Hi mate new to the channel I have been looking at humidifiers and came across your review on the drybot funnily enough. I was looking at the black max but after researching the dry bot I think think this would suit me better. I was wondering how the data stacked up long term. Has it lasted the distance? Did the desiccant bed ever need replacement? Love to no more about how it went long term and if this was sponsored.
@@scorpia54 I ended up buying the DryBot I’m still waiting on delivery. The dry bot has desiccant the data that I could find showed it performed better in dehumidification over the black max. It also plugs into the oil filler which suited me better than the oil breather tube. There was concerns i had sticking the air supply tube up the breather so far as to go past the ice hole. I found others had concerns and had issues with the tube breaking off in the breather. The dry bot appeared to be a better design than the black max and the black max had setting up issues according to other users with getting the air supply right you could end up with moisture in the line and rather than dehumidify you could end up pumping moist air in. Admittedly this was just a set up issue and with tweaks could be resolved but my aircraft is not nearby and I needed an option out of the box. Only issue I had with the DryBot is that the desiccant does need replacing eventually depending on humidity levels could be 12 months 2 years or 5. This means it has to go back to manufacturer for repacking. I’m in Australia so a bit of a pain to ship back to America, However they did advise I could do it myself but would void the warranty. I figured the warranty would be expired by then so who no real issue. I suggested a modular design for the desiccant bed and they were going to look into it for future models. We may by then be able to get this done via a distributor they have just set up in Australia. The Dry bot seems to have better internal monitoring with updated firmware from the seller. So I think both are ok but all in all the DryBot came out in front simply because of the better data on pumping dry air and it is the primary reason for buying it.
Anyone try the "Black Max" dehumidifier? They used to be about $500. Now I see them in the $650 range.Worth it if it does the job well, especially since it's not just during the build. It's designed for everyday use. Just looked up the DryBot. $1200. I think I'll go with a Black Max. It would be great to see a comparison video. They both probably have about $100 in parts to manufacture them.
I would be interested to see what the humidity level actually is that comes out of the unit. For that you can run the air through a food container that has a small digital hygrometer in it. I have a competitor's model (which uses Peltier elements) that has already failed twice in 9 months, however it does keep the moisture below the lowest value, the hygrometer can display (< 10%). If this unit works well, I'd be switching over in a heartbeat.
@@BuildFlyGo yeah but if it’s pushing the dry air into the oil pan the only way I can see it going is the oil breather, dip stick or fill port. Maybe if there is a path to exhaust it might flow back to any cylinders sitting with an exhaust valve open. Maybe there isn’t an issue with moisture within the cylinders due to the preservation methods. I’m still very new to the process and am only now figuring out what I need to do to budget for a first build.
Great point! Honestly I don’t know. Oil pan is open to the case, which sees the backs of the pistons and cylinders. I suspect with sufficient pressure dry air will get everywhere but even just these areas already help immensely.
During the build, you can add desiccant plugs into the top spark plug holes to get moisture out of the volume above the piston. I have to replace the desiccant about every 3-4 months on two cylinders where the valves are open. Moist air is much lighter than dry air, so it will rise to the desiccant plugs.
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Good plan, Guill! I've been keeping dehumidifiers running in the hangars for similar reasons.
Hi mate new to the channel I have been looking at humidifiers and came across your review on the drybot funnily enough. I was looking at the black max but after researching the dry bot I think think this would suit me better. I was wondering how the data stacked up long term. Has it lasted the distance? Did the desiccant bed ever need replacement? Love to no more about how it went long term and if this was sponsored.
Marty, I'm also looking at both of these units. What made you pick the DryBot over the Black Max?
@@scorpia54 I ended up buying the DryBot I’m still waiting on delivery. The dry bot has desiccant the data that I could find showed it performed better in dehumidification over the black max. It also plugs into the oil filler which suited me better than the oil breather tube. There was concerns i had sticking the air supply tube up the breather so far as to go past the ice hole. I found others had concerns and had issues with the tube breaking off in the breather.
The dry bot appeared to be a better design than the black max and the black max had setting up issues according to other users with getting the air supply right you could end up with moisture in the line and rather than dehumidify you could end up pumping moist air in. Admittedly this was just a set up issue and with tweaks could be resolved but my aircraft is not nearby and I needed an option out of the box.
Only issue I had with the DryBot is that the desiccant does need replacing eventually depending on humidity levels could be 12 months 2 years or 5. This means it has to go back to manufacturer for repacking. I’m in Australia so a bit of a pain to ship back to America, However they did advise I could do it myself but would void the warranty. I figured the warranty would be expired by then so who no real issue. I suggested a modular design for the desiccant bed and they were going to look into it for future models. We may by then be able to get this done via a distributor they have just set up in Australia.
The Dry bot seems to have better internal monitoring with updated firmware from the seller.
So I think both are ok but all in all the DryBot came out in front simply because of the better data on pumping dry air and it is the primary reason for buying it.
Anyone try the "Black Max" dehumidifier? They used to be about $500. Now I see them in the $650 range.Worth it if it does the job well, especially since it's not just during the build. It's designed for everyday use. Just looked up the DryBot. $1200. I think I'll go with a Black Max. It would be great to see a comparison video. They both probably have about $100 in parts to manufacture them.
Hey Guill, are you guys effected on your RV-10 by Van's laser cut issues/financial difficulties?
We were lucky and all our parts are from before the LCP production.
I would be interested to see what the humidity level actually is that comes out of the unit. For that you can run the air through a food container that has a small digital hygrometer in it. I have a competitor's model (which uses Peltier elements) that has already failed twice in 9 months, however it does keep the moisture below the lowest value, the hygrometer can display (< 10%). If this unit works well, I'd be switching over in a heartbeat.
I picked up 4 temp/humidity sensors and another esp32. I’ll be data logging numerous spots starting next week when they show up.
Hot air holds more water than cold air. I wonder if that could be a failure mode somehow.
How does this address air within the intake/cylinder/exhaust path?
Once the exhaust is installed, my understanding is that air will be pushed out that direction.
@@BuildFlyGo yeah but if it’s pushing the dry air into the oil pan the only way I can see it going is the oil breather, dip stick or fill port. Maybe if there is a path to exhaust it might flow back to any cylinders sitting with an exhaust valve open. Maybe there isn’t an issue with moisture within the cylinders due to the preservation methods. I’m still very new to the process and am only now figuring out what I need to do to budget for a first build.
Great point! Honestly I don’t know. Oil pan is open to the case, which sees the backs of the pistons and cylinders. I suspect with sufficient pressure dry air will get everywhere but even just these areas already help immensely.
@@BuildFlyGo fair point. And please understand I’m asking out of ignorance. Not criticism. I’m about a year from pulling the trigger on a 10.
During the build, you can add desiccant plugs into the top spark plug holes to get moisture out of the volume above the piston. I have to replace the desiccant about every 3-4 months on two cylinders where the valves are open.
Moist air is much lighter than dry air, so it will rise to the desiccant plugs.