Their fued, to me, comes more out of a blatant misunderstanding of each other's intent than disrespect or racism. It's sad, really. I think these two minds could actually make great strides together.
Tarantino is making a point here 20 years before it became mainstream. And it reflects a respect he holds for Spike’s work. A perfect world would be one where Spike kept making the movies he does, without shitting on other directors.
Spike has a history of calling out Hollywood’s hypocrisy. Many of the things he called out then is being considered progressive now. Back then they called him “bitter”. The industry wasn’t kind to black creatives in his time. Especially outspoken ones.
@@iansmart4158 he's very foolish. He literally portrayed David Duke as a republican because he supports the democratic party. He's a very, very foolish man
Actually, he's just reporting on what Spike Lee said. You seem to credit Tarantino for expressing the idea when it's Lee who said it. Also, Tarantino can be just as disrespectful as Lee. He's often talked about how directors over 60 should stop working, even when in the presence of directors much older than that.
Watching Tarantino here compared to his voice now is a good example of how accents have changed since the 90s. we used to be softer spoken and aspirate more
To be fair, Tarantino has seen almost every single classic and pop culture indie films from the 40s to today. I agree, both have the ability to be pretentious and I disagree with some notions described by either director. However, Despite this, we still have to acknowledge their cultural significance on films, popular media, representation, etc.
It’s confusing to me that Jackie Brown was the film that sparked off the feud with the use of the N-word when it’s arguably used more needlessly in his previous films. In Jackie Brown it’s used by black career criminals from Compton, which is just a perfectly accurate depiction of how a lot of them talk. I don’t think a white character using the word is necessarily a bad thing but if you’re gonna get mad about it it seems like you’d start with how it’s used in Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs, whereas he’s praising those films here and got mad about the films where you could make a case that it’d be almost unrealistic not to use it like in Jackie Brown or particularly Django
Yeah it makes 0 sense. Spike Lee also has no problem with The Sopranos apparently, which is directed by David Chase, a white man, and literally has black people in the show just to show how racist the mob guys are. How is that different from Tarantino? He also does it to show the ignorance of some characters, etc.
@@Dragonpuncher123 Yeah maybe, there were instances in True Romance to Pulp Fiction which did feel unnecessary and gratuitous so maybe he just decided he wouldn’t do it unless there was actually a black character in the movie to say it or where it’d make dramatic sense that it’s being said to them
@@GiantSandles I might have made him think about it at least. But when Django came out Spike Lee of course got pissed off once again and then the feud started all over. Hard for Tarantino to write the way he wants without pissing of Spike Lee it seems.
This is the thing about race, and racial events. There will be always some sort of third order logic about the term whenever it is used by a white person. No matter how much you rationalize its use in Tarantino films, there will be a few blacks that become emotionally compromised by its use. Just as blacks are easily emotionally compromised by any predicament that "may' be about race. Imagine a white man actually writing the n word, many times, in a script. I don't know if Tarantio is racist or not. But I do know that I enjoy his films. I highly doubt that he is racist.
Actully, I think Tarantino really appreciates Spike Lee because he helped reignite the flames of independent cinema for a new generation of filmmakers. He even appeared in Lee's film, Girl 6 following a lot of public scrutiny of his use of the "n" word. I think Tarantino really likes to act, but I don't think he would have appeared in that film unless he respected Lee's work and his immeasurable influence on up and coming film makers like Kevin Smith and himself.
god everybody's saying that tarantino is such an violent, aggressive and audacious person but he really seems to be a smart artist who have his own vision, imagine people one day understending this...
Just chiming in here because, as a gay guy, yes, when I see a movie with a gay romance (Maurice, Call Me By Your Name, My Own Private Idaho, etc.) the experience can be overwhelming only because you have such a direct connection to the story that you often don't in a movie strictly because of it's exclusively heterosexual characters. However, most truly great and enduring stories transcend their particulars and touch something that's in all of us, regardless of our differences. Romeo and Juliet is about forbidden love, and that's something any gay person can relate to, even though that story may be considered the most classic example of heterosexual romance. I think sometimes identity politics can water down what makes a story truly great and make things more about representation, which can divide people into sub groups, rather than unify us by the emotions and experiences we all share.
You Goddamm right bud, the division caused by those Identity Politics BS........are someday going to Form Colonies, everywhere, with tags, categorised on the basis of sexual Orientation, Race and .......... Idk Could be anything
I’m so glad we live in more enlightened times where it’s no longer a rare thing to see black people kissing onscreen. Not to mention DP and ATM… okay, maybe that’s just my screen.
most black people think every single white person is a racist no matter what. it’s pretty sad. but they are told that from everyone around them since they are kids. of course they are gunna think we are all racist. it’s not true, but they think it
Who said he was? I keep seeing these mindless fanboy posts protesting that he's not racist when literally there is no mention of him being racist anywhere in the video.
He is sad since nobody watches his films. Because he doesn't read the room around him. He doesn't give two fucks about the audiences, he just wants to make black movies about black dudes bashing white guys , every director made a movie based on black culture but nooo this prick picked on Tarantino for using the n word. Please remind him that he is not the only black person on the planet
I've seen some Spike Lee movies but only the ones Denzel is in. Those are mediocre at best & relies on the actors. QT movies rely on the actors, writing, etc. QT is the superior director.
In most of his movies the characters are often criminals and that's how criminals tend to talk, like they don't give a shit offending you. I'd rather realistuc dialogue in my movies, Spike Lee will never be in Quentin's league
Seeing a lot of commenters saying how awful the slavers were in Django Unchained. How poorly they treated slaves. How they use the no no word. Painted a funny picture in my head of this "woke south" where all the slavers are relatable, kind, people who have never spoken a slur in their life. God forbid a director depicting slavers, nazis, & career criminals as horrific people. Cant imagine attributing a villain's morals & speech to the writer.
Oh bullshit. You haven't seen a lot of commenters saying that. You just made that up to support the next part of your comment. Edit: Besides, thanks Captain Obvious for stating what is VERY Obvious to everybody 🙄
Nah, he's made because people watch movies like Jackie Brown and think that depicts black people universally I think Spike should have beef with other black directors fot not having pushed for better filmmaking techniques and being stereotypical like Singleton or...yeah, Singleton
I think that Spike Lee needs to understand that the use of the N-word in Tarantino's movies is used to point out racism or stupidity. This becomes clear _especially_ with Django Unchained, the Tarantino film I suspect Spike Lee likes the least.
Especially the hateful eight. Walton goggins character chris mannix is a blatant racist. But in the end, him and major marquis find common ground and beat the kind of people who are much worse. By the end of the film, he's still a racist but they both have respect for one another
@@TJ-fe7rr I’d say he begins as a racist yes, but not one who hates with a burning passion. I’d say he’s just ignorant and prejudiced to not like them on account of how he grew up. I’d say racists really hate whatever race they hate to a T and won’t even talk or stand near them.
QT throws the N-Word around quite a bit himself in Pulp Fiction. I doubt that was supposed to signify his racism. It’s more likely mean to to be funny.
@@iansmart4158 Tarantino's "dead n-word storage" was written like that to demonstrate that his character was personally close to Jules in the past, so that he feels comfortable using phrases the same as a black person would, but at the same time, his character is no longer in the crime world, he's now a suburban husband, and so he is cringy when he tries to sound tough. It's also funny, and the humor has nothing to do with the word being a racial slur.
the new candyman movie holds the distinction of being the first film directed by a black woman to reach number 1 in the box office. think about that...thats crazy to me.
BlacKkKlansman impressed me the most because I could tell how deeply it was researched. The casual observer might think that Lee was just making criticism of the Trump Administration, but it could have been made 30 years ago and still reflective of the Republican Party. Here's an excerpt from a David Duke era Klan handbook about the values of the KKK. See if any of that sounds familiar. IDEALS A KLANSMAN STANDS FOR 1. THE WHITE RACE: The irreplaceable hub of our nation, our Christian faith, and the high levels of Western culture and technology. 2. AMERICA FIRST: First before any foreign or alien influence or interest 3. THE CONSTITUTION: As originally written and intended. The finest system of government ever conceived by man. 4. FREE ENTERPRISE: Private property and ownership of business, but an end to high-finance exploitation. 5. POSITIVE CHRISTIANITY: The right of the American people to practice their faith -- including prayers in schools. Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Handbook, p. 3.
In Spike Lee’s ‘Do the right thing’(brilliant film) there’s a scene when some of the characters break the 4th wall and play to racist stereotypes. Surely this was a comment on the ignorance of hatred. Much akin to Tarantino’s use of “that” word. Seems to me Lee is being hypocritical. Words are only weapons when we socially construct them to be.
@@Hoganply But that poses the question is there such a thing as “individuality”? The majority follow and accept official narratives and acceptability. Only when a true visionary or leader emerges does it break the status quo. BUT! Then everyone starts following that narrative. I think there’s many originals out there but on the fringes and probably part of a sub culture. Imagine all the great music and film ideas we’re missing out on. I just wish folk would realise a lot of shit that goes on has been constructed like that to keep us divided and not keeping an eye on the weavers of this world.
One director created his own style and has made movies that will be remembered for a long time, on top of all that, one of the greatest directors of our time…..the other guy is spike Lee
@@jasonbailey458 oh I agree but spike Lee having issues with Quentin Tarantino about his use of a bad word is childish and shows up spike lee as petty. I don’t like the N word personally but its judicious use in black culture while not allowing others to use it is hypocritical. NO CULTURE IS ABOVE REPROACH IN A FREE SOCIETY.
@@jasonbailey458 The only movie of his that I really remember exists at the moment is Do the Right Thing. I know he made a movie one year ago, but I forget what it's called.
They aren't, Lee spoke some real bad stuff about Django and Hateful 8, both movies were made way after 24 years ago, Spike got really bitter about both movies
@@Acord718 You could write a book on how many people Spike Lee doesn't like. Deep down Spike is pissed because he's a tiny little fellow with a funny looking face.
Spike Lee is genius filmmaker and great teacher-he mentored a whole generation of young black filmmakers during his time as a professor at Tisch. He’s also a massive sellout who does plenty of things just for the money. Tarantino on the other hand has maintained a degree of artistic purity, but all of his stuff since Death Proof has been so messy. It’s largely because his longtime editor and closest collaborator, Sally Menke, passed away after that production. Sally made Tarantino’s early work really sing, and without her his later work no longer has the same rhythmic qualities that initially made him famous. Also, Tarantino doesn’t seem to care about the next generation the way Spike Lee does-there are many people who try to imitate him, but almost no one has actually *learned from him*.
I wouldn’t say that Quentin Tarantino doesn’t care about the next generation. After all, he once said that directors should stop working after they’re 60 years old. He’s 58 right now, so I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his next movie will be his last.
IDK. Spike is a business man. He goes where the money is. He just so happens to also be a finally audacious genius in terms of how he uses images. And he’s one of the most consistently well-regarded docu-filmmakers ever. Nobody shoots as many one-man shows and stand-up specials as him looking for a pay-day. He’s constantly pushing himself. His films have distinct eras influenced by his time doing things else where. The recent gestures toward using documentary and research material in his fictional stories comes from having made so many documentaries recently. It’s fascinating to chart the arc of his career.
I remember this era i was in film school these two i felt were my eras greats quentin tarantino acts in a spike lee film called girl 6 i was wondering if they would ever collab on a film like spike did with Scorsese but there both but hey what are we gonna do except i like to focus on the postive not negative so this was a nice video to watch if u born in thr 70s and grew up in my era spike lee and quentin tarantino movies fill our lives such great work
Neither one really complimented each other at all. Spike Lee even stuck in a jab saying something like "His (QT) time will pass too." Well, it's 2021, and his time hasn't passed yet. And if you bet the Knicks to lose every night you'll be WAY up most years.
@@sowhat... That's an puzzling jump you've made. So in your mind you go from "a woman is a goddess", so that means that a person would " eat their shit"? What's a good reason why you made that jump in reasoning?
dude they're friends just cuz they spoke out against each other on one issue doesn't mean they hate each other and spike lee has come out multiple times and said that he is still a fan and appreciates tarantino's work and vise versa. they're still friends and they don't hate each other
I’ve never understood this saying aka thought of I couldn’t relate to characters or actors because they are white? I’m Asian American and I’ve never thought or felt this. When I see superman flying that’s me. When I see the main character kissing a stunner that’s me! People love too just cry and cry poor me!
Major Casting Directors don’t see you as Superman, and could never even fathom it. That’s the underlying issue at hand - that actors who want to portray a main character in screen, even if they could envision themselves as the Lead, could never get through the first audition because the Gatekeepers (Casting Directors) defaulted the normal casting for leads being only Caucasian looks. That’s the huge problem, and the overarching issue behind representation on screen. I’m glad you can see yourself in white leading characters. Not everyone can do the same thing - most people aren’t creative visually or imaginative. They need others to build the image first for them to see how great the concept is. That’s why diverse casting or diverse executive leadership is important.
@RollandB The next Captain America too. The US is too obsessed with this shit but anyone who thinks black Americans are under-represented in these things NOW is retarded. Black Americans make up like 13% of the population. They're overrepresented if anything. And good for them but people need to man the fvxk up.
Spike Lee's movies like Malcolm X or He got game, tell a story. Tarrntino movies tell a story but there is always violence. Violence up until the point where it seems like you are watching gore porn. Both are talented in their own right. But I tend to agree with Spike Lee. Tarantino has a weird obsession with the N word, violence and gore.
Tarantino is the superior filmmaker, and that's a fact. His films will be remembered long after Lee is dead and gone. Lee's presumption of Tarantino's intent behind his frequent use of racial slurs is just that: a presumption, which he CHOOSES to dwell on. And with this presumption Lee reveals his own obsession with race and hatred of white people as he reveals it in his open disdain for films in which blacks and whites become friends as opposed to enemies. He is absolutely fixated on race; it runs his existence, drives his "art." Lee's extremely talented. Imagine if he cared as much about telling a memorable story with interesting characters and quotable dialogue as he did about nailing whitey against the wall for the sins of 150 years ago.
A more consistent one possibly. But I think DO THE RIGHT THING alone will probably hold up a lot better than most of QTs films. Even Lees films that were less loved are getting. Reevaluated now. Bamboozled was hated in its time now ppl see it as a neat masterpiece.
What? Am I remembering wrong??Im a 80's kid, I loved watching Danny Glover,Whoopi Goldberg, Richard Pryor,robert townsend,Morgan Freeman,Bernie, that coleman dude.....messing with my mind here, nothing was in the 80's??
I think their feud is more of a misunderstanding. I think Spike Lee doesn't quite realise when Tarantino uses this language, he isn't going as a way of saying "oh, use this language" he is doing it in a way of this is how he seems these people talking. Using the N-word in his films, it is either a character who is black, like Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction or Ving Rhames or if they use it in a bad sense which isn't there to praise, more so there to show, this guy isn't the nicest or whatever. But I see why someone would get annoyed, it would be a little awkward for people to hear that word being said from the script written by a white man
Theyre both masters of the craft. Sure spike lee has way more misses but he has some great classics (do the right thing, jungle fever, malcolm x, summer of sam). To me quentin is just someone who plans more and where as spike just has to crank out a film every year or two so they’re not as focused sometimes. But yeah its art not sports, you cant compare their filmography’s like stats. They have different agendas/themes. Besides abel ferrara (king of new york) and john woo kick both their asses. Also i wish more tarantino fanboys (i include myself) would actually watch the movies/directors he’s influenced by (mario bava, abel, takeshi kitano, war kong wai, sam peckinpah).
This is one of the only smart comments I've seen on this video. I don't agree that Abel Ferrara is a better director, but I haven't seen that many of his movies. Can you expand on how wong kar wai influences tarantino?
@@m.w.r.1408 i think quentin likes the way wai depicts tender moments in relationships. Butch and his gf in pulp fiction, pam grier and robert forster in jackie brown has that fleeting romance where people enter each other lives briefly but will always remember it.
@@thechroniccinephile that makes a lot of sense. I love wong kar wai, I bought the world of wong kar wao box set and I've been watching thru his movies so when I'm done I'll have to rewatch some of qt's movies
Tarantino is the exact opposite of a racist. Seriously. You think Jamie Foxx would work for a racist? Sam L Jackson? How about Pam Grier? Anyone who calls Tarantino a racist has never encountered real racism.
Tarantino makes real movies about real people, either from different times in history. In all these periods there has been the use of the N word, casually or maliciously. It's unfortunate but it's reality
Sidney Poitier, Cosby, Richard Pryor, Cecily Tyson, there's been lots of black actors, this notion they're not represented is ridiculous. Black people are 12% of the population, they're not going to be everywhere in everything
I don't know. I think I've only seen two of Lees films and didn't like them very much. I have seen more of Tarantinos and didn't like them in the beginning either. Now I do so I suppose I should watch more of Lees movies.
Spike is envious and jealous that Tarantino has received more accolades - simply because Quenton just makes better stories. Spike is also one of the most miserable and unhappy people on earth in spite of the fact that he is successful and wealthy. He is a woefully unlikable person.
Spike Lee has 1 great film. Quentin has 7 imo. You would never in a million years catch Quentin pushing out the kind of crap like the oldboy remake which Spike has been making for years now.
Spike Lee put Tarantino in Girl 6 and everyone assumed that there was some kind of relationship between them. However, Lee later said that the role was spoofing Tarantino, but that Quentin was too dumb to realize he was being ridiculed
Spike is a hater, racist and separatist and is just angry Tarantino makes more compelling black characters. Which would be different if Spike didn't trash all black directors other than himself and even Eddie Murphy who mainstreamed and elevated a generation of blacks. Tarantino makes movies far too violent for me, but his motivations are some kind of obsessive love of movies and other artists. Spike is mostly motivated by anger and hate with everything he does. It's a miracle he didn't totally screw up Malcolm X but maybe his cowriter was actually THE writer and Denzel fixes anything he touches.
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dont care about that feud Pam Grier looks so fine... sweet lawd
Schwiiiiing!!!
I second that sir. That's a Woman
agreed
Holy fvxk yeah.
Their fued, to me, comes more out of a blatant misunderstanding of each other's intent than disrespect or racism.
It's sad, really. I think these two minds could actually make great strides together.
they were better off hating each other, gave them a fire. otherwise they'd probably get married.
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It comes from a place of Lee needing more media attention.
I don't think Tarantino hates him. Spike has a huge ego and he's jealous.
I don't think Tarantino hates him. Spike has a huge ego and he's jealous.
I always learn something listening to Tarantino.
Truer words have not been said, bruh✌🏽
You should try watching one of his many master pieces then!
He quoted Spike Lee tho
@@JesRocWitMe Exactly.
Tarantino is making a point here 20 years before it became mainstream. And it reflects a respect he holds for Spike’s work.
A perfect world would be one where Spike kept making the movies he does, without shitting on other directors.
Spike has a history of calling out Hollywood’s hypocrisy. Many of the things he called out then is being considered progressive now.
Back then they called him “bitter”. The industry wasn’t kind to black creatives in his time. Especially outspoken ones.
Spike is far too racist and blind to do that. He makes good movies, but he's a very hateful, and very foolish man.
@@mr.doctorcaptain1124 he’s not hateful. Just a Angry. Foolish? Not at all.
@@iansmart4158 he's very foolish. He literally portrayed David Duke as a republican because he supports the democratic party. He's a very, very foolish man
Actually, he's just reporting on what Spike Lee said. You seem to credit Tarantino for expressing the idea when it's Lee who said it. Also, Tarantino can be just as disrespectful as Lee. He's often talked about how directors over 60 should stop working, even when in the presence of directors much older than that.
Watching Tarantino here compared to his voice now is a good example of how accents have changed since the 90s. we used to be softer spoken and aspirate more
I think he started doing cocaine
@@Omegaman18 any supporting evidence?
@@deathtrap5556 good one
@@deathtrap5556 supporting evidence? 🤣 money, Hollywood and Ego not enough for you ey, sport?
@@52BLUE assumptions aren’t evidence
Tarantino thinks he knows everything about filmmaking.
Lee thinks he knows everything about everything.
To be fair, Tarantino has seen almost every single classic and pop culture indie films from the 40s to today. I agree, both have the ability to be pretentious and I disagree with some notions described by either director. However, Despite this, we still have to acknowledge their cultural significance on films, popular media, representation, etc.
Spike Lee is a lot smarter than Tarantino
@@MiguelLopez-fs3ll nah
@@MiguelLopez-fs3ll spike is sick but his movies can't be mentioned in the same breath as Tarantino. Don't be daft.
@@MiguelLopez-fs3ll lulz
It’s confusing to me that Jackie Brown was the film that sparked off the feud with the use of the N-word when it’s arguably used more needlessly in his previous films. In Jackie Brown it’s used by black career criminals from Compton, which is just a perfectly accurate depiction of how a lot of them talk. I don’t think a white character using the word is necessarily a bad thing but if you’re gonna get mad about it it seems like you’d start with how it’s used in Pulp Fiction or Reservoir Dogs, whereas he’s praising those films here and got mad about the films where you could make a case that it’d be almost unrealistic not to use it like in Jackie Brown or particularly Django
That's is true I never thought that jackie brown n word was use by blacks in his others films it was use alot but Quentin cool
Yeah it makes 0 sense. Spike Lee also has no problem with The Sopranos apparently, which is directed by David Chase, a white man, and literally has black people in the show just to show how racist the mob guys are. How is that different from Tarantino? He also does it to show the ignorance of some characters, etc.
@@Dragonpuncher123 Yeah maybe, there were instances in True Romance to Pulp Fiction which did feel unnecessary and gratuitous so maybe he just decided he wouldn’t do it unless there was actually a black character in the movie to say it or where it’d make dramatic sense that it’s being said to them
@@GiantSandles I might have made him think about it at least. But when Django came out Spike Lee of course got pissed off once again and then the feud started all over. Hard for Tarantino to write the way he wants without pissing of Spike Lee it seems.
This is the thing about race, and racial events. There will be always some sort of third order logic about the term whenever it is used by a white person. No matter how much you rationalize its use in Tarantino films, there will be a few blacks that become emotionally compromised by its use. Just as blacks are easily emotionally compromised by any predicament that "may' be about race. Imagine a white man actually writing the n word, many times, in a script.
I don't know if Tarantio is racist or not. But I do know that I enjoy his films.
I highly doubt that he is racist.
I bet Tarantino loved Blackkklansman
That film was such a steaming pile of horse shite.
@Ryan Akwar Who?
God that was a piece of shit film.
I like Spike Lee but that movie was a disappointment. The only good part was Adam Driver
Well I’m glad someone might have-absolute dogshit film.
IT'S ABOUT TIME THEY COME OFF THIS FEUD, 100%.
You did read 3 years ago , correct ?
As an Asian dude, that's how it was watching Glen from Walking Dead be the only one to get sum booty in the zombie apocalypse lol
Actully, I think Tarantino really appreciates Spike Lee because he helped reignite the flames of independent cinema for a new generation of filmmakers.
He even appeared in Lee's film, Girl 6 following a lot of public scrutiny of his use of the "n" word. I think Tarantino really likes to act, but I don't think he would have appeared in that film unless he respected Lee's work and his immeasurable influence on up and coming film makers like Kevin Smith and himself.
Yeah it's crazy I think Quentin Tarantino I think of Spike Lee great directors
god everybody's saying that tarantino is such an violent, aggressive and audacious person but he really seems to be a smart artist who have his own vision, imagine people one day understending this...
@@joewarren9306 pure BULLCRAP!!
Reservoir Dogs was plagiarized.
I already do anyone who don't is a dummy
@@RhythmiconsFrom what?
Ringo Lam's City on Fire.@@debrachambers1304
Just chiming in here because, as a gay guy, yes, when I see a movie with a gay romance (Maurice, Call Me By Your Name, My Own Private Idaho, etc.) the experience can be overwhelming only because you have such a direct connection to the story that you often don't in a movie strictly because of it's exclusively heterosexual characters. However, most truly great and enduring stories transcend their particulars and touch something that's in all of us, regardless of our differences. Romeo and Juliet is about forbidden love, and that's something any gay person can relate to, even though that story may be considered the most classic example of heterosexual romance. I think sometimes identity politics can water down what makes a story truly great and make things more about representation, which can divide people into sub groups, rather than unify us by the emotions and experiences we all share.
You Goddamm right bud, the division caused by those Identity Politics BS........are someday going to Form Colonies, everywhere, with tags, categorised on the basis of sexual Orientation, Race and .......... Idk Could be anything
Word
Thank you
Well said.
Romeo and Juliet is about classism
I’m so glad we live in more enlightened times where it’s no longer a rare thing to see black people kissing onscreen. Not to mention DP and ATM… okay, maybe that’s just my screen.
Hehehehhhahhhahaa
Fuck Shelbyville bitch
So this is what it sounds like..when doves cry RIP Milhouse
Lol. Dude, lol. Also, Shelbyville sucks and so does it’s mall!
Never knew they spoke about each other positively publically
Hit or miss … they’ve given me so many great movies. I really love them both. I hope they also really love each other.
The black characters in QT's films are usually the smartest ones. His favourite actor is Samuel L Jackson. How the fuck is he racist?
most black people think every single white person is a racist no matter what. it’s pretty sad. but they are told that from everyone around them since they are kids. of course they are gunna think we are all racist. it’s not true, but they think it
@@huckleberrylachow2202 no, MOST black don't think like that
Who said he was? I keep seeing these mindless fanboy posts protesting that he's not racist when literally there is no mention of him being racist anywhere in the video.
@@WalterLiddy what? He's been called a racist by the media and people like spike lee ever since pulp fiction. Do you live under a rock?
Yeah
I never seen Spike Lee all sad.
@Deanna W. LMFAO!
He is sad since nobody watches his films. Because he doesn't read the room around him. He doesn't give two fucks about the audiences, he just wants to make black movies about black dudes bashing white guys , every director made a movie based on black culture but nooo this prick picked on Tarantino for using the n word. Please remind him that he is not the only black person on the planet
I've seen some Spike Lee movies but only the ones Denzel is in. Those are mediocre at best & relies on the actors. QT movies rely on the actors, writing, etc. QT is the superior director.
@@_AZBT_ASHUTOSHKUSHWAHA-vm3fh spike lee can do whatever he wants, and he probably doesn't care if nobody watches his films
@@joewas2225 Watch Clockers, Summer of Sam, and Get On the Bus. Those are seriously underrated classics.
In most of his movies the characters are often criminals and that's how criminals tend to talk, like they don't give a shit offending you.
I'd rather realistuc dialogue in my movies, Spike Lee will never be in Quentin's league
Exactly.
cringe
Lee is overrated
@@kingkai9582 I don't think you know how to use cringe correctly
@@A-small-amount-of-peas yes I do you quentin fanboys are the definition of cringe
I believe my next jump will be to 1983 - soley for Pam Grier.. love that Dust Witch.
Travel well, my friends..
Seeing a lot of commenters saying how awful the slavers were in Django Unchained. How poorly they treated slaves. How they use the no no word.
Painted a funny picture in my head of this "woke south" where all the slavers are relatable, kind, people who have never spoken a slur in their life.
God forbid a director depicting slavers, nazis, & career criminals as horrific people. Cant imagine attributing a villain's morals & speech to the writer.
Oh bullshit. You haven't seen a lot of commenters saying that.
You just made that up to support the next part of your comment.
Edit: Besides, thanks Captain Obvious for stating what is VERY Obvious to everybody 🙄
Spike Lee mad because he didn’t make Django 😂😂😂😂
Django sucked
Salt 🧂
Nah, he's made because people watch movies like Jackie Brown and think that depicts black people universally
I think Spike should have beef with other black directors fot not having pushed for better filmmaking techniques and being stereotypical like Singleton or...yeah, Singleton
@@fredleeland2464 Ah yes his real beef is with the plethora of high level black filmmakers in the 90's.
@@oregonguy13 you’re high
I think that Spike Lee needs to understand that the use of the N-word in Tarantino's movies is used to point out racism or stupidity. This becomes clear _especially_ with Django Unchained, the Tarantino film I suspect Spike Lee likes the least.
Especially the hateful eight. Walton goggins character chris mannix is a blatant racist. But in the end, him and major marquis find common ground and beat the kind of people who are much worse. By the end of the film, he's still a racist but they both have respect for one another
@@TJ-fe7rr I’d say he begins as a racist yes, but not one who hates with a burning passion. I’d say he’s just ignorant and prejudiced to not like them on account of how he grew up. I’d say racists really hate whatever race they hate to a T and won’t even talk or stand near them.
QT throws the N-Word around quite a bit himself in Pulp Fiction. I doubt that was supposed to signify his racism. It’s more likely mean to to be funny.
@@iansmart4158 Tarantino's "dead n-word storage" was written like that to demonstrate that his character was personally close to Jules in the past, so that he feels comfortable using phrases the same as a black person would, but at the same time, his character is no longer in the crime world, he's now a suburban husband, and so he is cringy when he tries to sound tough. It's also funny, and the humor has nothing to do with the word being a racial slur.
Spike Lee throws that word around too
That too will run its course. Well Spike its 2021 now. Thats one looong ass run.😉
Tarantino respects Spike, but Spike sounds salty. Jealousy is never a good look.
He's jealous of Tyler Perry too
Specially jealous that Quentin got Robert De Niro to star in one of his movies and poor little spike is still crying about Bob turning down his offer
@@jeremysilva4785 who is Bob turning
He made Oldboy remake lmaoo
Yeah, it was awful
Absolute ballsack of a movie
I’ll never forgive Spike for that mess. It was a goddamn parody.
there was no way to top the original.
Is like Hollywood version of `Nueve reinas´....it sucked balls
It was a nice touch to see Tarantino dressed sophisticated.
the new candyman movie holds the distinction of being the first film directed by a black woman to reach number 1 in the box office. think about that...thats crazy to me.
I stopped at "Usual Suspects seem to have a touch of Tarantino".
But it does though.
it does but in a very cheap and generic way
@@haroldplum923 how? Violence, gore in his style?
@@arb1897 No no. Just that breezy 90s feeling. If you weren't there, you just can't know, son.
@@haroldplum923 ahhh.....i see, yea you're right, now I know what you mean
It’s funny. Blackkklansman felt like a certified Tarantino movie.
No.
@@iansmart4158 But yes.
@@BillykOTW but what if…no?
@@iansmart4158 ah… what if YES?
BlacKkKlansman impressed me the most because I could tell how deeply it was researched. The casual observer might think that Lee was just making criticism of the Trump Administration, but it could have been made 30 years ago and still reflective of the Republican Party. Here's an excerpt from a David Duke era Klan handbook about the values of the KKK. See if any of that sounds familiar.
IDEALS A KLANSMAN STANDS FOR
1. THE WHITE RACE: The irreplaceable hub of our nation, our Christian faith, and the high levels of Western culture and technology.
2. AMERICA FIRST:
First before any foreign or alien influence or interest
3. THE CONSTITUTION: As originally written and intended. The finest system of government ever conceived by man.
4. FREE ENTERPRISE: Private property and ownership of business, but an end to high-finance exploitation.
5. POSITIVE CHRISTIANITY: The right of the American people to practice their faith -- including prayers in schools.
Knights of the Ku Klux Klan Handbook, p. 3.
In Spike Lee’s ‘Do the right thing’(brilliant film) there’s a scene when some of the characters break the 4th wall and play to racist stereotypes. Surely this was a comment on the ignorance of hatred. Much akin to Tarantino’s use of “that” word. Seems to me Lee is being hypocritical. Words are only weapons when we socially construct them to be.
I'd go further. Words are only weapons when we individually construct them to be.
@@Hoganply But that poses the question is there such a thing as “individuality”? The majority follow and accept official narratives and acceptability. Only when a true visionary or leader emerges does it break the status quo. BUT! Then everyone starts following that narrative. I think there’s many originals out there but on the fringes and probably part of a sub culture. Imagine all the great music and film ideas we’re missing out on. I just wish folk would realise a lot of shit that goes on has been constructed like that to keep us divided and not keeping an eye on the weavers of this world.
He did that in the Ed Norton one
One director created his own style and has made movies that will be remembered for a long time, on top of all that, one of the greatest directors of our time…..the other guy is spike Lee
I agree about QT but let's not disregard Spike. He's not perfect but he's made major contributions to cinema that are worth lauding imo.
@@jasonbailey458 oh I agree but spike Lee having issues with Quentin Tarantino about his use of a bad word is childish and shows up spike lee as petty. I don’t like the N word personally but its judicious use in black culture while not allowing others to use it is hypocritical. NO CULTURE IS ABOVE REPROACH IN A FREE SOCIETY.
Idiotic comment.
@@jasonbailey458 The only movie of his that I really remember exists at the moment is Do the Right Thing. I know he made a movie one year ago, but I forget what it's called.
Some people at the comments be projecting their own bs over a 24 years old feud smh. I bet Spike Lee and Tarantino are in good terms nowadays.
They aren't, Lee spoke some real bad stuff about Django and Hateful 8, both movies were made way after 24 years ago, Spike got really bitter about both movies
@@fernandomaron87 isn't he bitter About everything?
Nope. Still beefing
@@fernandomaron87 Spike also dislikes Tyler Perry and Clint Eastwood.
@@Acord718
You could write a book on how many people Spike Lee doesn't like.
Deep down Spike is pissed because he's a tiny little fellow with a funny looking face.
Spike hates the fact that he’s been out matched.
Tarantino looked good and spoke resonantly without the hyper, pressured jabber that came later. He should get some of this back.
PlayiN A Priest in your nxt Western Mr Quintin 🙏 Nice . .
Spike Lee is genius filmmaker and great teacher-he mentored a whole generation of young black filmmakers during his time as a professor at Tisch. He’s also a massive sellout who does plenty of things just for the money.
Tarantino on the other hand has maintained a degree of artistic purity, but all of his stuff since Death Proof has been so messy. It’s largely because his longtime editor and closest collaborator, Sally Menke, passed away after that production. Sally made Tarantino’s early work really sing, and without her his later work no longer has the same rhythmic qualities that initially made him famous. Also, Tarantino doesn’t seem to care about the next generation the way Spike Lee does-there are many people who try to imitate him, but almost no one has actually *learned from him*.
I wouldn’t say that Quentin Tarantino doesn’t care about the next generation. After all, he once said that directors should stop working after they’re 60 years old. He’s 58 right now, so I don’t think it’s a coincidence that his next movie will be his last.
IDK. Spike is a business man. He goes where the money is. He just so happens to also be a finally audacious genius in terms of how he uses images.
And he’s one of the most consistently well-regarded docu-filmmakers ever. Nobody shoots as many one-man shows and stand-up specials as him looking for a pay-day.
He’s constantly pushing himself. His films have distinct eras influenced by his time doing things else where.
The recent gestures toward using documentary and research material in his fictional stories comes from having made so many documentaries recently.
It’s fascinating to chart the arc of his career.
My 2 cents is they are both insufferably pretentious but qts actually a good filmmaker where lees jus a race baiting hack
@@Hates-handle I just called the us Mint your 2 cents are not legal tender
Spike Lee is a type of man who love to be offended.
Napoleon complex
What feud Spike’s just got a chip on his shoulder
I remember this era i was in film school these two i felt were my eras greats quentin tarantino acts in a spike lee film called girl 6 i was wondering if they would ever collab on a film like spike did with Scorsese but there both but hey what are we gonna do except i like to focus on the postive not negative so this was a nice video to watch if u born in thr 70s and grew up in my era spike lee and quentin tarantino movies fill our lives such great work
I these two are more alike than they care to admit.
Neither one really complimented each other at all. Spike Lee even stuck in a jab saying something like "His (QT) time will pass too."
Well, it's 2021, and his time hasn't passed yet.
And if you bet the Knicks to lose every night you'll be WAY up most years.
"He'd have to stand on a chair to kiss my ass!"
I'm not into coloured girls but seeing Pam Grier. Damn, dude.
Is that Pam Grier?
That goddess is Pam Grier
@@Bookworm-ye9qi sounds like you'd be ok with eating her shit.
@@Bookworm-ye9qi would you let her take a dump on your chest?
@@sowhat... That's an puzzling jump you've made. So in your mind you go from "a woman is a goddess", so that means that a person would " eat their shit"? What's a good reason why you made that jump in reasoning?
1:52 - 1:54 = time stamp
Spike’s always been petulant
dude they're friends just cuz they spoke out against each other on one issue doesn't mean they hate each other and spike lee has come out multiple times and said that he is still a fan and appreciates tarantino's work and vise versa. they're still friends and they don't hate each other
Spike lee just salty Quentin came up with these movie ideas first
I just want to see more lore, from more cultures.
What kind of monsters does everybody got?
Look at Charlie Rose's face at the thought of black people kissing. 1:46
Hello Guys im black and I love Tarantino. Let him do his fucking movies.
Such a shame they're not friends.
You'd think they would be since they have such similar tastes in everything!
I’ve never understood this saying aka thought of I couldn’t relate to characters or actors because they are white? I’m Asian American and I’ve never thought or felt this. When I see superman flying that’s me. When I see the main character kissing a stunner that’s me! People love too just cry and cry poor me!
Major Casting Directors don’t see you as Superman, and could never even fathom it. That’s the underlying issue at hand - that actors who want to portray a main character in screen, even if they could envision themselves as the Lead, could never get through the first audition because the Gatekeepers (Casting Directors) defaulted the normal casting for leads being only Caucasian looks. That’s the huge problem, and the overarching issue behind representation on screen.
I’m glad you can see yourself in white leading characters. Not everyone can do the same thing - most people aren’t creative visually or imaginative. They need others to build the image first for them to see how great the concept is. That’s why diverse casting or diverse executive leadership is important.
@@JonathanDennill Could it be that casting directors didn't think of Superman as Asian because the character's not actually asian..
as a black guy I feel exactly the same .
Preach man.
@RollandB The next Captain America too. The US is too obsessed with this shit but anyone who thinks black Americans are under-represented in these things NOW is retarded. Black Americans make up like 13% of the population. They're overrepresented if anything. And good for them but people need to man the fvxk up.
Spike Lee's movies like Malcolm X or He got game, tell a story. Tarrntino movies tell a story but there is always violence. Violence up until the point where it seems like you are watching gore porn. Both are talented in their own right. But I tend to agree with Spike Lee. Tarantino has a weird obsession with the N word, violence and gore.
Bernie Mac and Denzel said spike don’t want to pay you😳😳😳😳
There was a time in the 90s when people didn't fuck up the aspect ratios of their videos, sdince there was only 4:3, as shown above in 16:10.
Spike Lee is extremely difficult to work with. Everyone knows this.
Is that why he collaborated with the same people on multiple projects?
Both are great. Calm down ladys. Tarantino best movie is still true romance
Good movie, far from his best scripts
Tarantino is the superior filmmaker, and that's a fact. His films will be remembered long after Lee is dead and gone. Lee's presumption of Tarantino's intent behind his frequent use of racial slurs is just that: a presumption, which he CHOOSES to dwell on. And with this presumption Lee reveals his own obsession with race and hatred of white people as he reveals it in his open disdain for films in which blacks and whites become friends as opposed to enemies. He is absolutely fixated on race; it runs his existence, drives his "art." Lee's extremely talented. Imagine if he cared as much about telling a memorable story with interesting characters and quotable dialogue as he did about nailing whitey against the wall for the sins of 150 years ago.
Lee will be remembered more as the years go by especially if the race tensions continue in US. Both of them have delivered equally good cinema
no...it's your opinion. It's art. It's subjective.
'TARRANTINO-NECK SWEATER'
Young Spike Lee interesting to see
Still full of his own self importance
I like how this could be talking about both Tarantino and Lee lol
Spike Lee sued spike TV for supposedly using his name arrested development the group sued the TV show by the same name and won redick
Can you please repeat that sentence with some actual f***ing punctuation and correct grammar? I know 9 year olds that write better than you.
In the end, QT will leave behind a greater legacy than Lee
A more consistent one possibly.
But I think DO THE RIGHT THING alone will probably hold up a lot better than most of QTs films.
Even Lees films that were less loved are getting. Reevaluated now. Bamboozled was hated in its time now ppl see it as a neat masterpiece.
One is a race bait merchant the other is a genius
Spike Lee is where today?
I rest.
He’s still actively directing and producing films
casual
He's at Cannes.
Spike Lee was just the president of the grand jury at Cannes, Tarantino was just on the Joe Rogan podcast.
Cannes? Lol
If Pam Grier will have me, then call me.
Spike Lee is salty 24/7.
Spike Lee’s a hack.
What? Am I remembering wrong??Im a 80's kid, I loved watching Danny Glover,Whoopi Goldberg, Richard Pryor,robert townsend,Morgan Freeman,Bernie, that coleman dude.....messing with my mind here, nothing was in the 80's??
Lee isn't a 1/5 of the writer/director that Tarantino is. #Facts
Hate em both but yea
I think their feud is more of a misunderstanding. I think Spike Lee doesn't quite realise when Tarantino uses this language, he isn't going as a way of saying "oh, use this language" he is doing it in a way of this is how he seems these people talking. Using the N-word in his films, it is either a character who is black, like Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction or Ving Rhames or if they use it in a bad sense which isn't there to praise, more so there to show, this guy isn't the nicest or whatever. But I see why someone would get annoyed, it would be a little awkward for people to hear that word being said from the script written by a white man
When narcissists collide.
Spike lee obviously makes films based on race alone
Its his entire body of work, dudes jus a race baitin hack
As much as I like Spike. It gets a bit tiring always seeing that race thing in his movies. I'd like to see him mix it up a bit.
Spike Lee made a movie with Ed Norton called the 25th hour. There was nothing racial about that movie and it was good.
That’s not true and y’all sound like haters just don’t watch the films dealing with race. The hate on spike is weird
Unfortunately- and it really doesnt matter which era it happens in - anyone wearing a turtle neck... loses
Turtleneck and Chains!!!
That too will run its course......Lol Jealous little but pimple
Theyre both masters of the craft. Sure spike lee has way more misses but he has some great classics (do the right thing, jungle fever, malcolm x, summer of sam). To me quentin is just someone who plans more and where as spike just has to crank out a film every year or two so they’re not as focused sometimes. But yeah its art not sports, you cant compare their filmography’s like stats. They have different agendas/themes. Besides abel ferrara (king of new york) and john woo kick both their asses. Also i wish more tarantino fanboys (i include myself) would actually watch the movies/directors he’s influenced by (mario bava, abel, takeshi kitano, war kong wai, sam peckinpah).
This is one of the only smart comments I've seen on this video. I don't agree that Abel Ferrara is a better director, but I haven't seen that many of his movies. Can you expand on how wong kar wai influences tarantino?
@@m.w.r.1408 i think quentin likes the way wai depicts tender moments in relationships. Butch and his gf in pulp fiction, pam grier and robert forster in jackie brown has that fleeting romance where people enter each other lives briefly but will always remember it.
@@thechroniccinephile that makes a lot of sense. I love wong kar wai, I bought the world of wong kar wao box set and I've been watching thru his movies so when I'm done I'll have to rewatch some of qt's movies
je l'aime ce video!
When Spike Lee speaks...
Reggie Miller hangs 35 on the Knicks.
Tarantino is the exact opposite of a racist. Seriously. You think Jamie Foxx would work for a racist? Sam L Jackson? How about Pam Grier? Anyone who calls Tarantino a racist has never encountered real racism.
I don't think QT is a racist, however his black characters are versions of 70's blaxploitation characters in a Tarantino movie if that makes sense.
I get what you mean but you could make the same point about QTs white gangster characters being versions of Scorcese gangsters from the 70s too.
Tarantino makes real movies about real people, either from different times in history. In all these periods there has been the use of the N word, casually or maliciously. It's unfortunate but it's reality
Sidney Poitier, Cosby, Richard Pryor, Cecily Tyson, there's been lots of black actors, this notion they're not represented is ridiculous. Black people are 12% of the population, they're not going to be everywhere in everything
Never sure what Spike’s issue is with QT bar he felt he was overtaken by Quentin
I don't know. I think I've only seen two of Lees films and didn't like them very much. I have seen more of Tarantinos and didn't like them in the beginning either. Now I do so I suppose I should watch more of Lees movies.
They see themselves represented in humanity, not on color
Spike lee will never be a Tarantino
Spike is envious and jealous that Tarantino has received more accolades - simply because Quenton just makes better stories. Spike is also one of the most miserable and unhappy people on earth in spite of the fact that he is successful and wealthy. He is a woefully unlikable person.
Too almost totally different film makers. Its like comparing the best punk rock to the best motown. Both are the shit.
I like spike lee and his style. But I think it's safe to say that his films are nowhere near Tarantino's. Just completely different levels
Do the Right Thing > every QT movie.
Spike got a couple I’d put over QTs entire filmography.
Spike Lee has 1 great film. Quentin has 7 imo. You would never in a million years catch Quentin pushing out the kind of crap like the oldboy remake which Spike has been making for years now.
@@TheRausing1 you really believe Spike Lee has only 1 great film?
How many of Lee’s films have you seen?
@@iansmart4158 every one of quentins movies can be put over spikes whole filmography on their own
@@isaacvargas3156 which Lee films have you seen?
What started their feud?
when Spike talks, his voice makes you wanna fall asleep. Tarantino could teach a class and you’d be engrossed.
Pam Grier. That's all I saw.
I love how the comment section is proving Spike’s point
pulp fiction had a scene where quentin himself says "dead ni**er storage" i wonder why spike lee doesn't have an issue with that.
Spike Lee’s just mad because Tarantino does spike Lee better than spike Lee does spike Lee
Spike Lee put Tarantino in Girl 6 and everyone assumed that there was some kind of relationship between them. However, Lee later said that the role was spoofing Tarantino, but that Quentin was too dumb to realize he was being ridiculed
Django is a blaxpotation flick pure and simple
Eh, maybe. But all of Tarantinos films are exploitative.
Finally someone who speaks English
Spike is a hater, racist and separatist and is just angry Tarantino makes more compelling black characters. Which would be different if Spike didn't trash all black directors other than himself and even Eddie Murphy who mainstreamed and elevated a generation of blacks. Tarantino makes movies far too violent for me, but his motivations are some kind of obsessive love of movies and other artists. Spike is mostly motivated by anger and hate with everything he does. It's a miracle he didn't totally screw up Malcolm X but maybe his cowriter was actually THE writer and Denzel fixes anything he touches.
Do the right thing.
Off topic: Did Spike Lee kinda like the spike back then? :D