where you see all those other signatures. Awesome video that I stumbled across by accident.
I saw this display on a trailer and took pictures of it in a shopping center in Saraland Alabama a couple of years ago. I was going to try and talk to the person towing it but they left before I got the chance. Cool to see it here.
I was a Plane Captain A7 Corsair // VAQ34.These planes are a beast.Beat the shit out of it and keep flying.These aircraft shined in Vietnam....
A7-D Corsair II, 71-75. Vietnam, Korat AFB , Thailand. Love this video.
I was in 23rd AMS 1974-1977. Loved England AFB.
I met these guys on the road in wyoming as they fueled. Very approachable and willing to share. Thanks guys.
Thank you sir for the presentation and preservation of a beautiful aircraft
This was the plane, (A7-D), that i worked on at England AFB from 1974-1977. I was in Avionics Aerospace Ground Equipment 23rd AMS squadron. Loved the plane and the base.
A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it . I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2 engines. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
A-7 and F-8 are totally different airframes. Look similar LTV engineer
I met this guy at Wings Over Houston this past weekend. He’s really smart and knows his stuff.
I worked in the 4450th in 1980. 295 was my bird until I transffered out the the range to work on the F-117. She was a great bird. The very first A-7D I crewed 1344 became the very first After Burner A-7D stretched and is now on display out at Edwards I believe. Thanks for the memories.
You worked out at the Groom facility?
Yes I did for 3 years but I started out at Nellis working this particular A-7.
Bullshit you did and I can prove it
Awesome video! The A7 Corsair was what taught me 3D thinking when I was a youngin'...1/72nd scale Revell model, the pilots' hands were placed for HOTAS and his head was turned to the left...while "flying" the plane I realized that he was looking at the ground when banking to the left, which meant if he turned his head he would see sky, and vice-versa.
I still have the body-memory of the exhilaration of being able to see in that 3 dimensional world.
❤️ the A7, and anything that flies!
From what I know the A-7 was built to replace the Navy's Douglas A-4 Skyhawk which was great attack aircraft albeit smaller. The A-4 was a simpler cheaper aircraft. The A-7 carried considerable amount if internal fuel and had either the P&W TF30 turbofan (the non afterburning version of the F-14s engine) or the Allison built TF41 (Rolls Royce) Spey. The A-7 had a very advanced avionics as the narrator said to enable very accurate navigation and precision attack utilising just about every air to ground weapon the Navy and Air Force had at the time. Like i said the aircraft carried a large amount of internal fuel and with its efficient engine, it had great range and endurance. In Air Force use in Vietnam, due to its endurance, it replaced the old piston engine Douglas A-1 Skyraider used in Sandy missions in rescue of downed pilots. Many times A-7s didnt fly with external fuel tanks due to the extra drag caused greater fuel consumption. Ive seen. A-7s sometimes flying with one external fuel tank. The A-7 had a radar that had a terrain avoidance feature that enabled very low level flight and cued the pilot of terrain ahead. Even though it was a subsonic attack aircraft and not a fighter, it had some very advanced features and was ahead of its time.
the A7 could carry twice the load of a A4 the same distance, or the same load twice the distance.
The plane had a primitive film based map display,nothing to do with GPS early tech,35 mm film strips of the area with they were too operate and it moved based on the INS nav system of the plane,also varying on the model the radar and map display were the same,it also depending on model could carry a IR pod and displayed IR imaging on the head up display for low altitude navigation and targeting.
True.
I might have sat in that cockpit before. I was a INS tech at England from early 80-81. Changed many of those map displays when they went to red flag at Nellis. England was the original home of the Flying Tigers and were the only aircraft to wear the sharks teeth. They put them on the A10's when they switched over
Agree with Cesar, The location was given by the Inertial Measurement System and the Navigational Computer. Remember Compass Rose calibration and swapping out the PMDS Cassettes for different locations?
called the PMDS ( Projected Map Display System)
@@jimjones6657 Ive lived in Alexandria for close to 45 years. Im about to turn 49 in March. I remember seeing these fly over my house and when they replaced by the A-10. Was a sad day for us when they closed EAFB. Here a few years ago, myself and a few friends got to explore one of the 3 story dorms close to the old post gym awhile back. Some of the rooms had relics of the mid to late 80's. Even found a sign in/out sheet that was dated back to around 1989. Also found a complete pool table in one of the rec rooms.
Tremendous Info.. My 1st pick then, F-8 and the B-One are my favorites.
Trivia question; What USAF attack aircraft used the same HUD as the A7 Corsair? What aircraft used the same HUD as the F16C? What aircraft used the same gunsight as the F100 Super Saber? Answer: The AC130H, the AC130H,U, et.al., the AC130A.
I crewed the second A7D in the Air Force, it was the CAT 3 test of the acft. it was at Luke AFB in glendale az. We got the acft from the mfg. It was a lot of fun. we got to prove it could what the mfg. sain it could do. The first squadron was at Luke AFB and it went to davis monthan AFB in tucson az where the first acft crashes on approach to dm and the second one ran out of fuel on the runway. the cockpit was only for one pilot at the time. With all that it passed the cat III test.that was back in 1969. It had a simple ins sys on it witch had to align for 45 min. to set up.
During 1967/68 I worked plane Captain eXp flight test at LTV on the A and D model. We lost one in Alabama due to fuel contamination, this place was the best I loved doing engine run. The tf41 had the power. The inflight fueling was done back and above the pilot for the Air Force. Those were the days. The plant and Dallas navel air were connected we had F8 sitting beside the A7 . One day a piloted missed the arresting cable went off the end of the runway he hit the injection seat sorry to say we lost him. I could tell stories all night long. I won't though
Good memories here. I was an in-shop jet engine mechanic on the A-7D assigned to the 23rd Component Repair Squadron (23 CRS) at England AFB, LA. from 1976 to 1980. Go Flying Tigers!
77-81 23rd AGS and Support. I had to deal with Chief Kretzinger or however you want to spell it. We had a mutual dislike. However I usually won our confrontations due to my pilot friends and others I knew. We were actually okay by the time I left Alexandria. But I really enjoyed my adventures with the A-7 and they hold a special place in my heart unlike the Warthog, I never got a chance to get use to them.
@@anthonyreid2934 I was INS in blue section from 80-81. Fun times on that aircraft. Our PITA was 2nd Lt kelly
Does anyone recall that Canary Yellow 66 Impala or the 73 Dodge Charger,Baby Blue???
@@anthonyreid2934 Sorry, doesn't ring a bell with me. Were these your cars? FYI, the car I had was a brown Triumph Spitfire 1500.Also I think I know the Chief you were talking about earlier. One night a SSgt from AGS came over to our shop to borrow our tug. Found out later he and the Chief used it to steal a 50 gal barrel of oil (for the Chief).
I was in 23rd AMS 1974-1977. Loved England AFB.
Thanks for the informative video! The cockpit looks awesome, pity that the rest of the airplane is gone.
I worked on the A-7Ds at Myrtle Beach, Korat, Davis Monthan, England, and Nellis for most of my years in the USAF from 1970-1994. Fantastic aircraft.
Hey brother when were you at EAFB and what section? I was there Jan78-Dec81 and Blue section
@@jimjones6657 I was there from 79 to 81. I was in AMS.
354th TFW Myrtle Beach AFB Veteran myself from 1974 - 1976 as an automatic flight controls system specialist on A7Ds. Basically power steering and auto pilot system on the plane. War Bird Park at the entrance of the now closed AFB has an A7D on display along with an A10 and some Sabres/Super Sabres.
@@keithsurdyke2535: I was at Myrtle Beach (354th OMS), from December 1974 till November 1977 as a Crew Chief... Worked in Charlie (Green) Section... Was trained on aircraft 241 and 242, became Primary Crew Chief on 990, and Assistant Crew Chief on 994. Reenlisted and got a BOP to Scott AFB IL., working Phase Dock and Flightline on the C-9A, T-39A and C-140A Jet Star.
The A-5 ( RA-5 ) was the first aircraft to have a HUD, back in 1958.
This was the first US aircraftt to have a HUD. The first HUD was fitted to the Royal Navy Blackburn Buccaneer S1
I was plane captain on this plane ! Excellent aircraft.
When I was in the Ohio Air Reserves on one Summer camp, I had a chance to fly in the simulator. It was on stilts with a bubble surrounding the sim that projected a 3D image. Quite and experience.
Thanks Brother Erik, I TOO, am passionate explaining everything about my ship CV64 as you are towards A7. You are correct A7 was a GREAT AIRCRAFT. I use to be confused between the F8 and A7 until I served in USN. What is weird, I always thought the A7 was cooler than the A6 (the bug) and then find out the A7 had limited capabilities to the A6, please say this isn't so. No matter, both the A6 and A7 I have nothing but respect, especially to the POWs A6 / A7 crews. Thank You for posting BROTHER.
Thx for sharing this vid! The corsair II is by far my favorite aircraft that ever used on vietnam :P
Thanks for the tour.I love this aircraft no matter if she’s a Navy or Air-force bird.👍
First aircraft I worked on eas the A-7D. This aircraft was from England afb Louisiana home of the FLYING TIGERS!!!
my dad was in the navy during the mid 80's and he was an aviation structural mechanic, he worked on the E model
Love that plane...Ray Burton , former Plane Captain VA37 BULLS.
I've personally met this man along with this exact A-7 cockpit.
Awesome looking jet. I like the Air Force version of this jet. I also like the F-8 Crusader, but it's Navy.
Very nice my friend,, always safe the ejector seat and guns as first step in decommissioned ships.
One could compare the A/7 with the F/86.
the A7 did not share the same airframe with the F8 crusader. two compketely gbb different airframes.
wasn't built in Fort Worth....Vought was at Navy Dallas (which was in Grand Prairie :) ) regarding Crusader...Vought rebuilt a number of them for Phillipine Air Force. one pf them being a 2 person trainer. A Phillipine senior officer crashed the "Two-sador" which made transitioning the remaining pilots learn the hard way.
Correction: the F-8 was supersonic (first - and only - aircraft to exceed Mach 1 in level flight on its MAIDEN flight). Also, the A-7's subsonic status was not due to the size of its intake. It was designed to be a subsonic bomb truck from its inception. The F-8, by contrast, was designed to be a pure supersonic fighter from Day One. Both were Navy requirements in their respective Request For Proposals (RFPs).
I have once read a book that said that the A-7 and F-8 had the same airframe. But, at NAS Lemoore, the A-7s fit into the hangars where the F-8 was so much longer that we had to keep the hanger doors slightly open because the nose would stick out far enough to where we couldn't fit the plane in the hanger without pushing the plane into the fire lane. After seeing how long the F-8 was and then reading in the book that they had the same airframe, I couldn't see where the extra length came from, there was something different than just a different nose cone. Thanks for posting, now I know that my suspicions were right about the length. Have a nice day.
The guy clearly said the a7 was based on the f8. This is true. The engineers used much of the design of the airframe as a base for the a7. If you look, you can find several photos of them side by side and the similarities are evident. Not the same plane, just cousins.
He did not say that it was “based off”, he said it was “built off” of the F-8 platform, wich can be taken in different context when discussing, while most would interpret it as directly building the A-7 off the F8 . And when he said that, indeed it threw me off. The 2 are indeed related but entirely different airframes completely. A side by side comparison is like night and day, with only the obvious similarities standing out.
I had the pleasure to work on this A-7D at England AFB where I was stationed from 1972 - 1976 with the 23rd FMS. As a jet engine mechanic was trained to ground start and preform run up at the trim pad for engine trim and maintenance runs. An oil consumption run would last up to 2 hours in 30 minute intervals. It got hot in Louisiana ... did I mention the aircraft had A/C.....LOL
77 to 81 23rd AGS and Support and Logistics.
England AF BASE Alexandria La.
iirc, the reason Pres Reagan released GPS technology to the public was because the USSR shot down a passenger jet which had wandered off course by a significant distance, resulting in all lives lost. Releasing GPS (with an appropriate degradation of accuracy, from a few meters to perhaps 50 meters) allowed for safe travel near countries with a less-than-hospitable attitude.
I wish people who display things for a living would take the time to do the research that would give them accurate information
Great salvage! Thanks for sharing this.
This is awesome These Cold War planes are just so much cooler and more interesting that the all-digital stuff, IMO. Is there a longer version that isn't edited?
You should convert it for street use and drive it around . You would look so cool going through the Taco Bell drive through !! 🍺 😎 👍
Awesome video as always!
+David Halligan Thanks for watching it, glad you liked it.
SLUF - Slow Little Ugly Fellow except a different word was used instead of Fellow but trying to maintain a G rating.
I understand but two different a6' s. The early one( corsair ) and the later one( intruder). Both good planes and both served the same type purpose.
Dumb question for those of you in the know: Is it possible for civilians to buy these planes, refurbish, and fly like the old WW2 planes? Also, I saw a F86 Sabre at the Sioux Falls airshow and I think it is privately owned? Just wondering, thanks.
The first HUD was in the British Blackburn Buccaneer, 10 years before the A-7 was operational.
Furthermore, the F-8 which preceded the A-7 by a decade, had a rudimentary HUD (though it was not called that) which displayed the gunsight pipper. A similar setup was found on the much older (early fifties) F-86.
...then it's not a HUD but a gunsight. Literally the same as WW2 planes, just slighly more stuff you could do with the pipper such as ground-attack modes in later variants of the F-86.
For HUD to be HUD it has to display all data necessary for flight. IE Speed, altitude, attitude.
Lmao
>lock a target
>tell it how many engines it has
lmao
that's not even how it works... Not to mention it was a TEST sight. Nowhere near a standard.
No
You set the wingspan directly on the knob on the bottom of it. Then twist the throttle handle to fit it to the visual size of target and select range that way.
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just like here
Thanks.
Awesome
used to put me to sleep in Grand Prairie Texas LTV testing the engines all night long
ME to on NE 17th street The A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it =, the F8 has a after burner. I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the WE worked on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
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I noticed the f16 has a bubble type canopy with no bracing to obstruct the pilots view. It seems all other planes do have obstructions. Does anyone know what's up with this?
Dewey!!!!
The difference between the A-7 and F-8 are way more than what you pointed out. The A-7 is stubbier. Thge F-8 is long annd sleek.
A7D was the Air force model it had the TF 41 engine in it =, the F8 has a after burner. I grew up north of LTV and would watch the F8 fly around the area. Later in life I worked in flight test at LTV in 1969/1972. I was a Mech on the WE worked on the A7 A and the A7 D. I ran a lot of engine test on both engines the TF 41 a1 and the TF41 a2. I sent many a A7 of from the Dallas Navel Air Station, LTV used their runway, During one of my runs I had a ground stall that blew the turban blade tips off the A2 engine
No armament control on the cowl and no ecm control displays, was this intentional?
A7 Corsair II VA122 NAS LEM 68-70
Why would 5 people dislike this video.
Nice
+PacificGaming101 Good to see you again, glad you liked it.
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Fly low hit hard H.A.F
Yeah, too bad they pixled out Araxos, Greece on Google Earth. I used to look @ all the retired airframes.
"very easy airplane to fly" ??? Maybe in the bombing pattern.
I think not during recovery aboard the ship.
Dork. They were not the same airframe. The presenter is not accurate. My grandfather worked in the LTV plant during the assembly of both the A-7 and F-8.
mig 17 had HUD you are wrong
Low and fast.
lol.......not fast
What about the a6 corsair?
I believe the A-6 Intruder is what to are referring to! Aslo a Prowler version of the A-6 was used as well .
The name "Corsair" was peculiar to aircraft manufactured by the Chance Vought Corporation. The first Corsair was a biplane, the O2U; another aircraft by Vought, the famous F4U Corsair, gained fame in World War II; the A-7 was dubbed the "Corsair II". See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vought_Corsair