My wife bought me Breath of the Wild a month ago. Been playing it constantly. Still haven't found this ruin yet. Love thus game. Massive and fantastic.
Imagine being a knight, stationed in the coliseum, completely unaware of the horror that’s about to be unleashed. You’re stationed on the top floor, both you and a fellow knight are off-duty at the time. You’re sat against the wall, polishing your broadsword, and your buddy from childhood is leaned against the window, gazing out at the sunset. You feel a rumble, a small rumble, and you break the silence by asking what that was, and if your friend felt it. He isn’t aware, so he kinda just grunts dismissively. Then you hear a distant roar, and your buddy draws back in fear - Something has hit him. Not enough to cause physical pain, but something to cause speechless terror from him. You see something... Black and dark pink on his arm, it looks like goo... And it’s slowly progressing up his arm, growing by he second. It has begun, you and every knight within that stone structure have no idea what’s about to happen, the unholy infection about to ravage your ranks...
Yes something is up with the area around the Tabantha Tower, not only the malice, but the area just across the large bridge crossing the canyon heading to it is one of the few areas guarded by Skywatchers (flying guardians). I don’t know what the strategic importance of this area OR the Bottomless swamp are.
Don't forget that the Roman coliseum had a floor between the arena and the basements., so maybe the levels actually had a wooden floor where its open 100 years later. This supports that there would be multiple training levels with room for beds, weapons, ect....
Ok but there's no shape of a frame at any level, not event on the roof. And it is completely illogical to build only a part of the floor in stone, with flanges and stairs but not all of the center parts. And if it would have been destroyed, there would have been much more debris around and inside the structure. I'd thought that it could have been some kind of jail for a monster, or a nest for some kind of flying beast. There are a lot of bars on the windows, and archers could have been on the stairs and floors, aiming at the basement. It is a very weird thing to have a tower without a floor, it's on purpose i think. (beg you for the mistakes, i'm french)
I always figured it was an homage to the Coliseum in the Arbiters Grounds in Twilight Princess. It could be a place for execution of criminals of the worst kind. Which, would ALSO fall in line with your theory since it would be surrounded by guards. 🤷🏼♂️
the arbiter's ground is actually in game, its in the gerudo desert, just crazy buried under the sand, im pretty sure theres even a molduga chillin in there
The clue for finding the DLC chest in the colosseum refers to it as a training ground for hyrules warriors. So, it's a good "theory," but it was also already stated within the game
It always seemed weird to me that the coliseum served the purpose to have fights and spectators watching because of the same reasons you mentioned, I completely agree with your theory!!!
Its interesting to note that in Age of Calamity, you can see the Coliseum. Its as destroyed as it looks in Breath of the Wild. So my big question is, what heavily damaged the Coliseum if it wasn't the Second Calamity? was it hurt during the First Calamity 10000 years back? if so, why didn't the Royal Family ever tried to repair it? too costly perhaps? or maybe the Coliseum usage for the Knights was kept a secret, to prevent ambushes and invasions from outsiders? There's a lot about the Coliseum's existence that I'd like for a future Zelda game to explore. Maybe Breath of the Wild's sequel can fulfill that.
@@HyruleGamer Well, why not? Sure, its an alternate timeline of PRESENT events prior to BOTW, but nothing of the PAST has changed prior to the Calamity War. If the Coliseum was left destroyed in AOC, then it was in the same state in BOTW's timeline prior to the Calamity War. I don't think it was TK being lazy. Zelda's developers and director oversaw AOC's development, so leaving the Coliseum exactly as we see it in BOTW can't be reussing assets or laziness. Its deliberate, because its telling us something of possible importance come BOTW2.
Don’t fear lynels. If you battle enough of them, you can memorize their attack patterns/warnings for their next attacks, say a lynel jumps backwards, I’ve practiced enough to know that means it’s gonna shoot a fire blast. I recommend training with the red lynel atop shatter back point.
@@nutellamonsta5602 True, now you only need to slay a guardian to get the necessary materials. Luckily, Lynels drop good bows, so if you kill one before . . . oh, a vicious cycle.
*FUN FACT:* Killing your opponent in a real-life Gladiator fight was usually against the rules seeing as how expensive Gladiators were. Gladiator fights was more like modern day boxing matches, trained fighters who fights for entertainment and making money, not bloodshed. In fact Gladiator champions were really good for advertisement, which is yet another reason why they weren't aloud to kill each other.
I have to say the roman colliseum was used at one point to host battles, but it was used for much much more than that. there was a time where it was a marketplace, times where it was basically a place where they announce things, and more.
My theory: The sheer walls indicated to me that there were mostly aerial battles. The Rito could have had a pretty big presence within the coliseum, allowing spectators to watch at each level. The Rito training grounds were to prepare them for these bouts.
@@HyruleGamer I really liked your exploration of it! I too often take things at face value, so when the "book" says it was for contests, I had to fit that narrative into what it could have been used for. Your theory that it was for levels of training fits very well too. The same fighting techniques that would be needed for Hylian Knights to learn could be trained to here as well. Just like the Roman coliseum used to have a floor at the base above where the fighters lived and trained, there could have been floors between each level here as well. the missing 5th floor staircase could have just been in the middle of the structure... maybe we will find out in a sequel or timeline warping prequel!
@@ciarangale4738 my theory posits its use was by all races, an "international" spot for competing. The spectators (Hylians, Gerudo, Rito, Gorons, or Zora) could gather at each level to watch the competitions. Those same groups would provide fighters/competitors for the bouts. The competitions involving Rito would be naturally more aerial than others, but it would not be strictly Rito providing the fights. Just my head canon!
I seem to recall Botwick, the guy who talks about the Lord of the Mountain, mentioning the colloseum being used for fighting, and now it's used for fighting, but life-or-death against monsters, so I this makes sense.
All three labyrinths in game have malice in them as well. As some theories tell, those labyrinths were made by an ancient tribe related to the stasis of Ganons body.
You're probably correct on this! In the Age of Calamity overview map, the Colosseum is the site for battling large monsters such as the Hinox and/or Lynel. While the battles don't actually take place here since the Colosseum was not modeled in-game for AoC (huge missed opportunity), I could imaging this was the area knights trained against these large foes where they were able to be imprisoned, hence the large entryway.
Ranks of the Hylian army: soldier: a person with hylian trousers and 2/3 soldier gear. There were probably specialized soldiers, ex. Spearmen, swordsmen, archers etc. Hylian captain: a commander in full soldiers gear wielding a knights broadsword and shield. Knight: a soldier in full soldiers gear with the described set above, a knights claymore or, a knights halberd etc. Royal knight: commanders of the knights, sporting all soldiers gear, as well as all royal versions of the sets above. Royal guard: the best of the best, in full royal guards gear, sporting all sets above except in royal guards versions, and were the guards of the royal family. I hope this comment gets noticed because i want people to give me their opinion on this
The Colosseum is one of my favorite locations in the game. I really like the feeling of a fallen building that was know to fighting and now the main entertainment is watching unfortunate travelers facing a lynel by monsters. This is so epic.
@@Katherine._.97._. and to piggy-back on the malice attacking the place. If I were going to destroy a kingdom with that sort of thing, I would definitely attack the prisons. That way the defenses have to worry about the guardians and the chaos caused by escaped baddies.
I have not read the whole Making of a Champion yet so I didn't know they had written that the Coliseum was used for entertainment but I never thought it was looking at it. Your theory makes so much more sense to me. A place for entertainment is more comfortable, probably would be bigger, and have a different structure altogether. Loved this video
I really wonder what’s under the center stage of the coliseum tho. The most famous coliseum has a hypogeum underneath so I wounded if this one in botw is the same
My theory is that once the Arbiters Grounds were lost, the colosseum was built as am execution ground for dangerous enemies. The only other colosseum we see in LoZ is the Arbiters Grounds. Maybe they rebuilt it closer to the castle and it was so destroyed in the calamity, none of it is accessable anymore beyond the main structure.
My two cents on this topic, personally I've always believed the Colosseum to be a right of passage trial set up for knights to advance to the royal honour guide, likewise to explain the inconsistency from hyrule historia I do believe that the Colosseum was the number one form of entertainment but only as its secondary function so that the people can watch the birth of the next elite royal guard.
It could even be used as both colosseum and training ground. Each level could have had wooden stands that were not built in to the structure itself where people could watch elite Hylian soldiers fighting and training against monsters. A garrison of highly skilled monster slayers would have been quite the threat to Ganon.
I like that idea, i also like to think that the reason it's mentioned for being for entertainment is because maybe when a Knight was tested to see if they could climb the ranks people might have gathered to casually see. But thats just a potential idea
I think the random bits of malice in botw are just gannon using them as ranging shots like mortar crews do, most of the stray malice is on the outer parts of the map where it would be more necessary to use a ranging shot, also they could be misses or just him wasting the leftover energy.
This is such an interesting theory that makes complete sense. Because of the nature of this structure, pretty much all forms of combat can be trained here. Hand to hand, melee, spears, even advanced archery by having multi level targets. I can even imagine knights having to do endurance training by running in armour from ground to top floor. They possibly had wooden or rope fences that they put along the edges for events with Rito spectators at the top so falling wouldn't matter for them.
Great theory, it makes total sense, I also thought when exploring the Coliseum that its purpose was more for knight training than for entertainment. (But never battled the Lynel there... yet... so lazy ahah) I really enjoy the quality of the details in your videos, it's flawless, fun and very enjoyable! :)
Interesting malice theory. But do you also think it could be possible that there WERE elevated seats on the levels made of wood that might have burned away during the calamity?
Nice theory! As a training ground I wonder if the floors were used for storage, or if they were part of the training. When we enter the coliseum we have to “conquer” the center and all floors, makes me think that was the original idea too 🤔 and each floor has a different element, which could be part of the original training exercise... Also theory idea, what’s the deal with elemental weapons? Are they sheikah tech too, cause we never meet Hylian wizards, but they don’t seem sheikah in their design, and I don’t think monsters are smart enough to make those 🤷♀️
2 months late here, but, isn't there a tower surrounded by malice, narrow paths, and monsters? What purpose would that area serve? (Going to hunt it down on my game to see if I remember this correctly)
You have an awesome video, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it- that being said, you were incorrect about gladiators dying often. Gladiators were expensive to train, and much like professional wrestlers today, had a lot of name recognition. Gladiators got hurt, but it was rarely crippling or fatal. (Though people did get crippled or killed, they tried to minimize this as much as possible as it was expensive)
i mean even in age of calamity they used the Coliseum as mission ( a series of battles against incredibly fierce monsters. be sure to prepare yourself before undertaking this challenge.)
I think it seems more like it could have been where the military could lay traps... You get chased by an army, run into the coliseum, close a portcullis and suddenly they have 4 tiers of archers aiming at them... And as a potential reason for the size of the door, there's some pretty big hostile mobs in BotW e.g. Hinox
I think it's a special training ground of some sorts since the warriors would likely gather at the castle for training etc, so going to train at the coliseum would be perhaps some type of special training or test like a mid-term or finals thing
Idk if you count it, but with the dlc, the phantom armor quest mentions the ceremonial grounds(the circle place in front of the castle with the memory), the barracks nearish to the central tower, and "a battleground where brave souls tested their skill" and the other two specifically mention the hylian knights, so it's very likely that the coliseum would've been directly tied to them as well. So not too much of an actual theory, but more just kinda a thing
I'm not so sure about the malice being sent towards strategic locations. The giant skull in the east of hyrule fields, some of the labyrinths and the tabantha tower have large amounts of malice around/inside of it. How are those a threat to calamity ganon?
Forgot the last military forces class. There is Royal Knights, Knights, and Soldier. The Knights were warriors that serve the royal family and their land while the foot soldier was a peasant/serf of the land starting rank for knighthood in said Monarch. So a good possibility is the Coliseum was a foot soldier training citadel or in this case a coliseum, since it is close to a town next to the Great Plateau and next to that is mound called 'Scouts Hill' with small outpost on top. That's what I figure on my travels.
My theory is that the colesium was a trial. Champions have trials, royal guard have trials, and knights have trials- even link! But each one has 3, EXEPT royal guards. They only have 1 trial that people consider "Canon" and it is the hylian shield trial, the one where you fight a stalnox. I believe this is one of those trials. It first starts on the top, and then decend and decend as they kill all monster. And lastly the bottom, where they fight the final test- A lynel. The malice attacked it because a new army of better trained knights could rise up again from those ashes.
I think an even better explanation would be a fortress for the royal family and knights, if the castle fell. It is further away from the danger of the seas where akalla says the danger will comer from. It also has a moat for protection, large heavy gates and a bridge that can fall.
In the age of calamity dlc, we got to see the coliseum. It has statues of soldiers, as well as the same weapon hangings we see in hyrule castle, so your theory is probably still viable for this place.
I think your explanation is more accurate due to the design of the building being significantly different from a traditional gladiatorial coliseum. Serving as a combat specific training ground just makes more sense but we also don’t know the original state of the military training camp. Though that area does look like it was a basic military training area.
It makes sense that it would be a training ground for the knights due to how based on Botw's weapons there's the knights(first floor), royal knights(second floor) and royal guard(third floor)
This is such an interesting theory! I'd never clocked about the malice before. I don't buy it as a live in space for soldiers. The ergonomics don't match up for me. But I think it would be a great training base for soldiers posted the the plateau or nearby stables. With a calamity and a century passing it's not out of the realm of possibility that there were even camps in the open lands nearby too.
There is actually one more place of high malice concentration. Tabantha Tower. I don't have any explanation as to why, but it has a roughly similar amount of malice as the coliseum, possibly even more. I don't really know what was around that tower, but I do know that there must have been something big.
That is strange, maybe because it is the NW most tower outpost and strategic location for Ganon to potentially attack from? Direction-wise Ganon seemed to attack all over except in the NW area. You hardly play in this area in the map in Age of Calamity .
Hey, I figured out why I couldn't use the Master Cycle Zero. Amiibo too. It's because I managed to clip out of the calamity ganon fight. Which leads the game to think you are still in the fight. So, I'm doing master mode. And I used your tips for getting outta the plateau, and it actually worked. So thanks! I'm working on Ruta rn
Have you considered that the tippy top of the colosseum was a floor too? It may be small, but that provides more of a challenge to the knights of Hyrule. Also I disagree with the location of the stairs to the fifth floor because if you look at the location of the other three stairways it doesn’t make sense.
If it WAS an entertainment facility it must have had a massive ammount of internal wooden structure - seats, staging areas, and arena, with the remaining stone structure being simply the way to get there. But I agree with this more lol.
Also, it could a prison for Moblins and Bokoblins. Where the Hyrulian army can fight them in a safer environment. Moblins and Bokoblins being place in cages hung from the ceiling.
I actually think it might be the airbiters ground from twighlit princess because the are cage windows and also Ganondorf was excuted there so the memories might make him want to put malice there
As a 3D modeling student with a professor who owns his own video game company, I do believe that it was for entertainment, that was just designed poorly. I think they had a coliseum idea, and wanted to make it sort of an enemy palace/boss rush place. I think they made the outside to look like a coliseum, but wanted to make the inside ideal for a constant enemy fighting thing. I think this is why the staircase is how it is, and why the inside in general is how it is. So I 100% percent believe they designed it to make it seem like it was used for entertainment in the past, but added a boss rush element to it. I think what adds to this idea is the enemy’s in their themselves. Their so high up they don’t notice you in game, but they are kind of an audience to the “final boss” of you fighting the linal, as the intended way to get there is by going through a lot of bosses.
One of the first things I encountered with the coliseum were the strange platforms lining the edges (I think I climbed the side of the coliseum to enter from the top so I could avoid the lynel for as long as possible). I immediately thought this was strange since the main concept of a coliseum is about entertaining people, and a key feature is the sloping audience sections to allow viewership. This instead being some sort of training ground makes a great sort of sense, while there were areas surrounding the citadel which could have been used to train soldiers, the coliseum structure would provide a more centralised facility, and it explains the malice very well, too. Where better for Ganon to launch a large initial attack than to the reserve supply of soldiers? Wiping out the coliseum would have cut off lots of soldiers as well as spare weapons, throttling the power the Hyrule army had at its disposal early on, and leaving a presence of maice owuld serve as both a reminder of Ganon's power and stop the area from being reclaimed to make use of the space to effectively train soldiers again, which meant that renewing that 'supply' would be far too difficult for the Hyrule army! This theory does a really good job of explaining what I thought of as a fairly large mystery in my first playthrough in a way that really enhances the worldbuilding at play!
Idk if anybody’s said this yet, but colosseums weren’t like you said, being a battle to the death. It was more like a stadium for sports, the sport being Gladiatorial combat. If a death occurred, it, usually, was by accident and the killer was usually jailed.
My thought when you pointed out the lack of spectator seating: you know, it kind of looks like scaffolding for something really big... If it's really old, perhaps it was meant to be a divine beast factory.
What if the coliseum here serves a similar purpose as the one we see in Arbiters Grounds; As a high security prison? The different levels could be where guards stayed to keep an eye on things. It could have been attacked by malice not to kill the prisoners, but release them. These prisoners would be old or have passed away during the events of BOTW, but they could have played a role in the destruction of Hyrule.
Hi HG, I have an idea for a theory/mini theory that you may want to talk about, so basically, there is a bird in majoras mask, which steals your stuff if it gets close to you, and then you can then buy this stuff in the curiosity shop, this bird also drops 200 rupees, it would be really cool to see you talk about the link between the bird and the curiosity shop Oh, and the birds name is a takkuri, and also there is theif named sakon in the game and he is partly linked with the curiosity shop Also, I’m pretty sure the curiosity shop owner and the trading post owner are related because they both are always scratching their backs and the always say “I kid you not” so you could talk about the two shops
I'm really starting to dig your thinking, kid. Here's a thought to go with your thought: There is one way in (the bridge) to a defensible stronghold. This would cause a bottleneck for an encroaching enemy. The barred windows would serve well for archers to shoot from and the Coliseum is perched on a higher elevation than that of the surrounding area. This is Battle 101 - attain the high ground and make it so that no one can get to you. How do we know that there were not at one time huge doors on the entrance which could be barred to fortify the place? They would be long since rotted away or destroyed (or salvaged by survivors for wood and metal) by now. Given its proximity to Hyrule Castle, I would say that this place doubled as a training ground/shelter AND the first fallback from the Castle in the event of an attack.
I imagine that there was a lot of wooden structure within the Colosseum, which burnt to a crisp during the Calamity. I also agree that, for entertainment or execution, the place doesn't make much sense...though there may have been one observation platform for higher-ranked commanders & the like, as well as for the Royal Family or their representatives/Advisors in order to view what I think you're likely correct about in the place being an advanced multi-tier combat training ground.
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Could Dai reeeaally slay that Lynel?
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No he couldn’t.
Yes, he could. Surely he could...
No...
He is secretly link's son, so yes
My wife bought me Breath of the Wild a month ago. Been playing it constantly. Still haven't found this ruin yet. Love thus game. Massive and fantastic.
The hint given to find the phantom armour in the DLC says you'll find it in a "soldier's proving ground" (the coliseum)
Well now we know!
Yeah that's probably the biggest hint at this theory
are the dlc armors canon tho?
@@aurelia65536 there are actually theories about that by other Zelda tubers
you break the zelda theory
Imagine being a knight, stationed in the coliseum, completely unaware of the horror that’s about to be unleashed. You’re stationed on the top floor, both you and a fellow knight are off-duty at the time. You’re sat against the wall, polishing your broadsword, and your buddy from childhood is leaned against the window, gazing out at the sunset. You feel a rumble, a small rumble, and you break the silence by asking what that was, and if your friend felt it. He isn’t aware, so he kinda just grunts dismissively. Then you hear a distant roar, and your buddy draws back in fear - Something has hit him. Not enough to cause physical pain, but something to cause speechless terror from him. You see something... Black and dark pink on his arm, it looks like goo... And it’s slowly progressing up his arm, growing by he second. It has begun, you and every knight within that stone structure have no idea what’s about to happen, the unholy infection about to ravage your ranks...
Okay I think that ur childhood friend is turning into the gold lynel
Dang. Just- dang.
@@zakkmartin7994 Whoa what if malice turned these knights into lynels. Thats a cool theory
Thanks, Rosalina
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If you haven't already, you should do a theory about what happened at Tabantha Tower for it to become so consumed by Malice.
I'll have a look into it :)
and bottomless swamp
Yes something is up with the area around the Tabantha Tower, not only the malice, but the area just across the large bridge crossing the canyon heading to it is one of the few areas guarded by Skywatchers (flying guardians). I don’t know what the strategic importance of this area OR the Bottomless swamp are.
@@barrywade3774 The bottomless swamp is right by where Link met his defeat 100 years ago.I'm betting it took A LOT of malice to do that :)
This was one of the things I was thinking about the whole video 😂
Don't forget that the Roman coliseum had a floor between the arena and the basements., so maybe the levels actually had a wooden floor where its open 100 years later. This supports that there would be multiple training levels with room for beds, weapons, ect....
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Ok but there's no shape of a frame at any level, not event on the roof. And it is completely illogical to build only a part of the floor in stone, with flanges and stairs but not all of the center parts. And if it would have been destroyed, there would have been much more debris around and inside the structure.
I'd thought that it could have been some kind of jail for a monster, or a nest for some kind of flying beast. There are a lot of bars on the windows, and archers could have been on the stairs and floors, aiming at the basement. It is a very weird thing to have a tower without a floor, it's on purpose i think.
(beg you for the mistakes, i'm french)
I always figured it was an homage to the Coliseum in the Arbiters Grounds in Twilight Princess. It could be a place for execution of criminals of the worst kind. Which, would ALSO fall in line with your theory since it would be surrounded by guards. 🤷🏼♂️
the arbiter's ground is actually in game, its in the gerudo desert, just crazy buried under the sand, im pretty sure theres even a molduga chillin in there
The clue for finding the DLC chest in the colosseum refers to it as a training ground for hyrules warriors. So, it's a good "theory," but it was also already stated within the game
Thank you!
I was going to say that 😢😂
I was thinking this the whole time haha
Well theories do have to be backed up by evidence, otherwise they'd be hypotheses.
A soldiers proving ground could still refer to a conventionally used Coliseum fighting against monsters or criminals though
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It always seemed weird to me that the coliseum served the purpose to have fights and spectators watching because of the same reasons you mentioned, I completely agree with your theory!!!
Thanks a lot!
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Haha I get that 😅
Its interesting to note that in Age of Calamity, you can see the Coliseum. Its as destroyed as it looks in Breath of the Wild.
So my big question is, what heavily damaged the Coliseum if it wasn't the Second Calamity? was it hurt during the First Calamity 10000 years back? if so, why didn't the Royal Family ever tried to repair it? too costly perhaps? or maybe the Coliseum usage for the Knights was kept a secret, to prevent ambushes and invasions from outsiders? There's a lot about the Coliseum's existence that I'd like for a future Zelda game to explore. Maybe Breath of the Wild's sequel can fulfill that.
Can we really trust AOC tho?
@@HyruleGamer Well, why not? Sure, its an alternate timeline of PRESENT events prior to BOTW, but nothing of the PAST has changed prior to the Calamity War. If the Coliseum was left destroyed in AOC, then it was in the same state in BOTW's timeline prior to the Calamity War.
I don't think it was TK being lazy. Zelda's developers and director oversaw AOC's development, so leaving the Coliseum exactly as we see it in BOTW can't be reussing assets or laziness. Its deliberate, because its telling us something of possible importance come BOTW2.
@@HyruleGamer i don't see why we would discard it just because its an alternate timline. I mean the mainly accepted timeline is already spilt in 3.
Maybe it's entirely unrelated to both events. Might have naturally been abandoned and left to deteriorate like the real-life coliseum.
I've always been so interested with the coliseum but also so scared to explore it because of the lynel!
Don’t fear lynels. If you battle enough of them, you can memorize their attack patterns/warnings for their next attacks, say a lynel jumps backwards, I’ve practiced enough to know that means it’s gonna shoot a fire blast. I recommend training with the red lynel atop shatter back point.
@@zenith613 yep and once you learned all the patterns the fights start being really fun and enjoyable
I'm somewhat scared to face a golden lynel, their attacks are brutal
You can always take out the lynel with an ancient arrow
@@nutellamonsta5602 True, now you only need to slay a guardian to get the necessary materials. Luckily, Lynels drop good bows, so if you kill one before . . . oh, a vicious cycle.
*FUN FACT:*
Killing your opponent in a real-life Gladiator fight was usually against the rules seeing as how expensive Gladiators were. Gladiator fights was more like modern day boxing matches, trained fighters who fights for entertainment and making money, not bloodshed. In fact Gladiator champions were really good for advertisement, which is yet another reason why they weren't aloud to kill each other.
Interesting fact
But they used weapons
However, there were certain fights that were advertised as "to the death" and "no holds barred" to get more ppl to watch
Gladiators killing each other 5 vs 1 was probably old Christan propaganda that became truth in time
@@musique-ef3rz true, but if im not wrong, those fights werent done between gladiators, but criminals/ prisoners. They didnt care about killing them
I have to say the roman colliseum was used at one point to host battles, but it was used for much much more than that. there was a time where it was a marketplace, times where it was basically a place where they announce things, and more.
My theory:
The sheer walls indicated to me that there were mostly aerial battles. The Rito could have had a pretty big presence within the coliseum, allowing spectators to watch at each level. The Rito training grounds were to prepare them for these bouts.
:0 that’s brilliant
Interesting
While possible, i doubt something clesrly built by hylians would be designed for use by rito
@@HyruleGamer I really liked your exploration of it! I too often take things at face value, so when the "book" says it was for contests, I had to fit that narrative into what it could have been used for. Your theory that it was for levels of training fits very well too. The same fighting techniques that would be needed for Hylian Knights to learn could be trained to here as well. Just like the Roman coliseum used to have a floor at the base above where the fighters lived and trained, there could have been floors between each level here as well. the missing 5th floor staircase could have just been in the middle of the structure... maybe we will find out in a sequel or timeline warping prequel!
@@ciarangale4738 my theory posits its use was by all races, an "international" spot for competing. The spectators (Hylians, Gerudo, Rito, Gorons, or Zora) could gather at each level to watch the competitions. Those same groups would provide fighters/competitors for the bouts. The competitions involving Rito would be naturally more aerial than others, but it would not be strictly Rito providing the fights. Just my head canon!
I seem to recall Botwick, the guy who talks about the Lord of the Mountain, mentioning the colloseum being used for fighting, and now it's used for fighting, but life-or-death against monsters, so I this makes sense.
All three labyrinths in game have malice in them as well. As some theories tell, those labyrinths were made by an ancient tribe related to the stasis of Ganons body.
You're probably correct on this! In the Age of Calamity overview map, the Colosseum is the site for battling large monsters such as the Hinox and/or Lynel. While the battles don't actually take place here since the Colosseum was not modeled in-game for AoC (huge missed opportunity), I could imaging this was the area knights trained against these large foes where they were able to be imprisoned, hence the large entryway.
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Ranks of the Hylian army: soldier: a person with hylian trousers and 2/3 soldier gear. There were probably specialized soldiers, ex. Spearmen, swordsmen, archers etc. Hylian captain: a commander in full soldiers gear wielding a knights broadsword and shield. Knight: a soldier in full soldiers gear with the described set above, a knights claymore or, a knights halberd etc. Royal knight: commanders of the knights, sporting all soldiers gear, as well as all royal versions of the sets above. Royal guard: the best of the best, in full royal guards gear, sporting all sets above except in royal guards versions, and were the guards of the royal family. I hope this comment gets noticed because i want people to give me their opinion on this
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What if it could have been an old execution chamber? Like the Arbiters Grounds in Twilight Princess which also heavily resembles a coliseum.
I know. I’m suggesting it’s another execution chamber since the Arbiters Grounds became disused.
This is exactly what I thought. It's not technically Arbiters Grounds, yeah, but it's VERY reminiscent of the holding area of the Mirror of Twilight.
The Colosseum in Roman times was actually at times to train the army so you got it spot-on Adam
Thank you :)
@@HyruleGamer you're quite welcome Adam anytime
I didnt even know about Dai until this video 😅 i swear i am still learning more about this game
When talking about places with lots of malice, you forgot about that one labyrinth that's about 50% malice.
Oooh, theory on this next please!
For some reason, Dai won’t give you 100 rupees if the Lynel has turned silver.
The Colosseum is one of my favorite locations in the game. I really like the feeling of a fallen building that was know to fighting and now the main entertainment is watching unfortunate travelers facing a lynel by monsters.
This is so epic.
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With the DLC quest for the phantom armor it tells the use for the coliseum in the quest details :)
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So what is it?
What about all the malice gathered at bottomless swamp?
I actually had this theory that the coliseum was a prison.
It does have metal grates on the windows
@@Katherine._.97._. and to piggy-back on the malice attacking the place. If I were going to destroy a kingdom with that sort of thing, I would definitely attack the prisons. That way the defenses have to worry about the guardians and the chaos caused by escaped baddies.
There were already two prisons beside hyrule castle
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Oh interesting
I have not read the whole Making of a Champion yet so I didn't know they had written that the Coliseum was used for entertainment but I never thought it was looking at it. Your theory makes so much more sense to me. A place for entertainment is more comfortable, probably would be bigger, and have a different structure altogether. Loved this video
I really wonder what’s under the center stage of the coliseum tho. The most famous coliseum has a hypogeum underneath so I wounded if this one in botw is the same
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Its fun to think that there may be something of the sort under the malice
Maybe a secret dungeon? for botw2?
9:05 Wait whats that green beam going to Hyrule Castle??
I SAW THAT TOO! I think it's a divine beast laser and he changed it from green to red for some reason.
@@jaydenmichael5188 Its deffo a divine beast laser. Maybe its a mod?
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My theory is that once the Arbiters Grounds were lost, the colosseum was built as am execution ground for dangerous enemies. The only other colosseum we see in LoZ is the Arbiters Grounds. Maybe they rebuilt it closer to the castle and it was so destroyed in the calamity, none of it is accessable anymore beyond the main structure.
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My two cents on this topic, personally I've always believed the Colosseum to be a right of passage trial set up for knights to advance to the royal honour guide, likewise to explain the inconsistency from hyrule historia I do believe that the Colosseum was the number one form of entertainment but only as its secondary function so that the people can watch the birth of the next elite royal guard.
There are bars on the upper level windows… that’s not for the spectators
It could even be used as both colosseum and training ground. Each level could have had wooden stands that were not built in to the structure itself where people could watch elite Hylian soldiers fighting and training against monsters. A garrison of highly skilled monster slayers would have been quite the threat to Ganon.
I think that the reason that they made the collisiom is because they wanted to make a place for knights to train
I really wanted an in depth analysis of the true purpose of collusmeium. This is exactly what I was thinking, nice theory!
Glad I could provide!
The fact that you don't have more subs is not only mindblowing but an absolute travesty
I appreciate it haha
I agree!!
I like that idea, i also like to think that the reason it's mentioned for being for entertainment is because maybe when a Knight was tested to see if they could climb the ranks people might have gathered to casually see.
But thats just a potential idea
6:40 - that's actually wrong- there is more malice of the same or higher quantities at the Tabantha Tower and Lomei labyrinths
Yup my bad
I think the random bits of malice in botw are just gannon using them as ranging shots like mortar crews do, most of the stray malice is on the outer parts of the map where it would be more necessary to use a ranging shot, also they could be misses or just him wasting the leftover energy.
2:10 The npc looks like he's cut off when saying the f word
This is such an interesting theory that makes complete sense. Because of the nature of this structure, pretty much all forms of combat can be trained here. Hand to hand, melee, spears, even advanced archery by having multi level targets. I can even imagine knights having to do endurance training by running in armour from ground to top floor. They possibly had wooden or rope fences that they put along the edges for events with Rito spectators at the top so falling wouldn't matter for them.
Great theory, it makes total sense, I also thought when exploring the Coliseum that its purpose was more for knight training than for entertainment. (But never battled the Lynel there... yet... so lazy ahah)
I really enjoy the quality of the details in your videos, it's flawless, fun and very enjoyable! :)
That giant gate could also be for them to bring in hinox or taluses for the knights to train against bigger foes
Interesting malice theory. But do you also think it could be possible that there WERE elevated seats on the levels made of wood that might have burned away during the calamity?
Eh idk. I think there would be SOME remains surely?
Nice theory! As a training ground I wonder if the floors were used for storage, or if they were part of the training. When we enter the coliseum we have to “conquer” the center and all floors, makes me think that was the original idea too 🤔 and each floor has a different element, which could be part of the original training exercise...
Also theory idea, what’s the deal with elemental weapons? Are they sheikah tech too, cause we never meet Hylian wizards, but they don’t seem sheikah in their design, and I don’t think monsters are smart enough to make those 🤷♀️
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Theory: what if the malisk in the colosseum was originally aim to the shrine of resurrection aka the 5th divine beast
2 months late here, but, isn't there a tower surrounded by malice, narrow paths, and monsters? What purpose would that area serve? (Going to hunt it down on my game to see if I remember this correctly)
You have an awesome video, and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it- that being said, you were incorrect about gladiators dying often. Gladiators were expensive to train, and much like professional wrestlers today, had a lot of name recognition. Gladiators got hurt, but it was rarely crippling or fatal. (Though people did get crippled or killed, they tried to minimize this as much as possible as it was expensive)
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"The only way to get to it is from the bridge" I almost always climb the back and work my way down toward the lynel.
Yesss love these vids focusing on mysterious ruins/locations in games
Me too :)
i mean even in age of calamity they used the Coliseum as mission ( a series of battles against incredibly fierce monsters. be sure to prepare yourself before undertaking this challenge.)
I think it seems more like it could have been where the military could lay traps... You get chased by an army, run into the coliseum, close a portcullis and suddenly they have 4 tiers of archers aiming at them... And as a potential reason for the size of the door, there's some pretty big hostile mobs in BotW e.g. Hinox
Shakespeares theatre actually looks pretty similar in structure, minus the fences and the playhouse. It could still be an entertainment facility.
I think it's a special training ground of some sorts since the warriors would likely gather at the castle for training etc, so going to train at the coliseum would be perhaps some type of special training or test like a mid-term or finals thing
Oh interesting idea :)
Idk if you count it, but with the dlc, the phantom armor quest mentions the ceremonial grounds(the circle place in front of the castle with the memory), the barracks nearish to the central tower, and "a battleground where brave souls tested their skill" and the other two specifically mention the hylian knights, so it's very likely that the coliseum would've been directly tied to them as well. So not too much of an actual theory, but more just kinda a thing
The way it’s set up reminds me of a Shakespearean era theater especially with the open roof. Which was very common at the time.
I'm not so sure about the malice being sent towards strategic locations. The giant skull in the east of hyrule fields, some of the labyrinths and the tabantha tower have large amounts of malice around/inside of it. How are those a threat to calamity ganon?
Forgot the last military forces class. There is Royal Knights, Knights, and Soldier. The Knights were warriors that serve the royal family and their land while the foot soldier was a peasant/serf of the land starting rank for knighthood in said Monarch. So a good possibility is the Coliseum was a foot soldier training citadel or in this case a coliseum, since it is close to a town next to the Great Plateau and next to that is mound called 'Scouts Hill' with small outpost on top. That's what I figure on my travels.
Funnily enough, I thought the coliseum looked an awful lot like the mirror chamber in Twilight Princess 🤔
My theory is that the colesium was a trial. Champions have trials, royal guard have trials, and knights have trials- even link! But each one has 3, EXEPT royal guards. They only have 1 trial that people consider "Canon" and it is the hylian shield trial, the one where you fight a stalnox. I believe this is one of those trials. It first starts on the top, and then decend and decend as they kill all monster. And lastly the bottom, where they fight the final test- A lynel. The malice attacked it because a new army of better trained knights could rise up again from those ashes.
I think an even better explanation would be a fortress for the royal family and knights, if the castle fell. It is further away from the danger of the seas where akalla says the danger will comer from. It also has a moat for protection, large heavy gates and a bridge that can fall.
In the age of calamity dlc, we got to see the coliseum. It has statues of soldiers, as well as the same weapon hangings we see in hyrule castle, so your theory is probably still viable for this place.
i always wondered if there was a way to tame the monsters in botw 2
i just want to intimidate revali with a giant linal
Oh interesting
Colosseums are also used for soldier training.
There are also plenty of primitive colosseums that don’t have stands slanted.
Watching this after playing Tears of the Kingdom that 3 headed dragon is inside the colosseum! 👌👌
I think your explanation is more accurate due to the design of the building being significantly different from a traditional gladiatorial coliseum. Serving as a combat specific training ground just makes more sense but we also don’t know the original state of the military training camp. Though that area does look like it was a basic military training area.
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The Tabantha tower is covered in a lot of Malice and so is the place called “Bottomless Swamp” which is southwest of the Wetland stable
It makes sense that it would be a training ground for the knights due to how based on Botw's weapons there's the knights(first floor), royal knights(second floor) and royal guard(third floor)
This is such an interesting theory! I'd never clocked about the malice before.
I don't buy it as a live in space for soldiers. The ergonomics don't match up for me. But I think it would be a great training base for soldiers posted the the plateau or nearby stables. With a calamity and a century passing it's not out of the realm of possibility that there were even camps in the open lands nearby too.
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very few actually died in the arena , lindybeige has a great breakdown on this
There is actually one more place of high malice concentration. Tabantha Tower. I don't have any explanation as to why, but it has a roughly similar amount of malice as the coliseum, possibly even more. I don't really know what was around that tower, but I do know that there must have been something big.
I hoped someone had said that. I was like the tower though.
That is strange, maybe because it is the NW most tower outpost and strategic location for Ganon to potentially attack from? Direction-wise Ganon seemed to attack all over except in the NW area. You hardly play in this area in the map in Age of Calamity .
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@@HyruleGamer as always ill definitely watch! Looking forward to your take on it.
Also Bottomless Swamp also packs a ton of malice
Hey, I figured out why I couldn't use the Master Cycle Zero. Amiibo too. It's because I managed to clip out of the calamity ganon fight. Which leads the game to think you are still in the fight. So, I'm doing master mode. And I used your tips for getting outta the plateau, and it actually worked. So thanks! I'm working on Ruta rn
Have you considered that the tippy top of the colosseum was a floor too? It may be small, but that provides more of a challenge to the knights of Hyrule. Also I disagree with the location of the stairs to the fifth floor because if you look at the location of the other three stairways it doesn’t make sense.
amazing video! i love all of the camera angles, it makes the video look really professional! :D
Thank you! Glad you like them :)
If it WAS an entertainment facility it must have had a massive ammount of internal wooden structure - seats, staging areas, and arena, with the remaining stone structure being simply the way to get there. But I agree with this more lol.
Thank you so much for making this video. I never bought the idea that the Coliseum is for entertainment. I just never thought of what it was used for.
Thank you!
Also, it could a prison for Moblins and Bokoblins. Where the Hyrulian army can fight them in a safer environment. Moblins and Bokoblins being place in cages hung from the ceiling.
I actually think it might be the airbiters ground from twighlit princess because the are cage windows and also Ganondorf was excuted there so the memories might make him want to put malice there
4:50 are those stairs? I always thought of them as the floor of the 1st level that kind of collapsed
As a 3D modeling student with a professor who owns his own video game company, I do believe that it was for entertainment, that was just designed poorly.
I think they had a coliseum idea, and wanted to make it sort of an enemy palace/boss rush place.
I think they made the outside to look like a coliseum, but wanted to make the inside ideal for a constant enemy fighting thing. I think this is why the staircase is how it is, and why the inside in general is how it is.
So I 100% percent believe they designed it to make it seem like it was used for entertainment in the past, but added a boss rush element to it.
I think what adds to this idea is the enemy’s in their themselves. Their so high up they don’t notice you in game, but they are kind of an audience to the “final boss” of you fighting the linal, as the intended way to get there is by going through a lot of bosses.
One of the first things I encountered with the coliseum were the strange platforms lining the edges (I think I climbed the side of the coliseum to enter from the top so I could avoid the lynel for as long as possible). I immediately thought this was strange since the main concept of a coliseum is about entertaining people, and a key feature is the sloping audience sections to allow viewership. This instead being some sort of training ground makes a great sort of sense, while there were areas surrounding the citadel which could have been used to train soldiers, the coliseum structure would provide a more centralised facility, and it explains the malice very well, too. Where better for Ganon to launch a large initial attack than to the reserve supply of soldiers? Wiping out the coliseum would have cut off lots of soldiers as well as spare weapons, throttling the power the Hyrule army had at its disposal early on, and leaving a presence of maice owuld serve as both a reminder of Ganon's power and stop the area from being reclaimed to make use of the space to effectively train soldiers again, which meant that renewing that 'supply' would be far too difficult for the Hyrule army! This theory does a really good job of explaining what I thought of as a fairly large mystery in my first playthrough in a way that really enhances the worldbuilding at play!
Idk if anybody’s said this yet, but colosseums weren’t like you said, being a battle to the death. It was more like a stadium for sports, the sport being Gladiatorial combat. If a death occurred, it, usually, was by accident and the killer was usually jailed.
I wasn't going into literally every purpose. All are very valid :)
My thought when you pointed out the lack of spectator seating: you know, it kind of looks like scaffolding for something really big... If it's really old, perhaps it was meant to be a divine beast factory.
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I never considered it to be a training ground. You have a really sound theory and I’m seconding it:)
What if the coliseum here serves a similar purpose as the one we see in Arbiters Grounds; As a high security prison? The different levels could be where guards stayed to keep an eye on things. It could have been attacked by malice not to kill the prisoners, but release them. These prisoners would be old or have passed away during the events of BOTW, but they could have played a role in the destruction of Hyrule.
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Hi HG, I have an idea for a theory/mini theory that you may want to talk about, so basically, there is a bird in majoras mask, which steals your stuff if it gets close to you, and then you can then buy this stuff in the curiosity shop, this bird also drops 200 rupees, it would be really cool to see you talk about the link between the bird and the curiosity shop
Oh, and the birds name is a takkuri, and also there is theif named sakon in the game and he is partly linked with the curiosity shop
Also, I’m pretty sure the curiosity shop owner and the trading post owner are related because they both are always scratching their backs and the always say “I kid you not” so you could talk about the two shops
I'll note it down mate!
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Wow. I would have NEVER thought of it like this. Dude keep making BOTW lord videos, they’re so interesting to watch. Ya earned a new sub man!
you using gender neutral pronouns for dai actually warms my heart
there's also a ruined house near the entrance where eric hides so try and wiggle that into the theory as well.
I'm really starting to dig your thinking, kid.
Here's a thought to go with your thought:
There is one way in (the bridge) to a defensible stronghold. This would cause a bottleneck for an encroaching enemy. The barred windows would serve well for archers to shoot from and the Coliseum is perched on a higher elevation than that of the surrounding area. This is Battle 101 - attain the high ground and make it so that no one can get to you.
How do we know that there were not at one time huge doors on the entrance which could be barred to fortify the place? They would be long since rotted away or destroyed (or salvaged by survivors for wood and metal) by now.
Given its proximity to Hyrule Castle, I would say that this place doubled as a training ground/shelter AND the first fallback from the Castle in the event of an attack.
The background music is very vibey
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Haha I agree
I imagine that there was a lot of wooden structure within the Colosseum, which burnt to a crisp during the Calamity. I also agree that, for entertainment or execution, the place doesn't make much sense...though there may have been one observation platform for higher-ranked commanders & the like, as well as for the Royal Family or their representatives/Advisors in order to view what I think you're likely correct about in the place being an advanced multi-tier combat training ground.
aquamentus and horsehead are two classic bosses i would love to see in a new game