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- 2024 Yamaha MT-09 and MT-09 SP | KNOX first look review
One of the very best middleweight naked motorcycles available is back and hitting harder than ever, the Yamaha MT09 and MT09SP.
With a market leading engine platform in the CP3 triple, the MT09 now looks to finish the puzzle with a revised and more aggresive riding position, better dash and in the SP version, some incredibly important updates in the braking system. With the option on the SP model now to remove the rear ABS, it seems that Yamaha may be well on the way to fixing their brake system gremlins which is about the only thing that stops them from taking the middleweight naked crown.
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Bit of an update as I feel like we didn't quite understand this at the time of shooting, but the SP model now has an extra mode for the ABS, which should diable rear ABS. If this works as it should, this feature should elevate the MT09SP to a whole other level in our opinion. 😆
Hopefully we'll see this start to be applied to other Yamaha models in future such as the MT10, R1 etc. Thanks, Aaron Knox
What strikes me as funny... In 2012 I bought a gsxr 1000 L2 because of Simon Crafar's motovudu video (EPIC go watch ) highlighting that electronic riders aids are not always a good thing... while others lauded their use on bikes. Nowadays we complain if we cannot turn off rider aids lol. I think rider aids are a step forward but quickshifters on road bikes? how is saving a second on your trip to tescos going to benefit you? 😄
@@davidgray8863quickshifter it's Just pure fun...if you try It you never come back
@KnoxArmour Was the problem you found with the intrusiveness of the older MT-09 SP's ABS related to the rear brake? I was under the impression that it was the front brake's ABS that intervened too soon, not so much the rear...
@@pedronogueira8148 I have the exact same question...
@@pedronogueira8148 The switchable rear ABS of this new model will obviously have nothing to do with the sensitivity of the front ABS - these guys have no clue what they're talking about.
Most of these updates are what I want in the MT-10. If that next generation is close to this, I'm all in.
100% agree with you. Aaron KNOX
The new mt10 just came out last year
They need to do all of this to the MT07 as well.
I stuck with my gen 1 MT-07 since 2016 which I had custom painted. Now I think it's time to move on to the MT-09 SP as it is equipped with all the latest tech and brembo stylema brakes for the first time.
I like the new look of the next generation MT-09 from the moment Yamaha unveiled it. The front with the new lights looks cool and the overall lines flow well with the rest of the design.
Having sat on it and seeing it in person at Motorcycle Live, it does feel really good.
CP2 engine was great fun and sounds amazing, but it's time for a new beginning.
I’m confident you won’t regret upgrading to the new 2024 SP (also my next bike) 😃👍🔥🏁
Go for it I am thinking about getting one also
I'm not sure if SP is worth 2k more euro
Bravo for speaking for the ABS feel problem. I found the same in my Tracer 900
stop talking over each other plz
Completely agree, very very annoying.
They’re bromancing hard!
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@@nickgt91 LOL 😂😂😂😂
Love the look, but love how upright the gen 3 mt09 is. Not sure my back could handle the new angle!
Agree. I’m 54 and 6ft tall so I love the ergonomics of my 2023, Perfect bike!
Funny thing is I'm on the flip side from you, I'm excited that they made the ergos a touch more sporty for better front end feel. I'm not really a fan of being a wind sail on a naked bike.
Just SAD that ALL THE UNIQUE SELLING POINTS of the MT-09 got eliminated. In 2023, it was the last upright naked bike that people over 1.85 m (6.1feet) could still right comfortably on, that didn't look like an insect but like a Transformer and that still had a subframe/pillion footrests with luggage attachment points, as well as the option of fitting a windshield.
I like every of the other Transformer light masks in the MT series better than this new one. For the GEN 3 to 2023, Givi and Shad had hard case mounts for larger cases, than on a standard GS in their linup and you could attach a large windscreen to the light mask. The subframe load capacity has been removed from the MT-10 from 2021 to 2022 and now from 2023 to 2024 for the MT-09 as well. It's a pity that none of the reviews mention this.
If the display becomes so large that it protrudes forward over the light mask, you can no longer retrofit a windscreen. Who convinced the manufacturers that naked bikes have to be made for the racetrack? I've been riding an MT-09 for 30,000 kilometres in 2.5 years and love this engine.
With in the commuteabilty gone, the last real UJM is unfortunately dying in my eyes.
Well said
I know the S1000R has slightly more HP and torque, but I couldn't justify and extra 10k for that bike over something like the MT09 SP.
S1000r is way more powerful, i think you are confusing this with the mt10 which is the direct competitor to s1000r. This my09 is completely different
Cant wait for when someone tells me to move on because 'filming'
Itll end up on youtube for sure
I would tell Them to go +€uk themselfs. I dont give a dime about anyone filming. Paid the same as me so bugger off
To be fair, this particular video was shot on a press only day dedicated to press and filming...
I have the current gen SP. The riding position was always a bit odd for me, the bars are to high. The front had grip, but the feeling was vague. Just installed some Gilles risers which bring them 24mm lower and a bit further forward (fully adjustable in all directions). It is a subtle but noteable difference. The new felt better, but the reach felt shorter for me. The bars are angled towards you more. The new dash is really nice, but the novelty would wear off after a while. And of course, those Stylemas. Lovely brakes, but the standard setup can be improved with a set of better pads, although still not amazing.
Ordered it and can’t wait
Enjoy!
No. You didn’t.
You don’t have to reply if you don’t want to but how much out the door for a s p m 09 because I’m thinking about getting one myself. I just don’t trust dealers for not taking care of the customers in the right way.
@@ididntdoit7252 exactly MSRP. They comped detonation charges for me as a long time customer of 12 years. I’ve had a long time established relationship as a repeat buyer so I have never been concerned with being screwed over by them. Always get any deposits put down in writing the terms of the sale anywhere you go. I’ve bought 6 bikes from the same dealer over the years. Same process every time. By the time it shows up, my paperwork is completed, ready to go and I am out the door with the bike in less than an hour.
if they fixed the abs thing that removes feeling and brake power, I'm buying one again. Let us know when you guys test on out, please!
the sp is gorgeous
I’m going stock ‘24 I just can’t justify the SP cost for the riding that I do.
As the discount on the 2023 SP makes it THE direct rival to the new MT09... which is better? the lower more cramped sporty seating with slight tweaks a new dash and headlight... or the old bike with a more comfortable seating position and far superior suspension? definitely the ultimate comparison in March 2024.
3rd gen headlight looked animal. Now it just looks like it was made in a cheap garage.
Wasn't sold on the new looks but the SP paint scheme is reeaallly nice in this new styling. Also prefer the "street fighter" riding position vs fully upright for a naked bike. Obviously Yamaha isn't interested in making a 120hp motard anymore. This looks like a sport naked. Also looks like my next weekend bike...
Love the new looks (and I never disliked the last gen either). Sick of the whiners though! Is it my imagination or have Yamaha made their blue more purple this year?! 🤔
Needs a red white paint job, then it would be top of my list
ugly colors
Does the new 2024 mt 09 fit well for a 1.83 cm tall?
Yamaha MT09 perfect in Icon Blue only🙏☝️😎
If I'm not wrong traction control (and maybe even abs?) should be performance wise same as R1 (which they are saying they based it on). That said, I can see it regularly on the track - brakes and abs itself is for the slower riders (most of us) rarely the issue. Much bigger issue is right timing to use them. With that, even with my old ABS FZ8 i can easily takeover many modern bikes on the brakes.
Gen 3 SP or Gen 4 base? What do you pick?
I like the flopsville mount
The last gen looked like an evolution from the first gen, this gen however looks like an evolution of the second gen.
As an owner of a gen 2 mt09 and having changed all the breaking hardwear and done nothing to the ABS. I can tell you it ABSOLUTLY matters.. Anyone stating differently havent ridden an 09 with better hardwear.
And to be fair, when we tested Olly's R1 last year with a full Hel braking system, it was really very good! But I think the point is that the stock braking system would be significantly better with a better developed ABS. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
I don't know much about mt series but i know a lot about r series
best looking R series R7
most loved R series R6
the big daddy R1
really want to see the r9 soon (hopefully)
The hob on the cooker is the the thing you put your pot on. You guys really don't know the difference between a hob and a knob?
I love kTm😁.
I do too. If this rides better than the Duke 890 buy it. But I really can't believe it would.
Sorry but I’m falling in love with this mt 09 sp .
So the Switchgear is off what? At 3:15 you go to say then other guy talks over what you are about to say.
Just wow ❤❤❤❤❤ mt 09sp
Lol I wear the exact same pumas in. Size. 11 and my heel hit me exhaust on my s1kr.
I also agree with that whole duct tape nonsense on the previous gen it looked soo cheap. Also that cooker hop keyless thing loool I thought the same thing
I want the MT 09 SP but it'll probably be hard to get a dealer to sell one here without their bullshit mark up fees.
Get the new 2023 MT09SP for a decent deal discount without any markup
I’m wondering if it’s cheaper to do the SP upgrades on the regular MT 09 yourself than to get the SP with them already on it?
Cost you way way more, plus you can't upgrade the electronics unless you are an absolute software wiz! And the paint is way better on the sp
@@Dtp2296good point
I find it’s so difficult to own one of these wit the salary I make 😅 but it’s my dream to own one, I will one day!
Don't know if that was your first review together, but you sounded like amatures. Maybe practice off camera some more?
Yamahuh finally figuring out that naked bike TA likes to be IN the bike not ON it after 4 iterations... shocker.
HERP DERP.
I’ve never understood why they put ohlins on the rear and KYB upfront, go full ohlins or full KYB…
To keep cost down as ohlins forks are expensive
@@rpc4266so how much will it cost to add ohlina on the front?
Not sure what the Two 02 sensors are about, compared to the one on the previous bike?
Euro 5 now
3rd gen is euro5 @@melloman5517
Nice look super..
KYB front ohlins back…
That keyless is stupid. Why didn't they look at bmw for a lot of things. The dash is still too small.
Dash is hardly looked at, you're looking at the road, right?
I use the dash, that's why it's there. Look at CF-Moto. Some of their bikes have an ipad mini as a dash
@jackmavro3671 you are riding too slow if you are looking at your dash all the time.
Black rims would be better the blue rims make it look cheap
Powder coat them gold to match forks that's my plan
is the bike better then the mt 10? cant choose
Personal choice. The MT10 is on another level again in my opinion, but then again it is a Super Naked and more expensive. th-cam.com/video/9Hv8NtBunrw/w-d-xo.htmlfeature=shared. Aaron KNOX
Get a 10 if you can't choose, I've got both and think they're both great, but the 10 is just more desirable, 9 might be better if you're not that tall as the 10's fairly big
Get the mt10, and enjoy spending time at the gas station. You will also enjoy the really high insurance premiums!😅😂
Insurance for me was about $40 a year more than an MT09SP, the MT10 has bigger tank so you get about the same milage out of a tank on a 2022 MT10, if you're worried about gas and insurance get an MT07!
Mt10 is a far better bike
Go and test ride one or just ask to sit on them to compare
looks like they built it for Japanese legs. Cant imagine to be comfortable with such knee angle for more than 30 minutes
4:44 "obviously ohlins front and back"...
Obviously not.
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Did he say his feet were ferver back ?
Yes, a bit higher and further back than the previous model. Just feels a bit more sporty. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
They just can't resist making the headlight look uglier and uglier for each new model LOL
Totally destroyed the look. Now it's got the generic ktm/honda naked look...
Looks absolutely fabulous
Totally, the 2023 version looks sleek 💃🏻 and erogenous ❤ from all sides
Love the bike. BUT that plastic around the petrol cap is a fucking joke. Whats wrong with these company's they always designe an amazing bike but just cant help ruin it with a bit of cheap shit plastic somewhere every time
I don't think 900cc is middle weight engine lol
Well its definitely creeping up isn't it! Aaron KNOX
Power wise and actual weight it is middle weight
Yamaha really need to figure out what to do with this ugly as sin exhaust. A fucking aluminum shaped slug type device seated under the bike with zero paint, finish, heat deflectors etc is poor craftsmanship especially when so visible.
I know mostly people swap exhaust anyways right from the get go, (I didn't ever having a 2017 FZ for 6 years) but boy has the exhaust only gotten uglier and uglier.
Ese escape , parece un hemorroide, que horrible
A bit rude
Omfg ... Keyless for sport street bike? Ru kidding me? For scooters perhaps ! But ... Yow i'm about to lose it with all this technologie nonsense ...
How is it nonsense. Don't have to mess about with your key. All my cars have it and i would never trade back. You never have to think about it. Especially on a bike with gloves and cold weather, makes so much sense
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wth is yamaha doing with the headlight? so ugly...
Who does the colour coordination for these bikes. Nothing seems to go together. Those greenish wheels are horrible. The sp has a white and black tank. Gold front forks and blue wheels. The person in charge of aesthetics is definitely colour blind 😮😅
Damn those ugly headlights