Nice job Erin! An unspoken, but implied tip is that you can use wood glue for a high powered rocket. Epoxy is not always necessary as some might believe.
I don't typically use one unless there is a very compelling reason. I'm building a cluster model now with motor tubes that have different lengths. In this case, I need a third ring in the system.
@@maxpattio3220 The kit was discontinued. Now we recommend the Apogee Zephyr or Peregrine. They are similar size and are actually better because they are easier to put together.
For one thing, don't rest the tube on an angle with only one ring in place. Even if you are only gluing one ring, at least put another on the tube so there's less of an angle. The other thing is that you can go to a hardware store and get several large spring clips (they look like a large metal clothes pin) or even a "hobby clamp" type of device. Get a couple of those, and put on on either side of the ring to support it from either side. This will stiffen the ring while the glues dries.
No sweat. You could also try a plastic "speed square" from Lowe's or Home Depot. This will have a notch out of the center, so you can clamp it (or zip tie it) to the tube, right next to the ring. Then you can use some regular clothes pins to secure the ring to the speed square, which stiffens gives you a nice 90-degree edge to clamp to. Basically, it's a 90-degree "fixture" right on the tube. Get the clamps that are weaker, so they don't crush the tube. $20 will solve your problem forever.
Would recommend you guys consider swapping out the plain hex nuts for some elastic insert nuts for those eye-bolts in these kits. That would negate the need to slop epoxy onto the nut and threads, and generally give you a neater result.
i also used a cheap drill battery for the power going to the rocket and a cheap charger yeap rechargeable, i got it at harbor fright,and the box at radio shack, use a safity switch recomended, radio shack has them too, theres six aa batteries operateing the reciver and a 9 volt for the trainsmiter 27 mhz , i have about $50 in the box, the range is about 50 yards but have got 100 yards out of it, a good safe distance from the rocket, much better then 30 feet,plus its easyer to track your rocket,
@apogeerockets i have a problem when building my rockets keeping my centering rings straight and than the glue sests and they go on crooked. any tips? I do use super glue(plastic cement) wich is a fast setting glue so that might be why. any glue that i can use that might work good but dont set as fast?
It isn't quite as strong as epoxy, and a lot more expensive. We do sell 15minute epoxy on our website that is much more economical. See the video description for a link to our site.
You can have the rocket the same diameter as the motor. We call those "minimum diameter" rockets. The advantage of minimum diameter is they go higher. The disadvantage is they go higher. A lot of times they go so high you can't see them anymore. What fun is that? We want to see the rocket during the whole trajectory.
make a radio control launcher does away with all that wire laying around and haveing to roll it up just a short wire to the rocket, use a relay to contact the high voltage to the rocket, i used a toy truck radio control i got at good will it works great no interfearence at all.. has a good range to can get way back from the rocket, use the two motor wires to trip the relay, remove all other wrires except the battery wires from the reciver in the truck,
I have a no metal rule, metal is completely unnecessary for this size of rocket No metal in the structure or even using it to help build the rocket itself, you know you can buy that same screw eye in plastic
Erin should do more builds. Very relaxing to watch- like watching Bob Ross painting or Norm Abram building furniture!
Yeah theres a who series on it
Thank you for this walkthrough! I just finished building my first HPR (LOC Precision HyperLOC 835) and these videos were incredibly helpful.
Nice job Erin! An unspoken, but implied tip is that you can use wood glue for a high powered rocket. Epoxy is not always necessary as some might believe.
We're do you buy this kit
Well done, making an instructional movie is not easy. I enjoyed watching .
would this be a good intro level high power rocket?
im a bit of a high power noob but i was just curious, shouldnt there be a 3rd ring in there to help secure the fin on top aswell?
I don't typically use one unless there is a very compelling reason. I'm building a cluster model now with motor tubes that have different lengths. In this case, I need a third ring in the system.
@sfineberg Not quite. It is custom-made for us by Mad-Cow. We don't have a real name for it yet. But it will be a dual-deployment starter set.
Would you mind telling me what kit was used here.
@@maxpattio3220 The kit was discontinued. Now we recommend the Apogee Zephyr or Peregrine. They are similar size and are actually better because they are easier to put together.
For one thing, don't rest the tube on an angle with only one ring in place. Even if you are only gluing one ring, at least put another on the tube so there's less of an angle. The other thing is that you can go to a hardware store and get several large spring clips (they look like a large metal clothes pin) or even a "hobby clamp" type of device. Get a couple of those, and put on on either side of the ring to support it from either side. This will stiffen the ring while the glues dries.
No sweat. You could also try a plastic "speed square" from Lowe's or Home Depot. This will have a notch out of the center, so you can clamp it (or zip tie it) to the tube, right next to the ring. Then you can use some regular clothes pins to secure the ring to the speed square, which stiffens gives you a nice 90-degree edge to clamp to. Basically, it's a 90-degree "fixture" right on the tube. Get the clamps that are weaker, so they don't crush the tube. $20 will solve your problem forever.
Good idea getting another perspective. Erin needs to remember to speak up at times so she is heard by the microphone.
Could you use Loc-tite for the eye-bolt?
My 4 year will smash this Build
Need to zoom to see what there doing. Hard to see 5 miles away
Would recommend you guys consider swapping out the plain hex nuts for some elastic insert nuts for those eye-bolts in these kits. That would negate the need to slop epoxy onto the nut and threads, and generally give you a neater result.
How do get the engines at the launch site?
contact the club hosting the event. They all help you.
what model is she building?
What is the kit in use?
where do you get tubes like that?
appreciate the advice man.
i also used a cheap drill battery for the power going to the rocket and a cheap charger yeap rechargeable, i got it at harbor fright,and the box at radio shack, use a safity switch recomended, radio shack has them too, theres six aa batteries operateing the reciver and a 9 volt for the trainsmiter 27 mhz , i have about $50 in the box, the range is about 50 yards but have got 100 yards out of it, a good safe distance from the rocket, much better then 30 feet,plus its easyer to track your rocket,
@apogeerockets i have a problem when building my rockets keeping my centering rings straight and than the glue sests and they go on crooked. any tips? I do use super glue(plastic cement) wich is a fast setting glue so that might be why. any glue that i can use that might work good but dont set as fast?
HPR and MPR rockets don't use motor stops. the motoors have the thrust ring already built into the motor at the back.
Whats that tube made up of???
can you use 29mm casing closures from a 29/60 on a 29/40-120 casig?
And how did you made that holes for fins??
Can I use a medium CA glue?
It isn't quite as strong as epoxy, and a lot more expensive. We do sell 15minute epoxy on our website that is much more economical. See the video description for a link to our site.
Why are the rockets such a larger diameter than the engine?
You can have the rocket the same diameter as the motor. We call those "minimum diameter" rockets. The advantage of minimum diameter is they go higher. The disadvantage is they go higher. A lot of times they go so high you can't see them anymore. What fun is that? We want to see the rocket during the whole trajectory.
The q are you aerospace noob
i am not shore but did you miss the motor stop
What is that big tube called???
That shock cord is also overkill
make a radio control launcher does away with all that wire laying around and haveing to roll it up just a short wire to the rocket, use a relay to contact the high voltage to the rocket, i used a toy truck radio control i got at good will it works great no interfearence at all.. has a good range to can get way back from the rocket, use the two motor wires to trip the relay, remove all other wrires except the battery wires from the reciver in the truck,
@budwheizzah That's a good tip. Thanks!
That's a Madcow Patriot isn't it?
@JDrockerDUDE i build low power not high power. just to let you know
I used a thin tube from an aluminum foil rap that eventually ran out
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i used a RC on the model rocket launcher
geesh
@sfineberg looks closer to a loc graduater just bigger lol.
I have a no metal rule, metal is completely unnecessary for this size of rocket
No metal in the structure or even using it to help build the rocket itself, you know you can buy that same screw eye in plastic
She seems really nervous... and it's adorable.
ikr she looks so fragile and nervous
I hate for my first comment to be critical... but the eye-bolt was 90 degrees off..
at about 5:30 and so
Where do you buy it