Stock vs Bond Allocation by Age -- How it should change as you get closer to retirement

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  • @Ben-yw8be
    @Ben-yw8be 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    The trick I do when buying target retirement fund is that I add an additional 5-10 years to the fund so that it will not be too conservative. If you read the “Fund Strategy of the fund, it will show you what the allocation is once you enter retirement. If you want to retire in 2050, I would buy a 2060 fund because the fund says it will adjust the allocation 10 years out to a 60/40 portfolio. It just depends on each fund. Just read the “Fund Strategy” to hone in on your investing strategy.

  • @tommut
    @tommut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Loved the behind-the-scenes of your filming set up. Very cool! It's evident you put a lot of work into ensuring your videos are of high quality.

  • @nicstevens6499
    @nicstevens6499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info! I really enjoy your videos and guidance. Keep up the great work!

  • @ramansharma8585
    @ramansharma8585 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You you are the best I have been listening to since last few days!! 👍

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @rs4425
    @rs4425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So right about the Target Date Funds. My 2015 fund allocation was below even my low risk tolerance. I followed Robs video and rebalanced using a 2 fund portfolio. Now I have the allocation I'm comfortable with. Thank you Rob for the help.

  • @shvideo1
    @shvideo1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very valuable advice. You are a gem. Thank you.

  • @gilbrook
    @gilbrook 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice setup. Nice delivery. ThankU!

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @okrajoe
    @okrajoe ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A lot depends on how much of a safety net you have. Is the house paid off? Is there an inheritance at some point? Do you have a job where you can go back to work if needed? etc.

  • @jmcm152
    @jmcm152 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good stuff, subscribed

  • @bluhaven8686
    @bluhaven8686 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just subscribed to your channel and I really enjoy your videos. As a new investor, I learned alot so far and I will continue to watch your other videos. Thanks for all your hard work.

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @kerstinlampert7337
    @kerstinlampert7337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Helpful info! Thank you!

  • @joevelasquez2757
    @joevelasquez2757 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great content Rob 👍. Great to follow someone I can relate to.

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @johnathonlivingston7573
    @johnathonlivingston7573 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is such great information. Thank you.

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @victorbennett5414
    @victorbennett5414 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Extremely helpful info. Thanks!

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @mitraism1
    @mitraism1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you 🙏 for sharing behind the scenes! Learned something new today! And love your comment "mice or mouse 😅"

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @AkAk-lr6vo
    @AkAk-lr6vo 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed your video… very informative!!

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @sara7mk
    @sara7mk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful video. Thank you!

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @user-lh2xn5iy2p
    @user-lh2xn5iy2p 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are really helping me out here thank you. I feel like you are my personnal teacher about things that should have been taught at school. As a canadian I personnaly can't do everything as is, but it does help a lot. Luckily there is some tsx listed "wrappers" I can use to create a portfolio that makes sense.

  • @gastonsanchez6154
    @gastonsanchez6154 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Rob: thank you for sharing your desk setup with your monitors, lights, mic, console, keyboards, etc. And of course thank you for sharing your amazing videos full of good info and actionable tips.

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @flyingdoctor22
    @flyingdoctor22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks Rob. That was a great insight into stock & Bond allocation. I am 20 years away from retirement and currently at 85:15. Thanks also for sharing behind the scene set up as I was curious to know how you manage it. Thanks a lot for educating us! Keep safe and take care

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @geraldineb.9204
    @geraldineb.9204 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am a believer of high risk investing to only big reputable companies, that have existed and have increased their dividends since late of 1800s. I think those big financial institutions wants us to invest in bonds, because they are actually using our money to invest in high risk stocks with higher returns for themselves . Just my thoughts. Thanks for sharing Rob. New subscriber from Canada

  • @jeffcecchini3588
    @jeffcecchini3588 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Rob Berger I've been enjoying your videos and learning a lot from them. Thank you! You are a very gifted teacher making a difference in many lives. Got a question: is the emergency fund bank account included in the the allocation? How does cash factor in? Also, what percentage of cash should we keep in the investment accounts for opportunistic buying given the present market?

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @matthewharrigan3568
    @matthewharrigan3568 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    What are your thoughts on the type of bonds to hold? Short, intermediate, or long, treasury tips, or corporate, and in what percentage? I've been learning that long term treasuries might be the best for smoothing volatility because they are volatile and negatively correlated with stocks

    • @vanguardvaluist2614
      @vanguardvaluist2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Get and index bond fund and be done with it. VBTLX for example.

  • @marierie888
    @marierie888 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I tried to comprehend this the way you delivered it and couldn't.

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @markmorris2517
    @markmorris2517 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great stuff Rob and I'm on the same page with you based on research about target funds during retirement being too allocated in bonds.
    So given the 4% rule recommendation in retirement of 50-75% stocks, why not use the vanguard stock/bond allocation information to pick your target bond allocation for retirement (based on risk tolerance within 50-75% bonds) and then add to that how many years you have left until retirement for your current stock/bond allocation? It would follow your approach of tailoring to the specific situation of the investor, maximizing the additional growth years, while also ensuring they arrive at their desired allocation goal at retirement.

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @christasmith593
    @christasmith593 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have been on Personal Capital for some time and never used that Investment Checkup link. It was enlightening...although I knew it would tell me I’m too aggressive in my portfolio, seeing the percentages made me finally do something I’ve been meaning to do. I now have more than 0.9% International stocks and some TIPS to boot in my 401k!

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @auricgoldfinger8478
    @auricgoldfinger8478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just rewatched this video after a month or so. The first time through, I let my bias interfere with content absorption. Great analysis of asset allocation. Our personal allocations parallel- I’m 80/20 now, with 15% of equities individual stock holdings (about 20). At 65, I don’t rebalance however

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @auricgoldfinger8478
    @auricgoldfinger8478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great talk. I’m 65, 6 years into retirement. I was 90/10 until I retired and inherited a large bond ladder.. It took me to 80/20, which I will let ride- no more re-allocations. I should drift back toward 90/10 before I exit. Or stocks will hugely underperform and I will go to 75/25. It’s irrelevant

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @MrMaxamillion67
    @MrMaxamillion67 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Rob. I am all in with vanguard except for some money that I have invested in Canada. I have my 401K and a Traditional and Roth IRA, they are managing my accounts and have me in a 70% stock 30% bond portfolio. I agree with you the target date fund is too conservative. I am 54 years old and when I retire I think a 65% stock and 35% bond portfolio should be conservative enough.

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @BY-ix9ye
    @BY-ix9ye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. I am 30+ years from retiring, so I was wondering if I should follow the 3 funds portfolio (50-30-20) 90-10. This video gave me the answers. Also enjoyed your behind scene setup!

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @robertguthrie4113
    @robertguthrie4113 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree in this video when he talked about vanguard growth category my portfolio is 95/5 portfolio at age of 35

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  • @tphillips777
    @tphillips777 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wonder what your thoughts are about this for 2023?

  • @paulavaden5139
    @paulavaden5139 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Watching for the second time. We went with a financial planner fifteen years ago-we were 50. Didn't know squat but have been learning alot past year. We've been in 60/40 from the get go. Vaguely remember talking through the whole risk averse/tolerance thing with him. But heck!? If I knew then what I know now?......would have definitely gotten into 70/30 at least. ugh. $$ lost I believe. Now wonder if we should change the allocation or stay put? We have new cash from commercial real estate sale and venturing on our own!

    • @jackykuk4436
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    • @TWILLIE639
      @TWILLIE639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My situation is similar except I’m widowed. There is no more money coming in. I’m changing my allocation from 50/50 whether Vanguard likes it or not - I don’t think bonds are going to serve me well.

  • @user-gs8ee7ru5i
    @user-gs8ee7ru5i ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Rob, I've enjoyed your videos and have learned a ton from them. Question:. When you pay a financial advisor their fee of say 1 percent to manage a mutual fund, do you also generally pay the expense ratio? Thanks

    • @jrlvnv508
      @jrlvnv508 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you do. Some managers can avoid a front or back loaded fee but never heard of not paying the management fee

  • @eduardogarza6306
    @eduardogarza6306 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    @Rob Berger - can social security replace the bond portion of my retirement portfolio?

  • @ebrahimhabib477
    @ebrahimhabib477 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You right rob
    Target retirement fund it’s preset and don’t know what current economic environment

    • @jackykuk4436
      @jackykuk4436 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @davidk6498
    @davidk6498 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rob if one is following a bucket stradegy with say couple years living expenses along with a pension can someone be more aggresive even if there 5 years from retirement any thoughts?

    • @bigtoeknee11
      @bigtoeknee11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm a few years away from retirement but in a similar situation. Will have a good pension and a couple years cash so that is my bond fund. For my portfolios I'm gonna stay aggressive longer and convert as much as I can before taking SS.

  • @james1000
    @james1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rising equity glide path?

  • @happytravels2480
    @happytravels2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis. I generally like target date funds. I use them in some of my set and forget accounts, but I like to do the allocation adjustment myself. I like to rebalance my portfolio based on the market environment. For example, the market is at all time highs and extremely overvalued by several metrics right now. I have 20 years left and I’ve chosen to rebalance to 70/30 vs 80/20 for the time being. A target date fund only goes on time horizon and doesn’t factor in anything else.

    • @urbanart7325
      @urbanart7325 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can always change the target date fund for greater stock allocation

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh so you are a market timer. Best of luck.

    • @happytravels2480
      @happytravels2480 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidEVogel I definitely try to avoid market timing as I know that’s a fools errand. However, I’m also a realist. It’s hard to ignore the Schiller P/E and Buffett indicators, signaling extreme overvaluation. Tie that in with all the tell tale signs of a bubble(cheap credit, increasing debt, euphoric sentiment towards the market, crypto hype, meme stocks, inflation, insane housing market, the fed printing money with reckless abandon, 18 year old day traders using the casino robinhood app, etc, etc). I’ll never advise trying to time the market, but from what I’m seeing, and having lived through past crashes, it’s definitely time to rebalance and be cautious. This feels a lot like the 2000 dot com era to me, and as you sarcastically pointed out, I could be completely wrong about my outlook. Keep on buying your overpriced mutual funds….diamond hands….stocks to the moon🚀🚀🚀🚀….best of luck with that🙄

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@happytravels2480 ...and I could be completely wrong about MY outlook.

  • @robertbarry1792
    @robertbarry1792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think of NUSI which is based on puts and calls paying over 7%? Is it considerd a bond equivalent?

    • @jackykuk4436
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  • @kylel8954
    @kylel8954 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any thoughts on the M1 finance target date funds since they have conservative/moderate/aggressive options for each year?

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  • @alfredoarenas8616
    @alfredoarenas8616 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What do you think about investing in a Gold ETF? I am looking at the SPDR Gold Shares - GLD . I think it may be a good fund to have in my portfolio together with stocks and bonds but I hear that taxes you pay on Gold earnings are higher. What do you think?

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  • @rchandrasekaran7988
    @rchandrasekaran7988 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @Rob Berger: Why is the total amount of the holdings not a factor in these calculations of 60/40 etc? A very rich person perhaps can be more aggressive than a middle class person.

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  • @user-pl4eu5jc5w
    @user-pl4eu5jc5w 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would not own Wells Fargo anymore because of what they did to their employees and customers.

    • @geoffgordon9569
      @geoffgordon9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. Cost my Grandma 65% downfall because of fund churning to get commission.

  • @NK-kw3zj
    @NK-kw3zj ปีที่แล้ว

    Good morning, would you consider Wellesley (VWIAX) a bond asset class, what about REIT's? I am 61, husband 67, both still working, hoping to retire in 4 years. Trying to get my asset class allocations in order. As of now between our 2-401k's and 1- HSA, we have 58% stock 10%REIT 20% bond &16% target funds. Thank you, I am learning a lot from your channel, and loved your book easy to read and under stand. Planning to give to my kids, trying to instill some of the financial wisdom I did't get growing up. (I put VWIAX in bond)

    • @micas4048
      @micas4048 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I use Wellesley as my bond holding and to get some Large cap value in my portfolio, then I add a stock fund to round out the equity portion. If you wanted a 70/30 portfolio you could do 50% Wellesley and 50% VTSAX for example.

  • @bridgecross
    @bridgecross 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my situation (12 years from retirement, still contributing to retirement funds) I don't mind the volatility. In fact I relish it.

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  • @someparts
    @someparts 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about when cash funds like SPAXX are returning 5% and PE is 31?

  • @lw9936
    @lw9936 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Rob do you like Personal Capital Wealth Management Investment strategies? for an example 70/30 portfolio: in 70% of equity only holds on about 70 stocks, Is that risky?

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since I manage our own investments, I don't use their wealth management services. I just use their free financial dashboard. In terms of a 70/30 portfolio, I think that's a reasonable approach for a long-term investor. It's not the only approach, but within what i believe to be reasonable. Is it risky? Well if by risk you mean can it lose money in the short-term, absolutely it can.

  • @Falconlibrary
    @Falconlibrary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I moved from stocks into bonds and took a big hit on performance this past year (down 6% total). If I'd stuck with stocks, I'd have gotten a 28+% return. I know stocks are riskier but I need to keep up with inflation.

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  • @paulfiedler9128
    @paulfiedler9128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What if you are 64 and just started investing 3 years ago and really need dividend income? I guess it's hard to avoid risk. Are there any high-yield Vanguard or Fidelity bonds you would recommend that do not insist on a $3,000 minimum investment? I am a new subscriber and enjoy your approach. Thank you.

    • @berg8970
      @berg8970 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can buy similar ETFs in place of index funds to get around the $3,000 minimum investment requirement, an example would be Vanguard index fund VTSAX to its like ETF VTI. The only difference between them besides price is with index funds once you meet the minimum $3,000 investment you can add whatever amount thereafter $20, $50, $300 it's up to you, whereas with ETF's you have to pay the prevailing price of the ETF on the day of purchase should you want to add more shares. Ron has a great video regarding dividends and why you may not want to go that route.

    • @geoffgordon9569
      @geoffgordon9569 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can invest with Fidelity with $1. There are many Bond funds to choose from.

  • @donnyrosart8714
    @donnyrosart8714 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Vanguard portfolio returns--the income portfolios only go as high as 30 percent dividend stocks. But each ten percent increase in stocks, starting from zero, looks to be giving about a .5 percent increase in returns--at 100 percent of whatever dividend portfolio they were using, that should put it at 11 percent average annual return, well above the 100 percent growth stock annual return. It also looks like the income portfolio's worst year increases at a rate of 2 percent of portfolio per 10 percent increase in dividend stocks-that would put worst year around -28 percent versus -43.1 for the growth stocks.

  • @tonyreddy7535
    @tonyreddy7535 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I am very concerned about linking my investment accounts to a third party. So I use Morningstar portfolios to analyze potential allocations, etc. Also I realized my IRA account is way too complicated. I am going to convert to 3 fund portfolio you discussed in prior video with additional cluster of 15 or 20 Motley fool stocks representing 20% of total portfolio. Very impressed with your videos.

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I also use Morningstar portfolio for my mutual funds. Fast updates at the end of each trading day. And its free.

  • @bigtoeknee11
    @bigtoeknee11 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    When getting close to retirement would a Wellesley or Wellington Vanguard fund be a good move.

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great Question. I'll do a video covering this.

    • @AP-lt8fx
      @AP-lt8fx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tintinet between 1999 to 2019 Wellesley out preformed the Vanguard 60/40 balanced fund. Wellington beat both of them.

  • @jaredvasquez9216
    @jaredvasquez9216 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    In my situation I'm 40 years old and practically just starting out on my investing. I can only afford 150 a month and have about 3900 invested so far unlike alot of others that put hundeds away. So I have 100 percent in stock (3 fund index portfolio without bonds) even for my age because I feel the benefit will outweigh the risk right now with my low balance. I thought about adding bonds when my balance reaches a certain threshold or as I get closer to 50. I have still a good 25 years before retirement age and thinking I need to do some catching up. Any thoughts on if this is a good or maybe complely idiotic decision?

    • @vanguardvaluist2614
      @vanguardvaluist2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Read JL Collins "Simple Path to Wealth". The title says it all. Great resource to help you understand what is going on and more importantly the BEHAVIORS you MUST have or develop to be successful.

    • @travis1240
      @travis1240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What's important is accounting for risk. A 100% stock portfolio is risky, but in your situation I would probably do the same - max out your potential gains while taking on some risk. It isn't until your portfolio becomes bigger that the risk of loss becomes large enough to consider bonds

    • @rogerdoger9939
      @rogerdoger9939 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      IMO, the S&P500 is the only fund you need. When you get closer to 60, you can then think about moving some money to a bond fund.

    • @sfl5086
      @sfl5086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      60% in large caps
      25% in mid cap fund
      15% small caps
      Data show this diversified fund is all you need. Bonds are rubbish at your age and in this market. 0% in bonds.

    • @ozymandias90
      @ozymandias90 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rogerdoger9939I'm in a similar situation. Being from Argentina can't save enough... For the moment being I'm investing in an S&P ETF.

  • @Toomanydays
    @Toomanydays 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m 66 and retired. I’ve never owned bonds. When the market drops 50%, I’ll still have more than had I used a conventional mix during my working years.

    • @TWILLIE639
      @TWILLIE639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m 65 and retired collecting SSI survivor benefits. My IRA with Vanguard is and has been 85% bonds because they push the 50/50 rationale on me. I’m just figuring out that the account I will touch last has made very little compared to what it could have had I increased the stock portion. And to beat all, I’ve been paying a PA since 2011. I could kick my own rear end.

  • @mucusofwanderhome6945
    @mucusofwanderhome6945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really struggle with this topic as I’m now in my mid 40s and have now amassed a sizable amount of $$ in investments . Do I not want my $$$ to be more so in stocks to capitalize on compounding interest (over time)? I really don’t want to think about backing down my 90/10 mix until I’m just at my retirement date. As in, literally a year or two before I decide I want to retire. My logic anyways and I plan to have 12 months of expenses banked up all the way to that date in something a tad bit more conservative.

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      45 years old. You are a young buck, and can recover from any bear market. 100% equities for you. Go for the gold.

  • @lilmsgs
    @lilmsgs หลายเดือนก่อน

    If calculators show, if I retire at 70 and I use 4% rule that the funds will last 25 yrs, don't I only need bonds to in the portfolio to counter inflation?

  • @lilmsgs
    @lilmsgs หลายเดือนก่อน

    This Vanguard paper is no longer available. A different paper comes up.

  • @chadteeples4472
    @chadteeples4472 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for this. I’m always most curious about retiring early and how this methodology applies. For me I’m targeting retiring by 55 and assume the avg life span to late 80’s. It is difficult to reduce allocation knowing there are 30 yrs of investing time

    • @vanguardvaluist2614
      @vanguardvaluist2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I am in a similar boat. Currently 100% equities indexed. Once I hit my "number" i will re-allocate to 70% stock and 30% bonds. My plan is to have 10% of that bond money earmarked for when the market tanks (say 20% plus decline) and buy the crash. The other 20% will stay in bonds so I can live off them for multiple years without touching the stocks when the market is in the tank. Also, don't underestimate the power of picking up a part-time gig you ENJOY at some point during all of this. A lousy 10k a year gig equates to an additional 250k in your portfolio (250k x .04%= 10k) applying the 4% rule.

    • @philhoffman7361
      @philhoffman7361 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vanguardvaluist2614 I like your approach.

    • @larryjones9773
      @larryjones9773 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@philhoffman7361 I'm 60, retired at 48. My current asset allocation is 97% stock & 3% bonds. During a stock crash, I'll take out a $100,000 personal loan at 6%? interest rate. I have $2,000,000 invested.

  • @TWILLIE639
    @TWILLIE639 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I note from the comments a lot of people invested with Vanguard. Does Schwab have comparable index funds? I’m considering a move to Schwab so I can go into their office rather than rely on random people at Vanguard.

  • @user-hp9eg3gf6s
    @user-hp9eg3gf6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You should keep in mind if you are an employee your work income is fixed income and if you are a business owner aka entrepreneur your work income is equity income. So when you retire you should rebalance based on the type of income you lost, right?

    • @user-hp9eg3gf6s
      @user-hp9eg3gf6s 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If i had a job i whould have high stock allocation and when i retire i whould sell stocks and buy bonds before i anounse it to the boss.
      If i had a business i whould have a high bonds allocation to my public portfolio and when i sell my company i whould buy stocks

  • @rudged123
    @rudged123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At least part of the motivation for including bonds has centered around the idea of rebalancing, namely if the stock market is down, annual rebalancing will result in the sale of bonds to restore the balance. The problem, at least of late, is that bonds are no longer negatively correlated with the stock market. Any thoughts on the use of US treasuries as an alternative to bonds?

    • @george6977
      @george6977 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      US Treasuries are US government bonds.

    • @rudged123
      @rudged123 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@george6977 Yes, but for index investors, there is a distinction to be made between an bond index fund and actual treasuries

    • @george6977
      @george6977 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rudged123
      True. When stock valuations fall I expect investment grade and high yield corporate bonds will also fall as will emerging market debt. Developed market sovereign bonds, especially US Treasuries should rise or at least not fall as much as equities.
      If the Fed raises interest rates to prevent inflation then everything falls but shorter dated Treasuries will be hit less.

  • @danielbillyhasan250
    @danielbillyhasan250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    😊 12:39 😊

  • @alexearp
    @alexearp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I honestly believe 5% Crypto but what do I know I'm a dog lol
    Also Rob I just refound you I was a podcast listener. u should have told your listeners

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  • @urbanart7325
    @urbanart7325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can M1 assist me with allocation in all my fidelity account including 491k. I read that it can't

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't believe it can help you with accounts at other brokerages. And if you mean 401k, those are through your employer, so M1 can't help. You can roll over a 401k to an IRA at M1 once you leave your job.

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure but you can certainly figure out percentages yourself.

  • @metrocabinet
    @metrocabinet 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Rob a planner for hire?

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  • @manschool4992
    @manschool4992 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I'm trying to go down to 70/30, but stocks just keep going up and up". This strategy has worked well for you, but as someone coming into investing late in the game, and with valuation north of 30X earnings or more, do you think it's prudent to even start at 70/30 in 2024? In other words, Bogle admitted to being 20/80 due to overvaluation at one time. I am having a hard time ignoring the irrational exuberance of DOW 40,000 and coming in 80/20 at this time. Is there a time when 50/50 makes sense for a season?

  • @candlesbypurplerose1010
    @candlesbypurplerose1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you have the large index funds
    The total market FSKAX 30%
    500 index FAAIX 40%
    International FZILX 10%
    Balanced FBALX 10%
    Crypto 3%
    Bonds Treasury 7%
    age 62 starting retirement
    Since already very diversified
    the idea of moving to higher bonds while less risk would leave me risking no growth while withdrawing and possibly running out
    I do not think we will have a huge stock market crash and if it were to occur, a move to cash and wait out until correction. Your thoughts?

    • @candlesbypurplerose1010
      @candlesbypurplerose1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      May you please do video on annuities? I’ve hit that age when my portfolio ( 1 mil) is attracting annuity sales with the bait click of secured income for life. While secure income for life sounds good; I e done well self managing and

    • @candlesbypurplerose1010
      @candlesbypurplerose1010 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      May you please do video on annuities? I’ve hit that age when my portfolio ( 1 mil) is attracting annuity sales with the bait click of secured income for life. While secure income for life sounds good; I e done well self managing . Am I gambling by staying in market? Should I turn my money over for annuity and security?

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Look at the S&P 500 return for 2000, 2001, 2002. Can you handle this happening to your portfolio?

  • @TheSorrowWithinMe
    @TheSorrowWithinMe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about hedging inflation/losses with covered call etfs like qyld/xyld vs bonds?

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No a fan. Covered calls require guesses about the short term prices of stocks/etfs, and nobody can consistently do this, IMO

  • @DavidEVogel
    @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The old rule of thumb is age equals fixed-income securities. Age 60 you should be 60% fixed-income securities and 40% equities.
    Funny how these rules change over time depending on if we are in a bull or bear market.

  • @buyerclub2
    @buyerclub2 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So this popped up on my list because of the algorithim in 2024. And I noticed that it was from 2022 when interest rates were extremely low. If in 2022 you moved from a 95% equities 5% bond ratio/ to an even 70% equities 30% bond allocation, Two very bad things would have occurred. First, as interest rates rose, especially if you use a bond fund vs buying actual bonds, you would have your portfolio DROP in value. Sutstantially if you purchased long term bonds. Second, you would have left equities, in a year when equities popped, thus you lost a good portion of the potential gain. This is why I HATE age related allocation advice. Much more important is what the interest rates are relative to the mean. If they are low, and cant go much lower, like 2021-2022. Moving into fixed intruments is just fool hardy. On the other hand, if rates are high and likely will drop, it could be a good time to lock in returns. In 2024? I think a toss up.

  • @Katsuya89
    @Katsuya89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going "All In" on Dogecoin and call it a day!
    Just kidding. I'm currently 90/10 stock to bond, and plan to stay that way until in 40. Then ill go 80/20. When I retire, i plan to go to a 60/40 allocation.

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  • @LindaBrown-rp1xb
    @LindaBrown-rp1xb ปีที่แล้ว

    Hear of stop loss orders? Gives cash to start $ cost averaging back in near the bottom.

  • @ebowalker571
    @ebowalker571 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wouldn't recommend investing to much in bonds. It will destroy your growth potential.

  • @markspoor4663
    @markspoor4663 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    120 - age = out living your money

  • @mikeflair6800
    @mikeflair6800 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think stock / bond % allocation is yesterday's news...old, oversold and incorrect. Here is my new one: Stay 100% in the financial markets, no in/out plan here. You like dividends, right? Let % float over time. No set basis in %. Work with dollar values. Keep 'x' dollars in bond account. When stocks go down 10% or more, sell bonds buy stock. When stock value returns, like 10% or more, sell stocks buy bonds. Over time, keep your 'x' dollars in the bond account stable. Let stock float. Needless to say, stocks will outperform bonds and stock % will rise on profit and over extended market swings brought on by traders. It is going well, pushing 80% stock allocation. I am 67 years old. I am not afraid of market drop, it is 'stocks on sale' time to me.

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh so you are a market timer. Best of luck.

    • @shun2240
      @shun2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, a market crash is a huge sale in the stock market, but what if the US stock market stops growing?

    • @shun2240
      @shun2240 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DavidEVogel no he's not, he's invested in the market and is a value cost averaging investor

    • @christianlee1602
      @christianlee1602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not a terrible plan. The explanation does mischaracterize a 60/40 portfolio as not “100% in the financial markets”, but other than that the biggest flaw is having a bond allocation that is premised on a fixed dollar amount rather than as a percentage of the portfolio. As stocks outpace bonds over time, the plan’s risk exposure will rise (e.g., a 60/40 portfolio may become a 70/30 portfolio) which is the opposite of what people generally want as they get older. If you’re someone who isn’t concerned about continually rising risk exposure and volatility as you get older, just go for 100% equities from the beginning and leave it at that.

    • @vanallen1673
      @vanallen1673 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I use a sumilar plan with set points on how much to switch from bond to stock based on market decline levels. I also set similar set points based on stock market rises to sell stocks and accumulate bonds.

  • @assomeoneelse2275
    @assomeoneelse2275 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am 20 I have 25/75 bonds/stocks

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  • @I..cast..fireball
    @I..cast..fireball 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How TF did you get 26k in CC rewards in 1.5 years....... You would have to spend around 1M dollars to get that......

  • @TheBenchPressBoss
    @TheBenchPressBoss 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say you retire at 30- Would you do 70-30?

    • @AK-47ISTHEWAY
      @AK-47ISTHEWAY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. Bonds are cancer to your portfolio and inflation will just eat away at it. Even if you retire at age 30, you still have another 40-50 years or more of life left. That's a lot of gains you could be missing out of, so I would still be 100% in stocks.

  • @johnyjsl9219
    @johnyjsl9219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why do yo think target date funds are designed with an overly conservative allocation in retirement? They have intelligent people designing these funds so there must be some sound logic behind it.

    • @SKITTLELA
      @SKITTLELA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch his '4% Rule' videos. Basically, the 4% rule assumes mostly stocks, and a large bond percentage just doesn't have a high-enough average return to sustain retirement in some cases.

    • @johnyjsl9219
      @johnyjsl9219 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SKITTLELA Yup. I am aware of the 4% rule. It starts with something like a 50/50 stock/bond allocation so I am wondering why target date funds get more conservative than that in the retirement phase. I don't think target date funds are designed for the 4% rule.

    • @SKITTLELA
      @SKITTLELA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnyjsl9219 Yeah, I don't think they are. TDRFs basically assume you'll die a few years after you retire, haha.

  • @M_Y_Wolde
    @M_Y_Wolde 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your videos but it is kind of difficult to see the content you share. You are recording on large screen and I guess your viewers also need to be watching on a large screen.

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  • @ghostl1124
    @ghostl1124 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With the current, as well as the past three U.S. Presidents printing money in huge amounts, why should we thing that the bond market is safer than the stock market?

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because in a typical bear market investors will sell equities and buy fixed-income securities.

  • @DaystarHiker
    @DaystarHiker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    6.1% return from 100% bonds? Really?

    • @AK-47ISTHEWAY
      @AK-47ISTHEWAY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. That's not true. Inflation is going to erode all the gains. Bonds are cancer to your portfolio.

  • @carlbook2051
    @carlbook2051 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It appears that most advisors make investing too complicated. I believe it is to make their clients believe that investing is complicated, and the advisor is working hard on their behalf. Can anyone else come up with a reason to have multiple large stock funds in one account?

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    • @AK-47ISTHEWAY
      @AK-47ISTHEWAY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You don't need multiple large cap funds. Just by a total U.S. stock market fund as well as a total International stock market fund and you will be properly diversified over the world. I would do 70% U.S. and 30% International.

  • @urbanart7325
    @urbanart7325 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Die at the age of 95? Us this person living in some Greek Island? What is life expectancy for men in the US. I believe half will die before 85 and half will live longer than 85

    • @rob_berger
      @rob_berger  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, but the question is at what age should you assume you'll die for planning purposes.

    • @DavidEVogel
      @DavidEVogel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And why is this is significant?

  • @rajvo7406
    @rajvo7406 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If you're 20, you should have 20% stocks. How absurd was that philosophy

  • @royprovins7037
    @royprovins7037 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The four percent rule is silly. Not one person is ever going to follow it

    • @AK-47ISTHEWAY
      @AK-47ISTHEWAY 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My uncle does. He has been for several years now.

  • @cber5077
    @cber5077 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bonds 🤮