“By themselves, Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend’s giant balls can’t tell us anything about the COVID-19 vaccine.” is the best quote i’ve heard in my entire life
Remember when ol' Tucker asked for Nicki's Cousin's friend with the massive balls (who likely doesn't even exist) to come onto his nationally-broadcast television show? Hilarious. Good times.
I can only imagine the relief of making it through that line of the script without betraying the broad, beaming delight of having written it in the first place. Shaun's delivery was, to coin a concept, outstandingly modest.
You go to some kind of TH-cam convention. You see on the map that Shawn has his own booth. You walk to where it says he should be, but there is only a skull with sunglasses on the table. "He must be getting lunch." you say. "No, Hbomberguy is doing a sandwich run for a few of us." corrects the skull.
@@vt_973 Hbomberguy is literally the Top-Comment here, so i probably dont have to say this, butt in case you didnt knew: Hbomberguy made an absolutely awesome video about Vaccines and the True Origin/Root of Anti-Vaxx-Ideas.
@@weareallbornmad410that’s literally what he meant lol Shaun refutes most of these people simply by actually reading the sources they themselves provided
Not the first time Dore has been called out for changing the text of an article he quotes. I used to like his content but as Shaun points out, Dore has changed tack significantly. It's rather funny because Dore used to often say in a joking way that if someone paid him enough he would say whatever they wanted him to. Guess someone finally did!
Hbomberguy is literally the Top-Comment here, so i probably dont have to say this, butt in case you didnt knew: Hbomberguy made an absolutely awesome video about Vaccines and the True Origin/Root of Anti-Vaxx-Ideas.
let me guess people who are hating on Jimmy Dore probably The Young Turks fans on here LOL😂 of course you're going to hate the guy because he disagrees and you guys are fucking brainwashed and you'll never admit to your side being wrong about anyting.
@@loturzelrestaurant you know what's annoying is people saying that others who disagree with this vaccine or who do not want this vaccine are anti-vax. not wanting one vaccine doesn't make you anti-vax because you don't trust it. I would argue that trying to force people to take a vaccine telling them that they'll lose their job or they'll lose their paycheck or be taken off of a schedule because they didn't inject something into their bodies they didn't want is more dangerous and is actual tyranny not what Jimmy is doing. so you can take vaccines your whole entire life even a flu shot every year but the one time you don't want to take a vaccine because you think something's wrong with it or you just don't trust it you are automatically labeled anti-vaxxer. And then what people want to write stupid articles from where the origins of anti-vaxxers came from LOL😂
@@peterptchronic9696 Lol deserved savagery on this topic aside, Max and The Grayzone more broadly actually does do quite a bit of excellent journalism, but I guess to generalize it I would say exclusively on US empire, the CIA plot to kill Assange recently confirmed by Michael Isikoff (an ardent proponent of all the Russiagate shit it might be worth noting considering the loose Russia-Assange connections ie doesn't inherently line up with that narrative and in many ways contradicts it but yet his sources corroborated Max's investigation; Russiagate itself effectively a strand of this same kind of vague correlating and reflexive inverting of certain authorities, _despite_ that distrust being warranted more generally, clearly I digress lol) for example was pretty thoroughly put together like a year prior by him. But you know even still, just be skeptical of everything anyway, obviously we don't have to blindly trust or agree with people that we happen to "like" or trust in certain circumstances. We do after all live in late-stage capitalist hellscape and so all that is solid is indeed melting into bullshit, and there's no vaccine to become immune from the pure ideology *_*sniff_** and inherent social fracturing it effectively demands of us all to merely survive. _"Immaturity is the inability to use one's understanding without guidance from another."_ - I Kant Believe it's not Butler (aka Kant) and of course if circumstantially unfamiliar with not-so-subtle reference in last sentence, _"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy, apparently a bit too optimistic at the end we wouldn't just individually choose delusion while everything burns (Marx) _“No-one knew what was required; instead, individuals could only guess what particular gestures or directives meant. What happens in late capitalism, when there is no possibility of appealing, even in principle, to a final authority which can offer the definitive official version, is a massive intensification of that ambiguity.”_ - obligatory Mark Fisher
Common misconception, but it's actually a Passive Ability unlocked once a Mage-specific character unlocks the "Sanguine Sorcerer" Subclass at around level 15 (or 12 if the character has the "Vampirism" perk.)
All IM injections are supposed to be administered by aspirating the syringe as not to accidentally inject the medication directly into a blood vessel. If you are ever in hospital, and you are to receive a powerful pain relief med. be sure and tell the doctor not to bother aspirating the needle, because you are smarter than all the doctors and nurses that were trained To Aspirate The Needle
Cool video but it was really weird to end it with flashing lights for another 50 minutes telling me to obey the CIA and tell me to commit a series of secret coups in different countries what's up with that Shaun?
@@evanahearne1479 And it's maybe a good thing because studies show that it is bad for your health, there is some molecules like putrescine in the semen that seems to increase probability to get prostate cancer.
@@deathmagneto-soy i thought he was pretty funny and bought his book years back an when i started to read it, it was like, "oh, god..." I've never told anyone that story.
When Shaun said "The Metabolic Rates of Mice and Men" my first thought was a short story for biochemists wherein one antibacterial sample has to shoot his friend antibacterial sample because it also destroys human tissue, like "think of the Ribosomes, Lennie"
Anecdote on the tinnitus issue: I've had horrific tinnitus and pulsatile tinnitus for 18 months with long covid. I wouldn't be surprised if it could also be triggered by your immune response to the vaccine, but I'd much rather a temporary case from that than the clusterfuck that's long covid 😑
God, that must be awful. Hope you get better soon. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what's long covid? Is that a nickname for one of the variants?
@@Tanuki-cl7qi it's an ongoing set of symptoms that carries on far longer than you actually have the virus. it's (potentially) caused by the virus attaching to neurons. common symptoms include fatigue, shortness of breath, brain fog / memory issues, muscle pain, dizziness, tinnitus, and others. it can last over a year and be debilitating.
Oh god, I hadn't even heard about this particular symptom. I already have severe tinnitus, so thank god for the vaccine tbh, I don't want this to get any worse
This is the problem, it's takes 30 seconds to spout misinformation. It then takes a much longer time to break down why it's misinformation and disprove it.
By the time you've disproven a lie, the people who fell for it have vanished into a cave system of other interconnected lies and will tune you out under the assumption that you are yourself lying on behalf of bankers, _bankers,_ aliens, the slavering legions of Hell, or the CIA. For something that can be built so quickly and cheaply, a complex of lies is impossibly durable. If you need a foundation for a business, you can't do better.
On the mouse study, those mistakes are literally why peer review and replication of data is necessary in science, any experiment should be repeated, but especially high-profile studies with major mistakes
Aspirating before injecting the vaccines would be a good precaution. Shaun gets it s wee bit wrong... CDC and WHO (and NIH) don't actually recommend against it. They merely say it isn't necessary. There's some history and such involved with that you probably don't care about, but the important part is that they don't say accidentally hitting a blood vessel never happens. They say it is very unlikely. For most common IM vaccines and medicines, accidentally putting it directly into a blood vessel isn't likely to cause a problem. That's not the case for all medicines though. There are drugs that will mess you up if they end up going directly into the bloodstream, and those injections require aspiration. Most folks assumes the mRNA vaccines were in the "not a problem" category. The mouse study shows that it is quite possibly in the "really needs to be IM, so check by aspiration" category. Most of the criticisms he mentions are valid, but don't really call into question the overall results of the study. Mice aren't humans... The conclusion was just that there is a particular way the mRNA vaccines *could* be particularly bad (which doesn't apply to many other vaccines) if they accidentally get injected into the bloodstream. The idea that the rare occasion a supposedly IM injection accidentally ends up going into a blood vessel *might* be associated with the rare serious side effects which look a lot like what happens if you give mice the vaccine IV (but doesn't happen when you give mice the same dose IM)... It seems pretty *plausible*. Precautionary principle seems to say we should aspiratie when giving these vaccines to humnas. The reason to not aspirate is very weak after all (it takes a second more and might hurt a tiny bit more). BTW: There's another study which did pretty much the same experiment with the adenovirus based vaccine... And showed that IV administration causes clotting problems, just like we see as a very rare but bad side effect in people getting the vaccine. That paper has a lot more detailed biochemistry explaining the possible mechanism, so even more plausibly applicable to humans. Oh, and some other places do require aspiration before injecting for the COVID vaccines. Denmark's guidelines use the phrase "precautionary principle" IIRC. PS: John Campbell isn't anti-vaxx. The anti-vaxx crowd glommed onto him because he talked about vitamin D and is a bit too credulous about those crap IVM studies. His videos are ok... The comment sections on them are horrendous.
@@travcollier incredibly thoughtful and detailed information. As I navigate this space, not this channel specifically but the topic in general, I only see this kind of practice going one way. Absolutely, as you mention there are atrocious comments albeit I’ve seen more than a fair share in both directions. What I find so disappointing is how quickly every single person is grouped as if they are atrocious on top of being anti science and anti vaccine, regardless of an individuals calls of having taken the vaccine or of recommending others take it or encouraging people speak with their doctor, especially if at high risk. I can’t help but see a pattern where any topic which might even remotely be considered as useful for a bad fair (or atrocious) individual to use in an argument or which has the slightest chance to discourage someone from being vaccinated, there is an all out attack on that topic and anyone who might participate in it. And I will reiterate that those individuals who even participate in said discussion are loudly grouped with people holding some of the most extreme anti views. It’s such a shame not only because it feels terribly wrong and in my opinion is doing long term damage to credibility and crushing the last bits of civility we might have had but the real crime is how there has never been a better time to unite the peoples of a number of countries and it could be passing us by. It’s so ripe for unity and thoughtful progress but we’re just not quite there yet. I have hope though and with thoughtful discord like yours maybe we can get people to take a step back for long enough to see the faces of those we’re all so angry with and with luck we can see ourselves enough to tolerate a little more and add a pinch of patience with a dash of empathy, (maybe a handful) to make something incredible. We’ll see how it goes, cheers.
This is a trickier one... I only actually recently discovered jimmy dore because I follow kyle kulinski and heard him talking about some beef he had with TYT. Later the video being talked about appeared in my feed because I follow dr. John Campbell (among a few other's I've looked into and don't appear to have any ties to any conspiracy movement, but give long winded, detailed, nuanced explanations of the latest developments). Campbell is using the mice study, and the survey to speculate a possible link between rare accidental intravenous injection, and rates of rare side effects. He admits the data isn't very reliable, but it would potentially make sense and is worth studying further. He was surprised to learn that the CDC is actually recommending against aspiration, as this contradicts not only what he learned in medical school, but pfizer and Moderna's own instructions. He's suggesting, why wouldn't doctors just aspirate anyway since that's always been standard practice, and if its bad if the vaccines get in your bloodstream... then why not be better safe than sorry no matter how rare or how few blood vessels there are there? The official advice from the CDC is recommending against the practice because it might be slightly more painful. Furthermore, if people are already scared of needles and this one is painful, it might scare them off in future... I asked my doctor about this, she said yes it is standard practice to aspirate. She said a lot of people don't bother when the injection site has very few blood vessels as its rare for it to be an issue and people get comfortable, but they're supposed to do it... So while I'm not qualified to say who is correct. The CDC guidance is not universal, many public health bodies around the world reccomend the opposite. It really depends on the country... so I lean towards dr. Campbell's advice
An important point about the mouse study, animal studies usually cannot be generalised to humans anyway, especially mouse or rat studies. They can inform directions for future research on human samples but you shouldn't draw definite conclusions from them (especially when the sample size of one or more groups is 6)
what I appreciate most about Shaun as a presenter is that I never come away thinking, "damn these people are idiots". I'm always left examining my own assumptions closer and questioning the info/media that I consume, which I think is a testament to the nuance of his approach to media criticism.
I'd be so pleased and proud to receive a compliment like this if I made content like Shaun does. And what you've said is the point, I think. There'll always be grifters; giving people the tools to see through the grift is what will help in the long-run.
This is a trickier one... I only actually recently discovered jimmy dore because I follow kyle kulinski and heard him talking about some beef he had with TYT. Later the video being talked about appeared in my feed because I follow dr. John Campbell (among a few other's I've looked into and don't appear to have any ties to any conspiracy movement, but give long winded, detailed, nuanced explanations of the latest developments). Campbell is using the mice study, and the survey to speculate a possible link between rare accidental intravenous injection, and rates of rare side effects. He admits the data isn't very reliable, but it would potentially make sense and is worth studying further. He was surprised to learn that the CDC is actually recommending against aspiration, as this contradicts not only what he learned in medical school, but pfizer and Moderna's own instructions. He's suggesting, why wouldn't doctors just aspirate anyway since that's always been standard practice, and if its bad if the vaccines get in your bloodstream... then why not be better safe than sorry no matter how rare or how few blood vessels there are there? The official advice from the CDC is recommending against the practice because it might be slightly more painful. Furthermore, if people are already scared of needles and this one is painful, it might scare them off in future... I asked my doctor about this, she said yes it is standard practice to aspirate. She said a lot of people don't bother when the injection site has very few blood vessels as its rare for it to be an issue and people get comfortable, but they're supposed to do it... So while I'm not qualified to say who is correct. The CDC guidance is not universal, many public health bodies around the world reccomend the opposite. It really depends on the country... so I lean towards dr. Campbell's advice
its so satisfying to listen to shaun go through dore’s crappy arguments point by point in a clear and concise manner. honestly, the bad arguments fall apart as soon as shaun applies simple facts and step-by-step logic.
I come to Shaun videos in the mindset that an argument is being laid to rest just by seeing that he decided to upload a video responding to them. He's methodical.
As a scientist, at first I was really mad and borderline offended you would suggest that the authors "mixed the samples up". I've had reviewers make comments like that in the past and it's usually a super assinine critique, basically along the lines of "I can't see anything wrong with your results, but I can't believe your conclusion, so you must be wrong.". I always say that as a scientist you should spend about 1/5th of your time at the bench labeling things and recording them into your notebook. We put a huge ammount of effort into making sure that mix ups don't happen, and we go to such great efforts to validate and repeat our results that mix ups typically get caught. When we get a weird result the typical response is "Oh really? Let's regenotype or see if we can see the same thing with different animals, reagents, etc.", this is the stage where many unusual findings die. But then when you showed the image flip and rotate, I was like "Oh boy, saying they mixed things up is GENEROUS!" That looks like data falsification if I've ever seen it, and anybody who suggests it's an "accident" is being polite. Not only is it the same sample, it's probably the same image, which is harder to mix up. Unless you're a complete lazy slob, whenever you go to publish you usually have several images that demonstrate the result you want to show, and you choose which one is the most clear or most representative. Doing the experiment without taking useable images is a massive waste of time. When things are contentious, it can help to publish all of the raw images in the supplement. Using the same image across multiple figures raises eyebrows even when everything's labeled correctly (because the implication is that you didn't do the experiment enough times to have the all the control images). Labeling the same image differently usually gets a paper rejected. This paper WILL be retracted!
@Alex Fantini Lol you dont think I've thoroughly looked into this guy and all his wacky claims? I wasnt born yesterday, like you. He's a psycho. Go see what other medical professionals and researchers have to say about him.
23:40 I was just about to comment that you missed the perfect opportunity for an “Of Mice and Men” joke, and then you immediately made one. Beautiful comedic timing from Shaun there!
"I'm very sorry, Mister. It's just... these things, they bother me. You're jumping all around this article, pulling phrases and sentences all willy-nilly-like! It seems to me that you're trying to present a biased worldview." "Oh, and just one more thing. You see, when you were reading this article, you seem to have not read this section right here, that deliberately disproves your statement."
As a former heroin addict who is 8 years clean I can tell you its fucking impossible to IV anything anywhere near the spot where the jab is done. It's not easy to IV in small veins especially with a large gauge needle meant for IM use. The needle is too wide to hit tiny blood vessels and micro veins that are present in the jab location.
The mouse study was only 6 mice? Mice are cheap why would you only use 6, is it even possible to get a statistical spread? I mean if just one mouse in the group died of unrelated natural causes by pure coincidence it would produce the results that almost 17% died?
6 is generally viewed as the smallest sample size you can perform statistics on. So very lazy people or people who aren't overtly interested in achieving accurate results often settle for this number. However depending on your statistical analysis 6 is often times not enough and even if it mathematically is, the doubt left is still high enough to probably not use your results for medical advice.
The mice as a resource aren’t that hard to come around, but work needed for carrying out the study gets multiplied by the amount of mice one needs to take care, vaccinate, treat, scan, dissect, photograph and so on. To lesser extent the work of data analysis also gets more complex. Basically small studies can hint at the existence of a very notable effect, or rule one out. They at best call for more throughout studies if the results are positive. I think large reason why small studies are performed and published so often is that the scientists need to get published to keep their job. Thus it is better to try ten small studies and only invest more resources when one catches attention, rather than risking producing good but uninteresting results each and every time, risking losing grants and resources allocated to one because the produce seems “uninteresting” and not worth the resources. What essentially are market dynamics dictate the constant production of weak studies because while they offer no proper knowledge, they produce headlines and interest. Only after that are the proper studies (maybe) done. This tool for more broad results for identifying correlations thus serves a less scientific role of testing the waters of publications and media.
To add on to what the others are saying, usually the most statistically sound method is to pick a sample size relative to the effect size you want to look at. So, if you have a huge difference you're expecting to see between your control and test mice, you can get away with fewer samples. But, if your effect size is small (say, for example, because your mice sometimes have a background effect that looks like the thing you're analyzing), you need way more samples to have confidence in your conclusion. And confidence is the key word: the heart of statistics is determining the confidence you have that two samples are different. Unfortunately a lot of wet-lab scientists don't understand statistics particularly well, so sometimes they go with the "cost efficient" option. That is, they use an extremely small amount of replicates, and assume the effect size is very large. From a planning/statistics standpoint, this is putting the cart before the horse. And, as you pointed out, this approach is extremely susceptible to missing things and coming to false conclusions. But the studies aren't worthless, even when they're small. They just shouldn't be used to make conclusions, but rather to aid in generating a hypothesis for new experiments.
@@scratchvippy2600 There are also a lot of statistical methods for single subject designs. However, they require multiple measurements of that subject.
The second anyone changes the words in an article, posts their edit on screen as a source, and doesn't inform the viewer, that's it, nobody should ever trust them again. Jimmy Dore lost all credibility he could possibly have right then.
@@deathmagneto-soy when you change words to change the meaning of a topic like dore did then yes it's incredibly dishonest. He deleted the parts that don't agree with him and added a word to imply that those policies are on going. If he isn't lying why change any words why add anything? Cause he's a liar and it's pathetic
I mean, in all fairness: "We need a better study" is a perfectly valid outcome for a study. Just means you gotta label that first study as a pilot study.
To claim that unvaccinated people have better immunity than vaccinated people is like saying that people with no bulletproof vests are more likely to survive a shooting than people who wore bulletproof vests while working in public security (without including the unarmored people who didn’t survive shootings)
@@lewisjeter not really. its a false validation, meaing going in that direction isnt prob. wrong. its rid. to demand that studies determining a direction taking huge sample sizes. it could be wrong, but its a first hint that a hunt of information in that direction isnt wrong. so compl. to dismiss it is retarded
"dpi" as "days post injection" just wouldn't stick in my head so every time shaun said "2 dpi" all i was thinking was "wow....what low print quality......"
@@justingiacchetto746 It's just poking fun at the "funded by CIA to take down Dore" claim when the production value is bare bones. CIA paying 4chan trolls to push pro-war agenda sounds more believable.
@@justingiacchetto746 Pro convid vaccine sources immediately discredit themselves by referencing legacy media, funding from big pharma and Silicone Valley and a complete ignorance of facts. The strongest discredit is mere logic itself.....Why jab yourself with an unstudied big pharma product that doesn't prevent you from getting/transmitting convids and whose manufacturers aren't liable for the safety of? WHY? Logic.
@@appalachianprivileged3312 It isn’t “unstudied” in the slightest and not only are there a large amount of papers on the COVID vaccines themselves, but an even greater amount of literature about mRNA vaccines is general. Just because you’ve never read them or searched for them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And absolutely no vaccine will ever be able to prevent you from carrying any viral pathogens at all because that’s not how viruses or vaccines work. All vaccines are are a method to give your body a heads up on how to best prepare for and mitigate a virtually inevitable viral load and they’re incredibly effective at doing that. The point of vaccines isn’t to ensure zero contact with a virus, it’s to ensure that your immune system knows exactly what to do once you actually get the virus.
@@Sinisterlizards don't bother. This guy is either a troll or willfully ignorant. No matter how nuanced your reply is this dude is going to ignore them. This video literally debunks everything Dore says and that didn't convince him. I doubt any amount of evidence could change his mind.
As someone who is also pretty needlephobic, the covid jabs were barely noticable. I was still bracing myself for my first jab about a minute after the nurse administered it. I'm autistic so I'm hypersensitive to the feeling of needles and I've needed to lie down to get my jabs in the past.
For anyone who dislike needles, this was my experience as someone with a diagnosed needle phobia. The less fat you have, the shallower the injection will be. So the needle you see will likely not be going fully into you. Also, if it is going to be fully injected, remember that it's really only the part that goes through the skin and the muscle that hurts, so you shouldn't try to imagine it going in. In my experience, it was a very easy jab. There was no burning, no pain. Basically as if it was just a needle without an injection. Swing your arm around after, I like to imagine that it's like shaking a bowl of flour to fill in the holes, so I'm getting my cells to get back into the hole that the needle made. It makes me feel much better! Also, say that you have fainted in the past so that they take you to a private area. I always cry a lot, before during and after, and I don't want people seeing that. Don't look at the needle, look at the hand on the opposite arm as the one that's being injected. How does it move? What does it look like? Can you see your veins? Can you flex your thumb? Really concentrate hard. It's a good idea to try to relax your arm, but that isn't going to be easy. So instead I just don't think about it. It doesn't matter much if your muscles arent relaxed, it doesn't matter if you're flexing them to hell. It might make it hurt just the tiniest bit more, but it helps to know that there's no pressure on you to pretend you're not scared. If you're frightened, I love you, I get it, you can do this. I am so proud that you're willing to do this despite the fear, I believe in you.
I actually have a severe blood and needle phobia that can cause nausea and fainting, which is strange because I used to get my blood drawn all the time as was required for certain antidepressants. I had to look away when they administered the jabs, but I was surprised that I barely felt a thing. Now, the flulike symptoms I got (this is normal by the way) did shut me down for half a day, but I was completely fine afterwards as if nothing had happened. The flu shot I got last month hurt more, but nothing is anywhere near as bad as getting an IV put in the wrong way, which is probably where my phobia stems from. It's recommended you do get the flu vaccine as well, because you don't want your body fighting off that on top of anything else that might happen.
I'm autistic and sensitive too, I definitely felt them (and my arm was sore and weak afterwards) but they were quicker than most shots I've had in the past, so it stopped hurting faster.
I think Shaun makes it clear, but I wanna make sure everyone hears loud and clear: jokes are scripted and written, Jimmy had to read this article fully at one point to make these choices. Key words, “scripted choices.” He’s 100% lying, not even when making jokes but the REFERENCE material for his jokes, and that poor audience couldn’t know unless they pulled it out themselves.
When he responded to that article about his ivermectin claims he said "I never said that did I?" in the form of a question and then looked around the room for approval. You've never seen someone this uncertain. Can you imagine anyone honestly reading a blatant lie written about them in print and then reacting anything like Jimmy did?
I wish these conservative & conspiracy nut "comedians" could at least be _funny._ Even a guilty smirk would somehow make it slightly less awful, but I'm a miserable cxxt, so idk. I know honesty is asking far too much of them, cos that would blow their whole scheme, but then again, a proper _joke_ apparently will make them implode. All they do is intentionally ignore & misrepresent the things they punch down about, and say it in an incredulous tone. (Dry wit is far more than that, mind, and funny when done right.) No wonder Crowder's "stand-up comic" phase was so short-lived - yet he still calls himself a comedian and does those lame, cringey "skits". He has paid pals to laugh at that crap on his show,, but alone on stage with his "stand up routine", nobody laughed, cos they were waiting for a punchline. He'd have to gesture wildly or make a goofy face, like you do to get a giggle out of children. A scant few drunk people snickering at his incredulously face after the 1000th time they hear & recognise "100 genders" and "attack helicopters" is hardly a feather in your cap...gun. (Big words from a guy who wears cowboy cosplay every day.)
@@solgato5186 A lie is not a "mistake". Deliberately omitting information is not a "mistake". What, he just plumb forgot? He has the g.d. Memento disease? Did vaccines "k□ll and r□pe" his wife? OMG! Someone check him for tattoos!
At this point, I'm extremely skeptical of *medical* studies (as opposed to psychological studies or sociological studies) that rely on self-reporting as a major mechanic. The discredited Andrew Wakefield study, that incorrectly linked vaccines and autism, involved self-reporting by parents. Self-reporting in a psychological or sociological context can be helpful, and interviewing or surveying someone about their experiences when records or testing can provide proof of things like infection timelines can be valuable, too. But (for example) asking people whether they had "more tinnitus" after a vaccine, with no access to any medical records of previous tinnitus or medications people might be taking that can cause tinnitus etc. to corroborate people's responses, seems really unreliable. People are very susceptible to cognitive biases like confirmation bias and selective memory recall.
So you’re saying multiple people just happened to start a medication that would’ve gave them TINNITUS as a side effect at the same time they had gotten a vaccine? Just say they’re lying and leave it at that instead of making your whole argument null and void
While self reporting does have significant limitations which are nearly always commented on and taken into consideration when we are appraising a study, the Wakefield study is not a good example of these limitations. The parents of the kids in those studies later found out which patient number their kids were and stated that a lot of their reporting was misrepresented. So the reporting wasn’t unreliable, the data Wakefield used was completely fabricated.
When asking someone if they have a symptom after a vaccine, can cause some people to have that symptom. They may have had that symptom before the vaccine, but didn't pay much attention to it, but after it was mentioned, it is now apparent to the person. For example: I've had headaches for years, but I never really noticed them because they weren't intense, just always there. One day I heard mention of the type of headaches I get, and dang if I didn't start noticing them. But, if I was asked about headaches after taking the vaccine, I might have attributed the headaches to the vaccine, rather than my whole sinus problems.
Yeah, he heard that if you shit on Dore big Pharma will give you money. Seems like if you are only producing 2 videos in a year doing one on a guy in his garage talking on TH-cam is a curious choice.
@@trippmoore Damn I didn't know big pharma will just write you a cheque if you badmouth internet comedians. That's super good to know. Might be a good way to pull in some extra income. How does one get started? Do I just need to make a TH-cam channel or do you think like a blogspot would do the trick? Really appreciate this insight, rent is really expensive in Canada these days.
Going into photoshop, enhancing an image, zooming in and rotating and then in your video pretending to tell yourself to do that is fantastic and should be done in every video
"Man, I really enjoyed that joke in the video!" **comment explaining the joke** **comment explaining the joke** **comment explaining the joke** Is this a meta joke that I don't get? I'm seeing this happen in so many comment sections now!
Dore: "Anti-vax content was banned, but these two articles that don't actually contradict each other weren't" Also Dore: "So do you understand why there shouldn't be censorship EVER?" Any reasonable person: "What?"
Note on Singapore: Singapore has a population density of 8358 per Km2 compared to USA 36 km2. The population density is 232 TIMES larger. Everybody lives in close proximity. So of course there is gonna be a higher out break. Also i luv how Dummy Jore ignores what happened before all this which is Singapore had world's strictest covid rules. The mask mandate alone reduced the spread by 25% to 40%. Mind you, in Singapore the vast majority take public transportation unlike in the USA where everyone commute on a car making it even harder to contain a virus
Also, the virus outbreak isn't as scary as those people wanted you to believe. Some recent data examples: *Nov 3rd daily case* 3,633 new cases, 12 new deaths, 191 discharged from hospital, 3,149 completed isolation. 31,205 active cases in total *Nov 4th daily case* 2,986 new cases, 17 new deaths, 175 discharged from hospital, 4,912 completed isolation. 28,924 active cases in total. *Nov 5th daily case* 1,758 new cases, 9 new deaths, 119 discharged from hospital, 3,538 completed isolation, 27,025 active cases in total. Almost all the times, 98% of active cases are asymptomatic or having mild symptom while those who are critically ill and dead are mostly 60 y.o. and above and are mostly unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. Additional context for those who don't know, active cases is the real cases of currently infected people (total cumulative cases - total deaths - total recovered = active cases)
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 well a couple factors right, vax numbers, natural immunity, etc all contribute to lowering numbers but its far from gone... the concern is further wild mutation, cooling temps in the northern hemisphere drive people indoors and that's where alot of transmission is going to occur, nobody wants some new strain gaining foothold. i suppose if you live in some no population area, you can be more flippant, but higher popuplation centers have to be wary so as not to be completely overwhelmed, likely affecting the availability for normal emergency health concerns. so for those in positions of authority and healthcare, the angle of concern is different than some rando citizen, they're not better, but just have a greater number of people to consider, rather than just say you and your family or me and my family individuallly. its all part of living in a society and at least pretending to care about the future. from my perspective alot of the vax push is just about getting the workers back to the grind and making money for the wealthy, so the concern from 'up top' is hardly genuine human empathy.
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 where are you getting those numbers? According to the CDC website, the 7-Day rolling average for new cases, this past week, is 70,431. Meaning there were approximately 70,000 new cases a day, not 3,000 some. The average daily deaths for this past week, were 1100, not 12 LOL
Both are free to me, because evil gomunism no iphone VUVUZELA, however I have had severe pneumonia before, IT'S AWFUL when you cough and you see the yellow pus with your blood on it, you are drowning on your body trying to save you. Covid is WORSE, so I can only imagine how it must feel to choke on your own blood when you had a perfectly fine vaccine but refused to take it. I never stopped caring about my health since the last close shave with death, I genuinely cannot understand those that are so far gone that they refuse a simple jab.
@@LuizAlexPhoenix you might not understand it but they still have the right not to take it. The problem is that the people who don’t understand want to hold people down and force them. I’ve had COVID it was no big deal. My family had it and no one was hospitalized actually of the dozens that I personally know no one was hospitalized. I know of one person who has died but not personally and she was 300lbs or more. My nephew who is 23 got the shot because his employer made him and had major complications but I know many who had zero problems. Choice is the point not pro/anti-vax
@@rationalfemale5717 They have the right to where I live, but they should deal with the consequences. If you were fine with COVIF it's great but if you infected me I would have 90% odds of being sent to a ventilator, due to the pneumonia I mentioned. Even with all the care I take, double mask and visor, I could die and also kill the elderly in my family. If someone is so deeply irresponsible and uncaring to ignore that, I have zero empathy for them, as they clearly have none for me. They deserve their basic human rights to food, clothing, shelter and universal basic income to survive. However, since in our society they aren't going to get any of that, they should at least get severance pay and go look elsewhere for kindred spirits, preferably sign away their hospital beds so they don't take someone else's place. "It's them tough breaks, son", when people confuse personal freedom with privilege to harm others and then crawl back for help when the consequences hit. If someone where I work doesn't get the jab, they lose their job without pay, much like someone would if they went around the office naked because we can't force them to wear clothes. If you wanna do it, don't do it near me and those that asked you not to. If anything, I wouldn't mind people being naked, since it won't suddenly make me and my family risk dying or living with life long consequences of someone else's complete irresponsibility.
Oh god the mouse study is the one my own antivax relatives parroted at me, claiming they heard about it from an actual medical doctor on TH-cam. Now I sadly know what they were referring to.
There’s been multiple failed mouse studies with mRNA prior to Covid. Look up moderna mRNA fails. There are a couple articles from 2017 and before that are troubling. Especially when you know these vaccines have got to skip a lot of these steps they previously failed in bc Operation Warp Speed.
Russiagate and Hunter’s laptop coverup anyone? Better stay in your slowly shrinking bubbles. It’s a dangerous world out here actually thinking for yourself. 🫵🏼🥾👅🐑
@@scruffopone3989 Just in case you haven't figured it out, the op is being sarcastic. Shouldn't need to point that out but it's so hard to tell these days.
Jimmy's picking a fight with "breadtube" and partway through the video, he tried to attack Shaun and it's... laughable. Saying Shawn is funded by the Government and how it makes sense because of "how many resources went into this video to attack him." Basically saying "it's a good video, which is why you shouldn't trust it."
"Look at how many resources went into it!" (Video consists of a skull on the bottom right corner of a plain field the same colour as the walls in my gran's living room)
For people who think that finger click example was too general, there’s actually been a proven example of this sort of association. Uri Geller, famous quack, once sent a “psychic wave” through his show and HUNDREDS of people called in to report paranormal occurrences in their homes. Then, personal hero and Geller’s bane of existence, James Randi, did the same on HIS show and reaped the exact same results, despite dedicating his life to dispelling myths surrounding “spiritualism.”
Jimmy has been farther to the left than most TH-camrs, but that's no reason to to ignore rightful criticism of him. Never treat 'influencers' as having a perfect worldview.
Jimmy is barely left at all tbh. It kinda just seems like he was vaguely progressive and wanted to be a contrarian. Glad so many people are starting to see him for who he truly is, a reactionary, fear mongering dumbass
@@AldanFerrox He was attacked for force the vote and rejecting the two party system. People are multidimensional, and clearly Jimmy is riding this COVID misinformation train as well. Both are true, but we can still criticise him in this moment to try to discourage this behaviour.
Anyone remember that game where you play as a virus, bacteria, or spore? Remember the text that basically says "news networks spread disinformation about virus." And how it helps you -- the virus. I'm guessing these knobs never played that one.
Saw Jimmy Dore standup once. He ended without the closing joke cause, after berating the waiting staff from the stage for delivering the checks, he was too upset for them ignoring him to do it and just ended it there.
The tactic of telling so many lies that there isn't time or energy to refute them all has a name: "Gish Gallop", named after the creationist Duane Gish.
@@hello7032 yeah, 'let's say' is Shapiro's tell. When he says that, anything that follows is an imaginary scenario that doesn't map to reality in any way.
@user-lk7cv8vg7r thats cuz he isnt a leftist, just like tim pool he's a contrarian grifter looking to pump out ragebait for profit. Hasanabi, Chapo Trap House and Trueanon can be labeled as "scumbag leftists" yet they fully support civil rights movements, transvestite or otherwise. Dore is just an anti establishment conman
It's fun to transplant this mindset into extreme situations. Should we evacuate from this volcano? Is it actually about to erupt? Here's a report documenting how many people died during the evacuation in Fukushima. I have a lot of concerns. Btw, here's a link to my merchandise shop.
I remember Jimmy Dore from his TYT days, and I had an interaction with him at that time that I'd say was a good red flag for how he approaches information and conflicts. He said something factually incorrect in a TYT video, so I tweeted to him that what he said was incorrect, told him the correct information, and cited a couple of sources. As far as I can remember, I was polite. Jimmy responded by calling me fat and not addressing any of the points I made. Edit: to all the people asking for proof, I have unfortunately deleted the Twitter account in question, so my tweets aren't visible anymore, and I can't find an archive link. Jimmy's tweets are visible, but you can see my old handle in them, and I don't want to dox myself. Sorry, you're just going to have to take me at my word. To anyone who does manage to find these tweets, a very important thing to note: after I deleted my Twitter account, a different person seems to have registered using my handle. The person currently using that Twitter handle is NOT me.
@Thomas Hancock He can read, I assume? Public libraries are still free, the internet still exists? If he lacks education it's his own fault for not making the least effort. You don't have to go to college to be well informed. Textbooks are really expensive, but they aren't guarded by dragons. You can know everything professors know by reading all the books they read. What you mostly get from college amounts to a reading list with commentary from someone who was there ahead of you.
Jimmy Dore was main reason I stopped watching the TYT show years and years ago. Seemed like a very scummy dude and his bizarre plays at relevancy since have all been pretty sad and gross.
I do feel dumb for ever liking the guy, because on reflection (including your example as evidence), he hasn’t changed. He’s always been terrible. I guess TYT and the broader left community gave him a pass because he was on our team. Lessons to be learned.
Did you watch his video? Cause, honestly, Shaun misrepresent what Jimmy's point was. He was literally only talking about the vaccine not preventing outbreaks. Soooo.
@@Junebug89 How is he completely wrong? Please provide some evidence, because from what I see when I look around the world is that places with exceptionally high vaccination rates are having Omnicron outbreaks at close to the same rates as places with much lower vaccination rates. There is a good argument for vaccines, and that's to prevent hospitalizations due to the original and the delta variant. The problem is that people are so polarized for vaccines or against vaccines there's no nuance or looking at the data. This video shows that, because Jimmy's exclusively talking about the vaccine flattening the curve and even wiping it out. Both of which were not valid arguments. It's silly to point out that Jimmy is talking about cases only and not deaths when his point is that the vaccine hasn't prevented the spread at all. It's akin to someone saying "oh, bacon is bad for you, it leads to heart attacks" and then someone else going "oh, you liar, you didn't include that it was delicious."
So glad it came up at the end, because right at the start I was screaming, "ALONE! IT SAYS BETTER PROTECTION FROM VACCINATION ALONE! SO BOTH!" Sorry. I'm a medical laboratory scientist at an independent laboratory that does a LOT of COVID-19 testing. And since I'm the head of testing and the laboratory manager I'm the one who has to explain to patients calmly and kindly why the conspiracy theory they saw on Facebook doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny. All day, every day. I'm very tired.
@Gangoo LOL, I'm much better. I found a new job as the molecular specialist at a bigger lab. Very chill. I even get my own room since a bunch of my tests are light-sensitive.
That last point about sample bias because of the removal effect for people who got covid but did not survive is subtle but extremely important. Good catch.
In order to get that immunity it requires massive numbers of deaths. Immunity from catching COVID should include the death numbers because catching COVID killed them and now you have immunity. Vaccine immunity should also included the deaths by vaccines. When saving lives the deaths should be counts d
This is just some constructive criticism. While the Israeli study did find that combining vaccine induced immunity with natural immunity decreased odds of reinfection, the authors claim that this finding was not statistically significant: “Individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 seem to gain additional protection from a subsequent single-dose vaccine regimen. Though this finding corresponds to previous reports, we could not demonstrate significance in our cohort.” Loved the rest of the video though!
Studies have come out showing it to be the strongest. It's mixing the broader generalised antibody response of natural infection with the more consistent response from vaccine derived immunity.
@@Imperial_Squid I accept that "not statistically significant" and "could not demonstrate significance" are different statements, and I should have been clearer in my own critique. However, I don't think this distinction does much to absolve Shaun. First, inability to demonstrate significance implies an inconclusive result, not a result that demonstrates the superior efficacy of natural + vaccinated immunity. From my interpretation, Shaun implied the latter rather than the former. Second, the comparison of previously infected individuals to previously infected + vaccinated individuals (Model 3 in the study) involved a sample size n = 14,029 persons which I would argue is sufficient to obtain conclusive levels of statistical significance were a meaningful causal relationship present.
The problem though again comes back to the filtering. Those previously-infected individuals survived, therefore a significant portion of them likely had minimal or no symptoms from the original infection, in which case demonstrating significance of having both natural immunity and a vaccine over just natural immunity would be nearly impossible to do without a colossally huge sample size. What the stronger focus should be on is whether there was a significant increase of negative outcomes for people with both natural and vaccine immunity vs. those with only natural immunity. There shouldn't be a focus on "is this worth bothering with?", but "is there a specific reason to avoid it?"
@@bblvrable The issue is that a government enforced mandate places the onus on the government to justify an intervention against bodily autonomy. It shouldn’t be incumbent on the individual whose bodily autonomy is being violated to justify why their autonomy should not be violated.
@@vinaytummarakota3044 You're talking about an entirely separate issue. The issue at hand is whether or not vaccination is beneficial to those who have already been infected and recovered.
Speaking of tinnitus, I think anyone who suffers from tinnitus will agree that FEAR of tinnitus actually WORSENS the tinnitus. It's a fairly well understood phenomena. Someone could have mild tinnitus and not have even noticed it until it got temporarily worsened OR they read online about something like the vaccine causing it. When your brain notices the sound it identifies it subconsciously as a danger and therefore makes it louder to you, its absolutely possible that this could be what is happening to the people saying that the vaccine gave them tinnitus.
I've had Tinnitus for almost 2 years. I don't notice it 99% of the time. My strategy to deal with it is to just ignore it. Sometimes it even seems like it's not there at all. :)
How about when Optimus Prime died _but_ "there's a _new_ hero!"... Rodimus Prime...?! I can't believe I liked that goofy stuff as a kid. From the creative minds behind "laser candy" and robot dinosaur aliens. Lol. Transformers were so goofy. Get your shots, folks. And don't trust hucksters over actual medical experts. Cheers, and be well.
You know this video really aged well. First Jimmy recognised he misinterpreted an article and claimed he fired the editor responsible. Then he made a really weird tangeant about Shaun being a CIA asset because of his "high production value" wich is just hilarious. Shaun fact checked him so hard he had to make a second conspiracy theory to continue peddling the first one.
My tinnitus has worsened this year despite protecting my ears most of the time. It really sucks. I can understand why someone would want something to blame. When I first got tinnitus I wasn't sure if it was caused by my antidepressant or not, but just to be safe I switched to a new one because it was a known rare side effect.
What is your bio-copper status? Bio-copper is sooooo critical to energy Mg-ATP production and endogenous anti-oxidant management, yet it isn't highlighted like it ought to be. The biochemistry is there. The specialized research scientists know, but the M.D.'s do not. The biggest antagonist to whatever level of bio-copper you have is excess iron. Metallic iron filings were added in the processed foold supply back in 1941 -- literal iron shavings! I no longer ingest them. I want natural nutrients in my food, not removed and replaced with iron filings and synthetic nutrients that drive those filings into the cells faster and deeper. th-cam.com/video/Iq94ROB5qEs/w-d-xo.html The presenter just came out with a book recently called Cure Your Fatigue. Word on the street is that Dr. Mercola will be interviewing him soon.
Well yeah but you didn’t then say that antidepressants cause tinnitus and go on a massive TH-cam campaign trying to tell people to not take antidepressants.
You know who has a suspicious "profit motive"? ... media outlets and social media influencers that write headlines and produce content based on studies that are pre-print and not yet peer reviewed. That's not responsible journalism. That is not providing value to the public at large. It's sensationalism for profit. Those people and platforms should be held to account by the public that they are mistreating. If there was a way to deny them their profits it would remove the incentive for this kind of irresponsible misbehavior.
@@s7d788 I don't know. I mean, the idea is to give other scientists access to the data to check it and that's a fine idea cause scientists treat pre-print like pre-print that needs to be checked before taken as truth. Pre-print is not the problem, capitalist driven journalism is.
I tried that argument with my anti-vax ex-girlfriend but it seems that for a lot of people, the lack of trust in institutions just makes them seek any information that will reinforce this point of view, no matter how shitty they are. They just have a hard time nuancing their world-view I think.
Jimmy used to have nothing nice or pleasant to describe FOX "News" but nowadays he sits down with their most dishonest propagandist no problem. Just because they're the only MSM who'd have him on.
@@charlesballiet7074 Jimmy doesn't really address the arguments Shaun makes here. For example, with the article editing, Jimmy says his producer added "despite" and fired him for it. However, that doesn't address how Jimmy didn't acknowledge that Singapore had strict lockdowns, vaccinated a majority of the population, then eliminated the lockdowns, then saw an uptick in cases, all the while noting that hospitalizations and deaths are still quite low.
@@qmulus1 He panders to the right. That’s for sure. But you’re also subscribed to Larry Elder, Lauren Southern, Officer Tatum, JP Sears, and two Tim Pools channels, so you’re probably into that.
If 100% vax and everyone resumes normal life, all new cases will be those of vaxed people. that has no meaning if cases remain low. "biggest outbreak ever" also has no context...compared to itself? compared to other countries? An increase in cases is predictable if you had zero cases during lockdown then an "increase" after people go back to normal life.
@@WayneBraack they didn’t, they said “an increase in cases is predictable if you had zero cases during lockdown” meaning, of course there is an increase if there were none and now there are some. They’re making the point that you can’t compare it to anything other than previous numbers for itself, which is in itself biased. The first person killed each day is an increase in deaths that day, two people die the next day you can state “100% increase in deaths since yesterday” The best thing to do is look at infection to death ratio, I believe is their point. If the ratio goes down, whatever we’re doing is working. If 100% are vaxxed and then 100% become infected, but 0% die, that is a good vax or a nonfatal virus, both of which are good news, but that is a perfect world and we are not in that world so people don’t do what they say and the people telling other people to do things don’t always have the best intentions, which becomes a vicious circle
I had subbed to Dore for a while but the first red flag was him slobbering over Tulsi Gabbard, who proved to be a right-wing plant who endorsed Biden over Sanders. His vilification of any mild criticism of him was also suspicious but the gaslighting is unforgivable. The anti-science stuff was pretty much what had me get over his stuff. Jimmy's picked his lot with the libertarians and the anarchists who are both unfortunately not well-read and very malleable, which is why many right-wing plants try to sell their anti-establishment cred to that crowd.
@@qmulus1 2016 was when she was still trying to create a narrative and get a bigger role. Tulsi Gabbard's past endorsements are as valuable as Krysten Sinema's pre-Senate policies.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 She knew she’d become a pariah by breaking with the establishment and throwing in with Sanders. She’s the only one who had the balls to do it. And that is the quality that separates her from Bernie: balls. Bernie didn’t want to win in 2020. After South Carolina, we all knew it. There was no point in endorsing a candidate who didn’t want it.
A right-winger who endorsed Biden? I thought that he would endorse other left-wingers like Sanders or Yang, if not simply right-wingers themselves. Still, it does make sense for a fool to endorse another fool, regardless of side (and I say this as someone who is left-leaning but is frustrated with both parties).
This is how it is with every video that criticizes Jimmy. How it’s been for years. All these right wing JD cheerleaders swarm with their bad faith bullshit after the rest of us have moved on. This video is popular enough that they still get pretty drowned out overall. They’re usually more successful. Jimmy has such fittingly scummy fans.
Where are all the people claiming Dore has been vindicated getting their (mis)information from? It's now 2024, lockdowns are long over, covid has become a background annoyance for most of us at worst, and the world is generally back on its feet. And how are they able to completely overlook the many clear examples of Dore outright lying in the video?
That bit about how Dore covers the article from Singapore should be shown to ever single one of his subscribers. He's a lying, grifting fraud who doesn't deserve any attention or respect. Absolutely disgusting.
There's no plausible deniability whatsoever, either. You can't even say he read 1 part and disregarded the rest. He read the whole article, combed it, and even changed the wording in order to mislead his viewers about what it says. He is lying, ranting trash who unfortunately a lot of people still listen to as an 'anti-establishment' 'left-wing' voice.
@@TurtleChad1 One of the best career paths in this century is telling conservatives what they want to hear. The great thing about it is that it doesn't even matter whether you're starting out on the right (Glenn Beck, Candace Owens) or the left (Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin), you just need to put yourself out there, push the right buttons, and build an audience.
I don't understand how anyone who thinks of themselves as being center or left could watch him after the way he behaved on Carlson's show. That was one of the first things I watched when I looked up Dore upon first hearing his name to see what I thought he was like. Realized very quickly that he was a grifter leaning further and further right for money.
Tucker Carlson is left-wing when it comes to foreign policy, which is the only thing him & Jimmy agree on. Have you got nothing on him that you have to resort to attempts at guilt by association?
How dare someone go into the belly of the beast to try to change the minds of others. How dare they act amicable towards each other. They must be such "GOOD" friends lol!
Hi Shaun, the author of the Singapore article is calling him a liar as well. It's all thanks to your good work. Hopefully this will cause the dominoes to fall.
Lol no way, sadly. His thousands of supporters are still there to keep him afloat and the sub number is still insanely high. In a few days everybody will forget about this and it will be business as usual. And in a few months he will use this situation to prove how many have been trying to "cancel" him but will fail to explain the real reason why.
@@lorelange You're probably right, but since the author is now involved maybe there's at least a chance his "Vaccine Questioning" vaccines will be shut down for the anti-vaccine propaganda that they are. Is it possible for us to flag his videos- at least the Singapore one? If he's not making $$$ my guess is his interest in vaccines and mandates will fade to nothing.
I did just flag the Singapore video. If you want to do so as well go here for the original video: th-cam.com/video/ph-co5r_ylA/w-d-xo.html it's pretty easy and I sited this video.
"We are pleased to report that, so far, the only significant finding has been that if you force a baby squirrel to smoke seven-hundred cannabis joints a day, he will become disoriented, seems to take the laws of self-preservation less seriously, tending to play with his nuts rather than store them."
@@drivetone7942 Yeah, anecdotes do not mean crap, especially when the Ministry of Health in that country could not find any evidence to verify. Basically, it is hear-say of an anecdote when there has been literally zero other cases while other side-effects have been verified.
I'm dying to find a right-wing youtube channel that says things like 'I encourage you thoroughly check my sources so you can be sure I'm not misrepresenting things'. So far, no success.
Actually, a lot of right wingers claim to "do their own research". It's usually all too obvious that they lack even the most minimal understanding of how to research a topic. I suspect a lot of them are simply lying, and those that aren't think research means to visit their nearest propaganda outlet, find something they agree with, and call it a day. I'm mostly unconvinced that a right-wing outlet encouraging as you suggest would make a difference.
I know PragerU does but often, when checked, the sources' links either don't work or the actual source was misrepresented or completely comes to the opposite conclusion than the rightwing hacks that used it. The most hilarious and disappointing thing is that they correctly assume their core audience will not bother to check because they know they are lazy, easily led numptys.
I think Aydin Paladin does (?) Even if they do, it doesn't matter if the audience never bothers to check, and even if a few do, it still doesn't matter if they don't speak up about it, and if they do speak up, it doesn't matter because they will be drowned out/won't be heard Even if they are, there are other tactics, like cherry-picking citations to form the narrative in the first place, or relying on other people's lack of qualifications on the subject
As someone who lives in Singapore, the safety I feel with current vaccinations being so high as well checks that keep vaccinated people away from malls is indescribable. I have a fully vaccinated at-risk parent who is provided free booster shots, and I know that even if a case occurs the hospitals are not bogged like they were when I was in Europe and are available to give care to severe cases, of which there are very few. Singapore has had a great track record of being ahead of the curve on the pandemic, and I think a lot of countries could learn a thing or two about them.
My uncle works in a hospital in Singapore. From what I understand, the spike in cases was due to the non citizen workers from mostly india all being packed into boarding facilities with deplorable conditions. It was basically the fault of the government completely overlooking the people with no rights who make the country able to function. I hope they rectify their despotism and massive social inequity, but it is a very safe country and I feel like my family is safe there. lots of racism against non chinese there though.
American reactionaries’ fantasies about other countries are always both baffling to anyone who lives in those places, and a fascinating subject in itself. They think Australia is a totalitarian nightmare, and that British cities in the midlands are run by sharia law.
@@alexhiggins5911 Sorry but American fantasies are just sad, because they influence everyone else. Like the ilusion of democracy where they vote for two old white men, one of which calls for war on the brown people and the other on the yellow people or whatever. Then neither delivers on the promises for their own voters and blame the other wing of their party.
@@Alejandro-te2nt i agree some of the working conditions and treatment of other races in Singapore are definitely not great. i was just commenting on their systemic war on covid, that’s all
@@Alejandro-te2nt I understand this re: India, India was getting absolutely destroyed by COVID just earlier this year IIRC. It took them very long to start getting vaccines, I think they were eventually able to start manufacturing their own vaccines though, I think?
I don't think that Jimmy truly believes that Shaun is funded by the CIA. The man knows he has a bunch of conspiracy theorists subscribers and knows they will eat up the typical "FuNdEd bY CiA" rhetoric. Fella is a grifter
@@celticcomradelad1850 Honestly he may actually be that insane. Recall he also said Trump getting 3 Supreme Court picks is as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan. I think you're probably right, but the guy is completely delusional so I'm not totally sure.
As someone who often agrees politically with Dore, I loved this meticulous & thorough takedown of Jimmy’s covid rhetoric. I watched his show fairly regularly at one point but his constant cherry-picking of vaccine info lost me. He’s intentionally spreading misinformation. And his “apology” video regarding the Singapore article he lied about only solidified my decision to walk away for good. He’s lost.
there is no way in hell you have seen his videos and consider him anti-vax at the same time, not remotely possible to be true. He has said multiple times that he is pro-vaccine, think people in risk groups should take it, has taken it himself. He just is against mandates and thinks its fair to ask questions about vaccine safety. That is not REMOTELY anti-vax. that is a reasonably minded thought process
i grew up on a commun that was deep into alternative medicine and im just trying to unlearn all the bullshit ive been taught for 19 years,, thanks Shaun
Step 1: learn to distinquish good from bad Information - know what logical fallacies are, the scientific method, how good argueing, journalism works etc.(persuasive or general emotional argueing should be a redflag, entertainers presenting "the truth" should be a redflag..etc.) Step 2: replace mis Informationen with unbiased knowledge in different fields (listen to experts and different opinions) Step 3: dont get overconfident - everyone can make mistakes or get tricked (learn to recognize propaganda or bad arguments..) I dont envy people growing up with this amount and kind of media
He's a comedian? Can't believe you would tell lies like this
Hi hbomb
Could have fooled me
I guess we gotta cancel Shaun for saying that :(
Just like Steven Crowder
Can't believe Shaun would do this.
Leave a like if u cried
“By themselves, Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend’s giant balls can’t tell us anything about the COVID-19 vaccine.” is the best quote i’ve heard in my entire life
Remember when ol' Tucker asked for Nicki's Cousin's friend with the massive balls (who likely doesn't even exist) to come onto his nationally-broadcast television show?
Hilarious. Good times.
It’s true though… more true than anything Jimmy says at least
I can only imagine the relief of making it through that line of the script without betraying the broad, beaming delight of having written it in the first place. Shaun's delivery was, to coin a concept, outstandingly modest.
It can tell us something about society though. People are so gullible :(
i was antivaxx but when i heard that the vaccine could give me exxxtra phat nutz i signed up immediately
You go to some kind of TH-cam convention. You see on the map that Shawn has his own booth. You walk to where it says he should be, but there is only a skull with sunglasses on the table.
"He must be getting lunch." you say.
"No, Hbomberguy is doing a sandwich run for a few of us." corrects the skull.
but does the skull make a clickety-clack noise when it moves its jaw? important question here
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I wouldn't think so, unless Sean normally uses a clack-cancelling headset in his vids.
@@vt_973 Hbomberguy is literally the Top-Comment here,
so i probably dont have to say this, butt in case you didnt knew: Hbomberguy made an
absolutely awesome video about Vaccines and the True Origin/Root of Anti-Vaxx-Ideas.
@@THATGuy5654 SEAN?! his name is RIGHT there! it’d be like me calling you “THAT man”, shame on you
@@toadsworld
Yeah, I managed to misspell it 2 different ways in 2 different replies on the same chain. 😅
Shaun has made his entire career by just reading the sources
I believe so, but he apparently has a preference for the more shady sources fed by big pharma.
@@neverreadtheguardian2886 He didn't choose the sources. He read Jimmy's.
@@weareallbornmad410That was their point.
@@weareallbornmad410that’s literally what he meant lol Shaun refutes most of these people simply by actually reading the sources they themselves provided
To be a career he'd need to earn a living out of it wouldn't he?
Babe wake up, new Shaun video about something I've not heard of but will still watch fifteen times just dropped.
I'm just glad I'm not the only one
Was rushing to the comments section to make the babe wake up comment
“The relative metabolic rates of mice and men” is my favorite sequel
Time to bring Lennie down to the creek to teach him about vaccines
The finale of the trilogy is "The tensile strength & structural integrity of mice and men".
If someone skips paragraphs of an article, 99% chance it's because it's information they don't agree with.
Or as Tim Pool would say “I’m not going to get into the nitty gritty”
@@kamijk - To be fair facts can be considered nitty and gritty.
@@kamijk I watched Tim Pool for awhile. Can't stand to listen to him now. Says something then contradicts himself 15 seconds later.
In this media climate? Really? Everyone skips pieces to prove their points. That is just current day journalism.
@@deathmagneto-soy Can feelings be considered gritty and/or nitty?
Not the first time Dore has been called out for changing the text of an article he quotes. I used to like his content but as Shaun points out, Dore has changed tack significantly.
It's rather funny because Dore used to often say in a joking way that if someone paid him enough he would say whatever they wanted him to.
Guess someone finally did!
Hbomberguy is literally the Top-Comment here,
so i probably dont have to say this, butt in case you didnt knew: Hbomberguy made an
absolutely awesome video about Vaccines and the True Origin/Root of Anti-Vaxx-Ideas.
@@loturzelrestaurant are the true origins the Wuhan Lab? Because fauci still doesn’t deny that it’s lab originated ….
let me guess people who are hating on Jimmy Dore probably The Young Turks fans on here LOL😂 of course you're going to hate the guy because he disagrees and you guys are fucking brainwashed and you'll never admit to your side being wrong about anyting.
@@loturzelrestaurant you know what's annoying is people saying that others who disagree with this vaccine or who do not want this vaccine are anti-vax. not wanting one vaccine doesn't make you anti-vax because you don't trust it. I would argue that trying to force people to take a vaccine telling them that they'll lose their job or they'll lose their paycheck or be taken off of a schedule because they didn't inject something into their bodies they didn't want is more dangerous and is actual tyranny not what Jimmy is doing. so you can take vaccines your whole entire life even a flu shot every year but the one time you don't want to take a vaccine because you think something's wrong with it or you just don't trust it you are automatically labeled anti-vaxxer. And then what people want to write stupid articles from where the origins of anti-vaxxers came from LOL😂
Dore tells more truth in one video than Neoliberals and the mainstream corporate media do all year. FOH.
Once every three months Shaun is like “here’s why this talking head you’ve never heard of is dishonest or a dummy or both” and I eat it right up
I envy you if hadn't been subjected to Jimmy dore before
Check out this life haver. What a weirdo
You've never heard of Dore, good for you protect your psyche
OH MY GOD I ENVY YOU SO MUCH
I truly am jealous you’ve never been subjected to jimmy dore.
Shaun: "Jimmy Dore is a comedian ..."
This is now officially Shaun's hottest take.
Vaccine related disinformation
Should've added "alleged"
In Dore's defense, he is quite a funny person. It's probably not intentional tho
I think calling Blumenthal a journalist is also a contender
@@peterptchronic9696 Lol deserved savagery on this topic aside, Max and The Grayzone more broadly actually does do quite a bit of excellent journalism, but I guess to generalize it I would say exclusively on US empire, the CIA plot to kill Assange recently confirmed by Michael Isikoff (an ardent proponent of all the Russiagate shit it might be worth noting considering the loose Russia-Assange connections ie doesn't inherently line up with that narrative and in many ways contradicts it but yet his sources corroborated Max's investigation; Russiagate itself effectively a strand of this same kind of vague correlating and reflexive inverting of certain authorities, _despite_ that distrust being warranted more generally, clearly I digress lol) for example was pretty thoroughly put together like a year prior by him. But you know even still, just be skeptical of everything anyway, obviously we don't have to blindly trust or agree with people that we happen to "like" or trust in certain circumstances. We do after all live in late-stage capitalist hellscape and so all that is solid is indeed melting into bullshit, and there's no vaccine to become immune from the pure ideology *_*sniff_** and inherent social fracturing it effectively demands of us all to merely survive.
_"Immaturity is the inability to use one's understanding without guidance from another."_ - I Kant Believe it's not Butler (aka Kant)
and of course if circumstantially unfamiliar with not-so-subtle reference in last sentence,
_"The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionizing the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society. Conservation of the old modes of production in unaltered form, was, on the contrary, the first condition of existence for all earlier industrial classes. Constant revolutionizing of production, uninterrupted disturbance of all social conditions, everlasting uncertainty and agitation distinguish the bourgeois epoch from all earlier ones. All fixed, fast-frozen relations, with their train of ancient and venerable prejudices and opinions, are swept away, all new-formed ones become antiquated before they can ossify. All that is solid melts into air, all that is holy is profaned, and man is at last compelled to face with sober senses his real conditions of life, and his relations with his kind."_ - some guy, apparently a bit too optimistic at the end we wouldn't just individually choose delusion while everything burns (Marx)
_“No-one knew what was required; instead, individuals could only guess what particular gestures or directives meant. What happens in late capitalism, when there is no possibility of appealing, even in principle, to a final authority which can offer the definitive official version, is a massive intensification of that ambiguity.”_ - obligatory Mark Fisher
I'm pretty sure Blood Aspiration is a skill barbarians get at level 8
LOL, thank you for that laugh.
Common misconception, but it's actually a Passive Ability unlocked once a Mage-specific character unlocks the "Sanguine Sorcerer" Subclass at around level 15 (or 12 if the character has the "Vampirism" perk.)
Lmfao 🤣
All IM injections are supposed to be administered by aspirating the syringe as not to accidentally inject the medication directly into a blood vessel. If you are ever in hospital, and you are to receive a powerful pain relief med. be sure and tell the doctor not to bother aspirating the needle, because you are smarter than all the doctors and nurses that were trained To Aspirate The Needle
It's a Demon Art created by one of the Upper Moons, probably the guy who has all those eyes.
Cool video but it was really weird to end it with flashing lights for another 50 minutes telling me to obey the CIA and tell me to commit a series of secret coups in different countries what's up with that Shaun?
I think they snuck acid into your brownies, because you're hallucinating CIA interference lmao.
CEASE YOUR INVESTIGATIONS
Check your programming again, they want you to make "soup", not do a "coup".
that explains my sudden will to make a coup in Argentina...
I just went to ukraine and did a coup, to soon?
Shaun: "Hello everyone"
My day: instantly improves
Seeing the video is 50 minutes long: fail no nut November
so true
@@evanahearne1479 And it's maybe a good thing because studies show that it is bad for your health, there is some molecules like putrescine in the semen that seems to increase probability to get prostate cancer.
100% the best reason to follow him on twitch as well :)
I was so very pleased when I saw the video suggestion.
Shaun really took a bullet for everyone on this. Imagine having to slog through Jimmy's content in order to debunk... woof
its even worse; Dores loser fans are going to swarm all of Shauns videos.
This is the literal equivalent of what Timbah.on.toast did with Rubin & O'Keefe.
And I love him for it.
@@elsanto2401 - Let them. They ain't got sh*t. Speaking as an ex-Dore fan.
@@deathmagneto-soy i thought he was pretty funny and bought his book years back an when i started to read it, it was like, "oh, god..." I've never told anyone that story.
@@deathmagneto-soy There is NOTHING Dore-knobs hate more than an ex-Dore fan. Nothing.
When Shaun said "The Metabolic Rates of Mice and Men" my first thought was a short story for biochemists wherein one antibacterial sample has to shoot his friend antibacterial sample because it also destroys human tissue, like "think of the Ribosomes, Lennie"
Would be good name for a science paper/article.
Same. I wanted to pull a finger gun, touche sort of response. 😎👉👉
Red and blue and green Ribosomes
I’m a writer, please give me permission to use this idea.
@@mindfulselfindulgence omg I'm a physicst who cannot write for the life of me please do
I literally had a anti vaxxer yell at me that they hope I get heart damage like the mice in the study so yes it does get around thanks Jimmy.
Stupidity may not be a virus but it sure spreads like one.
I hope you're up to date on your boosters. Only 15% are up to date on their immunizations, that's a lot of fucking antivaxxers.
@@dalekrenegade2596
>Proceeds to side with every Pro-Pharmaceutical industry talking point
@@MichaelJ44 Jimmy sucks get over it.
@@MichaelJ44 So are you for the nationalisation of pharmaceutical companies if you are so against big pharma?
Anecdote on the tinnitus issue: I've had horrific tinnitus and pulsatile tinnitus for 18 months with long covid.
I wouldn't be surprised if it could also be triggered by your immune response to the vaccine, but I'd much rather a temporary case from that than the clusterfuck that's long covid 😑
tinnitus sucks ass, i hope you've been finding ways to cope with it! mine has come and gone for decades and i wouldn't wish it on anybody.
God, that must be awful. Hope you get better soon. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but what's long covid? Is that a nickname for one of the variants?
@@Tanuki-cl7qi it's an ongoing set of symptoms that carries on far longer than you actually have the virus. it's (potentially) caused by the virus attaching to neurons. common symptoms include fatigue, shortness of breath, brain fog / memory issues, muscle pain, dizziness, tinnitus, and others. it can last over a year and be debilitating.
I had both jabs , then contracted COVID , and now have tinnitus. It’s a pain.
P.s. I am not an anti vax person.
Oh god, I hadn't even heard about this particular symptom. I already have severe tinnitus, so thank god for the vaccine tbh, I don't want this to get any worse
This is the problem, it's takes 30 seconds to spout misinformation. It then takes a much longer time to break down why it's misinformation and disprove it.
Yup. It's called the Gish Gallop.
A great old quote about this: "A lie can make it around the world before the truth even gets its boots on"
@@aaronmarks9366 I came here to say exactly this quote. 👍🏻
The upside of though is that there's an endless stream of shit to debunk and it makes for great content.
By the time you've disproven a lie, the people who fell for it have vanished into a cave system of other interconnected lies and will tune you out under the assumption that you are yourself lying on behalf of bankers, _bankers,_ aliens, the slavering legions of Hell, or the CIA. For something that can be built so quickly and cheaply, a complex of lies is impossibly durable. If you need a foundation for a business, you can't do better.
On the mouse study, those mistakes are literally why peer review and replication of data is necessary in science, any experiment should be repeated, but especially high-profile studies with major mistakes
Did they ever address the telomere issue?
Look up the legislation surrounding Emergency Use Authorization.
Aspirating before injecting the vaccines would be a good precaution. Shaun gets it s wee bit wrong... CDC and WHO (and NIH) don't actually recommend against it. They merely say it isn't necessary. There's some history and such involved with that you probably don't care about, but the important part is that they don't say accidentally hitting a blood vessel never happens. They say it is very unlikely. For most common IM vaccines and medicines, accidentally putting it directly into a blood vessel isn't likely to cause a problem. That's not the case for all medicines though. There are drugs that will mess you up if they end up going directly into the bloodstream, and those injections require aspiration.
Most folks assumes the mRNA vaccines were in the "not a problem" category. The mouse study shows that it is quite possibly in the "really needs to be IM, so check by aspiration" category.
Most of the criticisms he mentions are valid, but don't really call into question the overall results of the study. Mice aren't humans... The conclusion was just that there is a particular way the mRNA vaccines *could* be particularly bad (which doesn't apply to many other vaccines) if they accidentally get injected into the bloodstream. The idea that the rare occasion a supposedly IM injection accidentally ends up going into a blood vessel *might* be associated with the rare serious side effects which look a lot like what happens if you give mice the vaccine IV (but doesn't happen when you give mice the same dose IM)... It seems pretty *plausible*. Precautionary principle seems to say we should aspiratie when giving these vaccines to humnas. The reason to not aspirate is very weak after all (it takes a second more and might hurt a tiny bit more).
BTW: There's another study which did pretty much the same experiment with the adenovirus based vaccine... And showed that IV administration causes clotting problems, just like we see as a very rare but bad side effect in people getting the vaccine. That paper has a lot more detailed biochemistry explaining the possible mechanism, so even more plausibly applicable to humans.
Oh, and some other places do require aspiration before injecting for the COVID vaccines. Denmark's guidelines use the phrase "precautionary principle" IIRC.
PS: John Campbell isn't anti-vaxx. The anti-vaxx crowd glommed onto him because he talked about vitamin D and is a bit too credulous about those crap IVM studies. His videos are ok... The comment sections on them are horrendous.
@@travcollier incredibly thoughtful and detailed information. As I navigate this space, not this channel specifically but the topic in general, I only see this kind of practice going one way. Absolutely, as you mention there are atrocious comments albeit I’ve seen more than a fair share in both directions. What I find so disappointing is how quickly every single person is grouped as if they are atrocious on top of being anti science and anti vaccine, regardless of an individuals calls of having taken the vaccine or of recommending others take it or encouraging people speak with their doctor, especially if at high risk. I can’t help but see a pattern where any topic which might even remotely be considered as useful for a bad fair (or atrocious) individual to use in an argument or which has the slightest chance to discourage someone from being vaccinated, there is an all out attack on that topic and anyone who might participate in it. And I will reiterate that those individuals who even participate in said discussion are loudly grouped with people holding some of the most extreme anti views. It’s such a shame not only because it feels terribly wrong and in my opinion is doing long term damage to credibility and crushing the last bits of civility we might have had but the real crime is how there has never been a better time to unite the peoples of a number of countries and it could be passing us by. It’s so ripe for unity and thoughtful progress but we’re just not quite there yet. I have hope though and with thoughtful discord like yours maybe we can get people to take a step back for long enough to see the faces of those we’re all so angry with and with luck we can see ourselves enough to tolerate a little more and add a pinch of patience with a dash of empathy, (maybe a handful) to make something incredible.
We’ll see how it goes, cheers.
This is a trickier one... I only actually recently discovered jimmy dore because I follow kyle kulinski and heard him talking about some beef he had with TYT.
Later the video being talked about appeared in my feed because I follow dr. John Campbell (among a few other's I've looked into and don't appear to have any ties to any conspiracy movement, but give long winded, detailed, nuanced explanations of the latest developments).
Campbell is using the mice study, and the survey to speculate a possible link between rare accidental intravenous injection, and rates of rare side effects. He admits the data isn't very reliable, but it would potentially make sense and is worth studying further.
He was surprised to learn that the CDC is actually recommending against aspiration, as this contradicts not only what he learned in medical school, but pfizer and Moderna's own instructions.
He's suggesting, why wouldn't doctors just aspirate anyway since that's always been standard practice, and if its bad if the vaccines get in your bloodstream... then why not be better safe than sorry no matter how rare or how few blood vessels there are there?
The official advice from the CDC is recommending against the practice because it might be slightly more painful. Furthermore, if people are already scared of needles and this one is painful, it might scare them off in future...
I asked my doctor about this, she said yes it is standard practice to aspirate. She said a lot of people don't bother when the injection site has very few blood vessels as its rare for it to be an issue and people get comfortable, but they're supposed to do it...
So while I'm not qualified to say who is correct. The CDC guidance is not universal, many public health bodies around the world reccomend the opposite. It really depends on the country... so I lean towards dr. Campbell's advice
An important point about the mouse study, animal studies usually cannot be generalised to humans anyway, especially mouse or rat studies. They can inform directions for future research on human samples but you shouldn't draw definite conclusions from them (especially when the sample size of one or more groups is 6)
what I appreciate most about Shaun as a presenter is that I never come away thinking, "damn these people are idiots". I'm always left examining my own assumptions closer and questioning the info/media that I consume, which I think is a testament to the nuance of his approach to media criticism.
I'd be so pleased and proud to receive a compliment like this if I made content like Shaun does. And what you've said is the point, I think. There'll always be grifters; giving people the tools to see through the grift is what will help in the long-run.
To be fair.. In this case I came away thinking both.
found the Dore fan
@@willscott1533 lol what? I hate that guy
This is a trickier one... I only actually recently discovered jimmy dore because I follow kyle kulinski and heard him talking about some beef he had with TYT.
Later the video being talked about appeared in my feed because I follow dr. John Campbell (among a few other's I've looked into and don't appear to have any ties to any conspiracy movement, but give long winded, detailed, nuanced explanations of the latest developments).
Campbell is using the mice study, and the survey to speculate a possible link between rare accidental intravenous injection, and rates of rare side effects. He admits the data isn't very reliable, but it would potentially make sense and is worth studying further.
He was surprised to learn that the CDC is actually recommending against aspiration, as this contradicts not only what he learned in medical school, but pfizer and Moderna's own instructions.
He's suggesting, why wouldn't doctors just aspirate anyway since that's always been standard practice, and if its bad if the vaccines get in your bloodstream... then why not be better safe than sorry no matter how rare or how few blood vessels there are there?
The official advice from the CDC is recommending against the practice because it might be slightly more painful. Furthermore, if people are already scared of needles and this one is painful, it might scare them off in future...
I asked my doctor about this, she said yes it is standard practice to aspirate. She said a lot of people don't bother when the injection site has very few blood vessels as its rare for it to be an issue and people get comfortable, but they're supposed to do it...
So while I'm not qualified to say who is correct. The CDC guidance is not universal, many public health bodies around the world reccomend the opposite. It really depends on the country... so I lean towards dr. Campbell's advice
its so satisfying to listen to shaun go through dore’s crappy arguments point by point in a clear and concise manner. honestly, the bad arguments fall apart as soon as shaun applies simple facts and step-by-step logic.
Shawn OWNS leftist grifter with FACTS and LOGIC.
@@PittsburghSonido Unlike Shabibo he actually uses facts and logic
@brady alex I had tinnitus after I got vaccinated.
I also had tinnitus *before* I got vaccinated.
I blame gunfire.
Facts dont care about dore's feelings
I come to Shaun videos in the mindset that an argument is being laid to rest just by seeing that he decided to upload a video responding to them. He's methodical.
As a scientist, at first I was really mad and borderline offended you would suggest that the authors "mixed the samples up". I've had reviewers make comments like that in the past and it's usually a super assinine critique, basically along the lines of "I can't see anything wrong with your results, but I can't believe your conclusion, so you must be wrong.". I always say that as a scientist you should spend about 1/5th of your time at the bench labeling things and recording them into your notebook. We put a huge ammount of effort into making sure that mix ups don't happen, and we go to such great efforts to validate and repeat our results that mix ups typically get caught. When we get a weird result the typical response is "Oh really? Let's regenotype or see if we can see the same thing with different animals, reagents, etc.", this is the stage where many unusual findings die.
But then when you showed the image flip and rotate, I was like "Oh boy, saying they mixed things up is GENEROUS!" That looks like data falsification if I've ever seen it, and anybody who suggests it's an "accident" is being polite. Not only is it the same sample, it's probably the same image, which is harder to mix up. Unless you're a complete lazy slob, whenever you go to publish you usually have several images that demonstrate the result you want to show, and you choose which one is the most clear or most representative. Doing the experiment without taking useable images is a massive waste of time. When things are contentious, it can help to publish all of the raw images in the supplement. Using the same image across multiple figures raises eyebrows even when everything's labeled correctly (because the implication is that you didn't do the experiment enough times to have the all the control images). Labeling the same image differently usually gets a paper rejected. This paper WILL be retracted!
Are you talking about the portion of the video addressing alleged cytotoxicity in mice?
And they cropped it to show the portion that…didn’t show any damage anyway? Some people should lose their jobs and grants
How about this disgruntled Robert Malone guy. Twitter finally nuked his account
@Alex Fantini
Lol you dont think I've thoroughly looked into this guy and all his wacky claims? I wasnt born yesterday, like you. He's a psycho. Go see what other medical professionals and researchers have to say about him.
I love your reaction. Absolutely incredible "mistake".
23:40 I was just about to comment that you missed the perfect opportunity for an “Of Mice and Men” joke, and then you immediately made one. Beautiful comedic timing from Shaun there!
I always imagine Shaun like Columbo, just casually pointing out the flaws in his subject's arguments
If Columbo was a real person and alive today, he'd probably like Shaun's videos.
That'd be a pretty funny gag though. Like, almost wrapping up the video and then going "Ah, just one more little thing..." multiple times.
@@kingofsting19 he’s real in my heart ❤️
@@funk.4480 But one of his eyes isn't. ◡︵◡
[DON'T SAY "TOO SOON"! 😉 ...Wait, I feel bad for winking.]
"I'm very sorry, Mister. It's just... these things, they bother me. You're jumping all around this article, pulling phrases and sentences all willy-nilly-like! It seems to me that you're trying to present a biased worldview."
"Oh, and just one more thing. You see, when you were reading this article, you seem to have not read this section right here, that deliberately disproves your statement."
As a former heroin addict who is 8 years clean I can tell you its fucking impossible to IV anything anywhere near the spot where the jab is done. It's not easy to IV in small veins especially with a large gauge needle meant for IM use. The needle is too wide to hit tiny blood vessels and micro veins that are present in the jab location.
Congratulations on getting better, good job
@@DeoMachina thanks
aspiration is not uncommon, they should be doing it. its that simple. the data suggests show. In fact, I think the CDC itself even suggests so now
Huge congratulations on your clean time!!!!!! I have 23 years. It gets better all the time (except the aging part). God bless.
@@gabbyhyman1246 Wow, 23 years! Congradularions, make sure to stay safe, take it easy.
The mouse study was only 6 mice? Mice are cheap why would you only use 6, is it even possible to get a statistical spread? I mean if just one mouse in the group died of unrelated natural causes by pure coincidence it would produce the results that almost 17% died?
Maybe those were left over mice? Maybe they were expecting it to be very obvious? I wanna know too now.
6 is generally viewed as the smallest sample size you can perform statistics on. So very lazy people or people who aren't overtly interested in achieving accurate results often settle for this number. However depending on your statistical analysis 6 is often times not enough and even if it mathematically is, the doubt left is still high enough to probably not use your results for medical advice.
The mice as a resource aren’t that hard to come around, but work needed for carrying out the study gets multiplied by the amount of mice one needs to take care, vaccinate, treat, scan, dissect, photograph and so on. To lesser extent the work of data analysis also gets more complex.
Basically small studies can hint at the existence of a very notable effect, or rule one out. They at best call for more throughout studies if the results are positive.
I think large reason why small studies are performed and published so often is that the scientists need to get published to keep their job. Thus it is better to try ten small studies and only invest more resources when one catches attention, rather than risking producing good but uninteresting results each and every time, risking losing grants and resources allocated to one because the produce seems “uninteresting” and not worth the resources.
What essentially are market dynamics dictate the constant production of weak studies because while they offer no proper knowledge, they produce headlines and interest. Only after that are the proper studies (maybe) done. This tool for more broad results for identifying correlations thus serves a less scientific role of testing the waters of publications and media.
To add on to what the others are saying, usually the most statistically sound method is to pick a sample size relative to the effect size you want to look at. So, if you have a huge difference you're expecting to see between your control and test mice, you can get away with fewer samples. But, if your effect size is small (say, for example, because your mice sometimes have a background effect that looks like the thing you're analyzing), you need way more samples to have confidence in your conclusion. And confidence is the key word: the heart of statistics is determining the confidence you have that two samples are different.
Unfortunately a lot of wet-lab scientists don't understand statistics particularly well, so sometimes they go with the "cost efficient" option. That is, they use an extremely small amount of replicates, and assume the effect size is very large. From a planning/statistics standpoint, this is putting the cart before the horse. And, as you pointed out, this approach is extremely susceptible to missing things and coming to false conclusions.
But the studies aren't worthless, even when they're small. They just shouldn't be used to make conclusions, but rather to aid in generating a hypothesis for new experiments.
@@scratchvippy2600 There are also a lot of statistical methods for single subject designs. However, they require multiple measurements of that subject.
The second anyone changes the words in an article, posts their edit on screen as a source, and doesn't inform the viewer, that's it, nobody should ever trust them again. Jimmy Dore lost all credibility he could possibly have right then.
I actually have gone to the articles he posts and reads and have found out he does this often. I feel so vindicated.
'Despite'
Has there ever been a more dishonest edit?
@@deathmagneto-soy Yes, absolutely, but bringing up literal Nazis feels like cheating.
@@VoteBlue450 does that include articles on other issues too?
@@deathmagneto-soy when you change words to change the meaning of a topic like dore did then yes it's incredibly dishonest.
He deleted the parts that don't agree with him and added a word to imply that those policies are on going. If he isn't lying why change any words why add anything?
Cause he's a liar and it's pathetic
Nicki's cousin' friend is just anecscrotal evidence.
I was unclear if her cousin had problems in his Trinidad (the left one) or his Tobago (the right one).
Let's see Shaun's live reaction to the Jimmy's full response video
@@underballbutter you're pretty sad mate.
Not relevant to Jimmy Dore. Dore made a video about how dumb it was, but I guess Shaun just "missed it."
@@yungtraplord1077 I know that's projection bc you're a SuicideBoyz fan
I mean, in all fairness: "We need a better study" is a perfectly valid outcome for a study. Just means you gotta label that first study as a pilot study.
@@lewisjeter exactly
"We need a better study... no seriously pls someone do our study again from scratch we ballsed it up bigger than Nicki Minaj’s cousin’s friend"
@@NK-fh3st 33:15 ;)
To claim that unvaccinated people have better immunity than vaccinated people is like saying that people with no bulletproof vests are more likely to survive a shooting than people who wore bulletproof vests while working in public security (without including the unarmored people who didn’t survive shootings)
@@lewisjeter not really. its a false validation, meaing going in that direction isnt prob. wrong. its rid. to demand that studies determining a direction taking huge sample sizes. it could be wrong, but its a first hint that a hunt of information in that direction isnt wrong. so compl. to dismiss it is retarded
"dpi" as "days post injection" just wouldn't stick in my head so every time shaun said "2 dpi" all i was thinking was "wow....what low print quality......"
I mean, for being CIA funded, I expected a high production value. The skull in the corner at least should’ve been dancing
Since you don't trust pro-vaccine sources, what is it about anti-vax sources that you find more trustworthy?
@@justingiacchetto746 It's just poking fun at the "funded by CIA to take down Dore" claim when the production value is bare bones.
CIA paying 4chan trolls to push pro-war agenda sounds more believable.
@@justingiacchetto746 Pro convid vaccine sources immediately discredit themselves by referencing legacy media, funding from big pharma and Silicone Valley and a complete ignorance of facts. The strongest discredit is mere logic itself.....Why jab yourself with an unstudied big pharma product that doesn't prevent you from getting/transmitting convids and whose manufacturers aren't liable for the safety of? WHY? Logic.
@@appalachianprivileged3312 It isn’t “unstudied” in the slightest and not only are there a large amount of papers on the COVID vaccines themselves, but an even greater amount of literature about mRNA vaccines is general. Just because you’ve never read them or searched for them doesn’t mean they don’t exist. And absolutely no vaccine will ever be able to prevent you from carrying any viral pathogens at all because that’s not how viruses or vaccines work. All vaccines are are a method to give your body a heads up on how to best prepare for and mitigate a virtually inevitable viral load and they’re incredibly effective at doing that. The point of vaccines isn’t to ensure zero contact with a virus, it’s to ensure that your immune system knows exactly what to do once you actually get the virus.
@@Sinisterlizards don't bother. This guy is either a troll or willfully ignorant. No matter how nuanced your reply is this dude is going to ignore them. This video literally debunks everything Dore says and that didn't convince him. I doubt any amount of evidence could change his mind.
As someone who is also pretty needlephobic, the covid jabs were barely noticable. I was still bracing myself for my first jab about a minute after the nurse administered it. I'm autistic so I'm hypersensitive to the feeling of needles and I've needed to lie down to get my jabs in the past.
For anyone who dislike needles, this was my experience as someone with a diagnosed needle phobia. The less fat you have, the shallower the injection will be. So the needle you see will likely not be going fully into you. Also, if it is going to be fully injected, remember that it's really only the part that goes through the skin and the muscle that hurts, so you shouldn't try to imagine it going in. In my experience, it was a very easy jab. There was no burning, no pain. Basically as if it was just a needle without an injection. Swing your arm around after, I like to imagine that it's like shaking a bowl of flour to fill in the holes, so I'm getting my cells to get back into the hole that the needle made. It makes me feel much better! Also, say that you have fainted in the past so that they take you to a private area. I always cry a lot, before during and after, and I don't want people seeing that. Don't look at the needle, look at the hand on the opposite arm as the one that's being injected. How does it move? What does it look like? Can you see your veins? Can you flex your thumb? Really concentrate hard. It's a good idea to try to relax your arm, but that isn't going to be easy. So instead I just don't think about it. It doesn't matter much if your muscles arent relaxed, it doesn't matter if you're flexing them to hell. It might make it hurt just the tiniest bit more, but it helps to know that there's no pressure on you to pretend you're not scared.
If you're frightened, I love you, I get it, you can do this. I am so proud that you're willing to do this despite the fear, I believe in you.
I actually have a severe blood and needle phobia that can cause nausea and fainting, which is strange because I used to get my blood drawn all the time as was required for certain antidepressants. I had to look away when they administered the jabs, but I was surprised that I barely felt a thing. Now, the flulike symptoms I got (this is normal by the way) did shut me down for half a day, but I was completely fine afterwards as if nothing had happened. The flu shot I got last month hurt more, but nothing is anywhere near as bad as getting an IV put in the wrong way, which is probably where my phobia stems from.
It's recommended you do get the flu vaccine as well, because you don't want your body fighting off that on top of anything else that might happen.
For me the first vaxine was the least painful one I've ever had, and the second was no worse than you would expect from a needle.
I'm autistic and sensitive too, I definitely felt them (and my arm was sore and weak afterwards) but they were quicker than most shots I've had in the past, so it stopped hurting faster.
@@bettievw
This was actually really nice to read.
I think Shaun makes it clear, but I wanna make sure everyone hears loud and clear: jokes are scripted and written, Jimmy had to read this article fully at one point to make these choices.
Key words, “scripted choices.” He’s 100% lying, not even when making jokes but the REFERENCE material for his jokes, and that poor audience couldn’t know unless they pulled it out themselves.
When he responded to that article about his ivermectin claims he said "I never said that did I?" in the form of a question and then looked around the room for approval. You've never seen someone this uncertain. Can you imagine anyone honestly reading a blatant lie written about them in print and then reacting anything like Jimmy did?
@@MClaudiusMarcellus Now find another mistake.
I wish these conservative & conspiracy nut "comedians" could at least be _funny._ Even a guilty smirk would somehow make it slightly less awful, but I'm a miserable cxxt, so idk. I know honesty is asking far too much of them, cos that would blow their whole scheme, but then again, a proper _joke_ apparently will make them implode. All they do is intentionally ignore & misrepresent the things they punch down about, and say it in an incredulous tone. (Dry wit is far more than that, mind, and funny when done right.)
No wonder Crowder's "stand-up comic" phase was so short-lived - yet he still calls himself a comedian and does those lame, cringey "skits". He has paid pals to laugh at that crap on his show,, but alone on stage with his "stand up routine", nobody laughed, cos they were waiting for a punchline. He'd have to gesture wildly or make a goofy face, like you do to get a giggle out of children. A scant few drunk people snickering at his incredulously face after the 1000th time they hear & recognise "100 genders" and "attack helicopters" is hardly a feather in your cap...gun. (Big words from a guy who wears cowboy cosplay every day.)
@@solgato5186 A lie is not a "mistake". Deliberately omitting information is not a "mistake". What, he just plumb forgot? He has the g.d. Memento disease? Did vaccines "k□ll and r□pe" his wife? OMG! Someone check him for tattoos!
@@mookinbabysealfurmittens sweet Memento reference LOL.
At this point, I'm extremely skeptical of *medical* studies (as opposed to psychological studies or sociological studies) that rely on self-reporting as a major mechanic. The discredited Andrew Wakefield study, that incorrectly linked vaccines and autism, involved self-reporting by parents.
Self-reporting in a psychological or sociological context can be helpful, and interviewing or surveying someone about their experiences when records or testing can provide proof of things like infection timelines can be valuable, too.
But (for example) asking people whether they had "more tinnitus" after a vaccine, with no access to any medical records of previous tinnitus or medications people might be taking that can cause tinnitus etc. to corroborate people's responses, seems really unreliable. People are very susceptible to cognitive biases like confirmation bias and selective memory recall.
Oh don't worry, in Andy Wakefield's study, he just made up the results, the kids didn't even lie, he did.
@@benroberts6318 technically the person doing the study self-reported them so not a lie,,,,,,,,,,
So you’re saying multiple people just happened to start a medication that would’ve gave them TINNITUS as a side effect at the same time they had gotten a vaccine? Just say they’re lying and leave it at that instead of making your whole argument null and void
While self reporting does have significant limitations which are nearly always commented on and taken into consideration when we are appraising a study, the Wakefield study is not a good example of these limitations. The parents of the kids in those studies later found out which patient number their kids were and stated that a lot of their reporting was misrepresented. So the reporting wasn’t unreliable, the data Wakefield used was completely fabricated.
When asking someone if they have a symptom after a vaccine, can cause some people to have that symptom. They may have had that symptom before the vaccine, but didn't pay much attention to it, but after it was mentioned, it is now apparent to the person. For example: I've had headaches for years, but I never really noticed them because they weren't intense, just always there. One day I heard mention of the type of headaches I get, and dang if I didn't start noticing them. But, if I was asked about headaches after taking the vaccine, I might have attributed the headaches to the vaccine, rather than my whole sinus problems.
Holy shit, two videos in a year? We are spoiled. Thrilled to see some more of your content.
He made 6 videos this year tho
Are you talking about Hbomberguy?
Yeah, he heard that if you shit on Dore big Pharma will give you money. Seems like if you are only producing 2 videos in a year doing one on a guy in his garage talking on TH-cam is a curious choice.
@@trippmoore Damn I didn't know big pharma will just write you a cheque if you badmouth internet comedians. That's super good to know. Might be a good way to pull in some extra income. How does one get started? Do I just need to make a TH-cam channel or do you think like a blogspot would do the trick? Really appreciate this insight, rent is really expensive in Canada these days.
Going into photoshop, enhancing an image, zooming in and rotating and then in your video pretending to tell yourself to do that is fantastic and should be done in every video
He was talking to the computer, it's a bit from Blade Runner.
@@MiqelDotCom and the more recent and common reference is from CSI and the other cheesy police investigation shows.
@@MiqelDotCom yes...i got it, lol. I got yhe joke
I assumed it was a Star Trek reference!
"Man, I really enjoyed that joke in the video!"
**comment explaining the joke**
**comment explaining the joke**
**comment explaining the joke**
Is this a meta joke that I don't get? I'm seeing this happen in so many comment sections now!
That drawing of a skull in the corner looks so professional, I wonder where Shaun got the budget for that 🤔
Duh C.i.A!!!!!!!!😲😲😲😲😲
funny lol
party in the C.I.A.
Yes! Logos are so expensive 🤣
Ffs 🤦♂️
Probably Bellingcat / Mi5
"By themselves, Niki Manaji's Cousin's Friend's Giant Balls cants tell us anything" gold
Dore: "Anti-vax content was banned, but these two articles that don't actually contradict each other weren't"
Also Dore: "So do you understand why there shouldn't be censorship EVER?"
Any reasonable person: "What?"
"Help! I'm getting millions of views on my content! I'm being censored!"
Gaslighting. Any reasonable person isn't a far-leftist like yourself.
Note on Singapore:
Singapore has a population density of 8358 per Km2 compared to USA 36 km2. The population density is 232 TIMES larger. Everybody lives in close proximity.
So of course there is gonna be a higher out break. Also i luv how Dummy Jore ignores what happened before all this which is Singapore had world's strictest covid rules. The mask mandate alone reduced the spread by 25% to 40%. Mind you, in Singapore the vast majority take public transportation unlike in the USA where everyone commute on a car making it even harder to contain a virus
Also, the virus outbreak isn't as scary as those people wanted you to believe. Some recent data examples:
*Nov 3rd daily case*
3,633 new cases, 12 new deaths, 191 discharged from hospital, 3,149 completed isolation. 31,205 active cases in total
*Nov 4th daily case*
2,986 new cases, 17 new deaths, 175 discharged from hospital, 4,912 completed isolation. 28,924 active cases in total.
*Nov 5th daily case*
1,758 new cases, 9 new deaths, 119 discharged from hospital, 3,538 completed isolation, 27,025 active cases in total.
Almost all the times, 98% of active cases are asymptomatic or having mild symptom while those who are critically ill and dead are mostly 60 y.o. and above and are mostly unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. Additional context for those who don't know, active cases is the real cases of currently infected people (total cumulative cases - total deaths - total recovered = active cases)
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 well a couple factors right, vax numbers, natural immunity, etc all contribute to lowering numbers but its far from gone... the concern is further wild mutation, cooling temps in the northern hemisphere drive people indoors and that's where alot of transmission is going to occur, nobody wants some new strain gaining foothold. i suppose if you live in some no population area, you can be more flippant, but higher popuplation centers have to be wary so as not to be completely overwhelmed, likely affecting the availability for normal emergency health concerns. so for those in positions of authority and healthcare, the angle of concern is different than some rando citizen, they're not better, but just have a greater number of people to consider, rather than just say you and your family or me and my family individuallly. its all part of living in a society and at least pretending to care about the future. from my perspective alot of the vax push is just about getting the workers back to the grind and making money for the wealthy, so the concern from 'up top' is hardly genuine human empathy.
@@GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 where are you getting those numbers? According to the CDC website, the 7-Day rolling average for new cases, this past week, is 70,431. Meaning there were approximately 70,000 new cases a day, not 3,000 some.
The average daily deaths for this past week, were 1100, not 12 LOL
@@alex-qd6of Official daily records from Singaporean Ministry Of Health.
@@alex-qd6of You're definitely misrepresenting data here.
I've always told people, "I'd rather take two quick *free* shots in the arm over having to take an *expensive* tube down my throat."
I know a plague-rat who needed to be intubated and in a protective coma for two weeks. The hospital bill was $300,000.
@@Peter_S_
That is a huge sum.
Once again reminded of why I am glad not to live in the US and to live somewhere with a sane healthcare system.
Both are free to me, because evil gomunism no iphone VUVUZELA, however I have had severe pneumonia before, IT'S AWFUL when you cough and you see the yellow pus with your blood on it, you are drowning on your body trying to save you. Covid is WORSE, so I can only imagine how it must feel to choke on your own blood when you had a perfectly fine vaccine but refused to take it. I never stopped caring about my health since the last close shave with death, I genuinely cannot understand those that are so far gone that they refuse a simple jab.
@@LuizAlexPhoenix you might not understand it but they still have the right not to take it. The problem is that the people who don’t understand want to hold people down and force them. I’ve had COVID it was no big deal. My family had it and no one was hospitalized actually of the dozens that I personally know no one was hospitalized.
I know of one person who has died but not personally and she was 300lbs or more.
My nephew who is 23 got the shot because his employer made him and had major complications but I know many who had zero problems.
Choice is the point not pro/anti-vax
@@rationalfemale5717 They have the right to where I live, but they should deal with the consequences. If you were fine with COVIF it's great but if you infected me I would have 90% odds of being sent to a ventilator, due to the pneumonia I mentioned. Even with all the care I take, double mask and visor, I could die and also kill the elderly in my family. If someone is so deeply irresponsible and uncaring to ignore that, I have zero empathy for them, as they clearly have none for me.
They deserve their basic human rights to food, clothing, shelter and universal basic income to survive. However, since in our society they aren't going to get any of that, they should at least get severance pay and go look elsewhere for kindred spirits, preferably sign away their hospital beds so they don't take someone else's place. "It's them tough breaks, son", when people confuse personal freedom with privilege to harm others and then crawl back for help when the consequences hit.
If someone where I work doesn't get the jab, they lose their job without pay, much like someone would if they went around the office naked because we can't force them to wear clothes. If you wanna do it, don't do it near me and those that asked you not to. If anything, I wouldn't mind people being naked, since it won't suddenly make me and my family risk dying or living with life long consequences of someone else's complete irresponsibility.
Oh god the mouse study is the one my own antivax relatives parroted at me, claiming they heard about it from an actual medical doctor on TH-cam. Now I sadly know what they were referring to.
My dad is a freak conspiracy theorist and he follows that quack religiously.
There’s been multiple failed mouse studies with mRNA prior to Covid. Look up moderna mRNA fails. There are a couple articles from 2017 and before that are troubling. Especially when you know these vaccines have got to skip a lot of these steps they previously failed in bc Operation Warp Speed.
Russiagate and Hunter’s laptop coverup anyone? Better stay in your slowly shrinking bubbles. It’s a dangerous world out here actually thinking for yourself. 🫵🏼🥾👅🐑
‘Jimmy Dore is a comedian’ I can’t believe you would spread such horrible misinformation, Shaun.
Jimmy calls himself a comedian
@@Avrysatos And I call myself Russia's Greatest Love Machine. Doesn't make it any more true
I think that’s how dore excuses himself. “im just a jagoff comedian”
@@patrioticallyincorrect4069 it upsets me that Dore uses the word jag off. It’s a Pittsburgh word and he’s not even from Pittsburgh
aye man have you heard his phone call segments they’re actually funny as fuck tho
Jimmy looked at Tim and Dave and was like I want that money too.
Yup!
Don't forget greenwald. He's sadly become similar...
or maybe he was always a scum bag... yikes lol
Jimmy is going to primary your ass now
@darzsh
So he’s actively hurting the left then, is what you’re saying?
Shaun got a shout out on The Majority Report today.
The quality of your work is drawing many considered eyeballs.
Got a timestamp? Would love to see it
Link?
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HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE SKULL ZONE 💀💀💀
@@Kingswayyy lol!
For some reason the way Dore says "no I didint" just sets my teeth on edge 😬
All the energy and conviction of a child denying that he pulled his sister's hair.
Look at this CIA quality power point presentation!
Hey, do you think a regular person can afford this high fidelity jpeg of a custom made skull?
@@scruffopone3989 Just in case you haven't figured it out, the op is being sarcastic. Shouldn't need to point that out but it's so hard to tell these days.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Don't worry I was also goofing
Right?? CIA all day
I'm NOT goofing. I'm dead ass serious
Our Skullfather blesses us once again.
And this time he's going after sam seder if sam seder never got to be in Hollywood and became all bitter about it lol.
Skulls for the skullthrone.
Skulldaddy best daddy
Jimmy's picking a fight with "breadtube" and partway through the video, he tried to attack Shaun and it's... laughable. Saying Shawn is funded by the Government and how it makes sense because of "how many resources went into this video to attack him."
Basically saying "it's a good video, which is why you shouldn't trust it."
"Look at how many resources went into it!"
(Video consists of a skull on the bottom right corner of a plain field the same colour as the walls in my gran's living room)
Its probably at least an indication on how Dore does not care about his videos enough to even invest to minimum of efford or money .....
Well, at 26:20 you can clearly see Shaun employing an advanced image-enhancing program. That kind of technology doesn't come cheap lol
Jimmy was right all along
@@Sawmillbandit Proof?
For people who think that finger click example was too general, there’s actually been a proven example of this sort of association. Uri Geller, famous quack, once sent a “psychic wave” through his show and HUNDREDS of people called in to report paranormal occurrences in their homes. Then, personal hero and Geller’s bane of existence, James Randi, did the same on HIS show and reaped the exact same results, despite dedicating his life to dispelling myths surrounding “spiritualism.”
Replying so I can come back to this comment if needed
Shaun going after "leftists" grifters LET'S GOOOOO
Jimmy has been farther to the left than most TH-camrs, but that's no reason to to ignore rightful criticism of him. Never treat 'influencers' as having a perfect worldview.
so many leftists are just right-wing "left-wingers". too many anti-vaxxers like Jimmy Dore and Max Blumenthal.
@@kirklandday No, he isn't. Never was.
Jimmy is barely left at all tbh. It kinda just seems like he was vaguely progressive and wanted to be a contrarian. Glad so many people are starting to see him for who he truly is, a reactionary, fear mongering dumbass
@@AldanFerrox He was attacked for force the vote and rejecting the two party system. People are multidimensional, and clearly Jimmy is riding this COVID misinformation train as well. Both are true, but we can still criticise him in this moment to try to discourage this behaviour.
My appreciation is immeasurable and my day is made.
Thank you Shaun.
I can literally hear the part where Shaun circled in his notes multiple times to say the phrase "of mice and men"
Let's see Shaun's live reaction to the Jimmy's full response video
@@underballbutter are you his alt account or something? You seem really keen on a live (?) response to the Jimmy’s response
Quit spammin
@@Barely_Edited Are you a russian bot? Does every comment against your favorite youtuber deserve discrediting? You tell me.
@@NoInfoAvail sounds like you're the one siding with Russian bots
@@NoInfoAvail My gosh you are so upset Jimmy Dore got exposed for the slime ball that he is.
*Hbomberguy voice* Oh, he mixed his mice up? Fucking OOPS
Anyone remember that game where you play as a virus, bacteria, or spore? Remember the text that basically says "news networks spread disinformation about virus." And how it helps you -- the virus. I'm guessing these knobs never played that one.
plague inc?
Pandemic II
No, the only thing I remember from that game is the impenetrable fortress of Madagascar.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter swear to God I started in Madagascar and still somehow managed to lose it one time.
@@imveryangryitsnotbutter it's Greenland that gets me damn every time
Saw Jimmy Dore standup once. He ended without the closing joke cause, after berating the waiting staff from the stage for delivering the checks, he was too upset for them ignoring him to do it and just ended it there.
Your username is a pretty apt description of what you just said, lol.
omg in every thing he does he's such a petulant spoiled brat.
You can judge character based on how a person treats hosts,waiters,and retail workers
Check drops are a standard obstacle for headlining comics. Nobody should even bat an eye on stage when this happens. That's absurd behavior.
Shallow and insecure angry man
The tactic of telling so many lies that there isn't time or energy to refute them all has a name: "Gish Gallop", named after the creationist Duane Gish.
Today also known as "doing a Shapiro".
I have always called it the "pile of shit theory"
Russia’s propaganda model utilizes this under the name “firehose of falsehood”
@@CK-nh7sv let’s say. Hypothetically.
@@hello7032 yeah, 'let's say' is Shapiro's tell. When he says that, anything that follows is an imaginary scenario that doesn't map to reality in any way.
It boggles my mind that Dore’s fans are still needling on about this in the comments two years later.
Ha…. needling
Your mind is easily boggled.
I guess that is why you took the Jab.
Good luck with the myocarditis.
@@CP-nl2zb given that the fact is that vaccines save lifes? Ye, thanks, son't need that luck. Now cope, antivaxx shill.
@user-lk7cv8vg7r thats cuz he isnt a leftist, just like tim pool he's a contrarian grifter looking to pump out ragebait for profit. Hasanabi, Chapo Trap House and Trueanon can be labeled as "scumbag leftists" yet they fully support civil rights movements, transvestite or otherwise. Dore is just an anti establishment conman
That tends to happen when "The science" is bought and paid for. @user-lk7cv8vg7r
Ah, the old 'he's just asking questions, raising concerns'.
Just Asking Questions, a.k.a, JAQing off
It's fun to transplant this mindset into extreme situations.
Should we evacuate from this volcano? Is it actually about to erupt? Here's a report documenting how many people died during the evacuation in Fukushima. I have a lot of concerns.
Btw, here's a link to my merchandise shop.
c o n c e r n s h a v e b e e n r a i s e d
My baseless and easily refutable claims are being met with backlash? Curious. What could THEY be trying to hide?
It's funny Shaunypoo didn't talk about Israel vaccine problems. Almost as if he lied by omission. Hmmmmmm
I remember Jimmy Dore from his TYT days, and I had an interaction with him at that time that I'd say was a good red flag for how he approaches information and conflicts. He said something factually incorrect in a TYT video, so I tweeted to him that what he said was incorrect, told him the correct information, and cited a couple of sources. As far as I can remember, I was polite. Jimmy responded by calling me fat and not addressing any of the points I made.
Edit: to all the people asking for proof, I have unfortunately deleted the Twitter account in question, so my tweets aren't visible anymore, and I can't find an archive link. Jimmy's tweets are visible, but you can see my old handle in them, and I don't want to dox myself. Sorry, you're just going to have to take me at my word.
To anyone who does manage to find these tweets, a very important thing to note: after I deleted my Twitter account, a different person seems to have registered using my handle. The person currently using that Twitter handle is NOT me.
Jesus Christ, I’m sorry you had to deal with that, ignorant people are insanely difficult to deal with.
@Thomas Hancock He can read, I assume? Public libraries are still free, the internet still exists? If he lacks education it's his own fault for not making the least effort. You don't have to go to college to be well informed. Textbooks are really expensive, but they aren't guarded by dragons. You can know everything professors know by reading all the books they read. What you mostly get from college amounts to a reading list with commentary from someone who was there ahead of you.
Jimmy Dore was main reason I stopped watching the TYT show years and years ago. Seemed like a very scummy dude and his bizarre plays at relevancy since have all been pretty sad and gross.
@@bob7975 they may not be guarded by dragons, but textbooks are really expensive.
I do feel dumb for ever liking the guy, because on reflection (including your example as evidence), he hasn’t changed. He’s always been terrible. I guess TYT and the broader left community gave him a pass because he was on our team. Lessons to be learned.
Shaun: Sharp eyed viewers would’ve noticed…
Me: *goes back 10 seconds* 😅
Naughty
I wonder if people who lie for a living are feeling fulfilled in their lives.
Shaun's viewerbase is such that I'm not entirely sure "fake name to make the credits list look even" isn't the name someone supplied on Patreon.
Yeah, I stay for his and hbomb s patron s clever names.
It almost certainly is.
Being familiar with the Knowledge Fight podcast's policy wonk shout outs, I don't doubt it is. People are crazy creative with these.
Let's see Shaun's live reaction to the Jimmy's full response video
Yes, you guys are all super quirky
I owe you a lot, Shaun, since you were the one that brought me out of my alt-right pipeline phase and I'm sure that many others will agree with me
Glad to have you on this side of things, king.
@@tonycampbell1424 Wholeheartedly concur. Glad to see you with the homies Big T.
Same here. Should thank cinema sins too, because the first video of Shaun's I watched was his response to cinema sins on Fury Road
Good for you man, we can all change for the better.
welcome to the light side
He was so owned by this video, he now insists you’re working for the CIA.
Did you watch his video?
Cause, honestly, Shaun misrepresent what Jimmy's point was. He was literally only talking about the vaccine not preventing outbreaks. Soooo.
@@Rundvelt Ignoring the fact that Jimmy is completely wrong about that (and it was addressed in the video), how does that justify Jimmy lying?
@@Junebug89 How is he completely wrong? Please provide some evidence, because from what I see when I look around the world is that places with exceptionally high vaccination rates are having Omnicron outbreaks at close to the same rates as places with much lower vaccination rates.
There is a good argument for vaccines, and that's to prevent hospitalizations due to the original and the delta variant.
The problem is that people are so polarized for vaccines or against vaccines there's no nuance or looking at the data.
This video shows that, because Jimmy's exclusively talking about the vaccine flattening the curve and even wiping it out. Both of which were not valid arguments.
It's silly to point out that Jimmy is talking about cases only and not deaths when his point is that the vaccine hasn't prevented the spread at all.
It's akin to someone saying "oh, bacon is bad for you, it leads to heart attacks" and then someone else going "oh, you liar, you didn't include that it was delicious."
@@Junebug89 Also, what did he lie about? Please provide how you discern his intent from what he says.
@@Junebug89 Also, please tell me how being wrong about something equates to lying.
So glad it came up at the end, because right at the start I was screaming, "ALONE! IT SAYS BETTER PROTECTION FROM VACCINATION ALONE! SO BOTH!"
Sorry. I'm a medical laboratory scientist at an independent laboratory that does a LOT of COVID-19 testing. And since I'm the head of testing and the laboratory manager I'm the one who has to explain to patients calmly and kindly why the conspiracy theory they saw on Facebook doesn't hold up to scientific scrutiny.
All day, every day. I'm very tired.
Just returned to this video. How are you holding up, Austin? Still tired all the time from battling disinformation?
@Gangoo LOL, I'm much better. I found a new job as the molecular specialist at a bigger lab. Very chill. I even get my own room since a bunch of my tests are light-sensitive.
@@austinluther5825 Science hutch! Glad to hear you're doing better, mate.
That last point about sample bias because of the removal effect for people who got covid but did not survive is subtle but extremely important. Good catch.
In order to get that immunity it requires massive numbers of deaths. Immunity from catching COVID should include the death numbers because catching COVID killed them and now you have immunity. Vaccine immunity should also included the deaths by vaccines. When saving lives the deaths should be counts d
This is just some constructive criticism. While the Israeli study did find that combining vaccine induced immunity with natural immunity decreased odds of reinfection, the authors claim that this finding was not statistically significant:
“Individuals who were previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 seem to gain additional protection from a subsequent single-dose vaccine regimen. Though this finding corresponds to previous reports, we could not demonstrate significance in our cohort.”
Loved the rest of the video though!
Studies have come out showing it to be the strongest. It's mixing the broader generalised antibody response of natural infection with the more consistent response from vaccine derived immunity.
@@Imperial_Squid I accept that "not statistically significant" and "could not demonstrate significance" are different statements, and I should have been clearer in my own critique. However, I don't think this distinction does much to absolve Shaun.
First, inability to demonstrate significance implies an inconclusive result, not a result that demonstrates the superior efficacy of natural + vaccinated immunity. From my interpretation, Shaun implied the latter rather than the former. Second, the comparison of previously infected individuals to previously infected + vaccinated individuals (Model 3 in the study) involved a sample size n = 14,029 persons which I would argue is sufficient to obtain conclusive levels of statistical significance were a meaningful causal relationship present.
The problem though again comes back to the filtering. Those previously-infected individuals survived, therefore a significant portion of them likely had minimal or no symptoms from the original infection, in which case demonstrating significance of having both natural immunity and a vaccine over just natural immunity would be nearly impossible to do without a colossally huge sample size.
What the stronger focus should be on is whether there was a significant increase of negative outcomes for people with both natural and vaccine immunity vs. those with only natural immunity. There shouldn't be a focus on "is this worth bothering with?", but "is there a specific reason to avoid it?"
@@bblvrable The issue is that a government enforced mandate places the onus on the government to justify an intervention against bodily autonomy. It shouldn’t be incumbent on the individual whose bodily autonomy is being violated to justify why their autonomy should not be violated.
@@vinaytummarakota3044 You're talking about an entirely separate issue. The issue at hand is whether or not vaccination is beneficial to those who have already been infected and recovered.
Speaking of tinnitus, I think anyone who suffers from tinnitus will agree that FEAR of tinnitus actually WORSENS the tinnitus. It's a fairly well understood phenomena. Someone could have mild tinnitus and not have even noticed it until it got temporarily worsened OR they read online about something like the vaccine causing it. When your brain notices the sound it identifies it subconsciously as a danger and therefore makes it louder to you, its absolutely possible that this could be what is happening to the people saying that the vaccine gave them tinnitus.
I've had Tinnitus for almost 2 years. I don't notice it 99% of the time. My strategy to deal with it is to just ignore it. Sometimes it even seems like it's not there at all. :)
Thanks!
Sincerely,
A Hypochondriac
Nocebo effect, I'd reckon.
@@KimJungGooner To be fair, I think "ignore it" and "put a fan on" are the only 2 extant treatment options anyway.
How about when Optimus Prime died _but_ "there's a _new_ hero!"... Rodimus Prime...?! I can't believe I liked that goofy stuff as a kid. From the creative minds behind "laser candy" and robot dinosaur aliens. Lol. Transformers were so goofy.
Get your shots, folks. And don't trust hucksters over actual medical experts. Cheers, and be well.
You know this video really aged well.
First Jimmy recognised he misinterpreted an article and claimed he fired the editor responsible.
Then he made a really weird tangeant about Shaun being a CIA asset because of his "high production value" wich is just hilarious.
Shaun fact checked him so hard he had to make a second conspiracy theory to continue peddling the first one.
It's almost like he lied about the editor thing and is throwing anything at the wall hoping it will stick, lol
My tinnitus has worsened this year despite protecting my ears most of the time. It really sucks. I can understand why someone would want something to blame. When I first got tinnitus I wasn't sure if it was caused by my antidepressant or not, but just to be safe I switched to a new one because it was a known rare side effect.
Try listening to the binaural beats produced by the different frequencies of male and female cicadas.
I'm sure it will give you a buzz.
What is your bio-copper status? Bio-copper is sooooo critical to energy Mg-ATP production and endogenous anti-oxidant management, yet it isn't highlighted like it ought to be. The biochemistry is there. The specialized research scientists know, but the M.D.'s do not. The biggest antagonist to whatever level of bio-copper you have is excess iron. Metallic iron filings were added in the processed foold supply back in 1941 -- literal iron shavings! I no longer ingest them. I want natural nutrients in my food, not removed and replaced with iron filings and synthetic nutrients that drive those filings into the cells faster and deeper. th-cam.com/video/Iq94ROB5qEs/w-d-xo.html
The presenter just came out with a book recently called Cure Your Fatigue. Word on the street is that Dr. Mercola will be interviewing him soon.
I've heard that covering your ears with your palms and then using your fingers to tap on the back of your head for about 30 seconds can help.
Well yeah but you didn’t then say that antidepressants cause tinnitus and go on a massive TH-cam campaign trying to tell people to not take antidepressants.
@@bigDean636 helps a bit for like 3 seconds, cant cover ears and tap back of neck all day.
"Well, to put it in scientific terms, they balls'ed it up."
I love shaun.
@-GinΠΓ Τάο He doesn't pretend that he would.
You know who has a suspicious "profit motive"? ... media outlets and social media influencers that write headlines and produce content based on studies that are pre-print and not yet peer reviewed.
That's not responsible journalism. That is not providing value to the public at large. It's sensationalism for profit.
Those people and platforms should be held to account by the public that they are mistreating. If there was a way to deny them their profits it would remove the incentive for this kind of irresponsible misbehavior.
In hindsight publishing pre-prints was a bad idea even though it seemed beneficial at the time.
@@s7d788 I don't know. I mean, the idea is to give other scientists access to the data to check it and that's a fine idea cause scientists treat pre-print like pre-print that needs to be checked before taken as truth. Pre-print is not the problem, capitalist driven journalism is.
@Jason Johnson what did Kim Iverson do?
I tried that argument with my anti-vax ex-girlfriend but it seems that for a lot of people, the lack of trust in institutions just makes them seek any information that will reinforce this point of view, no matter how shitty they are. They just have a hard time nuancing their world-view I think.
CIA/TH-cam can you algorithmically boost a few more vids like this for me, this is good stuff
@Alex Green I'm pretty sure he's trolling.
@@durnsidh6483 He’s joking, teasing idiots like Jimmy and Max Blumenthal who claimed that Shaun was paid by the CIA to make this video, not trolling
So you're saying Jimmy is a grifter? Colour me shocked.
He got his payday from Rumble to shill for the right. He's a sellout by definition.
Imagine my shock lmao
Jimmy used to have nothing nice or pleasant to describe FOX "News" but nowadays he sits down with their most dishonest propagandist no problem. Just because they're the only MSM who'd have him on.
haha! canadian!
Saying, "Hello Shaun" out-loud when I start a video of yours is the closest thing I do to self care these days.
Plot twist: "fake name to make credits list even" is an actual Patreon sub who only subs when they're needed.
Let's see Shaun's live reaction to the Jimmy's full response video
debunked th-cam.com/video/1GPx1YTsS7Y/w-d-xo.html
Good for all those folks at the end of this video to put their name to this status quo defending nonsense.
@@ArktinenJenkki we upset one of them lads
@@charlesballiet7074 Jimmy doesn't really address the arguments Shaun makes here. For example, with the article editing, Jimmy says his producer added "despite" and fired him for it. However, that doesn't address how Jimmy didn't acknowledge that Singapore had strict lockdowns, vaccinated a majority of the population, then eliminated the lockdowns, then saw an uptick in cases, all the while noting that hospitalizations and deaths are still quite low.
Used to be a big Jimmy Dore fan. Sad to see him sell out to the worst of humanity. Exactly like the people he used to complain about.
Also how did I miss this video?? Suppressed? 🤔
@@qmulus1 He panders to the right. That’s for sure. But you’re also subscribed to Larry Elder, Lauren Southern, Officer Tatum, JP Sears, and two Tim Pools channels, so you’re probably into that.
@@qmulus1 No it hasn't. All the important studies and real life death numbers vindicate the vaccine.
@@rosscleary9110 Studies showed that people with natural immunity fared better against Delta than those who got vaccinated.
@@maytalcliff9497 get a hobby dude. That’s weird what you just did.
If 100% vax and everyone resumes normal life, all new cases will be those of vaxed people. that has no meaning if cases remain low. "biggest outbreak ever" also has no context...compared to itself? compared to other countries? An increase in cases is predictable if you had zero cases during lockdown then an "increase" after people go back to normal life.
When did we have zero cases during lockdown?
@@WayneBraack they didn’t, they said “an increase in cases is predictable if you had zero cases during lockdown” meaning, of course there is an increase if there were none and now there are some.
They’re making the point that you can’t compare it to anything other than previous numbers for itself, which is in itself biased. The first person killed each day is an increase in deaths that day, two people die the next day you can state “100% increase in deaths since yesterday”
The best thing to do is look at infection to death ratio, I believe is their point. If the ratio goes down, whatever we’re doing is working. If 100% are vaxxed and then 100% become infected, but 0% die, that is a good vax or a nonfatal virus, both of which are good news, but that is a perfect world and we are not in that world so people don’t do what they say and the people telling other people to do things don’t always have the best intentions, which becomes a vicious circle
I had subbed to Dore for a while but the first red flag was him slobbering over Tulsi Gabbard, who proved to be a right-wing plant who endorsed Biden over Sanders. His vilification of any mild criticism of him was also suspicious but the gaslighting is unforgivable. The anti-science stuff was pretty much what had me get over his stuff.
Jimmy's picked his lot with the libertarians and the anarchists who are both unfortunately not well-read and very malleable, which is why many right-wing plants try to sell their anti-establishment cred to that crowd.
Gabbard endorsed Sanders over Clinton in 2016 though.
@@qmulus1 2016 was when she was still trying to create a narrative and get a bigger role. Tulsi Gabbard's past endorsements are as valuable as Krysten Sinema's pre-Senate policies.
@@geoffreysorkin5774 She knew she’d become a pariah by breaking with the establishment and throwing in with Sanders. She’s the only one who had the balls to do it. And that is the quality that separates her from Bernie: balls. Bernie didn’t want to win in 2020. After South Carolina, we all knew it. There was no point in endorsing a candidate who didn’t want it.
Jimmy’s career flourished as times get tough and people struggle. That was the red flag for me
A right-winger who endorsed Biden? I thought that he would endorse other left-wingers like Sanders or Yang, if not simply right-wingers themselves.
Still, it does make sense for a fool to endorse another fool, regardless of side (and I say this as someone who is left-leaning but is frustrated with both parties).
"Now this may surprise you to hear this, but I disagree with Jimmy Dore here"
Oh, how I've missed this Liverpudlian's dry humor.
Wow sorting by newest is sad
Not really. People defending the clown that is Jimmy Dore get ratioed even in new comments, and rightfully so
This is how it is with every video that criticizes Jimmy. How it’s been for years. All these right wing JD cheerleaders swarm with their bad faith bullshit after the rest of us have moved on. This video is popular enough that they still get pretty drowned out overall. They’re usually more successful. Jimmy has such fittingly scummy fans.
It's interesting how none of the Dore fans seem to address what is said in this video. It's just, 'you suck, Jimmy Dore rules.'
You’re not a doctor. Stop giving medical advice when you failed freshman biology
Where are all the people claiming Dore has been vindicated getting their (mis)information from? It's now 2024, lockdowns are long over, covid has become a background annoyance for most of us at worst, and the world is generally back on its feet.
And how are they able to completely overlook the many clear examples of Dore outright lying in the video?
"I don't know anything about the relative metabolic rates 'of mice and men'"
Nice one!
Can't think of a better man to make this video 👍
Eh maybe Vaush
Just a slow-rolling, dead serious dismantling of Dore's shit
@@Tacom4ster I like Shaun's *excruciating* attention to detail. He miraculously see's shit, not usually picked up by the naked eye. 😁
@@Tacom4ster I wouldn't say better man.
@@Aster_Risk not sure that's an insult
That bit about how Dore covers the article from Singapore should be shown to ever single one of his subscribers. He's a lying, grifting fraud who doesn't deserve any attention or respect. Absolutely disgusting.
Would his fans even care? They’re right-wing ethnonationalist Qan0n fanatics anyway.
@@PittsburghSonido yep just look at any video where dore criticised cops during the Floyd protests the comments went full facist
There's no plausible deniability whatsoever, either. You can't even say he read 1 part and disregarded the rest. He read the whole article, combed it, and even changed the wording in order to mislead his viewers about what it says. He is lying, ranting trash who unfortunately a lot of people still listen to as an 'anti-establishment' 'left-wing' voice.
@@110000116699 Such a healthy leftist community Jimmy Dore has.
@@TurtleChad1 One of the best career paths in this century is telling conservatives what they want to hear. The great thing about it is that it doesn't even matter whether you're starting out on the right (Glenn Beck, Candace Owens) or the left (Jimmy Dore, Dave Rubin), you just need to put yourself out there, push the right buttons, and build an audience.
Being open to conflicting points of view and blindly accepting those alternate viewpoints are two very different things.
"I'm not taking the extreme delusional position here, I'm just asking questions." A tactic Jimmy learned from his good friend Tucker.
Never trust someone who is "just asking questions"
I don't understand how anyone who thinks of themselves as being center or left could watch him after the way he behaved on Carlson's show. That was one of the first things I watched when I looked up Dore upon first hearing his name to see what I thought he was like. Realized very quickly that he was a grifter leaning further and further right for money.
Pathetic little snow flake comment.
Tucker Carlson is left-wing when it comes to foreign policy, which is the only thing him & Jimmy agree on. Have you got nothing on him that you have to resort to attempts at guilt by association?
How dare someone go into the belly of the beast to try to change the minds of others. How dare they act amicable towards each other. They must be such "GOOD" friends lol!
Hi Shaun, the author of the Singapore article is calling him a liar as well. It's all thanks to your good work. Hopefully this will cause the dominoes to fall.
Fingers crossed, but don't count on it. He's incredibly resilient.
Lol no way, sadly. His thousands of supporters are still there to keep him afloat and the sub number is still insanely high. In a few days everybody will forget about this and it will be business as usual. And in a few months he will use this situation to prove how many have been trying to "cancel" him but will fail to explain the real reason why.
@@lorelange You're probably right, but since the author is now involved maybe there's at least a chance his "Vaccine Questioning" vaccines will be shut down for the anti-vaccine propaganda that they are. Is it possible for us to flag his videos- at least the Singapore one? If he's not making $$$ my guess is his interest in vaccines and mandates will fade to nothing.
I did just flag the Singapore video. If you want to do so as well go here for the original video: th-cam.com/video/ph-co5r_ylA/w-d-xo.html it's pretty easy and I sited this video.
@@Insipid42 yep, already flagged it.
"We are pleased to report that, so far, the only significant finding has been that if you force a baby squirrel to smoke seven-hundred cannabis joints a day, he will become disoriented, seems to take the laws of self-preservation less seriously, tending to play with his nuts rather than store them."
Nicki Minaj's cousin's friend is an EXTREMELY reliable source though, Shaun.
😂
@@drivetone7942 Yeah, anecdotes do not mean crap, especially when the Ministry of Health in that country could not find any evidence to verify. Basically, it is hear-say of an anecdote when there has been literally zero other cases while other side-effects have been verified.
I'm dying to find a right-wing youtube channel that says things like 'I encourage you thoroughly check my sources so you can be sure I'm not misrepresenting things'. So far, no success.
Actually, a lot of right wingers claim to "do their own research". It's usually all too obvious that they lack even the most minimal understanding of how to research a topic. I suspect a lot of them are simply lying, and those that aren't think research means to visit their nearest propaganda outlet, find something they agree with, and call it a day. I'm mostly unconvinced that a right-wing outlet encouraging as you suggest would make a difference.
Quite a few do, I think it's intended to be a bluff.
I know PragerU does but often, when checked, the sources' links either don't work or the actual source was misrepresented or completely comes to the opposite conclusion than the rightwing hacks that used it. The most hilarious and disappointing thing is that they correctly assume their core audience will not bother to check because they know they are lazy, easily led numptys.
Jimmy literally says this multiple times. Hell my redpill came from the FDA and CDC.
I think Aydin Paladin does (?)
Even if they do, it doesn't matter if the audience never bothers to check, and even if a few do, it still doesn't matter if they don't speak up about it, and if they do speak up, it doesn't matter because they will be drowned out/won't be heard
Even if they are, there are other tactics, like cherry-picking citations to form the narrative in the first place, or relying on other people's lack of qualifications on the subject
As someone who lives in Singapore, the safety I feel with current vaccinations being so high as well checks that keep vaccinated people away from malls is indescribable.
I have a fully vaccinated at-risk parent who is provided free booster shots, and I know that even if a case occurs the hospitals are not bogged like they were when I was in Europe and are available to give care to severe cases, of which there are very few.
Singapore has had a great track record of being ahead of the curve on the pandemic, and I think a lot of countries could learn a thing or two about them.
My uncle works in a hospital in Singapore. From what I understand, the spike in cases was due to the non citizen workers from mostly india all being packed into boarding facilities with deplorable conditions. It was basically the fault of the government completely overlooking the people with no rights who make the country able to function. I hope they rectify their despotism and massive social inequity, but it is a very safe country and I feel like my family is safe there. lots of racism against non chinese there though.
American reactionaries’ fantasies about other countries are always both baffling to anyone who lives in those places, and a fascinating subject in itself. They think Australia is a totalitarian nightmare, and that British cities in the midlands are run by sharia law.
@@alexhiggins5911 Sorry but American fantasies are just sad, because they influence everyone else. Like the ilusion of democracy where they vote for two old white men, one of which calls for war on the brown people and the other on the yellow people or whatever. Then neither delivers on the promises for their own voters and blame the other wing of their party.
@@Alejandro-te2nt i agree some of the working conditions and treatment of other races in Singapore are definitely not great. i was just commenting on their systemic war on covid, that’s all
@@Alejandro-te2nt I understand this re: India, India was getting absolutely destroyed by COVID just earlier this year IIRC. It took them very long to start getting vaccines, I think they were eventually able to start manufacturing their own vaccines though, I think?
Clearly this kind of research needs the amount of resources only CIA FUNDING can offer.
-Jimmy Dore
No really, he said this.
lol no way, there's no way that's an exact quote or even close to. 😂
@@ben5154 Nah it's not an exact quote of course
Perhaps MI6
I don't think that Jimmy truly believes that Shaun is funded by the CIA. The man knows he has a bunch of conspiracy theorists subscribers and knows they will eat up the typical "FuNdEd bY CiA" rhetoric. Fella is a grifter
@@celticcomradelad1850 Honestly he may actually be that insane. Recall he also said Trump getting 3 Supreme Court picks is as likely as the moon falling into Lake Michigan. I think you're probably right, but the guy is completely delusional so I'm not totally sure.
"computer, enhance!"
what a legend :')
As someone who often agrees politically with Dore, I loved this meticulous & thorough takedown of Jimmy’s covid rhetoric. I watched his show fairly regularly at one point but his constant cherry-picking of vaccine info lost me. He’s intentionally spreading misinformation. And his “apology” video regarding the Singapore article he lied about only solidified my decision to walk away for good. He’s lost.
He never took down the video, nor did he even disagree with the entire premise of his unhinged dangerous rant in the first place.
Same. Such a huge disappointment.
I’m with you. His anti vax content was the final straw that made me unsubscribe. I’m done with Dore.
Who gives a damn about you this vid is as false as your centrist democrats and you’ll see the results in next election
there is no way in hell you have seen his videos and consider him anti-vax at the same time, not remotely possible to be true. He has said multiple times that he is pro-vaccine, think people in risk groups should take it, has taken it himself. He just is against mandates and thinks its fair to ask questions about vaccine safety. That is not REMOTELY anti-vax. that is a reasonably minded thought process
I'm so exhausted when it comes to needing to learn new things. I can see why so many people thirst for easy answers.
The moment a video from Shaun drops is always the moment where I'll make myself a tea to just listen to him speak
It's a good reason to ring that bell. It's best to not miss a video because of how infrequently they come out.
OH that sounds like a great idea. Making some tea brb, thanks!
i grew up on a commun that was deep into alternative medicine and im just trying to unlearn all the bullshit ive been taught for 19 years,, thanks Shaun
Good luck on your journey. I have found it really hard to unlearn things. Hopefully it is easier for you.
Step 1:
learn to distinquish good from bad Information - know what logical fallacies are, the scientific method, how good argueing, journalism works etc.(persuasive or general emotional argueing should be a redflag, entertainers presenting "the truth" should be a redflag..etc.)
Step 2: replace mis Informationen with unbiased knowledge in different fields
(listen to experts and different opinions)
Step 3: dont get overconfident - everyone can make mistakes or get tricked
(learn to recognize propaganda or bad arguments..)
I dont envy people growing up with this amount and kind of media
What does any of this have to do with alternative medicine?
@@trippmoore
"alternative medicin" isnt much different from "alternative" facts
Both have the tendacy to sell fiction as facts to get your $
In Jimmy’s defense he always said he’d sell out for a wheel barrel of $ and he did. The right has all the $ so he sold out to em.