It’s always been the way, the media love to try to keep us down and cause problems. And it’s usually the same people in the media who have ties to other clubs eg Merson, Keane, Carragher
Some of the fan base are crazy. I’m not sure there is another sport where managers are changed out or the fans want them out like Soccer (I know, Football). In the US you do not see successful managers, yes, Ange is successful (from 8th to 5th and pushed for 4th in his first year) calling to be sacked after a few games. The guy wants to win for the long term. Are the fans really that starved for a trophy? Wanted nothing more than to see Kane lift a trophy in a Spurs kit! I have watched the Spurs for 14 years with all the ups and downs and I am 100% behind Ange until he is no longer at Spurs.
Abi is right, why sack him now as its only the start of the season and even though we havent had the best start we havent really played badly. And who would we get to replace him, anyone who thinks Thomas Tuchel wants their head examining as he would end up being as toxic as Conte or Mourinho
Our fan base is so delusional. We aren’t contending for the league, top 4 is literally the best we could possibly hope for, we are 4 games in. We are back in Europe and our squad is not at the standard of the best teams. Ange is honestly doing ok imo. Our best chance is the Europa or to Nick a cup.
I am not convinced and never have been, only because he has NOT won things at this level, half the fan base want to give him 4 years to crack it. Ange is just not comparing like with like, as Pep always tells us this is the most competitive league to win in the world. It is not logical to jump to this level and say well I usually win in my second year mate ! The prem is not Scottish/Japan/Aus football !
@@TooDarnSoulful for me as Celtic fan..... We are all behind our club/manager and players 100% whether we win lose or draw!! Have a bit of faith in your team & ange! Ange can't just click his fingers and have yous winning every single game! There's work to be done and it's showing M8 because yous are doing a lot better than yous have done in previous years, just saying!
@TooDarnSoulful yes, but you have to remember that this very hard league that you are talking about, he managed to come 5th without a striker no backups in defence and a lot of injuries plus a load of players that could barely pass a ball. Just saying 🤷🏽♂️
Ange wants to win. Talking about winning shouldnt be dismissed. Its a belief system. Theyre all good players etc, Tottenham just need to be transformed in terms of their belief of winning things, instead of the hope of winning things. Put your balls on the line. From an Australian. Don't complain, don't explain, just do!
I love how Abbi calls Ange's coaching a bit naive, and then fails to understand the benefit of getting game time into the second tier players on the list....
Love Abby's energy but she's wrong about starting 11 EVERY game, physically it's not possible to maintain anywhere near the right standards unless you give up on performing at all in the EPL. We need to be better at smarter rotating throughout the season and earlier in games. You can't win a cup or get top 4 without rotation, the game is increasingly more physical.
Even the ideology of prioritising a Cup competition over the league demonstrates how far Spurs have to come. The greatest ever manager the PL has had took over 5 years to win a league. Too many fans think success is one year away. This isn't the German, Spanish or French leagues where only 1 or 2 teams have the resources to challenge every year. For Liverpool to win the league it took 3-4 years of building, it's taken Arsenal 4 years of building. There isn't a manager on the planet who could turn Spurs into a league winner within 1 season. And until they are consistently in the top 4, they won't be a destination for any type of accomplished player.
Just press BS again, get a new record!!! We outplayed arsenal despite losing in a smash and grab, we outplayed Newcastle and again lost against ruin of play, we battered Everton and Leicester with a draw and win and the only poor performance was Coventry with our youth team. Last night we battered Brentford 23 v6 shots and all of this with Ange 1 years and 6 games into his tenure. Get a grip any whinging Spurs fans (you are not true fans if you don't back your team and manager! go support Chelski, you will do well there instead).
I cant believe so many spurs fans are Ange out after 1 season getting 5th and 5 games. We are still a developing team, getting 5th last year was an achievement all Spurs fans can acknowledge that. So if that's true why after 5 games are fans crashing out. Our loses are based on a couple defensive errors and our WEAK attack not being clinical. That's not to say Ange is blameless. But Just like how we have to get on him about Corners and Defensive structure, Our inability to score has been putting ourselves in position to be 60 Minutes in with 60% possession and to suddenly be down 1-0. We know Ange likes to score early changes the tone of the game, opens things up which helps his style more. If our Wingers and Strikers aren't scoring the tactics are useless and players lose confidence. A confident Spurs side looks dangerous for the players we have, WE need more Quality and to BE more solid on defense. Maybe Ange Can alter the structure at the back for that or change instruction. We see the idea and what he wants to do,. After getting 5th place even if it didn't look the best at the end, got 5h place, I think He deserves more patience. 2 Year minimum . i don't get what other Spurs fans are expecting . If we want to turn things around it takes ups and downs.
@@darrenjpeters But what happens if they win nothing again this season. How much longer can you be close but come away empty handed. How much longer before people start questioning if Arteta and Arsenal have what it takes?
Hell, Abbi, we need to rotate our players; if not, we will burn them out and have a lot of injuries. Aside from that, every other thing you said is SPOT ON. Can the media and negative Spurs fans leave Ange alone with the attacks? We asked for a rebuild; it is not even up to 2 years, and they are attacking him. Perfect to use Arsenal and Arteta's situation as an example. Could you give the man time? I don't get it. SMH. Side note, the most outstanding managers are spicy if you push them in interviews. Remember, Sir Alex, who walked out a reporter, thinks of asking Pep, Klup, Wenger, etc, one question 3 times after a loss. Imagine how that interview will go.
Spurs are not accustomed to winning any titles......They are not known for being serial winners so why do their fans think they should have the same expectations or pressure on them as Chelsea , United , Liverpool , City and Arsenal who are all clearrrr of Spurs?
English fans are so hard to understand. Angeball is quality football that is attacking and when committed to results in the kind of football that English fans bemoan that their national team never plays. They're the ice skater who is never willing to let go of the railing. To call his football naive is not understanding a process takes time. The Tottenham fans who are calling for his head need to be brave and not fall back to the comfort of the negativity they've been wallowing in for too long.
Why do people love comparing anything to Arsenal, Arteta or Saka? Why not other clubs, managers and players? Especially Tottenham, Manchester United and Chelsea fans.
Spot on, by Abbi imho! We need a trophy, NOT top 4 CL. Spurs is not ready for this until a couple of years. There is a generation of players upcoming for Spurs Academy. This season will be a up and down rollercoaster. Believe you me I screamed at the tv when the Coventry-match was on. Spurs NEEDS trophies in their cabinet, not top 4 and winningless CL competition.
Ange never said that is what I do! Nor has he predicted he will do it this season? In context he said what has happened in the past! Openly and honestly, not highlighting it nor belittling it! I am really starting to see why you cant play cricket! How is short form tour going with Australia? Abbi just proved she does not understand Ange ball even at a surface level!
Tottenham are in 3 cups 👍say we finish 8th but win the europa league that’s us in the champions league next season and a trophy in the cabin. 100% ange is the man to take us to glory
we should of beat newcastle just didnt take our chances and should of at least got a draw against aresnal thats 4 extra points we could have had what would put a different narrative in the talk about ange.
Last season most Spurs fans were saying they were happy with Ange ball & after years watching defence minded football, now it seems it's not enough & half the fans want Ange out, cos his one dimensional style of football will loose plenty of games & teams have wised up to Ange ball. 😂
Stupid comments on here. It's a fact Spurs should have won at Leicster and Newcastle. So many chances, but no luck. Very lucky at Coventry, yet unlucky at Arsenal.
Welcome to the British media and half the public Ange, have to find something to cry about else they get even more depressed and run to their moms that they still live with. Give them the V and worry about the fans only, especially the away fans
This game just another proof that Angeball works well against lower tier clubs. My problem is that we, the Spurs, trying to play this way against better teams and failing again and again without adjustments.
@@alexvoron5295 Alex , did you not notice that the team played differently today attacking wise ? They sat back more than usual , and for the first time in a long time had less possession. what game were u watching .?
@@Spartan21blue Yes, there was a different approach in the second half. Our 3rd goal is directly from Conte era. I hope we are seeing a little adjustments, and it's a welcome sign.
Hilarious that Abi thinks there is no problem with starting your best 11 starting every game. Just highlights how disassociated fans are with the reality of playing so many games every season.
spot on. been a spurs fan since robbie keane. same hogwash, different team kit. ownership dont care about trophies. all these discussions are for naught. the people who matter and call the shots DO NOT CARE about fan opinions. i stopped wasting my energy years ago, ive got children to raise.
Ange is a good honest man. A top bloke. He’ll do well. The press needs to back off the poor guy.
It’s always been the way, the media love to try to keep us down and cause problems. And it’s usually the same people in the media who have ties to other clubs eg Merson, Keane, Carragher
Some of the fan base are crazy. I’m not sure there is another sport where managers are changed out or the fans want them out like Soccer (I know, Football). In the US you do not see successful managers, yes, Ange is successful (from 8th to 5th and pushed for 4th in his first year) calling to be sacked after a few games. The guy wants to win for the long term. Are the fans really that starved for a trophy? Wanted nothing more than to see Kane lift a trophy in a Spurs kit! I have watched the Spurs for 14 years with all the ups and downs and I am 100% behind Ange until he is no longer at Spurs.
Abi is right, why sack him now as its only the start of the season and even though we havent had the best start we havent really played badly. And who would we get to replace him, anyone who thinks Thomas Tuchel wants their head examining as he would end up being as toxic as Conte or Mourinho
Our fan base is so delusional. We aren’t contending for the league, top 4 is literally the best we could possibly hope for, we are 4 games in. We are back in Europe and our squad is not at the standard of the best teams. Ange is honestly doing ok imo. Our best chance is the Europa or to Nick a cup.
Ange out?! I swear some Spurs fans are mental.
Agree. However, I rarely hear the negativity towards Ange inside the stadium from the match going fan. Always seems to be on social media….
@@sean1626 If the boo boys hound him out he will go somewhere else and smash it. I am 💯 sure of that.
Never underestimate big ange he's a born winner!! 🏆🏆🏆 Well done to him n the guys! Have faith spurs fans! HH💚🍀🍀
I am not convinced and never have been, only because he has NOT won things at this level, half the fan base want to give him 4 years to crack it. Ange is just not comparing like with like, as Pep always tells us this is the most competitive league to win in the world. It is not logical to jump to this level and say well I usually win in my second year mate ! The prem is not Scottish/Japan/Aus football !
@@TooDarnSoulful for me as Celtic fan..... We are all behind our club/manager and players 100% whether we win lose or draw!! Have a bit of faith in your team & ange! Ange can't just click his fingers and have yous winning every single game! There's work to be done and it's showing M8 because yous are doing a lot better than yous have done in previous years, just saying!
@TooDarnSoulful yes, but you have to remember that this very hard league that you are talking about, he managed to come 5th without a striker no backups in defence and a lot of injuries plus a load of players that could barely pass a ball. Just saying 🤷🏽♂️
You can’t compare Celtic to Spurs. Celtic should be winning everything in Scotland, especially if Rangers aren’t competing.
@@TJTOPBOY 😂😂😂 he didn't only win with Celtic🤷 lol
Kweku talking way too much sense. Nice to see a good representation of the smarter Spurs supporters rather than the loud, reactionary, toxic idiots.
Ange wants to win. Talking about winning shouldnt be dismissed. Its a belief system. Theyre all good players etc, Tottenham just need to be transformed in terms of their belief of winning things, instead of the hope of winning things. Put your balls on the line. From an Australian. Don't complain, don't explain, just do!
We all criticized Ange for not changing! Now that he changed, we should all be buzzed for the team
I love how Abbi calls Ange's coaching a bit naive, and then fails to understand the benefit of getting game time into the second tier players on the list....
So you don't love it then do ya daft clown
shes never played mens football id say
Love Abby's energy but she's wrong about starting 11 EVERY game, physically it's not possible to maintain anywhere near the right standards unless you give up on performing at all in the EPL.
We need to be better at smarter rotating throughout the season and earlier in games. You can't win a cup or get top 4 without rotation, the game is increasingly more physical.
I just wish people would get off his back and trying to put words in his mouth!! Ange In and COYS!!........The Aussie Spurs Fan.
Even the ideology of prioritising a Cup competition over the league demonstrates how far Spurs have to come. The greatest ever manager the PL has had took over 5 years to win a league. Too many fans think success is one year away. This isn't the German, Spanish or French leagues where only 1 or 2 teams have the resources to challenge every year. For Liverpool to win the league it took 3-4 years of building, it's taken Arsenal 4 years of building. There isn't a manager on the planet who could turn Spurs into a league winner within 1 season. And until they are consistently in the top 4, they won't be a destination for any type of accomplished player.
Just press BS again, get a new record!!! We outplayed arsenal despite losing in a smash and grab, we outplayed Newcastle and again lost against ruin of play, we battered Everton and Leicester with a draw and win and the only poor performance was Coventry with our youth team. Last night we battered Brentford 23 v6 shots and all of this with Ange 1 years and 6 games into his tenure. Get a grip any whinging Spurs fans (you are not true fans if you don't back your team and manager! go support Chelski, you will do well there instead).
I don't understand the reaction after losing to Arsenal? That should be expected, and then it's a major surprise when it doesn't happen.
Wouldn’t say major
@G-q6h7i clearly they are one of the biggest clubs
Nice to hear some sensible commentary
Great discussion. These guys get it
Abbi, the word you were looking for wasn't naive, it was scary.
Face it, he makes you feel uncomfortable and that scares you.
I cant believe so many spurs fans are Ange out after 1 season getting 5th and 5 games. We are still a developing team, getting 5th last year was an achievement all Spurs fans can acknowledge that. So if that's true why after 5 games are fans crashing out. Our loses are based on a couple defensive errors and our WEAK attack not being clinical. That's not to say Ange is blameless. But Just like how we have to get on him about Corners and Defensive structure, Our inability to score has been putting ourselves in position to be 60 Minutes in with 60% possession and to suddenly be down 1-0. We know Ange likes to score early changes the tone of the game, opens things up which helps his style more. If our Wingers and Strikers aren't scoring the tactics are useless and players lose confidence. A confident Spurs side looks dangerous for the players we have, WE need more Quality and to BE more solid on defense. Maybe Ange Can alter the structure at the back for that or change instruction. We see the idea and what he wants to do,. After getting 5th place even if it didn't look the best at the end, got 5h place, I think He deserves more patience. 2 Year minimum . i don't get what other Spurs fans are expecting . If we want to turn things around it takes ups and downs.
You’re well off
@@shannonrobertson9972how
It’s just a loud minority saying that rubbish
they aint fans
Where has Arteta taken Arsenal. 1 Fa Cup in 5 years? 2 straight seasons "challenging" but ultimately winning nothing.
That's how you win things, champ. You have to keep on challenging. There are no guarantees.
@@darrenjpeters But what happens if they win nothing again this season. How much longer can you be close but come away empty handed. How much longer before people start questioning if Arteta and Arsenal have what it takes?
@@darrenjpetersperfect response to that rubbish comment.
99% win nothing doh
Hell, Abbi, we need to rotate our players; if not, we will burn them out and have a lot of injuries. Aside from that, every other thing you said is SPOT ON. Can the media and negative Spurs fans leave Ange alone with the attacks? We asked for a rebuild; it is not even up to 2 years, and they are attacking him. Perfect to use Arsenal and Arteta's situation as an example. Could you give the man time? I don't get it. SMH. Side note, the most outstanding managers are spicy if you push them in interviews. Remember, Sir Alex, who walked out a reporter, thinks of asking Pep, Klup, Wenger, etc, one question 3 times after a loss. Imagine how that interview will go.
He’s Aussie. Stop worrying. Success will come. Stop acting like you are all English. Hang on. My bad. Pretend you are Aussies and stop worrying.
Spurs are not accustomed to winning any titles......They are not known for being serial winners so why do their fans think they should have the same expectations or pressure on them as Chelsea , United , Liverpool , City and Arsenal who are all clearrrr of Spurs?
Abbi is bang on and echo's my spurs thoughts.. COYS!!
English fans are so hard to understand. Angeball is quality football that is attacking and when committed to results in the kind of football that English fans bemoan that their national team never plays. They're the ice skater who is never willing to let go of the railing.
To call his football naive is not understanding a process takes time. The Tottenham fans who are calling for his head need to be brave and not fall back to the comfort of the negativity they've been wallowing in for too long.
For a mob that has a motto “To dare is to do” there seems to be a lot of whinging about being daring.
@@daveweller9550it’s more to whine is to do
@@daveweller9550 That's a club motto, not a fan one.
It highlights the difference between many fans and the club.
@@barneyhall2753 so you have fans that don’t agree or align with the club motto? What are they a fan of then.
@@daveweller9550 of themselves 😎
If you want stability it starts with the fan's!!!
She’s everywhere this girl 🤣
Why do people love comparing anything to Arsenal, Arteta or Saka? Why not other clubs, managers and players? Especially Tottenham, Manchester United and Chelsea fans.
cos none of them won anything for yearrrrrs
Spot on, by Abbi imho! We need a trophy, NOT top 4 CL. Spurs is not ready for this until a couple of years. There is a generation of players upcoming for Spurs Academy. This season will be a up and down rollercoaster. Believe you me I screamed at the tv when the Coventry-match was on. Spurs NEEDS trophies in their cabinet, not top 4 and winningless CL competition.
Ange never said that is what I do! Nor has he predicted he will do it this season? In context he said what has happened in the past! Openly and honestly, not highlighting it nor belittling it! I am really starting to see why you cant play cricket! How is short form tour going with Australia? Abbi just proved she does not understand Ange ball even at a surface level!
Yet when Ten Hag gets spikey, everyone goes in on him, and he's actually won stuff!
Abi that’s naive playing your first 11 every game. Rotation is a must . But she is one of many.
Ange getting criticised as a spurs manger is funny because what expectation is there of him?
Tottenham are in 3 cups 👍say we finish 8th but win the europa league that’s us in the champions league next season and a trophy in the cabin. 100% ange is the man to take us to glory
we should of beat newcastle just didnt take our chances and should of at least got a draw against aresnal thats 4 extra points we could have had what would put a different narrative in the talk about ange.
Last season most Spurs fans were saying they were happy with Ange ball & after years watching defence minded football, now it seems it's not enough & half the fans want Ange out, cos his one dimensional style of football will loose plenty of games & teams have wised up to Ange ball. 😂
Rewind the tape, she has changed her tune.
This comparison with arsenal is a nonsense, Mikel had time and a board that was will to back him. Ange have Daniel levy
I’ll never get those braincells back, thanks
Abi is wearing her shirt back to front?
Stupid comments on here. It's a fact Spurs should have won at Leicster and Newcastle. So many chances, but no luck. Very lucky at Coventry, yet unlucky at Arsenal.
Welcome to the British media and half the public Ange, have to find something to cry about else they get even more depressed and run to their moms that they still live with. Give them the V and worry about the fans only, especially the away fans
This channel is just toxic
The fans of all clubs on here are even more pathetic.
Isn’t this video the opposite of toxic?
This game just another proof that Angeball works well against lower tier clubs. My problem is that we, the Spurs, trying to play this way against better teams and failing again and again without adjustments.
@@alexvoron5295 Alex , did you not notice that the team played differently today attacking wise ? They sat back more than usual , and for the first time in a long time had less possession. what game were u watching .?
@@Spartan21blue Yes, there was a different approach in the second half. Our 3rd goal is directly from Conte era. I hope we are seeing a little adjustments, and it's a welcome sign.
Hilarious that Abi thinks there is no problem with starting your best 11 starting every game.
Just highlights how disassociated fans are with the reality of playing so many games every season.
So the Irrelevant small club finally got a win? Hureee
Hasn’t your mummy tucked you into bed yet
their money makes them relevant. like it or not they make more money than most clubs in england
Spurs will always be mediocre
Nope
No, mediocre is your “commentary”
spot on. been a spurs fan since robbie keane. same hogwash, different team kit. ownership dont care about trophies. all these discussions are for naught. the people who matter and call the shots DO NOT CARE about fan opinions. i stopped wasting my energy years ago, ive got children to raise.
I stand by Ange.