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Tune an Antenna Using a NanoVNA
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video we show how to tune an antenna’s standing wave ratio (SWR) using a NanoVNA. This is an economical alternative to a full antenna analyzer and can be used to ensure the antenna is resonant at a desired frequency.
Topics and timestamps:
0:00 - Introduction
2:56 - Unboxing the NanoVNA
6:41 - The antenna
9:07 - Setting up traces on the NanoVNA
15:00 - Calibrating the NanoVNA
17:00 - Tuning the antenna
20:31 - Conclusions
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You have to calibrate the NanoVNA every time you change frequency range, and to do measurement of the antenna, and not the the antenna + the coax cable, the calibration have to be done on same reference (end of coax) as the antenna.
ok, here I have a question now! Shouldn't you include the cable in the measurement/tuning? Background: I made some 2.4GHz antennas for WIFI, I took some 433 MHz helix, pulled it a little and cut it down while looking at the reflection chart. This worked kinda great (except that the down peak was kinda tight which influences the bandwidth).
But after attaching the tuned antennas to a SMA cable and connecting this to the WIFI µFL connector, the result wasn't that good anymore.
I think I should have measured including the SMA cable because of its influence. Or am I wrong?
Beside that, I think it would be best to measure/tune everything when it is connected to the WIFI module, but I still have to find out how to achive this. Soldering a simple cable to the µFL connector and attach the VNA to it probably is no real solution. But this is what I try to find out currently.
@@dokatecdev5858 To my knowledge Is the reference point (plane), where the measurement will be done. If the goal is to measure an antenna (DUT device under test), the calibration have to be done on the same plug/cable where the antenna (dut) will be connected to be measured.
Same apply to all measurements with a VNA, to what ever one want to measure. Calibration have to be done on same plane as the DUT will be measured. If the VNA is calibrated at the connector and then connected to a long lossy coax and an antenna, the VNA is not able to tell the coax and antenna appart, and the coax+ antenna are the DUT. At times the interest is how an antenna system included cables is behaving, then all the system is DUT.
If there is need for adapters, there will influence, but as long the wavelength is less than 1/10 of a 1/4 wavelength at frequency of interest, it don't influence in layman's term.
Hope it clarifies your question.
I understand that if the feedline radiates RF, you're going to have problems but what is the issue with calibrating the NanoVNA using your feedline, then tuning the antenna with the feedline connected to the antenna? Since your radio is going to use the feedline, shouldn't it be taken into account while adjusting the antenna?
Save your settings in memory, works for me. Exam: 10m, 6m, 2m, 440
Agreed. He needs to calibrate with the coax cable on the VNA, and hook up the short/Open/50Ohms to the end of the coax for calibration.
Thank you for the info
Always log mag. Forget SWR - it is much less useful and readable than return loss. And you should have done the cal at the far end of the connection cable. Always calibrate as close to the item yuou are checking as possible
Thanks for sharing. Would be good to do some simulation to see what the optimum antenna length is, and whether it matches what you got.
I just ordered cmy VNA, so looking forward to checking my J-Pole I made to see where it sits for 2M, the digital SWR meter I also have says its currently at a 1:1 so we shall see soon. Great video, thanks
Sounds like fun, thanks for watching!
Did you cut from each radial or just from active element?
QUESTION. How do use a nano outdoors? Next to impossible to read I have found.
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I am interested in EE related content (antenna, control, DSP) but that is just me.
@@NFL_31258 That is perfect, I've actually got several videos planned in the future that cover some of these topics (mostly control and some RF discussions in the context of HAM radio). Hopefully I'll see you around at a future video!
19.4 inches or 19 inches, 11 mm at 144.39 MhZ without using the Nano?
great work mister thank you please mister can you share us the video of (Introduction to Linear State Estimation) please mister in need it
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you did not calibrate it.
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