I am learning history of my country Ukraine with his lectures. I am Ukrainian. I had classes of history of Soviet Union at school. History of Soviet comunist party at university. Only now I am discovering real tru history of my nation! Thank you Professor!
Full scale war is 8 month already and I still cannot believe it's happening with me. We all live like in an action movie and calling this war "genocide" helps to come to terms with reality💙💛 Recognition helps to start process the pain.
I recognise the injustice against your culture .My Country's people are helping many of yours because we know how wrong this war is .All reasonable people worldwide know this war is wrong and wish you the very best in detterring , defeating and surviving .
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
@@stephanyschneider5144 😂😂I am home. In America. American for 31 years. The new Republican House will start working soon. So, you will see two big differences (as they say in Odessa, soon-to-be-Russia again). 😁😁
Excellent analysis. I can also wholeheartedly recommend professor Snyder’s phenomenal narrative on Ukraine and its history in a series of lectures for the Yale University (they are here on YT, look for Yale channel). I wait for them every week like for the best series.
I have a master degree in history, I have been in many history classes in my life as a student but I have to say that prof. Snyder's class on Ukraine is simply amazing.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
Definitely my favorite Historian, one of my favorite Authors, and imo one of the greatest activists ever. He may not even see himself as an activist, but the way I see it, the quailty of the work he has done and the brilliant way he communicates it to the rest of the world are all highly effective acts of activism. Thank you Tim for teaching me so much and trying so hard to help people understand! I truly appreciate and respect your efforts! PS I love your Yale Courses being posted on YT. I can't comment on them of course, so I wanted to at least try to say so somewhere. Your jokes are great too btw ;-) Be Safe!!
I never expected to be able to attend Ivy League lectures completely for free and from my home in Germany. Thanks to Timothy Snyder for his invaluable insights into European and World history. It seems to be common sense that science and activism should be clearly separated, but I repeatedly can‘t help to find that respected scientists are the most credible activists we can hope to get.
@@mishaknopkin2199 And you are a slave of Russian propaganda. Follow his course on TH-cam “The making of modern Ukraine” you might learn something and liberate yourself from false propaganda.
Oh, I understand, and I think a lot of us do. Unfortunately, there are a number of powerful Americans who *like* genocide and want to do it here. I name no names.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it.
@@juliadizhak8397 Aren't Ukrainians on blame themselves? Till 2014 Ukrainian and Russian people in Ukraine were brotherly people. The President was pro-Russian and Russian Crimea was a part of Ukraine. In 2014 the situation changed 180 degrees. A group of Ukrainian nationalists from Western Ukraine (Stalin gave those lands to UkrSSR in 1945) with the help of us Americans, of course, made a state coup in 2014. Russian language (which used to be a regional language in Southern/Eastern regions) was forbidden at the official level. Banderas were forcing Russians and all Russian speaking to speak MOVA. In 8 years, the World has what had to be happened. Most of us Americans understand that people in East/South of Ukraine want to remain Russians and now it is possible only if they are part of Mother Russia. And now it happened for 4 regions. More to come.
@@mishaknopkin2199 I was on independence square in 2014. I saw everything! So don’t tell me your brain washed russian propaganda. You knew nothing about Ukraine. We don’t want any pro-russian president. As you have in russia tsar putin who already killed 70+ thousands of russian just because he wants to restore Soviet Union
One small correction: Wagner is not 'a private mercenary group', it is 'so called private mercenary group'. In fact it is illegal Putins army or smth: they fight with weapons that couldn't be in privare hands: like military aircrafts, tanks, air-defense systems, etc., they are trained on russian military bases
Excellent analysis. Russia has been showing the signs of genocidal intent for years now - an intent that they now are bringing into reality. I'm appalled by Germany's and Israel's indecisiveness in this crisis. They, more than most other countries, should have shown commitment to help Ukraine in these terrible times.
Yeah I would go as far as to say he knows what's up more than anyone probably even including most that are currently in the process of doing it do. I have been a fan of his work for a long time. Because of that I believe Inwas much better "equiped" for understanding what has been happening since it all started than Inwpuld have been otherwise. Seeing this sort of thing unfold rasies so many thoughts regardinghow much of our senseof the world and out place in it is based off of stories. Stories that change and have their meanings twisted as needed. Stories are like a universal language itself, but like any language, it can be manipulated. I really hope the right people are consulting with him. I know he will do anything he can to help no matter how much time he has to spend doing so.
@@Davidt1066 well, they did hesitate to help provide weapons and the issue with the gas which made the other NATO States that didn't seem to be out of step with them which could have been seen as instability withing NATO and emboldened wading in deeper....or at least seen that way by some. Clearly it's more complicated, but it could be argued as such. Israel on the other hand can't say anything since they are and have been in many ways basically doing the same thing imo. Hell, we in the US really can't either after Iraq, but we must since that is part of what Putin is counting on and it's the right thing to do whether or not we have always done the right thing. The whole "everyone is like this" thing is what putin banks on almost completely. Part of what Professor Snyder calls "the politics of eternity". I do believe that before we start calling for the ICC to prosecute, the US needs to at least acknowledge it and sign on, but ideally also stand trial for any crimes that it may be ducking by not signing onto it. That act, along with an apology would stop putin's narrative cold in its tracks and would do a lot to rebuild some trust in the world. Everyone knows what happened, it's not like refusing to admit it changes that, but it does say we feel we are above the law and legitimize that kind of behavior in people like putin. Everyone/entity makes mistakes trying to hide them just makes them worse, but dealing with them correctly is better than not making any at all...that is how you learn. Plus there would be no better time to stand trial when his crimes make the ones committed in Iraq etc plae in comparison. Here we have the values of "honesty, taking responsibility, and equality" etc. pounded into our heads from birth and have them associated with our Nation, but the Nation as a whole hardly ever lives up to them. In fact in many ways those individuals who are the most "successful" often do the opposite and are praised for it. If putin wants to say we "have no room to talk" he kinda can with merit. However, if we did that, then we could as we are now, but without "the base alloy of hypocrisy"
It is important to note (not that it justifies their approach!) Israel has a bit weird internal situation. They have a lot of Jews that are from former USSR. This part of population is frequently pro-Russian and is quite significant. Elections are coming in Israel, so no one will risk alienating big part of voters... As I said: it doesn't justify but it is explanation (well, part of it at least) and it's good to understand this.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
Яндекс-переводчик позволяет слушать англоязычные видео. А вы смешной что думаете что антироссийская пропаганда видится нами, русскими, менее лживой чем российская.
He's brilliant. I'm picking my way through Bloodlands, which is not easy, but also following his ongoing lecture series The Making of Modern Ukraine. He's damn good at what he does.
Excellent analysis, professor Snyder. You help us, Ukrainians, to understand what’s happening. Sometime it’s hard to see bold truth through the horrors of this time. Thank you! Your mission is tremendous.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
"Московия была воспитана и выросла в ужасной и гнусной школе монгольского рабства. Она усилилась только благодаря тому, что стала virtuoso в искусстве рабства. Даже после своего освобождения Московия продолжала играть свою традиционную роль раба, ставшего господином. Впоследствии Петр Великий сочетал политическое искусство монгольского раба с гордыми стремлениями монгольского властелина, которому Чингисхан завещал осуществить свой план завоевания мира.” (Карл Маркс)
Terrific (maybe “important” or “useful” to look up the definition in the 1948 Convention - thanks. Yes I have your books - they aren’t quick reads. I appreciate the clarity of your presentation.
I think that this great speech by Prof. Snider begs a question: We all understand that a genocide of Ukrainian people is taking place right now, so what you, as citizens of a civilized world, will do to stop it?
Many countries have supplied aid and weapons since the start of the war and will likely continue to do so until it ends. Many have also given refuge to fleeing civilians. It's also been talked about on the media many times What else can be done?
@@sbeast64 1. Stop any economic relations with Russia; 2. Actually provide weapons Ukraine requests (not done yet and with a lot of bureaucracy); 3. Ban visas for Russians; 4. Kick Russia out of the UN Security Council
@@sbeast64 And besides the steps mentioned -acknowledge Russia is a terrorist state. And kick it out of UN, too - not only Security Council, though it is more urgent. I actually am amazed at this helpless answer - you mean the collective West, the collective world cannot really do ANYTHING substantial to a clearly genocidal government?!
I’m afraid that such a question is unansweable by the collective “you citizens of a civilized world”. It can only be asked of and answered by individuals and by (some) governments. The problem, of course, is that governmental policy can change very quickly. Particularly in a democracy, governmem=nts have to weigh the likelihood of support by, not the people, but their elected representatives. In the U.S, those of us who support Ukraine worry what will happen to U.S. support if the Republican party wins the mid-term elections.
It can't *not* be clear. I read a Russian-language post whose official English translation was bad enough, but skipped the part where Ukraine was referred to as the "СалоРейх" -- SaloReich -- philosophically equivalent to calling the southwest section of Chicago "Chitling City", for example. You talk about places like that when you're saying that they shouldn't exist.
And pay also attention - reich. Russians are proud their so-called Victory Day, and since 2014 start write "we can repeat" not "this should not be repeated". Victory Day is their cargo cult. We are salo - so like pigs, not exactly humans. And we are reich - so they must take Reichstag like their grandfathers. Absolutely madness. 21 century man, 21 century.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
Videos like these should really come with Muscovite subtitles, so they can be distributed in Muscovy and serve as an antidote to the Moscow imperialist propaganda.
👏👍🇺🇲♥️🇺🇦❤️🩹💛💙🔱Thank you, Professor Snyder, for your insight and your challenge to the fashion of shallow dismissal that prevents the world from understanding, that Ukraine is the thin line between our free democratic world and the mordor of the putinland! My family and friends love your course on Ukraine vs ruzzian "empire". 🇺🇲♥️🇺🇦👍👏 щиро дякуємо! Слава Україні !
Who cares here in US. Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. But you are right that the actual Ukraine is the thin line. Most of the current Ukraine will be Russia and Poland. So only "thin" will be left. 😁😁
Дякую за відео. Хотів би зазначити, що зараз на ютубі на каналі Yale University публікують доволі цікаві лекції проф. Тімоі Снайдера про історію становлення сучасної України. Також варто ознайомитись з його короткою статтею Russia's genocide handbook.
The sheer amount of approving and rejoicing comments of ordinary Russians under videos of the atrocities committed against civilians in Ukraine were no less a shock for Ukrainians than the war itself. We have somehow got used to the war, but the realization of who we have been living next to all this time, without even knowing it, is still terrifying. Those creatures call themselves our brothers. Imagine what they would do to you who they call their enemies if you let them.
Professor Snyder's opinions can be understood better if you simply pick up a copy of his book "The Road to Unfreedom". Putin's beliefs and motivations have been strongly inspired by a twentieth century Russian fascist philosopher by the name of Ivan Ilyin. Timothy's book is an eye opener. Also his most recent Yale Courses on "The Making of Modern Ukraine" (found on TH-cam) have been a fantastic watch.
Thank you for your analysis. Russia has a lot to answer for and virtually every former Soviet state has a story to tell. Ukraine just happened to be Putin's idea fix so he went all in to take it. Russia (not just Putin) needs to admit its crimes or it will be eternally reborn as a fascist empire of some sort even after brief brief periods of adequacy.
I think that his assertions are valid as general observations, but let's recognize that these same elements of intent are often precursors to war, as a way of mitigating, or even justifying the invasion of another state. And it can be wondered whether genocide or military force is the dominant element. As evil as the russian state is, it's beyond dispute that the goal was to pull Ukraine back into Moscow's empire, and to preserve it for 'strategic depth.' By comparison, this very effect was achieved with Belarus by force of Lukachenko's dependence on Moscow. The underlying argument of Russian propaganda is that Ukrainians are really Russians who have been led astray by deviant elements within and external by (of course) the West. Also, to the extent that what looks like genocide has been ordered by the Kremlin, it can be interpreted as terrorism or at least a pressure tactic. The targeting of infrastructure, and of civilians, and even various war crimes - the rational goal of this would be to force capitulation by increasing the cost and the personal pain. By comparison, Chinese actions against Uigars can only be interpreted as a strategy of elimination.
.Glory то Ukraine ! 🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦 in yesterday's lecture, Snyder touched on topics that are the sphere of my professional interests - OUN, UPA, Polish-Ukrainian conflict. The approach chosen by the professor to present events "from a bird's eye view" is understandable, because we are talking about an audience that is not familiar with Ukrainian history. But even such a height does not remove the necessary attention to details "somewhere on the ground", otherwise the presented picture is not generalized, but distorted. In this lecture, Snyder repeated several times the previously voiced thesis that the OUN is an insignificant, marginal organization that had no influence on political life and would have remained unknown if not for the Second World War. Probably, that is why this organization was the target of attacks by the Polish and Soviet special services, the Germans considered it necessary to seek contacts with it. Therefore, legal political forces (in particular, the largest Ukrainian party UNDO mentioned in the lecture) considered the OUN a serious political competitor in domestic politics, and cooperated with the organization in foreign political actions, bringing information to the world about the crimes of the Polish or Soviet authorities. The UPA appears in the lecture not as a manifestation of the anti-German resistance movement, but as an instrument of ethnic cleansing of the Polish population. Polish actions against Ukrainians are marked with the phrase "there was also a Polish response" (and for some reason it is indicated - mainly in Galicia, but Kholmshchyna and Nadsiania, where the most mass killings of the Ukrainian civilian population took place, are not mentioned) Searching for the reasons for the confrontation, Snyder offers a strange chain of explanations: in 1939, after the fall of Poland, young Ukrainians went to serve in the Soviet militia, where they participated in repressions against the Poles (in Snyder's opinion, the main target for the Soviets was the Poles), then, after 1941, many of these Ukrainians joined the German police and participated in the extermination of Jews, then many of them joined the UPA and "having extermination experience" took on the Polish population. An interesting chain, but too far from reality - not so many young Ukrainians had the opportunity to join the Soviet militia, because Ukrainians were also the object of Soviet repression. Even fewer of these Ukrainians joined the German police after the Soviet retreat, mostly they were completely different people. And even fewer of those who were in the German police later joined the UPA - according to the estimates of modern researchers, there were several hundred such people among tens of thousands of insurgents. The probability of a certain number of young Ukrainians who have passed the entire path outlined by Snyder from the OUN through the Soviet militia to the German militia and then to the UPA is headed for zero. Presenting the creation of the UPA as an underground transition of experienced Soviet-German collaborators and thugs is an approach that will explain nothing to foreign audiences about the Ukrainian liberation movement, its connection with the current war with Russia, and its impact on this war. Next, Snyder mentions the deportation of over a million Poles (actually about 800,000) from the territory of Ukraine. The professor bypassed the deportation of Ukrainians from Poland in 1944-1946 (about half a million), mentioning only the "Visula" campaign. Of course, someone will say that these are only "small" details, but they form the general image that the historian presents to the audience. Snyder's purpose of the course of lectures was to explain the causes of the current war. According to the results of yesterday's lecture, his students are unlikely to understand the connection between the current struggle for independence and the century-old liberation movement. As well as why, for Putin, Ukrainians who are resisting are still "Banderivites", and Ukrainian soldiers in rebel Mazepinkas are still greeted with Banderiv's "Glory to Ukraine". P.S. The problem of the Polish-Ukrainian conflict is really complex, but I want to note for Mr. Snyder - there is not only Polish literature on this topic. I can recommend even an English-language one: Viatrovych V. The Gordian Knot: The Second Polish-Ukrainian War. 1942-1947.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
“The formula Muscovy + Ukraine = Russia does not feature in the Russians’ own version of their history; but it is fundamental.” (Norman Davies "Europe: A History")
🌬 Une conversation importante sur les évidentes intentions de la ru de pratiquer méthodiquement un génocide en Ukraine mais une conversation que je ne peux pas partager car elle est souillée par la pub. Ceci explique peut-être cela./
🇺🇲🇺🇦if you look at the map of areas covered by cell towers services, russia will look as a much smaller country, then its square milage and the world map's imposition suggest
This man tells us bulshit anyone who live in russia and observed this war with Ukraine carefully would be able to notice it. This man distorts the whole situation
What is chilling for me is that one can almost replace the name “Putin”with the “GOP” and be very close to a real analogy of what is happening today, and to many events right here in America.
The estimated death toll for Mariupol alone is 100k. In Palestine, the deaths over the past 70 years are at 30k. What they hell are you even talking about.
@@pawelstuglik4737 They literally lie every time they can. Objective reality is not important to them, they just do propaganda, I wouldn't even bother answering seriously to them like you did, you're totally right tho.
Thank you very much. Once again Professor Snyder delivers an educated take on events unfolding in the fog of war and propaganda. Who blew up the underseas pipeline and what was the motive? The attack on Kerch bridge, clearly by Ukraine, was a military strike but Russia says it was an act of terrorism even though very few were killed - meanwhile all the Russian attacks on schools, hospitals and civilian infrastructure have the "hiding Ukrainian military units" as the early rationale and now there isn't even a rationale for the civilian attacks other than revenge for the Kerch Bridge bombing - truck bomb most likely. It reminds me so much of the Soviet-Nazi propaganda drama over the massacre of the Polish officer prisoners in the Katyn Forest: the Germans did it says Stalin; later, the Germans dig up forensic evidence pointing to the Russians...the massacre by the NKVD took place in the spring of 1940 and the German "dig" in 1943. Yes, indeed, it takes courage for Professor Snyder to ask about the silence of the Israeli and German governments - and, I might add, their lack of actions as well to aid Ukraine. I do what I can to help here: williamrneil.substack.com/p/the-place-of-this-war-in-human-history - which is the talk given in Kyiv in September, along with Niall Ferguson, Professor Serhii Plokhy and Anne Applebaum.
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Ху*ня какая-то для нас Американцев.
Nobody’s supporting your propaganda, Nаzi sympathizer
@@staceycolangelo8940 Really? In our country Republicans came to power. So, there will be Zero support to VSU.
I am learning history of my country Ukraine with his lectures. I am Ukrainian. I had classes of history of Soviet Union at school. History of Soviet comunist party at university. Only now I am discovering real tru history of my nation! Thank you Professor!
Hes an expert on the shoah like dr. yosef mengele was an expert on the human anatomy.
Дякую, що додали версію без перекладу♥️
Як раз подумала про це♥️
Dr.Snyder-insightful, much appreciated
Full scale war is 8 month already and I still cannot believe it's happening with me. We all live like in an action movie and calling this war "genocide" helps to come to terms with reality💙💛 Recognition helps to start process the pain.
I recognise the injustice against your culture .My Country's people are helping many of yours because we know how wrong this war is .All reasonable people worldwide know this war is wrong and wish you the very best in detterring , defeating and surviving .
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
@@mishaknopkin2199
Haha, and was the help stopped? Go back home, Ivan!
@@stephanyschneider5144 😂😂I am home. In America. American for 31 years. The new Republican House will start working soon. So, you will see two big differences (as they say in Odessa, soon-to-be-Russia again). 😁😁
Mishap - that hasn’t aged well😂😂😂
Excellent analysis. I can also wholeheartedly recommend professor Snyder’s phenomenal narrative on Ukraine and its history in a series of lectures for the Yale University (they are here on YT, look for Yale channel). I wait for them every week like for the best series.
I wait for the lectures week over week as well. His clarity and engaging style helps give me a more holistic picture of Europe over the centuries.
Same here
Same!
I have a master degree in history, I have been in many history classes in my life as a student but I have to say that prof. Snyder's class on Ukraine is simply amazing.
Happy tuesday. 😄
Вподобайка на підтримку канала. Дякую, що виклали мовою оригіналу.
There should be charges raised in the World court. This should be sufficient to remove Russia from the UN security council as well.
The point of them being in the council was maintaining balance.
It failed.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
Definitely my favorite Historian, one of my favorite Authors, and imo one of the greatest activists ever. He may not even see himself as an activist, but the way I see it, the quailty of the work he has done and the brilliant way he communicates it to the rest of the world are all highly effective acts of activism. Thank you Tim for teaching me so much and trying so hard to help people understand! I truly appreciate and respect your efforts!
PS I love your Yale Courses being posted on YT. I can't comment on them of course, so I wanted to at least try to say so somewhere. Your jokes are great too btw ;-) Be Safe!!
Chase Z, your comment formulates my feelings exactly, and so succinctly. I'm loving the lectures too
I never expected to be able to attend Ivy League lectures completely for free and from my home in Germany. Thanks to Timothy Snyder for his invaluable insights into European and World history. It seems to be common sense that science and activism should be clearly separated, but I repeatedly can‘t help to find that respected scientists are the most credible activists we can hope to get.
He is not Historian. He is a Propagandist from the Bandera Camp. Hi from USA.
@@mishaknopkin2199 And you are a slave of Russian propaganda. Follow his course on TH-cam “The making of modern Ukraine” you might learn something and liberate yourself from false propaganda.
В мене деколи таке відчуття, що крім нього цього ніхто з західного світу не розуміє . Надіюся , Тімоті достукається до сердець і розуму людей
Oh, I understand, and I think a lot of us do. Unfortunately, there are a number of powerful Americans who *like* genocide and want to do it here. I name no names.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it.
I have the same feelings unfortunately. russians just killed us and nobody can help Ukrainians
@@juliadizhak8397 Aren't Ukrainians on blame themselves? Till 2014 Ukrainian and Russian people in Ukraine were brotherly people. The President was pro-Russian and Russian Crimea was a part of Ukraine. In 2014 the situation changed 180 degrees. A group of Ukrainian nationalists from Western Ukraine (Stalin gave those lands to UkrSSR in 1945) with the help of us Americans, of course, made a state coup in 2014. Russian language (which used to be a regional language in Southern/Eastern regions) was forbidden at the official level. Banderas were forcing Russians and all Russian speaking to speak MOVA. In 8 years, the World has what had to be happened. Most of us Americans understand that people in East/South of Ukraine want to remain Russians and now it is possible only if they are part of Mother Russia. And now it happened for 4 regions. More to come.
@@mishaknopkin2199 I was on independence square in 2014. I saw everything! So don’t tell me your brain washed russian propaganda. You knew nothing about Ukraine. We don’t want any pro-russian president. As you have in russia tsar putin who already killed 70+ thousands of russian just because he wants to restore Soviet Union
дякую, пану Тімоті, за донесення цих важливихї думок світовій спільноті
Thank you for your support!
One small correction: Wagner is not 'a private mercenary group', it is 'so called private mercenary group'. In fact it is illegal Putins army or smth: they fight with weapons that couldn't be in privare hands: like military aircrafts, tanks, air-defense systems, etc., they are trained on russian military bases
Started by and funded by Poo-Tin, as his private army, that operates away from the law, and humanity.
@@BloodSweatandGears they are true terrorists
I hope this and other TS lectures will be visible for as many people as possible. Thank you for posting this💛💙
Brilliant thank you
Excellent analysis. Russia has been showing the signs of genocidal intent for years now - an intent that they now are bringing into reality.
I'm appalled by Germany's and Israel's indecisiveness in this crisis. They, more than most other countries, should have shown commitment to help Ukraine in these terrible times.
germany indecisive? do you live in a parallel universe?
Dude slava types rounded up and ratted out judens so there's that...
Yeah I would go as far as to say he knows what's up more than anyone probably even including most that are currently in the process of doing it do. I have been a fan of his work for a long time. Because of that I believe Inwas much better "equiped" for understanding what has been happening since it all started than Inwpuld have been otherwise. Seeing this sort of thing unfold rasies so many thoughts regardinghow much of our senseof the world and out place in it is based off of stories. Stories that change and have their meanings twisted as needed. Stories are like a universal language itself, but like any language, it can be manipulated.
I really hope the right people are consulting with him. I know he will do anything he can to help no matter how much time he has to spend doing so.
@@Davidt1066 well, they did hesitate to help provide weapons and the issue with the gas which made the other NATO States that didn't seem to be out of step with them which could have been seen as instability withing NATO and emboldened wading in deeper....or at least seen that way by some. Clearly it's more complicated, but it could be argued as such. Israel on the other hand can't say anything since they are and have been in many ways basically doing the same thing imo. Hell, we in the US really can't either after Iraq, but we must since that is part of what Putin is counting on and it's the right thing to do whether or not we have always done the right thing. The whole "everyone is like this" thing is what putin banks on almost completely. Part of what Professor Snyder calls "the politics of eternity".
I do believe that before we start calling for the ICC to prosecute, the US needs to at least acknowledge it and sign on, but ideally also stand trial for any crimes that it may be ducking by not signing onto it. That act, along with an apology would stop putin's narrative cold in its tracks and would do a lot to rebuild some trust in the world. Everyone knows what happened, it's not like refusing to admit it changes that, but it does say we feel we are above the law and legitimize that kind of behavior in people like putin. Everyone/entity makes mistakes trying to hide them just makes them worse, but dealing with them correctly is better than not making any at all...that is how you learn. Plus there would be no better time to stand trial when his crimes make the ones committed in Iraq etc plae in comparison.
Here we have the values of "honesty, taking responsibility, and equality" etc. pounded into our heads from birth and have them associated with our Nation, but the Nation as a whole hardly ever lives up to them. In fact in many ways those individuals who are the most "successful" often do the opposite and are praised for it. If putin wants to say we "have no room to talk" he kinda can with merit. However, if we did that, then we could as we are now, but without "the base alloy of hypocrisy"
It is important to note (not that it justifies their approach!) Israel has a bit weird internal situation. They have a lot of Jews that are from former USSR. This part of population is frequently pro-Russian and is quite significant. Elections are coming in Israel, so no one will risk alienating big part of voters... As I said: it doesn't justify but it is explanation (well, part of it at least) and it's good to understand this.
Thank you with all my heart mr Snyder.
Simply great speech. Well structured and very convincing.
A brilliant analysis !!!
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
Дякую УП за версією англійською. Послухаю ще раз, бо тези надзвичайно важливі
Давай, слухай! Пока электричество ещё есть.
This is the part of the war that no one wants to confront, but we must.
Ці акценти надзвичайно важливі, їх треба популяризувати як у нас так і за кордоном.
Videos like these should really come with Russian subtitles, so they can be distributed in Russia and serve as an antidote to the state propaganda.
Not gonna work, they love their Tsar too much.
They do believe their TV.
Яндекс-переводчик позволяет слушать англоязычные видео.
А вы смешной что думаете что антироссийская пропаганда видится нами, русскими, менее лживой чем российская.
This propaganda only people likes you can believe 😂😂😂
@@logik1475 The fact that you see anything not by Russian state TV as “anti-Russian propaganda” is telling.
Time to come up for air.
Mr. Snyder. You are the best. Thank you.
🇺🇲 That's our guy👍.
Very good job. Fantastic ❤️🙏
He's brilliant. I'm picking my way through Bloodlands, which is not easy, but also following his ongoing lecture series The Making of Modern Ukraine. He's damn good at what he does.
Excellent analysis, professor Snyder. You help us, Ukrainians, to understand what’s happening. Sometime it’s hard to see bold truth through the horrors of this time. Thank you! Your mission is tremendous.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
"Московия была воспитана и выросла в ужасной и гнусной школе монгольского рабства. Она усилилась только благодаря тому, что стала virtuoso в искусстве рабства. Даже после своего освобождения Московия продолжала играть свою традиционную роль раба, ставшего господином. Впоследствии Петр Великий сочетал политическое искусство монгольского раба с гордыми стремлениями монгольского властелина, которому Чингисхан завещал осуществить свой план завоевания мира.” (Карл Маркс)
Terrific (maybe “important” or “useful” to look up the definition in the 1948 Convention - thanks. Yes I have your books - they aren’t quick reads. I appreciate the clarity of your presentation.
I think that this great speech by Prof. Snider begs a question: We all understand that a genocide of Ukrainian people is taking place right now, so what you, as citizens of a civilized world, will do to stop it?
Many countries have supplied aid and weapons since the start of the war and will likely continue to do so until it ends. Many have also given refuge to fleeing civilians. It's also been talked about on the media many times What else can be done?
Same as they did for Rwandans?
@@sbeast64 1. Stop any economic relations with Russia; 2. Actually provide weapons Ukraine requests (not done yet and with a lot of bureaucracy); 3. Ban visas for Russians; 4. Kick Russia out of the UN Security Council
@@sbeast64 And besides the steps mentioned -acknowledge Russia is a terrorist state. And kick it out of UN, too - not only Security Council, though it is more urgent. I actually am amazed at this helpless answer - you mean the collective West, the collective world cannot really do ANYTHING substantial to a clearly genocidal government?!
I’m afraid that such a question is unansweable by the collective “you citizens of a civilized world”. It can only be asked of and answered by individuals and by (some) governments. The problem, of course, is that governmental policy can change very quickly. Particularly in a democracy, governmem=nts have to weigh the likelihood of support by, not the people, but their elected representatives. In the U.S, those of us who support Ukraine worry what will happen to U.S. support if the Republican party wins the mid-term elections.
It can't *not* be clear. I read a Russian-language post whose official English translation was bad enough, but skipped the part where Ukraine was referred to as the "СалоРейх" -- SaloReich -- philosophically equivalent to calling the southwest section of Chicago "Chitling City", for example. You talk about places like that when you're saying that they shouldn't exist.
And pay also attention - reich.
Russians are proud their so-called Victory Day, and since 2014 start write "we can repeat" not "this should not be repeated".
Victory Day is their cargo cult.
We are salo - so like pigs, not exactly humans.
And we are reich - so they must take Reichstag like their grandfathers.
Absolutely madness. 21 century man, 21 century.
The powerful speech
Tim Snyder talk the truth about the nature of the Cremlin regime. Thanks for uploading.
God save us all!
Slava Ukraini from Auckland New Zealand!! Kia Kaha!!
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
A fantastic lecture, and very accurate too
Ms. Beck you are such a dear one!
Videos like these should really come with Muscovite subtitles, so they can be distributed in Muscovy and serve as an antidote to the Moscow imperialist propaganda.
Important
Thank you
Дякую ))
Should take this to the international court
So someone needs to get off their hands and DECLARE IT. !
Awesome spech!
Awesome 👏👏👏
👏👍🇺🇲♥️🇺🇦❤️🩹💛💙🔱Thank you, Professor Snyder, for your insight and your challenge to the fashion of shallow dismissal that prevents the world from understanding, that Ukraine is the thin line between our free democratic world and the mordor of the putinland! My family and friends love your course on Ukraine vs ruzzian "empire". 🇺🇲♥️🇺🇦👍👏 щиро дякуємо! Слава Україні !
Who cares here in US. Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. But you are right that the actual Ukraine is the thin line. Most of the current Ukraine will be Russia and Poland. So only "thin" will be left. 😁😁
Будьласка, ви не могли б додати українські субтитри.
Не з субтитрами але з українським перекладом.
th-cam.com/video/4vAybAK32k4/w-d-xo.html
I wondered why noone had made the connections
I am glad i had grandparents to speek to us.
Дякую за відео. Хотів би зазначити, що зараз на ютубі на каналі Yale University публікують доволі цікаві лекції проф. Тімоі Снайдера про історію становлення сучасної України. Також варто ознайомитись з його короткою статтею Russia's genocide handbook.
Дякую. Це важливо поширювати, бо люди схильні ігнорувати незручну правду, щоб зняти з себе відповідльність діяти.
The sheer amount of approving and rejoicing comments of ordinary Russians under videos of the atrocities committed against civilians in Ukraine were no less a shock for Ukrainians than the war itself.
We have somehow got used to the war, but the realization of who we have been living next to all this time, without even knowing it, is still terrifying.
Those creatures call themselves our brothers. Imagine what they would do to you who they call their enemies if you let them.
Дякую.
Professor Snyder's opinions can be understood better if you simply pick up a copy of his book "The Road to Unfreedom". Putin's beliefs and motivations have been strongly inspired by a twentieth century Russian fascist philosopher by the name of Ivan Ilyin. Timothy's book is an eye opener. Also his most recent Yale Courses on "The Making of Modern Ukraine" (found on TH-cam) have been a fantastic watch.
Thank you for your analysis. Russia has a lot to answer for and virtually every former Soviet state has a story to tell. Ukraine just happened to be Putin's idea fix so he went all in to take it. Russia (not just Putin) needs to admit its crimes or it will be eternally reborn as a fascist empire of some sort even after brief brief periods of adequacy.
2:55 begin here.
I think that his assertions are valid as general observations, but let's recognize that these same elements of intent are often precursors to war, as a way of mitigating, or even justifying the invasion of another state. And it can be wondered whether genocide or military force is the dominant element. As evil as the russian state is, it's beyond dispute that the goal was to pull Ukraine back into Moscow's empire, and to preserve it for 'strategic depth.' By comparison, this very effect was achieved with Belarus by force of Lukachenko's dependence on Moscow.
The underlying argument of Russian propaganda is that Ukrainians are really Russians who have been led astray by deviant elements within and external by (of course) the West.
Also, to the extent that what looks like genocide has been ordered by the Kremlin, it can be interpreted as terrorism or at least a pressure tactic. The targeting of infrastructure, and of civilians, and even various war crimes - the rational goal of this would be to force capitulation by increasing the cost and the personal pain. By comparison, Chinese actions against Uigars can only be interpreted as a strategy of elimination.
Криваві землі - неймовірна книга
.Glory то Ukraine !
🇺🇦❤️🇺🇦
in yesterday's lecture, Snyder touched on topics that are the sphere of my professional interests - OUN, UPA, Polish-Ukrainian conflict.
The approach chosen by the professor to present events "from a bird's eye view" is understandable, because we are talking about an audience that is not familiar with Ukrainian history. But even such a height does not remove the necessary attention to details "somewhere on the ground", otherwise the presented picture is not generalized, but distorted.
In this lecture, Snyder repeated several times the previously voiced thesis that the OUN is an insignificant, marginal organization that had no influence on political life and would have remained unknown if not for the Second World War.
Probably, that is why this organization was the target of attacks by the Polish and Soviet special services, the Germans considered it necessary to seek contacts with it. Therefore, legal political forces (in particular, the largest Ukrainian party UNDO mentioned in the lecture) considered the OUN a serious political competitor in domestic politics, and cooperated with the organization in foreign political actions, bringing information to the world about the crimes of the Polish or Soviet authorities.
The UPA appears in the lecture not as a manifestation of the anti-German resistance movement, but as an instrument of ethnic cleansing of the Polish population. Polish actions against Ukrainians are marked with the phrase "there was also a Polish response" (and for some reason it is indicated - mainly in Galicia, but Kholmshchyna and Nadsiania, where the most mass killings of the Ukrainian civilian population took place, are not mentioned)
Searching for the reasons for the confrontation, Snyder offers a strange chain of explanations: in 1939, after the fall of Poland, young Ukrainians went to serve in the Soviet militia, where they participated in repressions against the Poles (in Snyder's opinion, the main target for the Soviets was the Poles), then, after 1941, many of these Ukrainians joined the German police and participated in the extermination of Jews, then many of them joined the UPA and "having extermination experience" took on the Polish population.
An interesting chain, but too far from reality - not so many young Ukrainians had the opportunity to join the Soviet militia, because Ukrainians were also the object of Soviet repression.
Even fewer of these Ukrainians joined the German police after the Soviet retreat, mostly they were completely different people. And even fewer of those who were in the German police later joined the UPA - according to the estimates of modern researchers, there were several hundred such people among tens of thousands of insurgents.
The probability of a certain number of young Ukrainians who have passed the entire path outlined by Snyder from the OUN through the Soviet militia to the German militia and then to the UPA is headed for zero.
Presenting the creation of the UPA as an underground transition of experienced Soviet-German collaborators and thugs is an approach that will explain nothing to foreign audiences about the Ukrainian liberation movement, its connection with the current war with Russia, and its impact on this war.
Next, Snyder mentions the deportation of over a million Poles (actually about 800,000) from the territory of Ukraine. The professor bypassed the deportation of Ukrainians from Poland in 1944-1946 (about half a million), mentioning only the "Visula" campaign.
Of course, someone will say that these are only "small" details, but they form the general image that the historian presents to the audience.
Snyder's purpose of the course of lectures was to explain the causes of the current war. According to the results of yesterday's lecture, his students are unlikely to understand the connection between the current struggle for independence and the century-old liberation movement. As well as why, for Putin, Ukrainians who are resisting are still "Banderivites", and Ukrainian soldiers in rebel Mazepinkas are still greeted with Banderiv's "Glory to Ukraine".
P.S. The problem of the Polish-Ukrainian conflict is really complex, but I want to note for Mr. Snyder - there is not only Polish literature on this topic. I can recommend even an English-language one: Viatrovych V. The Gordian Knot: The Second Polish-Ukrainian War. 1942-1947.
Чи можна перекласти цикл лекцій про сучасну Україну Тімоті Снайдера?
Йєль не дав дозволу…
@@Pterodactyl3011 можливо, можна викласти на каналі Єлю, якщо в цьому проблема?
@@Pterodactyl3011 цікаво🤔 однак і так норм.
Who cares here in US? Just wait for November 8 and you will see the difference in attitude of our government to help for Ukraine. Polls show that Republicans want to stop it. 😁😁
“The formula Muscovy + Ukraine = Russia does not feature in the Russians’ own version of their history; but it is fundamental.” (Norman Davies "Europe: A History")
To relativise the Holocaust is punishable.
Ivan Ilyin is as much a thinker as Rudy Giuliani.
Наш чувак!
If war was fast food, this guy would be wearing a Ronald McDonald outfit.
🌬 Une conversation importante sur les évidentes intentions de la ru de pratiquer méthodiquement un génocide en Ukraine mais une conversation que je ne peux pas partager car elle est souillée par la pub. Ceci explique peut-être cela./
Ukranians, whatever you do, do not take showers.
🙏
Лайк!
Good, I think using direct quotes and sources would be even better, as many people seem skeptical of it as you say.
All arguments are also valid in a civil war.
as a person studying international law what he said is laughable and has no legal meaning
T. Snyder is a good one, but not the best.
🇺🇲🇺🇦if you look at the map of areas covered by cell towers services, russia will look as a much smaller country, then its square milage and the world map's imposition suggest
How about replacement in UK?
Russian subtitles!
Hello. No option to LIKE the stream (!)
Of ukrsnian rusian china 7 balcan defaut eu 27 meber us of
This man tells us bulshit anyone who live in russia and observed this war with Ukraine carefully would be able to notice it. This man distorts the whole situation
What is chilling for me is that one can almost replace the name “Putin”with the “GOP” and be very close to a real analogy of what is happening today, and to many events right here in America.
... a line of thought that Timothy Snyder has repeatedly engaged.
От це Снайдеру повезло - мати примірник "Пророка" Грицака,
Idij nahui ruSSki Nazi!
count russian names in ukr government and ukrainian ones in russian government ?
Why? Tf you think that would prove😆
@@pppLT19 sure, who needs dam proofs when plan is what counts, ikr bro
@@id15yes2 you are mentally ill
@@solitudesf8111 md ?
Why to count? All is so mixed so you cannot tell. As Putin said Russians and Ukrainians are the same people.
LOL
A pathetic excuse for scholarship.
You are a pathetic excuse for a human :(
@@ivanfox2028 You are too kind.
@@ronrice1931 Bet you I am :)
Oh please. Compare the death toll in Ukraine to the death toll in Palestine & tell me what you see.
Why do you think genocide is ok?
You are a horrible person hu*g yourself
I see whataboutism and deflection from the topic at hand.
The estimated death toll for Mariupol alone is 100k. In Palestine, the deaths over the past 70 years are at 30k. What they hell are you even talking about.
@@pawelstuglik4737 They literally lie every time they can.
Objective reality is not important to them, they just do propaganda, I wouldn't even bother answering seriously to them like you did, you're totally right tho.
Thank you very much. Once again Professor Snyder delivers an educated take on events unfolding in the fog of war and propaganda. Who blew up the underseas pipeline and what was the motive? The attack on Kerch bridge, clearly by Ukraine, was a military strike but Russia says it was an act of terrorism even though very few were killed - meanwhile all the Russian attacks on schools, hospitals and civilian infrastructure have the "hiding Ukrainian military units" as the early rationale and now there isn't even a rationale for the civilian attacks other than revenge for the Kerch Bridge bombing - truck bomb most likely. It reminds me so much of the Soviet-Nazi propaganda drama over the massacre of the Polish officer prisoners in the Katyn Forest: the Germans did it says Stalin; later, the Germans dig up forensic evidence pointing to the Russians...the massacre by the NKVD took place in the spring of 1940 and the German "dig" in 1943.
Yes, indeed, it takes courage for Professor Snyder to ask about the silence of the Israeli and German governments - and, I might add, their lack of actions as well to aid Ukraine.
I do what I can to help here: williamrneil.substack.com/p/the-place-of-this-war-in-human-history - which is the talk given in Kyiv in September, along with Niall Ferguson, Professor Serhii Plokhy and Anne Applebaum.
If there were an equivalent to a holocaust denier in the realm of yukrainian expertise this guy would be that poster child.
This guy is an 'expert on the' shoah like Dr. yosef mengele was an expert on human anatomy.
One of the biggest western propagandists. I've been listening to him every week lately.
@ Vladislav every week? maybe you will learn something as you are clearly in need of it
Relating historical facts is not propaganda.
If you think Snyder is a propagandist you have zero idea about Ukraine, Europe and the US.
Russian Nazis will pay for their crimes
Analyst, not propagandist. Ви помиляєтесь, слухайте уважно, порівнюйте і самі мислите.
Дякую.