I’m a Cho’Gath one trick and Saku has actually coached me before, this guy is out of this world with Cho and genuinely is a nice guy too. So glad you made a video about him!
Midbeast: "Now we need to hard shove this in... otherwise he ..." *Cho Dies Midbeast: "That's a classic overstay I tell you guys a billion times to never do this"
I mean this in the best way possible: Your videos make me fall asleep. I love to doze off to your voice or just have a playlist of you running all night while Im in bed. Love it
That Cho'Gath full AP mid seems disgustingly over powered damnnn. I won't be happy if I ever play versus such a monster. But to be honest I like that a lot of players are discovering some awesome builds and ways to climb the ranks. Also, love to watch em play in their own way. I am a big fan Midbeast watching your content for years now and I love when you share some of those undiscovered players that are using some strategy that seems odd but works great. Thanks for the awesome content! 😊
I've been having such a hard time lately in life but it always makes my day better when I come home and get to watch your videos while I eat. It helps me de-stress and not worry about everything else that's going wrong. Just wanted to say thank you man, I appreciate you
One fun thing about Cho is his Q is stays a flat 50 mana the entire game. It doesn’t scale in cost. Once you get lost chapter you can basically spam it. All it takes is one Q land, W , Everfrost, E auto, Feast to 100-0 most midlane champs.
Bit of interesting tech at 1:55 - Cho throws his Q at the point where the ground 'descends' into the river, and you can't even see half of the Cho Q hitbox. I think that's one of the main reasons Sylas doesn't dodge it in time.
Dude, the nostalgic feeling you get with Cho is the same feeling I get with Annie. It's weird. She isn't picked so much, so when I hear quotes, I feel like I've heard it from another game, but it's most definitely from league. Annie was my first main for a good year. I made the newbie mistake and bought her with RP 😢
While this was fun, as a Sion mid OTP (Sion and Cho have similar weaknesses and counters in some aspects) I can wholeheartedly say you should not pick this one up right now. The highest pick rate champs right now (Syndra, sylas) will absolutely shit on you. Don't do this to yourself.
in my experience AP cho gath is either super strong or completely useless. All depends if the spells land, and against some champs is really hard to land his abilities. Where as something like syndra will always be useful even if she loses lane. maybe im stupid but i dont even think he scales well into late as AP, sure he has a lot of health but he isnt actually tanky, his damage feels underwhelming for spending all your gold into AP once it gets to like 30 min + if he snowballs he feels broken but if he loses or even goes even i dont think hes very good. but hey im not challenger so i could be completely wrong.
@@SilverRat-ez2gjAs someone who main him as ap I can support this opinion. Cho'gath's real threat is his cc and if his ability to zone out carries or assassins with the threat of his combo. It only takes one ability to start the chain and quickly finish someone off, provided of course you can hit it. The extra hp is just there for a larger margin of error and staying power against the other laner but shouldn't be relied upon in a team fight. Good peel will usually stop him in his tracks as he easily gets popped late game. His power spike mid game should be the optimal time for you to try and finish the game before the others inevitably catch up.
I did go against this cho mid earlier, i was playing sett. He's so absurdly strong especially when he gets ahead you just cant do anything but i still won the game after forcing fights in other lanes. Cho was also easy to kill since we had ashe and sett chase
2:07 "we need to hard shove this in, otherwise... and he's dead. that's a classic overstay, i tell you guys a billion times don't do it" classic MidBeasto
i totally agree with your statement of helping out streamers, since ur community is huge. I do really hate people who just steal content from bigger streamers / youtubers, to give themself more cloud.
I've been playing Cho mid for like 3 seasons. I get flamed all the time by enemy laners because of how much i destroy them. I max q. It has a 100% AP ratio. You hit q, you hit everfrost, you silence, and you eat. All squishies are dead.
Midbrast have you finished college btw? Just a question since im struggling and want to attend one, in actuality it's faculty and not college if there is a difference.
I have been dominating mid with Chogath for a while now going straight AP, he is soooo underrated! If you catch any mid with a Q.. its pretty much instant death follow by W, E, R
THE EASIEST WAY TO CLIMB. Cho gath mid- or any other tank- is literally the most degenerate garbage. In a lane where most champions can only burst you for at most 400 damage per trade, picking a tank or bruiser with stats that pretty much give you double the health and resistances of your opponent is absolutely braindead. Not to mention that these same champions also usually have a rediculous amount of sustain. Cho passive heals him for 14 hp each cs. Simply clearing a wave means he heals back 80 hp. If you want to torture an innocent league player, this is the way to do it.
my most og league memory is playing Evelyn and taking heal smite rushing Will of the Ancients to not die in the jungle without runes and brain etc. i was cooking back then
I'm not getting why you didn't take a game from his stream directly. Do you do that only with hyperfamous streamers? That's a bit unfair, middobeasto-san
They need to put respawn timers back, this shit sucks like it is. You pretty much get no punishment for dieing early and most of the times you even get to win lane cuz the enemy lane is fked up and he tries to shove in to fix it.
midbeast have you checked out pekinwoof? as far as NA talent mid he's one of the best imo. recently did an entire climb to challenger playing off-meta picks. seriously. in diamond he played AD galeforce blitzcrank and hard carried. Even if you aren't crazy good at cho, he's really good as a counterpick into some champions who are less mobile or need to channel. like cho into asol is messed up. any time he breathes you Q or scream at him. cho/senna is still as broken bot lane as ever too for those of us lowelo enough for duos
is it possible for you to post 2 games from these types of picks, one vs a ranged matchup and 1 vs a melee how would this go into something like a orianna or something?
You usually play around jungle in range matchups, you only really have kill prio once the enemy laner makes a mistake and walks into ur Q c: range matchups play a lot different than melee
ap will be hit alot with new season items, no more everfrost and demonic, the stormsurge item will be great on him, but he will lack the everfrost to be able to deal with dashes, might need to build with protobelt always
You rush swiftness boots against her and normally it just plays like a typical mage matchup, you poke/push wave with Q and whenever she uses W+R to trap you for full combo, you silence her (which removes her R) and dodge the Q with Swifty boots. She should never solo-kill you and once her egg is down, she's basically free af to stack c:
Midbeast keeps calling every champion insanely broken after some Korean onetricks stomp a game with it. He says the champions are free elo and then he never really picks them himself. That's confusing
Cho is definitely great, Grasp, Comet, HoB, Predator, Electrocute are all very viable runes on him, definitely think it depends who you face and what you build yourself.
This pick makes me wna kms on a regular basis. I just dont understand what the counterplay is. He has 6 sec cd on q lvl 1 and can perma spam constantly full mama. He has wave manip, cc, tankiness, huge damage including true damage and infinite scaling. Its so stupid imo
Pretty sure I was playing ap cho mid in season 3 just after I finished my 2k game stint as swain across last half of season 2 and start of season 3. I peaked about 1243 elo great time got so drunk while doing league lans back than I miss it. that and the disk I got from eb games
It's an okay wr tbf. But yeah. It's neither busted nor is it new or _that_ uncommon. AP Cho mid has been a thing for years and you run into it now and again. I've been picking it myself from time to time since S11 (mostly against Annie but playing against Annie blind pick is obv not a common scenario so don't play it much)
@SinCity-we5kn the hell u saying?... He's not a noob at cho, he's almost the best cho in the world 💀💀. He explained that he didn't use his R in herald because he can kill ziggs after that (and it literally happened in the vid), it's worth it if you do that because you are denying the enemi, he even explained that better in the comment section omg .-. As a master otp cho... the goal of stacks you need to have is 10, more than that it's... ok... but you have to have your R in every fight
@@Alkeides. yeah bro if my parents were siblings like yours maybe I’d understand your thought process but I can’t . I consistently get 12 stacks at 20 minutes I’d rather get stacks from objs cuz they’re limited
I edge to your videos
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Midbeast: "it's not cheesy, it's just, strong"
Midbeans: "jumping onto the rift were running hail of blades it's iNcReDiBlY cHeEsY" 👁️👄👁️
Shrodinger's cheese
he called hail of blades cheesy not the champ pick
cheesy runes and cheesy strats (sits in bushes for 5+ minutes), cho isnt cheesy tho, fr fr
League is so much fun when you watch the strong stuff done to other players instead of yourself and your team haha
I’m a Cho’Gath one trick and Saku has actually coached me before, this guy is out of this world with Cho and genuinely is a nice guy too. So glad you made a video about him!
He flamed my mother once in a game
ypu deserved and you know it@@nemanjalukic7009
@@nemanjalukic7009u probably deserved it
@@CATJAMMING7272 bro i deserved even worse
xdd like that attitude@@nemanjalukic7009
Yo this is me!! thanks midbeast!
Kappapenis
yay!
well played
Love u saku! WP
haha Cool! This is the first time seeing a the featured player in the comments. Nice game man.
Midbeast: "Now we need to hard shove this in... otherwise he ..." *Cho Dies
Midbeast: "That's a classic overstay I tell you guys a billion times to never do this"
Mans waffling
All of his reviews summed up lmao, I love the videos and the dude tho 😂😂
and this is why i love midbeast
I mean it's the same mentality as the 1000lp player and it got punished. nuff said
Lool
"you need to shove this in"
proceeds to shove it and get killed
"that's a classic overstay, I tell you guys not to do it"
I mean this in the best way possible: Your videos make me fall asleep. I love to doze off to your voice or just have a playlist of you running all night while Im in bed. Love it
That Cho'Gath full AP mid seems disgustingly over powered damnnn. I won't be happy if I ever play versus such a monster.
But to be honest I like that a lot of players are discovering some awesome builds and ways to climb the ranks. Also, love to watch em play in their own way.
I am a big fan Midbeast watching your content for years now and I love when you share some of those undiscovered players that are using some strategy that seems odd but works great. Thanks for the awesome content! 😊
I've been having such a hard time lately in life but it always makes my day better when I come home and get to watch your videos while I eat. It helps me de-stress and not worry about everything else that's going wrong.
Just wanted to say thank you man, I appreciate you
Stay active bro everything will be okay
Keep your head up
please get this man to 500k so his grandma can be proud of him for once
One fun thing about Cho is his Q is stays a flat 50 mana the entire game. It doesn’t scale in cost. Once you get lost chapter you can basically spam it. All it takes is one Q land, W , Everfrost, E auto, Feast to 100-0 most midlane champs.
Bit of interesting tech at 1:55 - Cho throws his Q at the point where the ground 'descends' into the river, and you can't even see half of the Cho Q hitbox. I think that's one of the main reasons Sylas doesn't dodge it in time.
I'm glad someone saw this, good catch!
Dude, the nostalgic feeling you get with Cho is the same feeling I get with Annie. It's weird. She isn't picked so much, so when I hear quotes, I feel like I've heard it from another game, but it's most definitely from league. Annie was my first main for a good year. I made the newbie mistake and bought her with RP 😢
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While this was fun, as a Sion mid OTP (Sion and Cho have similar weaknesses and counters in some aspects) I can wholeheartedly say you should not pick this one up right now. The highest pick rate champs right now (Syndra, sylas) will absolutely shit on you. Don't do this to yourself.
syndra isnt mobile, cho can take her poke, shouldnt be that difficult, but u really dont want to give your ult to sylas xd
in my experience AP cho gath is either super strong or completely useless. All depends if the spells land, and against some champs is really hard to land his abilities. Where as something like syndra will always be useful even if she loses lane. maybe im stupid but i dont even think he scales well into late as AP, sure he has a lot of health but he isnt actually tanky, his damage feels underwhelming for spending all your gold into AP once it gets to like 30 min + if he snowballs he feels broken but if he loses or even goes even i dont think hes very good. but hey im not challenger so i could be completely wrong.
@@SilverRat-ez2gjAs someone who main him as ap I can support this opinion. Cho'gath's real threat is his cc and if his ability to zone out carries or assassins with the threat of his combo. It only takes one ability to start the chain and quickly finish someone off, provided of course you can hit it. The extra hp is just there for a larger margin of error and staying power against the other laner but shouldn't be relied upon in a team fight. Good peel will usually stop him in his tracks as he easily gets popped late game. His power spike mid game should be the optimal time for you to try and finish the game before the others inevitably catch up.
I did go against this cho mid earlier, i was playing sett. He's so absurdly strong especially when he gets ahead you just cant do anything but i still won the game after forcing fights in other lanes. Cho was also easy to kill since we had ashe and sett chase
Cho is one of my least favorite opponents
3:10 wasnt bjergsen playing cho mid in pro play a few times?
2:07 "we need to hard shove this in, otherwise... and he's dead. that's a classic overstay, i tell you guys a billion times don't do it" classic MidBeasto
always lovely to see ls talking about picks like these 2 years before someone decides to main it and reach challenger with it
It's signature pick from old EU veteran Overpow, glad that Saku found succes on him.
I remember Overpow.
@@chillbro2275 he is s good guy
if you ever feel useless, just remember : that kayle won the game
Lol so did many of my top laners as I try my best to hard carry except when I have to roll fill as support or tank
yes silver@@pratikroy227
"kyle"
He got them bottom inhib so he wasn't useless
Midbeast is clearly wrong. Tophat Cho'Gath is clearly the best skin.
YES THE BANGER OUTRO IS BACK (song name?)
i totally agree with your statement of helping out streamers, since ur community is huge.
I do really hate people who just steal content from bigger streamers / youtubers, to give themself more cloud.
I'm so glad Midbeast brings all this players I would never know about
I've been playing Cho mid for like 3 seasons. I get flamed all the time by enemy laners because of how much i destroy them. I max q. It has a 100% AP ratio. You hit q, you hit everfrost, you silence, and you eat. All squishies are dead.
Back in the day this was my number one counter pick to assassins mid lane. Was tired of Zed and LeBlanc shitting on my xerath lol
Midbrast have you finished college btw? Just a question since im struggling and want to attend one, in actuality it's faculty and not college if there is a difference.
If you're still looking for NA players, eck0wns Lee Mid is pretty nuts. Been seeing people review him a lot.
I have been dominating mid with Chogath for a while now going straight AP, he is soooo underrated! If you catch any mid with a Q.. its pretty much instant death follow by W, E, R
THE EASIEST WAY TO CLIMB. Cho gath mid- or any other tank- is literally the most degenerate garbage. In a lane where most champions can only burst you for at most 400 damage per trade, picking a tank or bruiser with stats that pretty much give you double the health and resistances of your opponent is absolutely braindead. Not to mention that these same champions also usually have a rediculous amount of sustain. Cho passive heals him for 14 hp each cs. Simply clearing a wave means he heals back 80 hp. If you want to torture an innocent league player, this is the way to do it.
About time Saku gets some recognition :)
Midbeast at or near the end of the season you should do a vod review of each rank #1 player for all separate regions
my most og league memory is playing Evelyn and taking heal smite rushing Will of the Ancients to not die in the jungle without runes and brain etc. i was cooking back then
*Watches the first 1 minute of the vid*
wait a minute?
*Rewatches **0:12*
Hmmmm 🤔🤔
*Rewatches **0:45*
_Drew you got some explaining to do_
GRANDMA NOT GONNA BULLY THE INBETWEEN BEAST!!!
I first saw ap cho with a streamer called balori, still in love with it. So fun!
thx for the content to watch while i eat as always :D
I play chogath mid jg last months, I love the fact that a challenger thought the same
I'm not getting why you didn't take a game from his stream directly. Do you do that only with hyperfamous streamers? That's a bit unfair, middobeasto-san
27:37 "What's better than one rod? Two rods" - signed: DoubleDickDave
your grandma is fr a hater bro you need to cut that toxic energy out your life STAT
I remember following the Condon guide and playing the MF'ing Cho'Gath mid during Season 1-2. lol
its really hard to play chogath when your laner rushes t2 boots
Ever thought about doing a "The Ultimate Challenger" challenge? Try to get Challenger in all the main regions?
Not sure he thinks about anything else
Is that midbeast? The sexiest man alive, who beat dopa and faker? Omg 😍
Oh so this is why I got a cho mid who sprinted it cheers midbeast
for a second there i thought he was going talk about quantum's ap cho lol
No need to worry about your cousin, just tell your grandma you beat Dopa and Faker
They need to put respawn timers back, this shit sucks like it is. You pretty much get no punishment for dieing early and most of the times you even get to win lane cuz the enemy lane is fked up and he tries to shove in to fix it.
ahhh wacthing the baus play ap cho would be a treat
love your grandma
I Remember getting Cho R in Ulitmate Spellbook and it made any champ disgusting
what happened to midbeast on the superserver?
Yo I think ur mic is a bit unhappy. Dunno why but you were cutting out thru the video. Just wanted to give ya a heads up :)
Midbeast: you need to push this wave in
also midbeast
:Classic overstay, dont overstay guys
midbeast have you checked out pekinwoof? as far as NA talent mid he's one of the best imo.
recently did an entire climb to challenger playing off-meta picks. seriously. in diamond he played AD galeforce blitzcrank and hard carried.
Even if you aren't crazy good at cho, he's really good as a counterpick into some champions who are less mobile or need to channel. like cho into asol is messed up. any time he breathes you Q or scream at him. cho/senna is still as broken bot lane as ever too for those of us lowelo enough for duos
is it possible for you to post 2 games from these types of picks, one vs a ranged matchup and 1 vs a melee how would this go into something like a orianna or something?
You usually play around jungle in range matchups, you only really have kill prio once the enemy laner makes a mistake and walks into ur Q c: range matchups play a lot different than melee
@@Sakuritou that's just what I mean like I'd like to watch how this guy plays it just cause I see a lot more ranged matchups in my games
@@Sakuritou oh you are the guy haha, id just like to watch I mean like it's easier to watch what u do and then try to replicate I mean for me atleast
Midbeast. As someone thinking of becoming a streamer/content creator. Advice on how to build up a following?
ap will be hit alot with new season items, no more everfrost and demonic, the stormsurge item will be great on him, but he will lack the everfrost to be able to deal with dashes, might need to build with protobelt always
We need some Minishcap1 Singed reviews Mr. Midbeast.
But how they leave sylas open with chogath kayle and ashe picks
Can anybody explain why Horizon Focus? It’s meant for ranged champs/or ranged abilities right?
I sleep to your videos, unless I'm watching something I can try
The baus used to play cho like last season but stopped for whatever reason
Lol at first I thought this is the same Saku that is like top 1 Trynda world (Rangerzx) playing undercover with Chogath only
Bjergsen played Cho gath Mid against Hai in LCS in season 4 I believe and railed him, legit ate his ass
You can hold elixers?
GumaYusi was a Chogath player before we swaped to Bot
Baus did have a little cho gath phase earlier this year
You gotta cover teemo jungle next!
You should react to kesha more, fun to see your reactions to him. And it's insane how he is so good while playing like he does
But what does he do agains someone like Anivia?
You rush swiftness boots against her and normally it just plays like a typical mage matchup, you poke/push wave with Q and whenever she uses W+R to trap you for full combo, you silence her (which removes her R) and dodge the Q with Swifty boots. She should never solo-kill you and once her egg is down, she's basically free af to stack c:
Midbeast keeps calling every champion insanely broken after some Korean onetricks stomp a game with it. He says the champions are free elo and then he never really picks them himself. That's confusing
right off the rip 'we need to hard shove this in' gank comes in 'classic over stay' truly incredible
Mister middlest of beasts. I watch your videos to fall asleep to. You are my wholesome ASMR thank you love you. (Please stop flaming TheBaus though)
Baus does play AP Cho! It’s just been awhile.
That mid late game was kinda cancerous ngl
gentleman chogath is the best skin, UP YOU GO!
Cho main his size maxes out at ten stacks but the health and e damage stacks forever.
Drew you should do a video on samikin from NA he is an amazing zoe player who rank 1 a bit ago even with a chinese booster camping 1 at like 2k lp
You spelled my name wrong :)
god HoB cho is so much fun. Pretty great for tank too
Ikr, it's Hella fun
Cho is definitely great, Grasp, Comet, HoB, Predator, Electrocute are all very viable runes on him, definitely think it depends who you face and what you build yourself.
5K subs to half a mil!
This pick makes me wna kms on a regular basis. I just dont understand what the counterplay is. He has 6 sec cd on q lvl 1 and can perma spam constantly full mama. He has wave manip, cc, tankiness, huge damage including true damage and infinite scaling. Its so stupid imo
thank you drew im hardstuck bronze 3 oce with challenger mechanics thank you again for the videos
Pretty sure I was playing ap cho mid in season 3
just after I finished my 2k game stint as swain across last half of season 2 and start of season 3. I peaked about 1243 elo great time got so drunk while doing league lans back than I miss it. that and the disk I got from eb games
I have that nostalgia with old nunu
56%winrate, doesnt seem disgusting or strong...
Sure would feel disgusting if you got it in your team though
It's an okay wr tbf. But yeah. It's neither busted nor is it new or _that_ uncommon. AP Cho mid has been a thing for years and you run into it now and again. I've been picking it myself from time to time since S11 (mostly against Annie but playing against Annie blind pick is obv not a common scenario so don't play it much)
56% wr is OKAY? LMFAO you are bronze @@bexclue3007
As a Cho garb main silver 2 he’s a complete noob with Cho. He could’ve eaten hearld twice for 2 stacks but no he hits the eye to 1 shot it !!!!
Huh? Sorry if my question is dumb but... ¿are you saying this seriously? Do you think Saku is a noob at cho?
@@Alkeides. yup a Cho pro would find every way to get stacks from objs kills are infinite objs arent
@SinCity-we5kn the hell u saying?... He's not a noob at cho, he's almost the best cho in the world 💀💀. He explained that he didn't use his R in herald because he can kill ziggs after that (and it literally happened in the vid), it's worth it if you do that because you are denying the enemi, he even explained that better in the comment section omg .-.
As a master otp cho... the goal of stacks you need to have is 10, more than that it's... ok... but you have to have your R in every fight
@@Alkeides. yeah bro if my parents were siblings like yours maybe I’d understand your thought process but I can’t . I consistently get 12 stacks at 20 minutes I’d rather get stacks from objs cuz they’re limited
stop baiting with ur grandmabeast, we all know u would trade her for a dopa game review any day!!!
Bruh can we get this guy for 500k please
Saw this randomly in a norms game and was like "Ok, chilling." And I proceeded to get annhiliated for 10 minutes 😅
plot twitst : the inter kayle is babus
This Cho is lucky there ain’t a ap varus on the enemy team
He wasn't even tanky
Like, i mean he was kinda tanky but that's only hp, no resistances and he could have twice this hp if he went tank items
cho gaths all fun untill they pick vayne on u :cries:
I wonder wat middlebeans will do once he reaches 500k
graves and sylas with the most egregious builds
homie ur noise gate is too high, lots of mic cutting out
4:15 Prehistoric Cho'Gath
Baus does play ap cho top, I wish he would more often tho
Unsubscribed just to subscribe again twice, Intermediate Monster! Keep up the good work. Hopefully your nan will finally be proud!