I remember the mazak lathe we had in the factory. It was literally unbreakable, kept on working for years without any technical interventions. Superb engineers and very dedicated assembly workforce.
As a manual machinist w/ 40+ yrs experience in both small and large parts (lathe, mill, hbm,vtl)I believe what you fellas do in nothing short of miraculous!!! Yea, the new machines are phenomenal and have amazing capabilities, they don’t make a single move without your input and guidance. My hat is off to you, sir.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Start working with FANUC and MAZATROL since 1985 . I 'm 66 1/2 working 45 years in CNC and still working as full time CNC programmer machinist . Today CNC is so much advanced , productive and complicated comparing to the 80's . I love CNC up to the present but I will retire next 3 years . CNC has change my ways of daily living . WISER , PATIENT. CONFIDENT. FEARLESS . Thank you CNC .
I imagine these Mazaks have some seriously advanced graphics that take everything in to account. There's no way you could single block this program out safely.
@@MoistGrundle I believe you can get some level of Sim software on the machine controller. From what I’ve heard though, you probably want a decent simulation program with a dialed in post-processor if you really want to be safe.
@@DaveInTheFort compared to a simple job on manual lathe/mill where the tailstock gets in the way, the compound gets in the way, the clamps gets in the way, and then to measure anything you have to pull the entire setup apart and find its still got 0.1mm to go... oh, and at some point the chuck will magically undo itself and drop the endmill 5mm or so...
I'm integrating a Fanuc robot to a Integrex i-500S and while it is a cool machine, early on it suffered from toolchanger alignment issues, which once the toolchanger got properly aligned, hasn't had many problems with it since then. It also burned up the proportional valve for the H2 chuck. But these are really only "teething problems" (startup issues). As for programming to the Mazak, it's going to do what it wants to do and you just have to adapt. The most annoying thing about the Mazak is error messages, they could use some work, such as: Commanding the door to open and close (a programming bug that I inherited from the original PLC code) will cause a door close time out. Even though the Mazak isn't trying to close the door. That's not helpful... Random spindle faults on both heads and the mill. No idea as to what is causing that. Certainly not any issues with the spindles. And just as bad (if not worse), the Mazak will fault out and just sit there at times. Most of these issues have been worked out, but it could be much better on their end. Specifically sending the PLC the error message (like a cutter out of spec, or a blank that is too long or too short) would keep me from having to come up with ways to figure that things aren't right with the lathe on my end. This is supposed to be a "lights out" process. Not if it keeps doing this. Other things like telling the G code program to stop just inhibits the doors. Sigh... There are a few more Mazaks on site, none of which I have anything to do with. And one had a nasty bug where the pallet conveyor lost its position but the error showed up as a "Z axis" fault. That took a week to sort out. Coincidentally, I got a call from a friend who had the same issue right after the tech left. I let them know what the Mazak tech (who was excellent) finally figured out. So Mazaks aren't all that friendly to their own it seems. To get an idea as to where we are in the G code, I've asked the machinists to rotate the unused spindle to a specific position based on what tool they are using (for the first half of the operation H1 is unused, then H2 is unused from there on). I can read that position in the PLC which I'll interpret as to where the process is at any given time. It's a kludge, but it'll work. Along with the PLC, the robot controller, and of course the Mazak, I'm using an excellent free SCADA package called "AdvancedHMI" (you should really check it out before wasting money on an HMI such as a Siemens or a Rockwell HMI). It takes the build sheet (in Excel format) and finds the parts that are to be built, how many, and in what order, and selects the appropriate program in the Mazak. It also displays what faults and messages that the Mazak does send to the HMI. This is all done in Visual Studio VB.Net. Overall, the machinists are happy with it, which is good enough for me.
Visual Basic and excel sheets… *shudders* I feel like Python or especially Erlang/Elixir combined with a proper database would be more appropriate, due to better reliability and scalability.
If we can 3D print a rough part and then 3D milling, may save a lot of material and save time in the milling machine. Of course, 3D print takes a longer time.
Depends on the use of the part, 3-d printed parts are not as strong as ones machined from solid stock, if the stresses on it are not great it will work but if strength is needed better off machining it from solid stock. 3-D printing is best used for prototypes.
@@phillhuddleston9445 On this machine, broken tool sensing is enabled. It will either stop or switch to another tool. But...in general you are 100% correct. Which is why a competent operator is required still
@@IndelibleHD factory doesn't fix things after the warranty expires. I do. The blink of the eye warp speed is for salesman to impress the buyers. Reality has a fat check attached to it a few years down the road, sooner if 24/7 operation uses the machine. We had those speeds cut back on all our new machines to extend the life of the ATC and prevent heavy tools from slinging out.
Yeah really nice, but you need a top notch programmer. Good luck with that. Go cheap and crash a machine even if it has software to “help” prevent that.
I remember the mazak lathe we had in the factory. It was literally unbreakable, kept on working for years without any technical interventions. Superb engineers and very dedicated assembly workforce.
As a manual machinist w/ 40+ yrs experience in both small and large parts (lathe, mill, hbm,vtl)I believe what you fellas do in nothing short of miraculous!!! Yea, the new machines are phenomenal and have amazing capabilities, they don’t make a single move without your input and guidance. My hat is off to you, sir.👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸
Start working with FANUC and MAZATROL since 1985 . I 'm 66 1/2 working 45 years in CNC and still working as full time CNC programmer machinist .
Today CNC is so much advanced , productive and complicated comparing to the 80's .
I love CNC up to the present but I will retire next 3 years . CNC has change my ways of daily living . WISER , PATIENT. CONFIDENT. FEARLESS . Thank you CNC .
Holy crap imagine how tough it must be to test this program for collision when you are running it for the first time
I imagine these Mazaks have some seriously advanced graphics that take everything in to account. There's no way you could single block this program out safely.
@@MoistGrundle I believe you can get some level of Sim software on the machine controller. From what I’ve heard though, you probably want a decent simulation program with a dialed in post-processor if you really want to be safe.
The standard Mazatrol software has collision detection included. As long as your Tool Data is accurate, it's as easy as pressing a button.
@@DaveInTheFort compared to a simple job on manual lathe/mill where the tailstock gets in the way, the compound gets in the way, the clamps gets in the way, and then to measure anything you have to pull the entire setup apart and find its still got 0.1mm to go... oh, and at some point the chuck will magically undo itself and drop the endmill 5mm or so...
@@Thorhian its called Cam-Plete
What's amazing to me is how heavy that trunnion is and YET it maintains accuracy. Just incredible.
Answer: pid
What's pid?
@@peterl6263
If I still had a tv set I could replace it with this. It's probably way more interesting than what's on tv anyway.
I'm integrating a Fanuc robot to a Integrex i-500S and while it is a cool machine, early on it suffered from toolchanger alignment issues, which once the toolchanger got properly aligned, hasn't had many problems with it since then. It also burned up the proportional valve for the H2 chuck. But these are really only "teething problems" (startup issues).
As for programming to the Mazak, it's going to do what it wants to do and you just have to adapt.
The most annoying thing about the Mazak is error messages, they could use some work, such as:
Commanding the door to open and close (a programming bug that I inherited from the original PLC code) will cause a door close time out. Even though the Mazak isn't trying to close the door. That's not helpful...
Random spindle faults on both heads and the mill. No idea as to what is causing that. Certainly not any issues with the spindles.
And just as bad (if not worse), the Mazak will fault out and just sit there at times. Most of these issues have been worked out, but it could be much better on their end. Specifically sending the PLC the error message (like a cutter out of spec, or a blank that is too long or too short) would keep me from having to come up with ways to figure that things aren't right with the lathe on my end. This is supposed to be a "lights out" process. Not if it keeps doing this.
Other things like telling the G code program to stop just inhibits the doors. Sigh...
There are a few more Mazaks on site, none of which I have anything to do with. And one had a nasty bug where the pallet conveyor lost its position but the error showed up as a "Z axis" fault. That took a week to sort out. Coincidentally, I got a call from a friend who had the same issue right after the tech left. I let them know what the Mazak tech (who was excellent) finally figured out. So Mazaks aren't all that friendly to their own it seems.
To get an idea as to where we are in the G code, I've asked the machinists to rotate the unused spindle to a specific position based on what tool they are using (for the first half of the operation H1 is unused, then H2 is unused from there on). I can read that position in the PLC which I'll interpret as to where the process is at any given time. It's a kludge, but it'll work.
Along with the PLC, the robot controller, and of course the Mazak, I'm using an excellent free SCADA package called "AdvancedHMI" (you should really check it out before wasting money on an HMI such as a Siemens or a Rockwell HMI). It takes the build sheet (in Excel format) and finds the parts that are to be built, how many, and in what order, and selects the appropriate program in the Mazak. It also displays what faults and messages that the Mazak does send to the HMI. This is all done in Visual Studio VB.Net.
Overall, the machinists are happy with it, which is good enough for me.
Visual Basic and excel sheets… *shudders* I feel like Python or especially Erlang/Elixir combined with a proper database would be more appropriate, due to better reliability and scalability.
Oh good see now what you've done!? Come here my baby lathe it's okay I won't let the scary robot lathe get you :pats little Wen on the head:
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Brilliant video. Просто офигеть .....
A great vid of that mill 5 x pallet changer badass
Просто офигеть ....
If we can 3D print a rough part and then 3D milling, may save a lot of material and save time in the milling machine. Of course, 3D print takes a longer time.
Saving material isn't really a thing. It just gets recycled by melding it later on.
This is what is happening now and more so going forward. And saving material is indeed a thing 😆 as if wasting all the chips is something useful
Yeah it exists, many machines around that can do this and its pretty useful.
Depends on the use of the part, 3-d printed parts are not as strong as ones machined from solid stock, if the stresses on it are not great it will work but if strength is needed better off machining it from solid stock. 3-D printing is best used for prototypes.
There are literally other Mazak machines that do this, along with DMG Mori I believe.
Can you actually prg a machine or do you just copy and paste other OEMs for clicks
Ah, yes, the forbidden shredded cheese.
I love the sound of face milling steel
Невероятно!
I love watching tools making other tools
You say that until they take cover😂
I want one !
I don't think this will wok in a production setting? Fine for smaller things, like chess pieces, maybe?
Better be getting good money for them parts. Mazak is very expensive to repair.
Most machining centers are.
Is the rotary that the fixture is mounted to on a slipring or is it rewinding itself?
More like machining "agility" am I right 😂? ... I'll show myself out...
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Which online course could be good for graphic designing or coding parts of constructing it?
Nice
The things people can do with money...imagine what can be done without it....
🥴 i am drunk to understand it
It twerks like nobodies business
Brilliant video
Some Barry White music should be dubbed over the clip
Remember my❤.
I feel like the cnc is just flexin on me
I see potential for a 5 axis robotic bartender......
Love the dance moves
160 tools... 😱😱
which cam software did you use?
To the untrained eye impressive,in the real world not so ,wasted movements ""all show and no go"
Imagine só quando começarem a atuar com inteligencia artificial...
What happens when it goes wrong?
Worst case scenario mill will break.
It will only happen on the first run.
Once it is proved out, it will do this all day long
@@gregbrightwell662 Unless a tool breaks, the next tool may crash.
@@phillhuddleston9445
On this machine, broken tool sensing is enabled.
It will either stop or switch to another tool.
But...in general you are 100% correct.
Which is why a competent operator is required still
Great
That a hella of programmer
Боюсь представить что буде через 100 лет
How much does it cost? (The machine).
$500,000
Ta! @@dugdogsc
Can't wait for the crash videos.
mazak is a best machine
Mazak's good, Mori's better.
Ran them both. Give me a Mori any day of the week.
But need equal skilled programmer
@@lonnieporter8566 Absolutely love Mori turning centers. Even the older ones run well and true.
Mazak is good once the bugs are worked out.
In cnc programmer career safe in future??
yes
@@Limosical ohk
@@Limosical how can a cnc programmer earns in lakhs....???
@@airforcemission1838 1 to 2 lakh
@@Limosical kitne din ke experience ke bad???
Slow down that tool changer.
It sure looks good this fast, but you're not the one who's gonna be fixing it when it breaks.
That tool changer settings are from the factory. They are fine where they are.
The tool changer on the Toyoda's I've set up and ran are just as fast. Had it throw a few due to scrap though.
@@IndelibleHD factory doesn't fix things after the warranty expires. I do. The blink of the eye warp speed is for salesman to impress the buyers. Reality has a fat check attached to it a few years down the road, sooner if 24/7 operation uses the machine.
We had those speeds cut back on all our new machines to extend the life of the ATC and prevent heavy tools from slinging out.
@@notyou1877 Tools shouldn't be launching out of tool arms of they are within the weight parameters.
@@IndelibleHD "shouldn't," that's what the factory tech said too.
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Yeah really nice, but you need a top notch programmer. Good luck with that. Go cheap and crash a machine even if it has software to “help” prevent that.
Didn't see a crash did you?
@@IndelibleHD
Naaaah, never 😏
No way you're programming this without CAM.
@@IndelibleHD It was edited out...
it is not a hermle
thats why it works
Mazak means joke in Indian
I've ran Mazaks, they are no joke.
Spindle noise is loud
no shit, hsk holder going 18,000 rpm i don't care what machine it is its loud