Real Doctor Reacts to Roman Medicine
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2024
- In this episode of the Toldinstone Podcast, Dr. Athalia Pyzer and I discuss whether Roman and modern medicine have anything in common.
Check out my other channels, @toldinstone and @scenicroutestothepast
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:48 Leeches and maggots
3:51 Schools of (mal)practice
7:00 Hippocratic oaths
10:13 Diet and exercise
11:46 Causes of disease
14:10 Standing on eels
16:42 The efficacy of dunking in pools
18:05 Willow bark and myrrh
20:12 Opium
22:01 Iron and beeswax in pills
24:29 Closing wounds with honey, etc.
27:15 The benefits of urine
28:52 Surgical woes
32:30 Does ancient medicine still matter?
Congratulations! I wish you a long and happy marriage. 💒
It's always fabulous when a couple can laugh together over ancient medical torture. I envy you.
They probably recorded in the same house just different rooms lol
This is the happiest we've seen Ryan
Urine can actually be used to diminish the pain of some forms of stings without issue of infection. From the 1930s-60s human urine from female patients could be injected into rabbits to determine if the woman was pregnant and until quite recently physicians would not only visually examine patients' urine in a bespoke "Urine Flask", but they would also even taste it at times to come to a diagnosis. Diabetes, for example, causes urine to become "sweet" as a result of the excess glucose. The Urea present was also used for many forms of "bleaching"/whitening, as well, including clothes, hair and teeth. Many tanneries and textile mills relied on urine collection for their urea, as well.
You, sir, have an uncanny knowledge of urine.
Congratulations and Happy New Year to Garrett and Athalia. Garrett found a woman that also thinks about Rome (and a M.D.), a lucky man indeed.
Congratulations professor! My best wishes for you in this 2024.
Congrats to you both! Wonderful podcast as always, thank you :)
Your fiance has a British accent! Now I know who to thank for your delightfully dry, sarcastistic sense of humour
Congratulations on your engagement! What happy news. 💖
This subject is very interesting, and I learned a lot. In my past life I was married to a brilliant computer programmer who had a strong interest in mind expansion (psychedelics) and some very interesting friends. Some of them were actual doctors and professors. One couple were eccentric British aristocrats who had reportedly tried trepanning on themselves.
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Many surgical techniques pioneered by the Ancients are still used today, especially with regards to trauma/reconstructive surgery. "Forehead flaps" to repair damage to the nose, for example, is still used to this day, as are many other basic procedures. Several famous Kings/Generals were saved via surgical intervention over the years. Most famously being Henry V who had an arrow removed from the base of his skull and survived.
In 1970s Navy first aid training still offered urine as a suitable substitute for sterile fluids when applying battle dressing to abdominal wounds where the "guts" were exposed. It was claimed that urine was purified by the kidneys and would keep the dry bandages from sticking to the internal part of the abdomen.
Lifeguards were using it till recently, too.
Interesting and delightful episode! You two are a cute couple, and both very insightful too! I just got your new book for Christmas Dr. Ryan. I haven’t read it fully yet. But I can tell it’s a fantastic read. Just like your last book I can already tell!! Great job on that Sir! Wouldn’t mind another episode with the two of you. She had some great insights. God bless you both and happy new years!!! You’re the best! Sincerely-Justin
Beautiful, intelligent and British, well played Garrett…well played
instructions unclear, applied eels to my whole body
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It's been 2 months, are you still eel or have you recovered?
Congrats Garrett! Love your channel ❤
Very pleased to hear it!
Not many Roman history fans can say their social skills match their love of Aurelian lol
Bears, here in the US will seek out willow trees to chew the bark, which contains salicylic acid, which we then convert to acetyl-salicylic acid to create "asprin". Myrrh has been used in religious ceremonies from deepest antiquity and was also associated with various forms of "purification" and "pharmakon" practices. Iron and Zinc are both vital Co-enzymes for many biological processes, as well.
Best form of react content I ever saw, great video.
Wonderful content as always, congrats on your new life together
0:55 well the term "Humoral" is still employed in modern
medicine to describe the extra-cellular (innate) B cell driven
immune response Vs the (Adaptive) T cell driven cellular
immune response...effectively the antibodies and anti-microbial
peptides of the humoral innate immune system operate in the fluids of the body.
With regards to Rabbies treatment, active, even hostile, water aversion and profuse sweating is a very common symptom in humans and animals who have been infected, which is why forcibly submerging people may have been used. It's also a devastating disease with a 100% fatality rate, without proper treatment, so you can see why people would be desperate to try anything. Packs of wild, infected dogs roaming the streets probably didn't help things much either. Thanks for all the great vids. Happy New Year & Congratulations on your Engagement!
Congratulations! Very happy for you both!🎉
Great crossover. Congrats btw to both of you! Keep on truckin on. People desire real education
"Fish Glue" is still used in fine instrument building and Egg Whites contain the protein albumin, which has also been used in various "glues" over the years, as well. They wouldn't be strong enough to close a wound, but they may be able to seal it off from the external environment and infection.
The Hellenistic system of Galen and Hippocrates is still practiced with success by Islamic physicians in what is called the "Unnani" system of medicine. It is promoted in India by the government as one of the indigenous medical systems along with Ayurveda and others.
Congratulations and happy New Year Garrett!!!
This is very sweet and very funny, a great combination and conversation.
Really great podcast, delightful guest.
Super interesting topic, great video!
You guys are adorable! Congratulations and Happy New Year
This is just the best, what a fun video!
my grandmother (born 1907) always told me, that they had woodworkers at their farm who would urinate on cuts as a way to clean and disinfect them. She never suggested I should to that, but it certainly was done way into modern times.
Congrats! 🎉 🍾
Congratulations to you both!
Way to go Garrett. Got you lady doctor ❤
What a beautiful couple! Such an interesting and delightful episode :)
I live with a Samoan family when I was 5 , the matriarch, fancying herself a healer , raised leaches in the living room
Congrats, what a power couple!
Interesting video!
congratulations!!
My dad had maggots put in his wound when he was injured in WW2.
Interesting to note that you echo your fiance's habit of ending sentences with "you know," a practice of which you are not otherwise prone.
Bro is livin the life.
Would love to know more about the ancient pills. Love your videos and congratulations!!!
congrats 🎉❤
Congratulations!
I've always understood that Roman doctors, even if they didn't know exactly what they were doing, weren't too terrible at treating wounds. You know, battlefield medicine. Besides honey and wine they would have used vinegar to clean out wounds which I haven't heard mentioned in this video. Romans loved their vinegar and used it for almost everything. They would have also known how to set not too complicated fractures of arms and legs, and fix dislocated shoulders and such. Any serious internal disease like cancer, they really had no idea how to deal with those. But they did recognise the symptoms of many illnesses and diseases.
Wonderful news .Two lively intellects will ensure your partnership will never be boring!
New year new me first!
YAY! She's cute! And brainy! I am excited for you. Congratulations.
a widely travelled man. thanx 4 sharing. 2HNY4
So, the prometheus story, with the liver eating eagle and the liver growing back giving an obvious hint on the organs ability to regenerate. How can people of the past could have known that?
i love how 'the humours' practice TRANSMOPHED thru the medieval era & was still 'a thing.' primarilly in how they timed what they ate, hot cold ideas, things like that. maggot debridement is FASCINATING! i love that she mentioned this. omg, congrats on y'alls future, big big reason for celebrating. does she think there could have been ANY validity to the 'gladiator rag' cure for headaches?? i'm sure those things were pricey, i'm tyrying to figure out if amino acids absorbed into skin or how just exactly this worked; if people paid for these things they must have thought so . . .
Such a cool couple!
I was bitten by a bat once and had to get a rabies vaccination. I was relieved to find out that the 21 shots in stomach thing is an urban myth (now I'm curious where this came from), but it is still quite a lot of shots. I really don't recommend it, don't pick up stray bats - call a vet! But it sure beats being dunked or deceased, and I'm very grateful to live this day and age.
Eels could not shock patients. Electric eels are South American and would be unknown in the Roman world. The fish in question is rather the torpedo, an electric ray.
You are charming together. ☺
14:35 I believe you are confusing the elecric eel with the electric ray aka torpedo, as electric eels are native to South America and would not have been available to the ancients, whereas electric rays were known to and described by them.
May god bless your union
You're a lucky man, Garrett 😊
Doctor, my foot hurts
Well, Achilles...
This was fascinating. Although urinating on you feet in the shower seems to eliminate athletes foot.
Congratulations on your nuptials, and may God Bless you both.
Come back soon, sweet ending.
Oh beautiful and smart, lucky man the best to you two
Nice :)
The funniest thing is that you guys talk over zoom call if you are fiances
Where is antiseptic & anti bacterial. It also contains many of the same chemicals as synthetic pain relievers. So too frankincense. Hence why it was and still is melted down & mixed with honey. Another antibacterial; to be used as a poultice and even in oil form.
It's also anti inflammatory. Hence why it's used to treat arthritis.
What is a mogot ?
Maggots are the larvae of flies. Only a specific kind of maggot is used in removing dead tissue from wounds.
She's so pretty, congrats Ryan and Athalia!
More importantly, she's smart and interesting!
i almost bought a set of Roman surgical instruments for 2k.
nice bro she good
"Athalia". So very English and yet so very Roman.
Same as it always was I guess
Congratulations with such an interesting and pretty fiance :)
You guys are too cute together
You out kicked your coverage with this lady. Good luck.
"Pyzer" lol, sorry but that is hilarious
I don’t get it
@@youtubin86 Pfizer, Pyzer. Probably just funny to me
good catch. she does have a schnozz.
Show off!🤣
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Lovely couple! Interesting interpretation that the development of the speculum was neglected the last 2000 years because of men not valueing women. As the speculum is an accomplished and effective gynecolological tool, I would rather say it was already perfected in rome and that women's health issues were not frowned upon back then, as child birth was very important especially for elites, and it's hard imagining heterosexual men showing indifference to vaginal health even if it is out of sheer egoism. Also of note is that the anoscope (for anal examination) still looks the same as back then.
Yeah that was a bit of yikes doublethink on her part.
@@farmerboy916doublethink?…
@@farmerboy916 Britain is already in terminal decline so if that's the worst of it he found a shining gem, it's gonna get harder and harder to find native English speakers not exposed to the strain.
cuties
It's really quite obvious you two like each other... a lot. Have you thought about hanging out in real life?
What makes you think this is a real doctor !
So basically anyone can be a "doctor" these days...
God knows you can’t.
@@elia8544 Have I upset you with my comment?
@@aut0turret Womp womp
@@elia8544 Of course that's all you have to say. That's all you have the ability to say, just pure nonsense.
@@aut0turret You should go to medical school and prove us all wrong!
Happy new year